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44% increase in the number of Irish doctors emigrating to Australia since 2018

Despite travel restrictions in place last year, the number of doctors emigrating to Australia alone increased last year.

THE NUMBER OF Irish doctors granted visa applications to work in Australia has increased significantly this year, according to new official figures, as experts and medical professionals criticised poor working conditions in the Irish healthcare system.

The number of visa applications granted by Australia to Irish doctors rose to 391 last year, compared with 332 visa applications granted the previous year, and 272 visa applications granted in 2018.

That represents a 44% increase in three years.

Niamh Humphries, a senior lecturer at the RCSI Graduate School of Healthcare Management, told The Journal that around 725 doctors graduate each year, meaning that a “significant” number of newly-qualified doctors are choosing to go abroad (while not all doctors who emigrate are newly-qualified, the vast majority are).

According to research carried out by Humphries, the reasons for emigrating to Australia include a better work-life balance for healthcare workers, the ability to progress into senior roles more quickly, and the option to tailor healthcare jobs to a person’s interests.

“They can craft their jobs a little bit more than they can here,” Humphries said. “So they might take on a 20% leadership role on top of their clinical role, or take a 20% contract for research. They can craft a job that suits them in terms of working hours and their own skills and experience and interests.

“They can also have a really good work-life balance – they do their 40 hours a week, and they can have a life outside work, which isn’t always available to them in Ireland.”

Irish doctor visa A graph from Humphries' study. Tracking the leavers (2019) Tracking the leavers (2019)

Although Irish doctors may head to Australia with the intention of returning, Humphries says that strong retention policies make it more appealing for doctors to stay.

“I think for a long time, Australia was seen as somewhere that people would take a year out to go to, and it wasn’t really taken seriously as a destination because it was presumed that all of these doctors are early in their career and they’ll all come back.

But I think Australia is very good at working conditions, very good at offering doctors opportunities while they’re there. So they might go out on an 18-month fellowship, but the chances are they’ll be offered a consultancy in that 18 months.

“We can learn a lot from Australia,” she said. “When I interviewed the doctors in Australia, some of them do want to return. They’re really watching for signs of hope back here. They’re watching for anything changing.”

A non-consultant hospital doctor, who worked in New Zealand before moving back to Ireland after the pandemic began, spoke to The Journal about why she left.

She said the reason she left for New Zealand was “multi-factorial”, that she had always wanted to travel with her degree, she felt burnt out after her intern year and that there was a good work-life balance in the healthcare system in New Zealand.

For example, in New Zealand if you worked 10 days in a row, you got an extra two days off, in what was called a “ten four”, which she said made “a huge difference”. The doctor is working 12-14 days in a row now in Ireland. 

The doctor also raised a number of issues with the Irish healthcare system, including “not-fit-for-purpose” old hospital buildings; a bulk of forms to be signed when a doctor moves to a new hospital in Ireland due to a lack of a centralised IT system; and not having support for further education through leave or having courses reimbursed. 

She is now considering moving back abroad again.

“Training isn’t at the standard of other countries regarding education leave and course reimbursement. You also often get boxed into things that are not technically your job in Ireland, but you sort out because it’s best patient care.

“And a lot of that is just the understaffing of the whole healthcare system, it’s not just doctors. We really need to look at training up nurses to become more specialised, and I’m sure there’s a lot of crossover with nurses in terms of emigration as well.”

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Dr John Cannon, who represents non-consultant hospital doctors at the Irish Medical Organisation (IMO), said that instead of working the expected 40-48 hours a week, Irish doctors are reporting to the IMO that they’re regularly working 60-80 hours a week. 

Despite this “underpowering” of the Irish healthcare system, Cannon told The Journal that the reasons doctors were leaving Ireland ten years ago are still the same as they are now.

“That is the most worrying thing when we’re trying to improve working conditions for NCHDs, which is what we call junior doctors in Ireland.”

In the IMO’s annual health and wellbeing survey carried out among its members in 2021, 80% of NCHDs responded to say they felt they were burned out.

“90% of the respondents to the survey last year said that they had some sort of depression, anxiety, stress, emotional stress, or some other mental-health condition that was related to or made worse by work, or brought on by work.

When they’re burnt out, they feel that their reserves are gone, there’s a level of physical and mental fatigue there that they can no longer perform their duties properly. That’s what ‘burnout’ means.

“So if your loved one, your son, your daughter, your mother, your father walks into a hospital, there’s a good chance that nine out of ten junior doctors that are taking care of them will be struggling with their own mental health because of the stress of their job, and there’s an 80% chance that the doctor taking care of your loved one is already burnt out.”

In Humphries’ research on Irish doctor emigration published last year, she cites a culture of medical emigration, poor working conditions and the limited availability of posts in the Irish health system as ‘push factors’.

According to that same research, the Covid-19 pandemic didn’t change the underlying reasons people were leaving, but rather “intensified everything”.

Dr Cannon notes that money is not the primary reason young doctors are moving away from Ireland.

“It’s all of the other sundry elements, and what the HSE would describe as periphery elements, that are really central to making an attractive, rewarding and holistic career.”

Humphries added: “For too long there hasn’t really been a response to what I think looks very like a crisis in terms of the numbers leaving, compared to the numbers that we train.

If you’re going to let people go away for a fellowship, you need to attract them back. It can’t just be a one-way ticket.

“If you’re working really hard to say ‘okay, I see that you’ve done this really wonderful fellowship, we will have a post lined up for you in 18 months, or in two years’.”

According to the Irish Medical Council’s Medical Workforce Intelligence Report, in 2019 there were 1,135 voluntary withdrawals from the medical register in Ireland out of a total of 23,558 doctors registered.

That was a decrease of 21.8% on deregistrations since 2018, and the first decrease since 2014.

This report also lists the reasons doctors who emigrate left, which included “personal impact arising from excessive hours and lack of support”. These were raised as significant challenges to morale and patient safety.

It also showed that 29.8% of doctors reported working more than 48 hours a week in 2019, and 27.5% in 2020.

As of August 2020, 862 doctors had voluntarily withdrawn their registration from the Medical Council’s register.

The Department of Health said in a statement that the recruitment and retention of healthcare workers is a key priority for the Government and the Minister for Health, and said that the increase could be partly related to some Covid-related policies.

“The HSE National Doctor Training and Planning has recently commenced the tracking of doctors who complete medical internship in Ireland. Early and provisional data shows that a high percentage of medical interns who graduate leave Ireland for at least one year.

“However, the data also shows that 82% of interns who commenced one year intern training in July 2015 subsequently commenced a Basic Specialist Training (BST) or General Practice (GP) training programme in Ireland in subsequent years (2016-2021). A small number of the 2015 cohort also remain in the Irish health system either in HSE service grade posts or employed within the private health sector.

“In 2020, in response to the Covid-19 pandemic, the Minister for Health requested the HSE to increase medical intern posts to provide a post for all Irish Medical School graduates (CAO and non-CAO) who wished to accept a post. This resulted in the total number of intern posts increasing to 995, an increase of 261 places which represents a 36% increase from 2019. This increase was for one year only, as a direct result of the Covid-19 pandemic. This temporary increase translated into a permanent increase in the number of medical interns entering internship in July 2021 to 854.

“It should be noted that when the researcher is referring to Irish-trained doctors or doctors trained in Ireland the research is referring to doctors who are Irish/EU passport holders who obtained their basic medical qualification in Ireland. Ireland trains a significant number of doctors from non-EU countries.”

Ireland has the highest number of medical graduates per population of all OECD and EU countries (24.4 per 100,000 of the population), the statement pointed out.

“The medical intern numbers exiting internship in July 2021 were higher than 725 (over 900) and for July 2022 it will be approx. 854. The increase in the number of Australian visa applications 2020-21 could be partly explained by the increased number of medical interns exiting medical internship in July 2021.”

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:03 PM

    Pointless exercise. Chap is a bullshit merchant.

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    Mute Brian MacCarthaigh
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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:06 PM

    When’s he going to stop vulture funds raping our citizen’s???

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    Mute Frank Cauldhame
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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:45 PM

    It won’t happen on Coveney’s watch, he’s a proven spoofer.

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    Mute Tra Hughes
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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:20 PM

    Minister, according to the last census there are tens of thousands of empty/unused dwellings. Is there anything in place to make owners of such properties release same, make it a less attractive option.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:41 PM

    Yes there is. Make it much easier to evict tenants who aren’t bothering to pay their rent.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:47 PM

    Vacant dwellings don’t have tenants Fred.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 8:26 PM

    Reduce capital gains tax. It’s just not worth selling for so many

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    Jan 12th 2017, 1:22 AM

    @Tra Hughes: Define “release”.

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    Jan 12th 2017, 4:53 AM

    Freddy testicle brain above gave the best laugh of this ridiculously scripted interview / FG Party Political Broadcast

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    Mute Charlie Melia
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    Jan 12th 2017, 4:57 AM

    @Tra Hughes: Easy to make them release. Any residential dwelling lying idle for over a year should be taxed at 3-5% of total value every year. Force them to sell or get a tenant. Similar to what is being done with commercial and land banks… There is also a derelict building law which means the Councils can take the houses over, already there for councils to use……

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    Jan 13th 2017, 12:12 AM

    @Charlie Melia: So you want this country to change to communist dictatorship with no regards to private rights or ownership.

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    Mute tom
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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:36 PM

    Build aforable and social houses today. If developers aren’t interested then state should directly employ builders to build.

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    Mute Coles
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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:19 PM

    Completely agree. That is the only solution.

    Builders will never build houses for people who can’t afford to buy them. It really is that simple.

    Coveney is trying to force up property values (by jacking up rents and yields) in order to release those in negative equity and encourage them to spend money due to the perceived wealth effect. This is a central part of their economic recovery plan. This ‘recovery’ is as false as the boom conditions it is trying to mimic. It’s worse still because there is no wall of credit available to maintain it if even for a few years.

    In order to force up prices the construction supply has been strangled, migration into the country has been ramped up, rural depopulation is enforced through lack of employment, and then he expects the working poor to save for deposits to but ‘affordable’ housing? It’s never going to happen and these policies need to be reversed immediately.

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    Mute john Appleseed
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    Jan 11th 2017, 8:27 PM

    God no! Look at the mess Alan Kelly made. Reduce tax for builders building social housing. Try an incentive for private enterprises

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:16 PM

    Why don’t the government or IDA give incentives to companies to allow some staff to work from home, but only if they move away from Dublin to a rural location (i.e. Where the person is actually from).

    This would free up housing stock while repopulating rural Ireland, keeping shops, pubs and even towns open.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:27 PM

    Do you realise how bad broadband is in most rural areas?

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    Mute Linda Nolan
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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:11 PM

    When are they going to build?

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    Mute Barnes
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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:04 PM

    How many Ministers and TD’s are landlords themselves?

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:09 PM

    @Barnes:

    I think its 20%, according to a recent survey. 1 in 5.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:23 PM

    @Frank Cauldhame: That was an incomplete survey. The correct figure is in excess of 30%.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/nearly-one-in-five-tds-are-landlords-registry-shows-399892.html

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:44 PM

    Also worth noting that when asked a number of TDs and Ministers have in the past failed to reveal that they were landlords (including Minister Simon Coveney).

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/12/09/forget-something-2/

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    Jan 11th 2017, 8:02 PM

    @Coles:

    Thought it might be higher alright. Then when you add in the scene they move about in….

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    Jan 12th 2017, 4:07 AM

    @Barnes: As with their Cllr colleagues most property is either corruptly undeclared or transferred in their spouse name therefore hiding these assets from scrutiny. Here in Wicklow we have several Cllrs and at least one TD who have dones this hiding millions in assets from public declarations of interests and assets……

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:19 PM

    Will he the very least get these vulture funds to pay proper tax? Will he cap rent to reduce the profit these companies can make and maybe leave us alone? €2800 a month on rent is absolutely madness.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:23 PM

    Holey moley €2800 a month on rent. Where are you living?

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    Jan 12th 2017, 8:52 AM

    @Science of beer: Anywhere in D1 to 12. Tho its generally closer to 1200 per room now than 1400.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:41 PM

    When is he going to resign? And none of this “I’m not a quitter guff”. The reality is he’s just not capable.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:48 PM

    @Adrian:

    Spot on. Look at the mess he left our fishing industry in.

    Plus as a landlord himself I’ve no trust in his motives with regard to this issue. He needs to go, not in a few months time as is the mantra of this government but now.

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    Jan 12th 2017, 12:55 AM

    As a landlord with vested interest he should step aside

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:23 PM

    Coveney said that the 4% rent increase rate was set “to give investors a decent return”

    Stop for a second and look at how headline rent relates to the rate of return on investment.

    If a landlord is currently making a ‘decent’ return on investment of 4% and then increases the headline rent by 4% per annum over 3 years the “decent return on investment” actually becomes in excess of 15%per annum.

    Don’t confuse the headline rent and the return on investment. Very different things. Coveney knows this and is deliberately misleading people in order to enrich landowners.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:32 PM

    Red thumbs? Why?

    Do the maths. It’s fairly simple.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:51 PM

    @Coles:

    The drones in the Mount St basement bunker are scrambling to red thumb every negative comment and it looks like they’re in for a busy night.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:06 PM

    @Frank Cauldhame: Yeah, it was funny to watch. 10 immediate red thumbs on a point of fact that can’t even be disputed.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:42 PM

    @Coles.
    Your maths do not add up. If the yield is 4% and the rent goes up 4% a year for 3 years and the property value remains static. After the years the yield is 4.5% not 16%. And that assumes the Propery price does not increase.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:54 PM

    Thanks Keiran, but let’s look at the figures.

    For ease of calculation let’s assume a rent of €1000 is giving a ‘decent rate of return of 4%’ and is clearing €40 profit on the investment per month.

    If that rent is increased by 4% in the first year the rent is now €1040. Because of 0% CPI the profit has now increased to €80 per month. The return on investment has doubled to 8%.

    If in the second year the rent is increased by a further 4% the rent is now €1080 per month. The profit has now increased to €120 per month and is giving a return of 12% on the investment.

    Repeat this a third year and the rent is now €160 and the return on investment is 16%.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 8:16 PM

    Maybe the just don’t get maths coles.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 8:50 PM

    @coles, normally yield is used, but lets use your method. 1000 per month at 5% yield suggests a property value of 240,000. So using your methodology we are making 40 Euro a month profit on 240,000 in deployed capital. Or an annual return of 480 euro on 240,000 investment. Or .002%

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    Jan 11th 2017, 9:32 PM

    @coles the basic mistake you are making is how you think the 1000 per month is the investment and 40 euros profit is the return on the investment. Incorrect, the price paid for the property is the investment. The rent is the EBITA return on investment.

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    Jan 12th 2017, 12:04 AM

    @Kieran O’Sullivan: That was educational thanks.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:27 PM

    Ask Minister Coveney when Fine Gael intend to suspend their policy of forcing up house prices.

    When he denies it remind him of this:

    http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/theres-no-housing-bubble-michael-noonan-wants-prices-to-rise-30168455.html

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:33 PM

    Why all the empty property? Why is lpt not paid for vacant property? Why not charge for having empty units. The tallest building in the country in nearly entirely empty. Apart from the staff turning lights on, to make it look like someone is living there.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:09 PM

    I don’t want to rent I want to buy. I might as well buy rather than rent. If i rent im just paying someone else mortgage. 3.5 times mortgage limit needs to be raised. 10% deposit is handy enough though.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:26 PM

    Vulture funds have soared the property’s, their a business investment company’s, in Sandy Ford alone they have 2 blocks of apartments with 2 bed properties going for €2,800 per month. The Government let the Vulture Capitalists in & have now lost the battle for the housing!

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:29 PM

    Not a great interviewer, would be great to actually be able to hear more than a few words of his answers before he’s interrupted! What’s the point of asking a question and not waiting for the answer..

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:43 PM

    I took the time to absorb as much as possible of the ministers replies and to be honest it became pretty clear very early on, that this was no more than a lightweight interview with questions put to the minister that had clearly been rehearsed or at the very least agreed upon beforehand.Typical journal ass licking exercise. Pointless to be honest.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:54 PM

    How is it Minister, you can fix rent, but you can’t reduce mortgage interest rates or car insurance gouging as this is interference in a “free market”????

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:38 PM

    This excuse for a minister along with his colleagues do not give a damn about the welfare of anybody.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:00 PM

    1. Is there a maximum commercial yield to which any any landlord should be entitled is respect of any residential rentred property?

    2. Should landlords be entitled to evict sitting tenants when selling residential rental properties?

    3. Why are there better balanced landlord and tenant laws protecting residential tenants and longer term security of tenure in all other EU countries compared to Ireland?

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:11 PM

    i know this is a difficult concept for the government to understand but build council houses simple

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    Jan 11th 2017, 7:33 PM

    ” Coveney launched a major plan” ah lost interest in the article after reading that. If I got €1 for every major plan that various governments have had over the years I’d be retired and living in the Bahamas….

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:28 PM

    The government could increase supply if they taxed 2nd home housing income at 90%+. Would he consider introducing such a measure? This would also emphasise that dwellings are a construct for living in and not for making money.

    Does he have any plans to tackle short-term rentals like Airbnb?

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    Jan 11th 2017, 10:01 PM

    Can you explain how that would increase supply?? It would actually do the opposite in fact

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:32 PM

    What is the plan for non first time buyers, we’re constantly hearing of plans for first time buyers, but nothing people who had a home now rent, and maybe would like to buy again.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:16 PM

    Pointless exercise that!

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    Jan 11th 2017, 8:28 PM

    Simon Coveney’s hairline is as disconnected as he is from the reality!

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    Jan 11th 2017, 10:50 PM

    Just listened to the interview with minister covney. Shocking is the only way to describe it. The journalist spent the first 12 minutes talking about Apollo house, did I miss something here, was this not supposed to be about renting and not homeless. She only asked 6 questions which were not priority to renters/ landlord. Coventry was long winded and some only in general terms hoping his wish list would come true. He was not asked why developers are not building and the cost of tax in construction. Why vulture funds are paying no tax on there investment. Why they have a capital gains free exit.Why are vulture funds getting 50℅ off the value and Irish citizens are discriminated against. Why an outside investor pays on 20 ℅ tax on rental income.With all the tax charges in renting has it not an effect on rental prices.Why are landlords paying 60℅ tax on rental income,of course this does not include 20℅ maintaince. Where is the money in it for landlords,why are there so many leaving this business. Why property tax is not included in a cost.There were so many important questions, it was an opportunity to seek answers but the journal failed. It very much appears from Coveny that renters must get used to renting as he appeared quite smug that this was the norm in Europe. Bluster,bluster and more bluster, i am more concerned now this man has not a clue about . Shame on the journalist for being so I’ll prepared and weak.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 10:05 PM

    Bit late on the day for this but clearly fg are not fit for office and the homeless crisis has gotten worse by the day since you took office. Why not do the right thing and resign

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    Jan 11th 2017, 11:20 PM

    Jesus that was awful.

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    Mute Pat Stuart
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    Jan 11th 2017, 11:39 PM

    With marital breakdowns & homelessness, we now need smaller units or homes for people to move into. These homes should be built with single people or a couple in mind. They can be offered the homes on a trial period for 2 – 5 years, opting out if they decide to move on & purchase their own homes from 1-5 years as tenants & be entitled to a cash sum for freeing up a home. If they stay for the full tenancy period & build up a proper credit point rating with the local Councils they can then be moved on to a more permanent home. We don’t need people who rip their homes apart & expect the Council to put them back together for them free of charge. At the end of the 5 year period let them be judged by their Tenancy agreement with the Council & be awarded a better home when available.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 11:20 PM

    Not a great interview but interesting to see if stands over his words considering he chose to do this interview, it’s not like he was acosted on the street. He had his answers prepared so they should carry some weight. I took some notes of the interview, paraphrasing mostly, don’t take it as being the exact words he used and review the video for clarification. One that struck me was the rent cap, 4% pa over 3 years – sure after the 3 years you calculate the loss, turf out the tenant, get a new one in and add on the loss from the 3 years? As I said these are his words, feel free to hold him to them.

    Homelessness/Apollo

    “It’s not just about beds, it’s also support, services, safety”

    “State needs to provide sufficient accomodation

    “Emphasis on social housing build program and getting homeless families into a home of their own”

    “20,000 homes to be built by NAMA by 2020″

    “. . . deliver on the promise to get people out of hotels by this summer (2017)”

    800 families in hotel accom is “not acceptable and we are going to change it”

    . . .not good enough that children are doing their homework in hotels and without kitchen facilities . . .

    “I will personally be involved in setting those targets and making sure we meet them (by the middle of the year)”

    We have a country now that has the resources available to it that should allow us to deal with this issue, my job is to force the pace and make it happen

    Rental Discussion

    Talks about the rent cap and the possibility of new rent cap zones based on RTB data

    “more importantly we need to get suppy up significantly”

    3300 Dublin apartments on AirBnb last summer – according to the reporter

    AirBnB properties will need to apply for change of use in planning if used for short term lets on a rolling basis

    We have commited as a gov to spending 5.3 Billion to add 47,000 social houses

    we have 1000′s of void local authority houses back in to use in last 2 years

    Mentions problem of over 65′s and rental problem, says FTB grant is working to improve this and allow people to buy a home, also CB rules on mortgages for FTB helps them also, and also mentioned Euro has culture of renting for life and Ireland could have the same, mentions a pension provison for over 65′s in the future possibly, rental market can change over time and become an option for long term renters

    Tyrellstown Amendment starts next week, if a vulture fund buys a group of apartments of more than 10 units the tenants are protected, tenancies stay intact under this amendment, law will not apply retrospectively in the case of Limerick situation so those tenants may have a problem

    “What we need to do is have a much more predictable calmer market,that has supply that meets demand, when we have a broken market the Gov needs to intervene to protect tenants and give certainty to LL’s, which is what we have done in the Rental Strategy, but ultimatley we need a lot more supply, in next 25 years a million more people, many will want to live in Dublin,and unless we find a way to build a lot more quality accomodation that is affordable for people, which is what we are focussing on, particularly in using public land, then we are going to have huge problems with commuting and traffic and congestion and all the other things that are all ready a probl;em in Dublin, supply supply supply in the right areas, high density and high quality in urban locations, thats what we are really trying to drive”

    Lending cap is imposed by CB, as it should be, they looked at trends and changed deposit requirement in recent weeks.

    Need much higher buildings in Dub, high quality urban living, green spaces, we need to deliver change, Im also the min for Planning, we need to do that over time, devolopers and funds are interested in investing in Dublin and other cities.

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    Jan 11th 2017, 6:30 PM

    Is Coveney a Landlord himself? How many properties does he own and let?

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