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Trump lawyers claim protected speech in bid to have 6 January cases thrown out

A five-hour hearing in Washington concerned Trump’s attempts to have civil suits dismissed.

LAWYERS FOR DONALD Trump and his associates have argued that incendiary statements by the former president and others last 6 January before the Capitol riot were protected speech and in line with their official duties.

In response to civil suits running parallel to Congress’ own 6 January inquiry, Trump’s lawyers claimed he was acting within his official rights and had no intention to spark violence when he called on thousands of supporters to “march to the Capitol” and “fight like hell” to disrupt the Senate’s certification of the 2020 election result.

“There has never been an example of someone successfully being able to sue a president for something that happened during his term of office,” said his lawyer Jesse Binnall.

“That absolute immunity of the presidency is very important.”

The five-hour hearing in Washington before US District Judge Amit Mehta concerned Trump’s attempts to have the civil suits dismissed.

Democratic representative Eric Swalwell brought one of the suits against Trump and a host of others, including Donald Trump Jr, Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, Alabama Republican representative Mo Brooks and right-wing group the Oath Keepers, charging responsibility for the violent breach of the Capitol building by Trump supporters.

The other lawsuits, brought by Democratic representatives and two Capitol Police officers, claim that statements by Trump and Brooks on and before 6 January essentially qualify as part of a political campaign, and are therefore fair game for litigation.

Plaintiffs are seeking damages for the physical and emotional injuries they sustained during the insurrection.

“What he spoke about was a campaign issue, seeking to secure an election,” said Joseph Sellers, one of the lawyers representing Swalwell.

“This was a purely private act.”

Sellers said Trump’s statements were an overt and unambiguous call for political violence.

“It’s hard to conceive of a scenario other than the president traveling down to the Capitol himself and busting through the doors … but of course he did that through third party agents, through the crowd,” he said.

Binnall argued that Trump’s calls to derail the Senate vote certification process were in line with any executive’s right to comment or criticise a co-equal government branch.

“A president always has the authority to speak on whether or not any of the other branches, frankly, can or should take action,” he said, refencing cases where former president Barack Obama publicly commented on Supreme Court decisions.

Binnall said Trump has already been subject to a trial over 6 January — his second impeachment trial, where he was acquitted by the then-Republican majority Senate.

“That was their remedy and they failed,” he said. “They don’t get another bite of the apple here.”

The judge repeatedly cut off lawyers on both sides with questions and challenges.

Giuliani lawyer Joseph Sibley at one point said: “There’s simply no way you can construe the statements that were made by any of the speakers to be an invitation to join a conspiracy to go to the Capitol and commit crimes.”

District Judge Mehta asked: “Why not?”

The judge then referenced Trump’s own 6 January speech in detail.

“His last words were ‘go to the Capitol’ and before that it was ‘show strength’ and ‘fight’. Why isn’t that a plausible invitation to do exactly what the rioters ended up doing?” the judge asked. ”Those words are hard to walk back.”

District Judge Mehta also focused on the hours-long silence from Trump as his supporters battled Capitol Police and DC police officers and rampaged through the building.

He questioned Binnall at length about whether that failure or refusal to condemn the assault as it was happening could be interpreted as approval.

The lawyer responded: “You cannot have a situation where the president is obligated to take certain actions or say certain things or else be subject to litigation.”

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    Jan 11th 2022, 12:58 PM

    The BŰFFØØÑ is a danger to society and not just AMERICA. Please God they nail him before it’s too late.

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    Jan 11th 2022, 12:48 PM

    Really starting to get my hopes up now that Trump and his band of merry m0r0ns may yet go to prison.

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    Jan 11th 2022, 12:52 PM

    @JusticeForJoe: it’s America. He’ll be the next president

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    Jan 11th 2022, 1:09 PM

    It’s sickening that this whole “absolute immunity of the president” thing could lead to this again and next time it may be worse and he or whoever does it faces no real consequences. It was an attempt to stage a coup. The only time that is acceptable is where the government is actively trampling on citizens human rights.

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    Jan 11th 2022, 1:15 PM

    @: I don’t think that “absolute immunity” is a thing, however much Republicans might want it to be now. This is why i think they’re going down.

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    Jan 11th 2022, 1:24 PM

    @aidan mccormack: a lot of his base are leaving him in droves over his endorsement of vaccines, and i can see some of them are even catching on the fact that his constant rallies are basically a grift to line his own pockets. Reckon desantis could have a better chance than him for the GOP nomination at this stage.

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    Jan 11th 2022, 1:41 PM

    @JusticeForJoe: it is while the President is in office. The question (which has already been answered in part) is that immunity does not carry after they leave office. If it did the President could be a genocidal maniac and never face justice.

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    Jan 11th 2022, 1:57 PM

    @Paul Clancy: Yep. That’s exactly the scenario the Republicans thought they had then, and still think they have now. It’s funny how so many of them understood so little about the jobs they held.

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    Jan 11th 2022, 4:23 PM

    @Fred spins kdb: I wish you were right, but there is no evidence to back up your claim. In fact, if there was any evidence of that, I would expect most republican elected reps would also ditch him and speak out, but instead they are afraid of their lives and are digging and repeating the big lie about the big steal.

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    Jan 11th 2022, 1:59 PM

    The US is a banana republic with journalists imprisoned (Assagne), political opponents threatened with prosecution/imprisonment (Trump) and opponents of the regime cancelled, imprisoned, loss of livelihood.

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    Jan 11th 2022, 2:04 PM

    @Sean Simpson:
    Well, Assange is still in UK, and regardless of political side, anyone can be prosecuted or sued if a case can be made.

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    Jan 11th 2022, 3:14 PM

    Of all the things trump done the act that sticks in my mind is kanye west, the way that he was used as a token to prevent people of color for voting biden, he just accepted he was racist and couldnt win the vote, but to watch a mentally ill man fall to pieces under the pressure of running a clone campaign(trump team in charge) and then to see his associate try to prevent a gerogia election worker from doing the right thing (tell the truth) shows how much lacking of empathy that whole inner circle had,

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    Jan 11th 2022, 4:10 PM

    US are great for free speech when it means not having to take responsibility for your words.

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