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Bill seeking to remove 'child pornography' term from Irish legislation to be debated in Seanad

Senator Eileen Flynn’s private members’ bill would replace the term with “child sexual exploitation material”.

A NEW BILL is seeking to remove the term “child pornography” from Irish legislation and replace it with “child sexual exploitation material”. 

Independent Senator Eileen Flynn will address the Seanad today as her private members’ bill, The Child Trafficking and Child Sexual Exploitation Material (Amendment) Bill 2022, is debated.

If passed, the Bill would amend the language of the Child Trafficking and Pornography Act 1998, the Amendment Act of 2004, and any references to “child pornography” contained within Irish legislation.

Flynn said the phrase child pornography “does not truly reflect the nature of the abuse and it is unacceptable to continue to use such inappropriate language when referencing such an awful crime.”

“We can all think of words that have been used commonly in the recent past that would now be recognised as offensive and divisive. I would like to think that should these words, that are harmful to people, be within our laws, that we would not hesitate to amend and replace them. This is the case here,” she said.

She said the language currently being used in Irish legislation has been found to be harmful.

Flynn said the Bill has been guided by the Luxembourg Guidelines, which were drawn up in 2016 by ECPAT International, a global network of organisations that works to end the sexual exploitation of children.

“According to their report, which was conducted with the aid of a number of international bodies, including the UN, the term ‘child pornography’ is not only incorrect, it is dangerous,” she said.

“Why then is it dangerous, when our laws already provide measures against it? The reason is that what is occurring in these awful instances, is not pornography. It is abuse.”

Flynn referred to legislators using more appropriate terminology for abusive behaviour, such as “image based sexual assault” instead of “revenge porn”. 

“While that term is widely used and understood, the term ‘image based sexual assault’ not only better reflects the nature of the abuse and the crime, but it also shifts the focus on to the perpetrator and not the victim. I wish to do the same with this bill,” she said.

The term has long been considered problematic. In 2014, members of the Oireachtas called on then-Justice Minister Frances Fitzgerald to change the term to acknowledge the seriousness of images and videos featuring child sexual abuse.

Director of the National Women’s Council Orla O’Connor told The Journal: “The National Women’s Council welcomes this important legislation to remove the outdated and harmful term from legislation.”

“Language matters, and material relating to child sexual exploitation should clearly be referred to as such,” she said.

Reporting requirements

While the term “child sexual abuse material” is increasingly used by the media, the Irish media are required by law when reporting legal proceedings to use the specific charge, which is “child pornography”.

Less specific descriptions of the offence could result in a breach of the Criminal Procedure Act 1967 or result in defamation proceedings, legal experts have said – noting that in circumstances where an image of a child is used but the child is not abused, suggesting the charge is “child abuse” could also breach the Act and may also be defamatory.

The International Police Organisation Interpol, who worked on developing the Luxembourg Guidelines, has been vocal about the need to stop using the term.

“Child sexual exploitation is not a crime we take lightly. In fact, we want you to cringe when you hear the terms ‘child porn’ or ‘kiddy porn’,” the organisation has said.

“Why? Because children whose sexual abuse has been photographed or filmed deserve to be protected and respected. The seriousness of their abuse should not be reduced by words such as ‘porn’.”

Pornography is a term used for adults engaging in consensual sexual acts distributed (mostly) legally to the general public for their sexual pleasure. When children are involved, it’s not porn. It’s abuse. It’s a crime.

Flynn said the use of the term child pornography is incorrect and dangerous.

“We need a phrase that better reflects the nature of the abuse and the crime. We need to shift the focus onto the perpetrator and not the victim. By changing the language of our laws, we can guide the narrative on these issues,” she said.

“Our laws should be written to protect those that they serve by implementing appropriate language that conveys the truth of the action and the crime. We know it’s the right thing to do.

“We must shine a light onto the atrocious actions that are being suffered by countless children. We must listen to them regarding their experiences and do all that we can to support these victims. We must start by labelling what they went through correctly, which is child exploitation.”

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    Mute michal heba
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    Jun 9th 2024, 6:33 PM

    Europe needs change , the current policy isn’t working, politicians sit in their’s expensive houses, in expensive neighbourhoods… ordinary citizens have to deal with havoc of open borders

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    Mute Ian
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    Jun 9th 2024, 6:39 PM

    @michal heba: Havoc? Grow up.

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    Mute 9QRixo8H
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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:03 PM

    @michal heba: you’re anti-immigrants gained zero support. While “open border” parties dominated. Your lot lost.

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    Mute frank dowling
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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:09 PM

    @9QRixo8H: Not in Austria, apparently! Sooner or later, Ireland will wake up to the consequences of unfettered illegal migration.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:22 PM

    @frank dowling:
    There was a fella from Austria a while back who was fairly far right. The early1940′s were a diificult time for Europe due to his beliefs. I wouldn’t look to Austria for guidance in this matter. It didn’t end well the last time.

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    Mute 9QRixo8H
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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:31 PM

    @Paul O Connor: sure your man from Austria wasn’t far right, he was just a concerned citizen!

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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:55 PM

    @9QRixo8H: a semiliterate comment if I ever saw one and an example of the level of intellect that supports open borders.
    Here, I hope this helps youse
     ’Your’ is a possessive adjective that is used to describe something as belonging to ‘you’. ’You’re’ is a contraction of ‘you are’. Almost always followed by a gerund or a noun.

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    Mute 9QRixo8H
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    Jun 9th 2024, 8:03 PM

    @Thomas Sheridan: guess who else supported ‘open border’ parties? The ENTIRE nation.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 8:10 PM

    @frank dowling: Absolutely

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    Jun 9th 2024, 8:23 PM

    @Paul O Connor: There was another guy from Georgia knocking around at the time, from the opposite end of the political scale, and he was great fun at a party!

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    Mute Damien Leahy
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    Jun 9th 2024, 8:39 PM

    @9QRixo8H: in local elections, tf are they supposed to do when it come to border issues

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    Mute Damien O'Sullivan
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    Jun 9th 2024, 8:48 PM

    @frank dowling: Agree. When the situation gets out of control like the rest of Europe then we’ll wake up.
    Too much left wing wokeism around in this country at the moment without looking at the real problems this will bring in the near future

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    Jun 9th 2024, 9:11 PM

    @michal heba: that’s what the far right do, if anyone voting far right thinks it will sort their problems, they are in for a rude awakening

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    Mute Ian
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    Jun 9th 2024, 9:27 PM

    @Damien O’Sullivan: Look up what being woke means. If you’re perceived meaning is the opposite of woke then you’re the problem.

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    Mute Sean O'Dhubhghaill
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    Jun 9th 2024, 9:33 PM

    @michal heba: Don’t notice any havoc.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:17 PM

    A slow rise on right leaning politics across Europe in general. This will trigger many commentators here but it’s evident that Europeans are becoming increasingly disillusioned with the ability of their existing political party’s to deal with the huge problem that is mass immigration. Ireland isn’t alone here, the problems we see in every town, village and city in Ireland….are evident in most other country’s across Europe. We need a zero tolerance, hard-line policy on immigration. No the half baked process we currently have in place. Deportation needs to swift and final.

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    Mute Rochelle Hart
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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:25 PM

    @Mick Joe: Or neoliberal policies and the rich becoming richer at the expense of everyone else is squeezing the majority and some are taking the convenient bait of blaming vulnerable migrants rather than understanding the actual reason.

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    Mute 9QRixo8H
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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:28 PM

    The mass migration sentiment receive zero mandate from the entire nation. Not a seat did the anti-immigrant parties get. Migration is an issue to *you*, not the people. “Open border” FFG won.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:30 PM

    @Rochelle Hart: You’re conflating

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    Mute Thomas Sheridan
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    Jun 9th 2024, 9:43 PM

    @9QRixo8H: SF vote went down from 25% in the 2020 GE and 35% support last October to a mere 12% this week. What could have caused this collapse. Surely not their brave open borders rhetoric?

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    Jun 10th 2024, 12:15 AM

    @Thomas Sheridan: Except it is not SF that have been responsible for any immigration Ireland has.

    It has been FFG, with The Greens and Labour before that.

    By all accounts, those FFG parties have done rather well in these elections, although the full results are not yet known.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 6:31 PM

    I’ve been a frequent traveler to Germany and have seen how the landscape has changed massively in the last 10 years – public pools have almost become no go for young women and signs have been put up in Arabic that it’s not ok to harass women. Very weird to see groups of bearded men standing on corners in small eastern German towns. On the other hand, food options have improved and Germans are speaking more English than before

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    Mute 9QRixo8H
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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:09 PM

    I’d say the article below where FG migrants were elected has you foaming with hate.

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    Mute Kush OMeara
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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:35 PM

    @9QRixo8H: Not really – the key is contribution and integration – any migrants that contribute and integrate always add to the economy and a nation. It’s the silos and ghettos and the ‘us vs them’ crowd that causes trouble. Most successful countries have healthy immigrant communities ( Healthcare professionals in Ireland from Philippines/India, Tech Professionals in Silicon valley from around the world, Manufacturing workers in the UK from Eastern Europe etc). The problem arises with a small subset of migrants who never want to venture out of their tribe for religious or other reasons ( like moving to a country to purely leech)

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    Jun 9th 2024, 10:00 PM

    @9QRixo8H: and so it should bent elections

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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:47 PM

    Anyone less than a standard deviation left of center is far right. It gets monotonous.

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    Jun 10th 2024, 12:16 AM

    @Oh Mammy: FFG are right wing.

    Those to the right of FFG are tending to the far right, depending on just how nasty they are.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 8:30 PM

    Honest question – why is right always ‘far right ‘ but left is just left and not ‘far left ‘?

    There’s loonie bins in the far right who want want everyone deported but there’s also same loonies in far left who want everyone welcomed in because john Lennon sang about it

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    Jun 10th 2024, 12:05 AM

    @Kush OMeara: not true. PBP are far left. FF and FG are centre right. Niall Boylan is right wing, SF are “whatever you’re havin’ yourself” and Derek Blighe is far right.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 8:07 PM

    Far right is a relative term. With popularity in the UK, Netherlands, France, Germany, Switzerland and Austria it begs the question as to whether they are truly far right or are some left leaning people unable to process alternative positions.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 9:00 PM

    @Lewis Armstrong: in “The Road to Wigan Pier” Orwell explains why disillusioned left wingers were turning to fascism. Writing in 1937, he blamed the intellectual “crank leftists” for alienating the ordinary people and driving to the right. Fast forward to today and we have a name for those cranks – “Wokes” and they’re making the same mistake.
    Those who don’t learn the mistakes of history..etc

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    Jun 9th 2024, 9:03 PM

    @Lewis Armstrong: possibly slightly to the left, but leaning on the shoulder of the “traditional” right. Not much more than that. Although they’ll have to if they want to gain more seats and govern.
    They’re very good at marketing themselves, and at highlighting the (perceived in places, real in others) islamisation of society. This goes down well with the electorate in general. Even left thinking friends of mine are veering to the far right when Daesh’s “lone wolf” attacks are amplified.

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    Jun 10th 2024, 12:21 AM

    @Fran Ken: Why can’t you allow people to just get on with their lives?

    Are you really such a snowflake that how someone chooses to live drives you nuts?

    Calling someone who is bothered by how others choose to live their lives ‘woke’ simple shows us a great deal about you.
    (And you probably call yourself a Christian too.)

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    Jun 10th 2024, 9:54 AM

    @Lewis Armstrong: That’s about right, by the any historic standards neo liberal FFG are far right. The censorship of opposition speech tagged as misinformation and hate speech and closing of comments that oppose their narrative is typical of1930’s style far right parties,

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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:15 PM

    How depressing. The EU is following the US down the right wing toilet.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:24 PM

    @Sandra Duffy: been forced

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    Jun 10th 2024, 3:16 AM

    The liberal elite in Europe hasn’t listened to the people for decades it’s no wonder people are turning in desperation to the far right. The old boys network that’s ruled western countries ( f.f f.g) are getting a bloody nose and quite frankly they deserve it.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 7:17 PM

    Sure Hitler is from Austria, something in the water over there

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    Jun 10th 2024, 12:22 AM

    @Sean Money: Austria has long been a reservoir of the far-right.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 8:10 PM

    The death camps were a result of academic politics, so somehow, wider society manages to ignore the role the academic community plays in maintaining prejudice by trying to hide natural selection behind eugenics or social darwinism. 

    Yesterday, A commenter said I should take my views to one of the prominent Universities in Ireland; however, I was always content to remain with commenters here even if they find it difficult to stomach what natural selection actually looks like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy_xWKJubuY&t=3s

    So there is no far right and far left, just cowardice, silence and watching comments erased.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 8:51 PM

    @Gerald Kelleher: I hope that all the journal Hamas supporters will take the time to watch the linked video and realise that the Hamas forefathers were only too willing to collaborate with the Nazi regimes.

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    Jun 9th 2024, 9:09 PM

    @Thomas Sheridan:

    The Nazi regime was neo-darwinist.

    https://www.azquotes.com/author/12265-Cecil_Rhodes

    The worst part of it is that the Victorians derived their ideology from the neighbouring islands of Britain and Ireland and that nobody will face and I mean nobody.

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Descent_of_Man_(Darwin)/Chapter_V

    With SS levels of compliance to Vuctorian natural selection, how could the world be any other way?

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    Jun 9th 2024, 10:00 PM

    @Thomas Sheridan: stupid comment

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    Jun 10th 2024, 12:24 AM

    @Thomas Sheridan: The Palestinians are simply trying to defend themselves from the israeli colonist.

    As we would do if what the isreali have done to the Palestinian were done to us.
    As any would do.

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    Jun 10th 2024, 1:36 PM

    Immigration .. immigration and politicians and profiting from immigration

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    Jun 10th 2024, 2:07 PM

    Great news

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