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HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE reported an additional 8,039 cases of Covid-19 in Ireland today.
As of 8am this morning, there were 885 people in hospital with a case of Covid-19, of whom 76 were in intensive care.
The Department of Health notified 3,692 cases of Covid-19 through PCR testing.
Additionally, there were 4,347 cases of Covid-19 confirmed yesterday through a positive antigen test registered on the HSE portal.
It comes as restrictions have been eased across the country, with hospitality venues now able to operate at full capacity, and social distancing measures being scrapped.
Speaking yesterday, Health Minister Stephen Donnelly said that there were no current plans for the Government to disband the National Public Health Emergency Team.
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@Batster: I think it’s reasonable for certain subpopulations. For example those at risk of pregnancy, planning a family, and those who have allergies. As long as most people are covered it will work.
@SC: Agree totally.
@Batster: imagine how smug they will feel, those that can take the vaccine but won’t. Letting everyone else take it to save them.
@SC: Journal article:
1)’Pregnant women can get Covid-19 vaccine if they fall into other priority groups’ January 13th 2021.
Also:’Covid-19 vaccine and pregnancy-HSE.ie
2) Covid-19 vaccines and Allergic Reactions-CDC 31/12/20
I have allergies but according to this article,I could still get vaccine and I’d have no hesitation to do so.
Hopefully vaccination can be ramped up asap!
@Nuala Mc Namara: it’s not fully tested for pregnancy,
It’s a ask your doctor, how can they know if no Trial data.
On allergies it’s a higher chance of a reaction if you have them.
Depending on your excess allergies and reactions you would want to check. Many people haven’t taken the second dose also due to this.
Boost your immune system before taking it and hopefully it’s all good.
@Rory Mac Daibhéid: The reason why I put the HSE,CDC ,etc advice and data on my comment is to show expert advice,if you read it you will see that eg you can still have vaccine with some allergies and as pregnant women can have a more severe Covid-19 infection, vaccination is recommended for women in priority groups and it does specify when during pregnancy.
Subject of the survey aside, does anybody actually know anybody who’s been phoned and asked to take part in one of these surveys?
I’ve never known of anybody who has.
Also never never knew anybody who has won a Late Late Show competition but I have known National lottery jackpot winners.
Good news on the survey result though.
@JedBartlett: They had my number for a while, I did one survey, they kept saying “just a few more questions sir”, it took more than 30 mins. After that I politely told them to stop calling and to delete my number. They kept calling back, about once a week. Absolute curse.
@JedBartlett: I got called once. On my land-line. So maybe the results are skewed…not sure if they ring mobile phones LOL
@JedBartlett: got a call once, the questions cover a range of topics so my guess was that there was more than one survey happening
@JedBartlett: yep. It was a political opinion poll with a survey about gardening at the end. They often mash a few things together. They sadly don’t report them together. It would have been nice to know how many Shinners owned shovels for example. Or how many FG possessed neither front nor back gardens
@JedBartlett: late late shows are designed to collect names from those that have a TV. You have to be watching and in to get the call. This info is shared with An Post. Guaranteed.
@JedBartlett: my friend won a trip to NYC on the late late a few years back (they rang him live on the show)
@JedBartlett: I’ve never known any one who took one of these surveys but I have one friend who has won about half a dozen Late Late Show comps, lucky fecker. I used to work with a guy who won 2 million on the lottery. Never left the job but came to work in a much nicer car.
@Ger: yep, contacted on a mobile, it went on for ages, well over 20 mins. It would have taken 10 minutes to fill out online..
@JedBartlett: RedC surveys are online, you can sign up to participate via their Web page and the surveys are very regular and cover a range of topics
Yeah, I wonder how many of those ‘unsure’ or refusing the vaccine have willingly taken recreational drugs in the past…?
@Stuart Doherty: best comment! A girl I went to school with who took pills off anyone in our late teens and was fond of a line a coke until a few years ago says she won’t take the vaccine…as is a work colleague who gets Botox and lip fillers regularly!!
@Bleurgh: can’t fix stew-pid mate… ( spellings not that bad , just the journal thinks that word is ‘toxic’ ) …
I have had my first jab, no problem at all, have to say I feel that little bit safer going to work. And glad we are not following the UK by stretching it out.
It’s a new vaccine, so I can understand why people would be wary about getting it.
If I was offered a vaccine today, I’d have to think about it
In six months time when I’m likely to get it, there’ll hopefully be a lot more information about it which will make a decision easier.
@Kendra Jackson: So you don’t mind spending six months as a Covid-19 version of Typhoid Mary?
@Gary Kearney: it won’t be offered for a few months and you might’ Actually have good days and evidence by then on what the vaccine does and doesn’t do.
@Gary Kearney: I should have probably specified “when I’m likely to get offered it”.
Which is likely to be at least six months.
So it’s not exactly a question of whether i ‘mind’ or not.
So why does the Journal not do a poll on it ?. Think you will find its more than reported.
@Ken Bramley: let me guess, you and all of your mates are part of the 7%
@Mal Swan: You assume he means there would be more that wouldn’t take it. How do you know he doesn’t mean that more than 75% would take it?
If you don’t take the vaccine you are deciding to remain at risk from Covid-19, because those who are vaccinated have much lower risk of catching it or getting sick, but they could still give it to those who choose not to get it. Given the choice any sensible person will take the vaccine
@irisbeag: transmission hasn’t been identified as stooped by the vaccine so taking it doesn’t stop you being a risk to others unless that evidence changes.
You could well spread it worse because you believe you are ‘protected’.
Many 1st dose people already getting the virus. Let’s see about the second dose.
There is no real world effectiveness data on its Protection yet.
It’s sensible for older and vunerable people to want to take the vaccine as its potentially Protective.
This data and Evidence will come.
There is a lot of things that need to be improved for immune response also when taking a vaccine, exercise and vitamin D, good sleep before hand.
There is a possibility this vaccine effectiveness will be similar to a flu vaccine and sensible people will know believing that high Efficacy in a trial will protect people in the real world is very naive.
@Rory Mac Daibhéid: i posted my comment less than a minute ago and it was placed in the middle of the comment forum. Somehow your reply to my comment (which is word for word the same as replied to someone else) has 32 likes in 5 seconds?
I think there are a few bugs in the journals coding.
@EarthwormJim: sorry rory this thing is very glitchy, a moment ago it showed you made this reply to my comment. All the best.
If 70 per cent of people take it then that is enough to return everyday life to normal, or close to what normal was. That is the percentage figure I see mentioned all the time.
The attitude that anyone who says they may not or would not take the vaccine is an ignorant fool and a conspiracy theorist is neither accurate nor helpful.
It’s not unreasonable for a person to weigh up their chances of dying from Covid with the opportunity to not take the quickest-developed vaccine in history.
As a reasonably young and healthy person I have almost zero risk of dying of Covid for a long time. I have never taken a flu vaccine for the same reason. That is not to say I won’t take the flu vaccine when I am older.
Separately, I would also like to see every elderly person, every front line medical worker, every worker who is dealing with the public, including teachers, shop workers, etc, every person with health concerns being offered this vaccine ahead of me.
@Jim Lingk: You have not got near zero risk of catching the virus. There is a chance of dying a a much larger chance of getting long covid.
So you “I alright” “I wont be too bad” attitudes are part of the problem.
If you caught it and spread it others could die.
Or do others not count in your narcissistic world.
@Gary Kearney: who said the vaccine stops the virus spreading?
Nobody yet so that’s that an argument.
The same principles of Protection still apply until there is Evidence.
Currently the vaccine is approved as stopping covid illness from developing, severe covid. From the data there’s no evidence of spread being stopped.
So your non scientific attitude is part of the problem.
You must think this is a magical thing that’s stop everyone spreading it and getting sick, there’s no evidence of that from the trail. There’s evidence it offers a higher potential Protection than not having it.
The focus on the vaccine as a solution is a bit misguided and shortsighted.
It should be only thought of as another potential Protection against developing severe covid.
@Gary Kearney: I did not say I had no or little chance of catching it.
I did not say I have no chance of dying of covid. I said I have almost zero chance of dying of covid. Which I do, statistically.
Long covid, perhaps. There really isn’t enough data on this, there hasn’t been enough time passed and there isn’t even a medical definition for what it means.
If the vulnerable people get the vaccine (and they will be offered it before I am) and a minority of people don’t then things should be back to normal.
I’ll have two then
So population wise, that equates to 1 million people who don’t want to get the vaccine?
I hope not!
@Jonathan Nolan: or 350,000 people……(7% of 4.9 million, give or take)
I thought it would have been higher than 75%. Mid 80′s maybe.
Here I am vaccine
I will take the vaccine, but I will not support a new normal. I am taking the vaccine because I want the life I had to return. I hope I am not alone in thinking this.
It is a bit concerning to me when I read Oliver O’Connor of the IPHA saying that even after we are vaccinated that we may only return to some version of what we call normal. I understand that he is not a member of our government and it is only his opinion. I just wonder what has led him to make that speculation, is it perhaps that he has knowledge of what is coming down the line.
@EarthwormJim: got ya. Yes.
I’m not happy with what’s considered normal now and thinking fining people for exercising, cycling and hill walking is somehow making people safer or reducing risk. That’s not acceptable to me and people should be allowed go to fresh open air natural areas and enjoy it at no risk.
In regards the vaccine, it seems to be the solution to allowing the government control.
I don’t agree with the control in first place and everyone has to be responsible for themselves and family and close contacts.
I don’t think the vaccine is going to eradicate the virus or be 90% Protective so how it can be used as a solution to end Lockdowns is beyond me.
It should be used as it’s potential to stop severe covid, 1 case in traii versus 9 in placebo is good result, no idea how that will translate to real world.
We should have a strategy now for living with covid with or without a vaccine. This new normal isn’t normal or good for anyone.
The virus peaked because of Christmas and unfortunately to that’s cause significant illness but it’s not a case for cancelling society. Society by and large can be responsible for itself without having Garda at beaches and hills.
They raided a pub the other which is one risky activity and that’s acceptable policing and fair enough to be hard on risky behaviour.
@EarthwormJim: The masks are here to stay, I am very sure of that at least.
Going on online comments it seems that 70% won’t get it. Some of those online folk commenting are telling porkies me thinks.
@Jason Walsh: FB has a strong and often Conspiracy type and often non Irish based anti vaccine following.
On the journal it’s majority vaccine support.
Ideally we can get some realism about the real world effectiveness and transmission evidence soon as there is a bit of a magical unicorn belief in this Vaccine so far by the media and that’s not based on any evidence or reality yet.
The vaccine met both primary efficacy end points, with more than a 99.99% probability of a true vaccine efficacy greater than 30%. These results met our prespecified success criteria, which were to establish a probability above 98.6% of true vaccine efficacy being greater than 30%, and greatly exceeded the minimum FDA criteria for authorization.
What % is it isn’t known yet.
@Jason Walsh: this has come up in work and social chat plenty of times since Christmas and in my experience 90%+ are saying they will get it. I’m sure a small number of them are unsure and just saying it.but neatly everyone is decided already, it’s not even a question in their minds.
@Jim Lingk: very data driven evidence there.
Not even 90% of doctors said they would take it without evidence.
Almost 600 responded, with 78% saying yes without any reservations. Just 5.4% said they would not take the vaccine but 16.3% said they had some queries for now with less than 1% commenting without choosing an option.
This is what’s not answered>
https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/04/peter-doshi-pfizer-and-modernas-95-effective-vaccines-we-need-more-details-and-the-raw-data/
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