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Everything to know about keeping you and your household safe during Storm Eunice

From what to do during a power cut to keeping your pets safe, we’ve got you covered.

IRELAND IS BRACED for the arrival of Storm Eunice, which is set to hit the country tonight.

Met Éireann is forecasting severe conditions across the country tomorrow due to very strong winds, heavy rain and snow, with gusts of up to 130km/h.

A Status Red wind warning has been issued for Cork, Clare, Kerry and Waterford, effective from tonight, when the storm is expected to pose a risk to life.

A Status Orange snow warning has also been issued for Donegal, Leitrim, Sligo, Mayo and Roscommon.

With these warnings in place, people may have to deal with anything from heavy snowfall to a power cut. 

Here’s a list of tips on how to prepare for the storm.

Travelling

Those in Status Red areas are advised to avoid any travel while the warning is in place. 

Those in areas affected by Status Orange warnings are being asked to consider postponing their journey until the storm has passed.

Schools, colleges and childcare facilities in areas affected by these warnings have been advised to close tomorrow, while Bus Éireann services in four counties have been cancelled.

Driving

For those in other areas who might have to make a journey in a car, there’s a chance you might encounter some snow and ice along the way. 

Before starting your journey, the Road Safety Authority has advised drivers to have these essentials in their car:

  • High visibility vest.
  • A torch with charged batteries
  • A hazard warning triangle
  • De-icing equipment (for glass and door locks)
  • A first aid kit
  • Appropriate clothing and footwear in case you have to leave your vehicle
  • Spare fuses and bulbs
  • A charged mobile phone
  • A blanket and some food and water to sustain yourself

This is what you can do to make sure your car is ready for the journey:

  • Check your tyre treads and pressure, including the spare. While the minimum legal limit is 1.6mm, a minimum tread of 3mm is advised for winter driving
  • Make sure all your indicators and headlamps are clean and working
  • Make sure windscreen wipers are not worn and there is de-icer in the windshield washing fluid

The RSA is advising drivers who may have to cope with snowy conditions to:

  • Remove all snow from your vehicle before commencing your journey
  • Clear windows and mirrors before you set out, use a screen scraper and de-icer. Do not use hot water on the windscreen as it can crack the glass
  • Slow down, use all controls delicately and leave extra distance between you and the vehicle in front. Avoid over steering and harsh braking and harsh acceleration. Use the highest gear possible to avoid wheel spin. Select a low gear when travelling downhill especially if through bends
  • In blizzard conditions, do not drive on the tail-lights of the vehicle in front. This can give a false sense of security and you will be too close to be able to brake safely
  • In heavy snow, use your fog lights, turn off your radio and open your window a fraction, so you can hear other traffic, especially at junctions
  • Use dipped headlights at all times, and fog lights in heavy snow to ensure you are seen by other motorists (but don’t forget to turn them off afterwards)
  • Watch out for vulnerable road users such as pedestrians, cyclists and motorcyclists and allow extra space

Cycling/walking

Motorcyclists, cyclists and pedestrians should not compromise their safety by travelling in icy or snowy conditions unless your journey is absolutely necessary.

If you can’t avoid travelling, the RSA has issued the following advice:

  • Cyclists should wear a high visibility vest or a Sam Browne Bandoleer belt and ensure the lights on your bike are working
  • Motorcyclists should avoid wearing a dark visor in any bad light conditions
  • Pedestrians should walk on a footpath where possible and not in the street. If there is a footpath and it is safe to use, look out for falling debris from above, especially in urban areas
  • Walk on the right-hand side of the road, facing traffic if there are no footpaths

The Coast Guard is also advising pedestrians to avoid any exposed areas, including seafront and cliff walkways, as they may be hit by sudden gusts, exposing themselves to unnecessary danger.

It said that all forms of open water recreation should be avoided, including by experienced practitioners, as it may result in arousing public concerns and causing rescue services to be alerted.

House

Once the storm hits, there’s a chance that you may experience a power cut.

ESB Networks has put together a handy video for what you should do if your electricity goes out.

 ESB Networks is reminding customers to be prepared:

  • Have plenty of food and water available
  • Make sure your first aid kit is stocked up and that you have easy access to any necessary medication such as inhaler, insulin, etc.
  • Have torches with spare batteries available
  • Make sure your phone is charged and, if possible, have a phone charger at hand for your car
  • Check that elderly or vulnerable relatives and neighbours are prepared to be without electricity
  • Keep pets inside
  • Know where your household fuses and trip switches are so that you can check if there are any problems with your own electrics
  • Secure garden furniture 
  • If you have electric gates, please check you know how to work them manually.
  • If you are dependent on electricity for medical reasons, contact ESB Networks and it will register you as a customer with medical needs 

It is also reminding people that if you see a broken power line, stay well clear and keep children and animals away. Report the damage to ESB Networks at 1850 372 999 and listen to recorded messages carefully.

If you want to check for fault and repair updates, you can do so on the ESB Power Check website or its PowerCheck app. If your fault isn’t logged, go to this link - or call 1850 372 999. You can also follow @ESBNetworks on Twitter.

Clothes

If you have to go outside during the storm, you’ll want to remain as warm and dry as possible.

Rei Co-op says that during cold weather, layering your clothes is key. It allows you to adjust your body’s thermostat by putting on and taking off items to stay comfortable. It’s especially important in cold weather conditions.

  • Base layer – this consists of your underwear and the layer on top. Polyester is great for wicking sweat away from you, and merino wool will keep you warm. Cotton should be avoided here as it soaks up moisture and will make you feel clammy, and cold, very quickly.
  • Middle layer – this insulates you, keeping your body heat close to your skin while letting moisture escape to the outer layer. Think a thick jumper or a heavy fleece jacket. You can also add a synthetic puffer jacket if it’s particularly cold.
  • Outer layer – this is your ‘shell’ which will protect you from the elements. If you’re heading out, a breathable, waterproof and warm jacket will work best. Be sure to also wear gloves, a hat, and suitable boots and socks. Warming packets are also handy to have to keep your hands warm. 

Food

Make sure you have enough food in your house before the storm hits – and do not, for any reason, go out to bulk buy bread. We all remember what happened last time. 

When the weather is bad, there’s nothing like a bit of comfort food. Pasta, rice, lentils and bread are great options to keep us feeling full and warm.

Your freezer is another great source of food that you can pull out and prepare fairly handily, once it’s properly defrosted of course. 

Other great foods to have to hand are:

  • Non-perishable goods, like tinned beans and chickpeas, crackers and cereals
  • Food that don’t need to be refrigerated, like pasta, tinned meats and vegetables and tinned soups
  • Food that doesn’t have to be cooked, like fruit and veg, dried fruit, nuts, granola, crackers, some cheeses

Farming

IFA Munster Regional Chairman Harold Kingston has advised farmers, particularly those in the Red alert areas, to take every precaution over the next 24 hours. 

“When working in darkness, check torches for batteries and keep phones charged. Make sure there’s enough fuel in machines and remember that flying debris might not be as obvious outside of daylight hours,” he said.

He advised farmers to check their farmyards and put in place whatever safety procedures are needed to safeguard themselves and their livestock until the storm passes.

“Farmers should review whatever measures they normally take when Met Éireann issues a storm advisory. Check buildings, gates, doors and vehicles to ensure they are secure,” he said.

Kingston also advised farmers to use the time between now and the storm landing to have all precautions in place.

“Met Éireann’s advice is that there will be gusts in excess of 130km/hour. Anybody farming near coastal areas should be very vigilant,” he said.

Pets

It’s important that your pets are as safe during the storm as you are. The ISPCA have a guide for taking care of pets during wintry conditions:

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Dogs Trust are also advising:

  • Ensure your pets are kept indoors during the storm. They may be scared and unsure, and will need reassurance. Dogs have sensitive hearing so the howling wind can be quite overwhelming and worrying for most of them, not to mention the risk of them being injured by debris.
  • If your dog needs to toilet and you are able to head out safely to your garden, keep your dog on a lead in case there is any damage to your wall, fence or gates and your dog can escape.
  • If the storm disrupts your dog’s exercise routine, activities such as a toy filled with food can help use up some energy playing and ‘exploring’ for food. Games like this are also a great distraction from any unsettling sounds.
  • If you are near an area that may flood, be aware that flood water could contain raw sewage, and might be contaminated. Keep you and your pet out of it as the water could contain toxins, which could be dangerous to your pet if swallowed, and could remain on their coat if not bathed properly.
  • Keep in touch with any neighbours, relatives or friends who have pets and might be affected

General tips 

Check on your neighbours who are elderly or who have limited mobility. Make sure they have everything they need before the storm hits and have a phone number for them so you can keep in touch.

Keep your phone with you at all times if you have to leave the house, and keep it in a resealable bag if you’re afraid it will get damaged by the rain. 

Make sure all of your devices are fully charged if there’s a power cut, and have plenty of candles on standby just in case – but don’t leave them unattended. 

Break out the board games and the snacks. 

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    Jan 31st 2023, 6:14 AM

    “Considering” is a nice way of putting being railroaded into it. With looming combustion engine legislation and lack of options from manufacturers consumers have little to no choice in the matter, especially if they don’t have the personal capability to maintain an older car themselves, and all for minimal actual benefit to the environment. EVs are not a sustainable technology, nor are they an environmental solution to our transport issues. We need real investment in proper public transport infrastructure, not pissing money away on Ryan’s stop-gap battery trains and tokenistic EV and hybrid adoption.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 6:32 AM

    @Brendan Gordon: I’ve heard it claimed before, that EVs are not much better than conventional ICE (petrol diesel) vehicles due to the CO2 emitted mining and making the battery, this is not true.

    Studies show, that when the entire life cycle of an EV is considered, it still saves on emissions compares to a petrol / diesel car. In Europe, an EV bought today emits 66%–69% less CO2 than a petrol / diesel car over it full life-cycle:

    “Results show that even for cars registered today, battery electric vehicles (BEVs) have by far the lowest life-cycle GHG emissions. As illustrated in the figure below, emissions over the lifetime of average medium-size BEVs registered today are already lower than comparable gasoline cars by 66%–69% in Europe, 60%–68% in the United States, 37%–45% in China, and 19%–34% in India.”

    https://theicct.org/publication/a-global-comparison-of-the-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-combustion-engine-and-electric-passenger-cars/

    Also, I see the lifespan of the batter has increased, to 15-20 years.

    “The hundreds of gently topped-up cells inside an EV battery mean that each battery pack is expected to retain its charging-discharging capacity from 100,000 to 200,000 miles.”

    “Today, most EV batteries have a life expectancy of 15 to 20 years within the car – and a second life beyond.”

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    Jan 31st 2023, 6:53 AM

    @David Jordan: True, but the rest of the materials in the car aren’t as recyclable, and most cars won’t be “gently topped up”. And unless there’s a colossal breakthrough in carbon or iron battery technology, we simply don’t have enough Lithium on the planet to meet the needs of mass EV adoption. It’s not all about carbon. On top of that, there’s huge issues with right to repair and the ability to properly maintain your own vehicle and not be tied to extortionate service and repair costs. Any environmental savings made through EVs are made tenfold by an effective public transport infrastructure, while also value adding to people’s quality of life in urban areas

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    Jan 31st 2023, 6:57 AM

    @Brendan Gordon: Railroaded into it by uncomfortable facts such as Climate Change.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 7:12 AM

    @David Jordan: battery last 15 to 20 years you having a laugh, don’t believe everything you read.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 7:19 AM

    @David Jordan: the car with the lowest emissions and best for the environment is the car you’re already driving, and if one is really hung up on climate change, get a horse instead.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 7:24 AM

    @Brendan Gordon: There’s a practically unlimited supply of lithium in seawater, 180 billion tons. Of course, also, batteries will be recycled or reused. They maybe no use for a car if they loose 20-30% of their capacity, but they can still be used for other purposes.

    https://electrek.co/2021/06/04/scientists-have-cost-effectively-harvested-lithium-from-seawater/

    Analysis shows that, if we stick with just mining, we will run low on lithium by c. 2035, before then we can develop alternative solutions, perhaps by then extracting lithium from seawater becomes technically feasible and economically viable.

    https://www.edie.net/acute-lithium-shortages-forecast-by-2035-as-battery-supply-chains-expand/

    That said, I agree with you on the over reliance on the car. We do need better public transportation. That said, they will often also need lithium, the vehicles themselves and large grid scale battery storage needed to store energy when there’s no sun or wind. One of the biggest predicted uses of lithium are grid scale battery storage. Do an emphasis on public transport may not reduce lithium use by much, so is not a solution for lithium.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 7:32 AM

    @DERRY1973: My battery is 9 years old and still at 85% health.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 7:41 AM

    @DERRY1973: a battery pack lasts 5-8 years in a car (c. 100,000 miles) and is useful for another 7-10 years if used for other electrical storage uses:

    “This degradation is estimated to be happened after 5–8 years of usage or equivalent to 100,000 miles (160,000 km) of travelling. However, the retired EV batteries, even with lower SOH, could still be re-purposed in other applications such as residential households or power variance in grid-scale PV plants. As shown in Fig. 4, they are estimated to have another 7–10 years of the lifespan before reaching the End of Life (EOL) as SLB.”

    That mean that at the end of useful life in a car, a battery pack, the cells within, are still useful. The battery pack will be worth money, bought from the EV owner, offsetting the original purchase cost, and used for other uses.

    With the predicted squzee on lithium, lithium prices going up, a battery pack bought now, might be an investment when sold in 5-8 years time.

    Haram, M.H.S.M., Lee, J.W., Ramasamy, G., Ngu, E.E., Thiagarajah, S.P. and Lee, Y.H., 2021. Feasibility of utilising second life EV batteries: Applications, lifespan, economics, environmental impact, assessment, and challenges. Alexandria Engineering Journal, 60(5), pp.4517-4536.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 8:01 AM

    @DERRY1973: manufacturers are give 8years or 100,000mile warranty on battery’s, it wouldn’t be far fetched for users to get 15years, 20 could be a stretch though.
    There are 3rd companies popping up who just replace the degraded cells in batteries for a fraction of the cost/waste replacing the full battery pack and I think manufacturers need to start doing this also, will they do it? Probably not.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 8:07 AM

    @David Jordan: sounds like somebody just came up with the plot for Mad Max EV edition.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 8:13 AM

    @David Jordan: Use of batteries for public transport solutions is a false economy, battery rail and light rail has failed multiple times. Simply implementing effective public transport through conventional propulsion is more than worth it alone. All battery systems do is give an excuse to cheap out on infrastructure, and their long term costs and safety issues just aren’t worth it. The notion of fully integrated vehicle inclusive power storage and distribution grid is a wasteful fantasy and a gross underestimation of the infrastructure that would be required to keep mass adopted EVs charged and on the road. People keep looking to the future for sci fi solutions to problems we already have the answers for. It’s a problem of political will, not scientific or engineering capability.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 8:18 AM

    @DERRY1973: A horse needs stables, food, a field to house it, grooming and vet bills. Nah…just buy a bike on the bike to work scheme. ;)

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    Jan 31st 2023, 9:12 AM

    @Brendan Gordon: I think in 10 years EV’s will be looking the way of petrol/diesel cars are now. Shortage of Lithium and cobalt as well as the damage done to the environment from mining it (poisoning of the water table and strip mining the land) , without even mentioning that child labour accounts for the majority of labour mining it, (some as young as fours old), with zero protective equipment. EV’s aren’t the shining light and world savior that we are lead to believe. Hydrogen fuel will be the way of the future, will we see it in our lifetime though, who knows.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 9:15 AM

    @Brendan Gordon: Don’t be wasting your time debating with David he’s a paid contributer on here espousing everything pro govt. Volvo did extensive research a few years back where they worked out that the payback on an eV car would be roughly 600000 to 700000 kilometers before it would be carbon neutral, obviously this didn’t sit well with environmentalists so they were made do it again and lo an behold the figure magically dropped to 40 to 60000 kilometers. Of course the extremely toxic environmental impact of lithium mining extraction, aside from carbon isn’t included in any survey, or the less than ethical cobalt mining in Africa. There’s a lot of inconvenient truths to quote Al Gore’s famous movie that electric car proponents don’t want you to know. Also there’s the cost how can an average family that most would need 2 cars afford 80 grand every 5 to 8 years with bugger all resale value due to battery life expectancy. And all this rubbish about 25 to 20 years battery life, when has this being tested seeing as 100% battery cars are less than 5 years on the road

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    Jan 31st 2023, 11:48 AM

    @Michael McGrath: You are incorrect, perhaps an innocent mistake, or perhaps you were deliberately deceitful. I don’t know. You incorrectly claimed Vovlo says an EV would take 600000 to 700000 kilometers before it would be carbon neutral.

    The correct figure for their C40 EVs in Ireland is c. 77,000 km, for a mix of wind and fossil fuel generated electricity (this based on the current average of EU28 electricity mix).

    Here’s the report.

    https://www.electrive.com/2021/11/04/volvo-reveals-the-co2-footprint-of-the-c40-recharge/

    “For all three electricity mixes in the LCA, the breakeven occurs at 49,000, 77,000 and 110,000km respectively, all within the assumed life cycle of the vehicle (200,000km).”

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    Jan 31st 2023, 2:09 PM

    @Alan Biddulph: My car is 14 years old and the petrol tank still fits 100% of it’s capacity.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 6:38 AM

    All it takes is an accident on the M50 or a fall of snow. Biting you nails in a gridlock, bumper to bumper watching your power drain away. We simply don’t have the infrastructure in place. Our national grid is already stretched to the limit, they were talking about blackouts not so long ago. What’s going to happen when suddenly everyone plugs in to charge their vehicle? Meltdown?

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    Jan 31st 2023, 7:55 AM

    @Noel Allan: You obviously have no clue how EVs work – if you’re stopped in traffic the power *isn’t* draining away, that’s the whole point.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 7:59 AM

    @Noel Allan: Also, most EV charging is done at night, on night-rate electricity, when there is loads of capacity. This gets brought up (and explained) every time there is an article about EVs, does no one read the comments?

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    Jan 31st 2023, 10:12 AM

    @Type17: where do heater and lights get their power from?

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    Jan 31st 2023, 11:19 AM

    @Type17: it is if you have heating on

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    Jan 31st 2023, 11:48 AM

    @Type17: if your heater is on its draining your battery

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    Jan 31st 2023, 12:08 PM

    @DERRY1973: but not that much to completely drain your battery, you could say the same about petrol or diesel

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    Jan 31st 2023, 1:00 PM

    @Fuji Hakayito: When I’m on the motorway in our EV, and I switch to EcoPlus mode (heating & aircon off), the range only goes up by about 15km (5% of max range), so it’s pretty negligible, unless you’re trying to scrape out every last km (only an issue if you’ve planned things very poorly).

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    Feb 1st 2023, 5:25 PM

    @Type17: I seen a test were an EV owner heated a car in winter with it just parked. Lasted a couple of days or more.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 7:26 AM

    I’ve owned an EV now for nearly 4 years and although the benefits are great in terms of savings (free charging at work), toll road discounts, low yearly tax. I have to highlight the serious negatives. After coming from owning petrol and diesel cars before the EV purchase I can’t stress enough the joy of filling up at the pumps and gone again within 5 minutes. There is extremely poor infrastructure in place for charging your EV while on the road. Charge costs doubling in the past years to queuing at rapid chargers waiting your turn with no other options. It takes 30 minutes on average per car to charge up and at times you might have 2 other cars in front of you. So when you sum things up you really have to consider if its the right choice for you to invest in an EV at this moment in time

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    Jan 31st 2023, 6:34 AM

    A lot of people in for a shock if that report is true, you could hardly tow a trailer with EV’S without the possibility of damaging the electrics, insurance company’s won’t pay out in a lot of cases of this happening! Also with the cost of electricity, who wants to pay to charge a car or even install a plug point in your home? Can’t see any advantages to EV at the moment. Car company’s don’t have a choice but to push the sales tho!!!

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    Jan 31st 2023, 8:23 AM

    @et: There is no issue towing with an EV, they are a great tow vehicle. It would effect your range but unless you’re towing cross country (more than 200km) it’s not an issue.
    There’s no issues with insurance either.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 8:30 AM

    @Robert Conneely: I’ve yet to see how an EV could possibly tow a 7m Rib from Dublin to Kerry or Clare.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 11:21 AM

    @Robert Conneely: Most EV’s run the risk of damaging the cars electrics by towing caravans/ heavy trailers..no garage will tell you this!

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    Jan 31st 2023, 12:06 PM

    @ciaran enright: but you wouldn’t use a car to pull that either

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    Jan 31st 2023, 5:51 PM

    @Conchuir: yes you would use a diesel car to pull a caravan/trailer, it’s a known fact that you CANNOT pull a caravan with an EV.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 6:10 AM

    Price is the issue

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    Jan 31st 2023, 11:25 AM

    @Michael Mulcahy: Simply stated.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 7:04 AM

    Yes, I’m “contemplating” buying a EV :) and will do so for another 5 years or more at least. Too expensive (as is the insurance), real life range is risible and charging prices on the road are a ripoff.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 6:27 AM

    As long as there’s no cold spells!!
    EV’s love the cold ….

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    Jan 31st 2023, 10:04 AM

    Cost of charging EVs gone up by 50% .An absolute f@#%#@g rip off.Costs me 7 euro to fully charge my hybrid and that gets me approx 45 km and takes over 3 hours to charge .Paying for petrol virtually the same. Look before you leap I say.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 10:35 AM

    Help the environment and look after the car you have !!!! It’s so simple ! Stop upgrading your SUV every 3 to 5 years just for a school run .. it’s ridiculous and pure vanity .

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    Jan 31st 2023, 12:24 PM

    @Aunties: Revenue.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 7:41 AM

    Government should do more to incentivise purchasing electric cars, making the option attractive, giving people “guts” to tackle range anxiety and the challenge of changing driving habits to adapt to EV ownership, such as:

    conserving power
    taking breaks on longer journeys (and recharging)
    planning the journey ahead

    Norway did all this, as well as getting businesses on board with improving the electricity infrastructure to meet the increasing number of EVs in society.

    It’s a textbook example lots of countries should learn from, particularly Ireland, which has roughly the same population, and only a fifth of the land area to deal with.

    I know we have some incentives, but there are talks of removing some too, like the SEAI grant (which currently is up to €3500) already — too early!

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    Mute Redseat92
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    Jan 31st 2023, 12:01 PM

    Ev’s are only worthwhile if traveling a reasonably long distance to work and back every day with the ability to recharge using a cheap source such as solar panels at home.I see plenty of lunatics spending 50 to 60 thousand on Ev’s when they only travel about 10 to 20 miles a day but just like all the glass fronted mansions being built..They have to keep up with the neighbors even if it means they can barely afford to eat.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 10:31 AM

    When the annual car tax is normalised for EV’s in a couple of years it will be interesting to see what it will cost. I currently pay over €600 for 15yo ICE car and probably a lot more tax annually on the fuel. Add into that the VAT on servicing consumables such as oil, brake pads, man power costs etc. I suppose they could put some extortionate carbon tax on the batteries themselves, the tyres maybe or introduce an actual road tax akin to the RTE tax and make everyone pay.

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    Mute James Lowry
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    Jan 31st 2023, 11:37 AM

    Quite the difference from our near neighbours. I just can’t believe its 70% here sorry.

    https://www.motortrader.com/motor-trader-news/automotive-news/two-thirds-uk-drivers-not-expect-next-car-ev-16-01-2023

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    Mute Donal McCarthy
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    Jan 31st 2023, 9:08 AM

    Can’t understand how anyone would buy a new standard car that is not an EV.

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    Mute Aunties
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    Jan 31st 2023, 10:33 AM

    @Donal McCarthy: can’t believe the people who pretend they care about the environment and buy a new EV or hybrid SUV every three to 5 years !?!?!
    Like just look after the Vehicle you already have !!! They can run to 300k +.

    It’s just vanity

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    Mute Sal Paradise
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    Jan 31st 2023, 1:20 PM

    @Donal McCarthy: If you live in a house that doesn’t have a driveway so can have a charger going from house to street.

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    Jan 31st 2023, 5:52 PM

    @Donal McCarthy: Why??

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    Mute Sal Paradise
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    Jan 31st 2023, 1:19 PM

    I wonder what the second hand market will be like in years to come. Considering longevity of batteries will people want to buy second hand EV’s?

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