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LOCATED A 20-MINUTE drive from Bandon and 30 minutes from Cork city, River Meadows enjoys the best of country living while still offering plenty of convenience.
The development is in the growing village of Cloughduv, with a primary school, creche, church, shop, pub, and GAA and football clubs here.
There are three-bed semi-detached and four-bed detached and semi-detached homes available, with prices starting at €335,000 and rising to €445,000. An important factor for first-time buyers will be that properties at River Meadows are registered for the Help to Buy scheme.
Sizes for the three-beds range from 107 sq m to 111 sq m, while four-beds span from 134 sq m to 142 sq m. Each home at the development is highly energy efficient and has an A2 Building Energy Rating, with features including an air to water heat pump system, a demand controlled ventilation system and wiring for a car charging point.
Residents will be able to put their own touch on their new home by choosing the style and colour of their kitchen cabinets and worktops, as well as the style and colour of their fitted wardrobes.
The rear garden to each home features a lawn and patio area, while there are green areas throughout the development for children to play outdoors while being close to home.
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Many seem to forget that is wasn’t the “EU” who came up with the customs and trade regulations within the EU. It was the member countries, including the UK, who agreed to all the existing regulations. The UK knew well before hand what the implications of leaving the customs union were before the vote was called. The rules are set for everyone, it’s up to the UK to avoid a border if it wants.
@Paul: the mad thing about all of this is that yes the British voted for Brexit but the British public aren’t screaming to come out of the customs union! Only hardline conservatives/Brexiters want that! It’s crazy!
@Paul: From an Irish Perspektive now that the UK is leavibg the EU which is the best EU country for Irish online shoppers to buy from. In Terms of best value and postage and which of the big Stores enropean Stores should go for. There is a difference in prices from country to country .
@Catherine Sims: __ I recently bought an item from Amazon.de because the UK version cost more and was twice the postage. I’ve steered away from online UK sites for anything now.
@Ted Murray: check out curiua.com for amazon price comparissons
@Paul: “The UK knew well before hand what the implications of leaving the customs union were before the vote was called”
Maybe a very small number of people knew. Not the majority. when you have the likes of Boris johnston comparing north and south ireland to districts in London, then you know you’re in trouble.
@Paul: You assume the 52% and the UK government are truly afraid of a hard Brexit. They place a high value on regaining control from a failing yet increasingly micro managing EU federation. Trade will come down to self interest across all member states, the powerful industries will lobby everywhere they can to ensure continued access to the UK market, which runs abt 100 billion euro trade deficit with the EU. Should Ireland veto anything proposed by the UK in order to avoid a hard Brexit, I would suggest, sadly, many within the powers that be across the EU would, moving forward, treat the Irish government with an element of contempt. The UK government has in the past been a good and solid ally of Ireland in Brussels, who will assume that role ?
@Deborah Behan: deluded and fake news. fact
They voted out. They need to fix the problems. The referendum in the UK was badly run campaign on both sides. The implications of the vote were not clearly laid out! The Brits still think they are a great empire and better than the rest of us. Let them leave and the costa del sol might get a bit nicer for the rest of us when they need a visa to get there!!
@Mark H: such profundity Mark….l like it…….you may not know this but the night of the counting of these votes Dinnie s`sgainne hooked up with some Brits radio and so we had a blow by blow a/c of the count complements of Newstalk. Farage conceded defeat by the way @ around 1.30…….
@Mark H: There is a risk of hard Brexit and large companies need to plan ahead. If, a large Japanese or other car manufacturer in the UK announce they are moving their plants to an EU country the UK, and this PM, will come under enormous pressure. Those plants are really big — lots of jobs!
@gregory: good point, and some of these companies told the UK this was a risk if they left the EU. And still… It’s a disaster or is shaping up to be at the moment. It could also be a disaster for Ireland. But as long as the UK get their way, right? It could ruin this generation in the UK. Who knows they may be better off in the end but not for a long time!!
@Mark H: suggest you go somewhere else on hols then if you don’t like your fellow holidaymakers in Costa de Sol
@Mark H: yeah… let’s vote again until they vote No…. idiot. your deluded and stupid.
@John Copeman: they made a stupid decision and now have to deal with it. Never suggested they should vote again. Democracy works, apparently! I’m just suggesting the problems with leaving should be fixed by Britain if they choose to leave as their decision has caused the problem. No need for insults John. Use your words.
Who exactly is wanting a border?
Seems to me it is not the UK.
@Martin Lintzgy: The UK is moving out of a house it shares with friends but wants to keep a set of house keys
@Pauliebhoy: also wants to use the food in the fridge without replacing it.
@Martin Lintzgy: it’s simple Martin. The UK are leaving the custom union, therefore a trade barrier comes into existence between the UK and Europe which in Ireland is the border between Ireland and the six counties, so the UK’s decision to leave has created the border problem. They may say they don’t ‘want’ a border but it’s a bit like saying I have SKY TV but I’ve decided not to pay my subscription anymore but I still want full access to all their channels!!!
@Martin Lintzgy: It is a form of ‘their border/their choice’ but it is pretty much anarchy like ‘their body/their choice’.
@Pauliebhoy:
So you are saying that Ireland agrees with the EU, that there should be a hard border.?
@Martin Lintzgy: The UK can’t not have a border and be out of the Customs Union. The Technology argument would have to be implemented in every Continental country that imports and exports directly with the UK and in doing so neither side would know for sure what was being transported in either direction. There is in reality only two solutions. (1) The UK remains in a Customs Union or there is an economic border down the Irish Sea. And for the vast majority of the UK population no.2 would be far more palatable.
@Martin Lintzgy: The UK can’t not have a border and be out of the Customs Union. The Technology argument would have to be implemented in every Continental country that imports and exports directly with the UK and in doing so neither side would know for sure what was being transported in either direction. There is in reality only two solutions. (1) The UK remains in a Customs Union or (2) There is an economic border down the Irish Sea. And for the vast majority of the UK population no.2 would be far more palatable.
@Martin Lintzgy: Wasn’t “Take back control of our borders” a key slogan of the Brexit campaign?
@Martin Lintzgy: you are being silly Martin, we don’t want a hard border but it is the inevitable consequence if Britain renages on it’s binding agreement set out in the GFA.
@Martin Lintzgy: The UK negotiating tactics and ideas are that of a petulant child with the DUP their deranged parent. Johnson Davis etc are clearly IQ challenged they talk complete nonsense regarding Irelands Government and float codswallop ideas about the border and then try to cherry pick the best bits of the EU and dump the rest. They are in for a very rude awakening
@Martin Lintzgy: neither Ireland or the EU want a hard border. The EU are simply don’t like the proposals given to avoid a hard border
@Martin Lintzgy: It most certainly is the UK. And it was the UK who contrived to partition Ireland with a border manned with British guns. The UK caused the problem then and is back to cause problems again.
@Pauliebhoy: maybe, but the UK is one of the largest net contributors to the EU ‘house’. We should also be mindful that Ireland does a massive chunk of its business with the UK so we should be careful not to bite the hand that helps to feed us.
@Martin Lintzgy: Torres want to retain power. DUP want not to join papist state.
@Pauliebhoy: Not only the housekeys, they want the caretaker to collect the rent.
@JustOneScoop: evidence please?
@John kane:
From the Telegraph:
“The EU’s Northern Ireland gamble is more proof that it is not a liberal trading bloc but an authoritarian political project. The UK has offered two reasonable solutions for a post-Brexit Irish border. Both have been rejected. It is revealing that one EU ambassador joked he would like to know how to set up a business in Ireland after Brexit because, under the British plan, he would be rolling in cash. That is rather the point. The UK has sought through talks to build a future that is light on rules and enriches both sides. Its perspective is pro-business. The EU, by contrast, is motivated by politics. It wants to humiliate us, to bind us to its regulations in perpetuity.”
@Martin Lintzgy: Factually incorrect “Martin”. Some Conservatives and the DUP do want a border. They are scared to say so of course.
@John Campbell: So we should give in to their bullying John?
Sorry, NOT going to happen.
@Martin Lintzgy: That is typical of the Telegraph. Unfortunately for the UK they naively believed they could leave one of the largest trading blocs in the world, contribute nothing, and reap all the benefits.
@Gerald Kelleher: You’re on the sauce a bit early !
@JustOneScoop: dont exaggerate,
@Martin Lintzgy: Clearly you do not understand thay the EU has many borders and is mindful of the different problems presented and not to weaken its own hand to favour a British solution. For Ireland the best solution is not to any border and that trade can continue as it does at present. There are only two ways this can continue, firstly if Britain remains in the customs union with its European neoghbours. The second reason and most popular is to allow Northern Ireland join the Republic in creating a united Ireland.
@Martin Lintzgy: what you’re saying there is precisely true. Only you have it backwards. The accusations you level at the EU is almost exactly what the UK are doing. Pretty strong bias that you see it that way.
@Martin Lintzgy: imagine you play golf and one member wants the whole course to his own but still stay in the club -
Does Ireland have any say input border or is it just between the eu-uk.i thought leo said everything was rosey.he doesn’t seem to be saying much about the border anymore
@dick dastardly:
The point I am making. Ireland has virtually no voice in Europe.
@Martin Lintzgy: Ireland is part of the EU, we work together; just as NI voted no to exiting the EU but must follow the UK’s decision as a whole. It is a true testament to the spirit of the European Union that every EU country supports Ireland on this issue. As was stated in the European Parliament by a German politician this week, “We are all Irish!”.
@Martin Lintzgy: isnt it the EU looking after Ireland that leads to all the rejections of the UK proposals? Ireland said “no compromise on GFA” , EU said “do what you want, UK, but respect GFA, UK said “oh, we forgot NI was part of the UK”
@dick dastardly: Actually yes it does. The E.U. has been massively supportive AND defensive of the GFA and the Irish border question. Even going so far as to structure the negotiations with the border being a key point.
@dick dastardly: You could be wrong about that, there is a lot of EU lobbying happening behind the scenes. The framework for the Irish border has to satisfy the criteria for EU borders with other neighbour countries too, ie: Turkey, Norway, Switzerland etc.
@dick dastardly: “On Wednesday, European Council president Donald Tusk warned that there will be “no withdrawal agreement and no transition” without a solution on Ireland”
Leo isn’t saying anything as he has nothing much to say right now, we’re waiting on the UK.
@dick dastardly: Have you not being paying attention. The Irish government (not just Leo) have done a good job in getting the border to the forefront of these negotiations.
Would you like them to repeat our position daily. We are in the same position as 6 months ago. That’s not the EU or Irelands fault.
The UK have agreed to
“specific” arrangements for the “unique” circumstances of the island; and, if those fail, “full alignment” with the EU customs union and single market.”
What more would you like?
This is incompatible with the UKs (and the DUP)s red lines but they aren’t really shown as being the brightest negotiators in this process so far.
We have to have faith that the UK mean what they say until shown otherwise. We (the EU) can’t just say the UK is full of shit. There’s a process.
@Martin Lintzgy: Again more factually incorrect rubbish “Martin”. The EU 26 back OUR position 100%.
@George Hogan: is that the same European parliament that forced irish citizens to bail out irish and European banks
@Kevin Moylan: Yes, we are the same Irish people who borrowed at unsustainable amounts from banks. Irish banking debt is a result of bad banking regulation in Ireland. You can’t blame the rest of the EU for problems of our own making…although, many do. Any chance to get a dig in at Europe.
@dick dastardly: Leo on time magazines most influential people list and where is he? Running as far away from it as possible, waiting to see what develops first before he appears and tells us that through no fault of his, we were shafted, and he couldn’t do anything about it! He’ll probably throw the blame on coveney to save himself, weasel!
@George Hogan: you forget our gormless FF muppets bent over for the EU and took on UNSECURED bondholders to bail their buddies out in Germany. Some friend the EU is.
@George Hogan: we didn’t work together on the bail out.
Ireland playing its cards right could be in a stronger position if they spelled out the benefits for NI remaining in in an EU customs union especially as the next census will likely show for the first time in over a century that there are more Catholics in NI than there are Protestants. The government needs to show Ireland as an inclusive society fit for everyone. I believe this is achievable if the government outlines how a future united Ireland will work better as one economic unit within an EU framework.
@Chris Kirk: Catholics / Protestants ?
Surely you mean Nationalists / Unionists ?
@eastsmer: Chris is right: there will be more Catholics than Protestants in the north by the next census, but there will be fewer Nationalists than Unionists.
@Chris Kirk: Well, they did draw the border to confect a Protestant/Unionist majority. They followed that with oppression of the catholic/nationalist community, to encourage/force many to leave for a better life.
@Chris Kirk: FF/FG don’t want a United Ireland, too many Sinn Fein voters north of the border, it’s as simple as that..
@goon4life: You’re as simple as that! There,fixed that for you!
@Chris Kirk: too many people trying to stuff a united Ireland on our NI relations. Why would any of them join the basket case republic? We cant even look after what we have now. Madness to consider it.
@goon4life: Then the best way is to reinvent politics north and south to accommodate everyone. If there were no unionists there would be no need fo nationalists either. A new dimension of socialist democracy and conservatives might be the answer.
Unfortunately the UK,are the “MAN” in this divorce,they’ll get nothing…
@Dave Walsh:
Sorry to hear you were cleaned out Dave.
@Dave Walsh: yep. After all those years paying through the nose to rear the kids and fund the wife’s extravagant shopping habits they end up with a bedsit.
@Dave Walsh: I can taste the bitterness!
@Dave Walsh: Good.
@Seamus Mc Meel: just for the record I am happily married,I love her to bits..the point I was trying to make was metaphorical…
@Dave Walsh:
Are you talking about wife number 2
@courageous: just the one for me thanks…
The UK doesn’t want a border. The only organisation demanding one is the EU to ring fence its common market.
What just happened was the EU sacrificing Ireland on the altar of EU orthodoxy.
Ireland need this resolved more than the UK, and sure as hell more that the rest of the EU who will be perfectly content to throw Ireland under the bus on this matter.
@Steve Fox: The optimum strategy for Ireland surely depends on what you think would happen if the border becomes a sticking point and their is no Brexit deal between the EU and UK at all.
Do you believe that this would result in the UK staying in the EU (or at least the CU) which would be good for Ireland, or do you believe that the UK would crash out of the EU unleashing all kinds of problem for Ireland from a very hard border to Ryanair being unable to land at Stansted?
Ireland needs to walk a tightrope between pushing the UK and EU to make the border as soft as possible but avoiding making unrealistic demands (like that there cannot be any automatic number plate recognition cameras at all, something which ignores the fact that on many roads the cameras are already there for security and policing and anti-smuggling purposes) which run the risk derailing the talks completely and causing a disorderly Brexit which would be very damaging for both the UK and Ireland.
@Tim: The UK is leaving the EU. A democratic mandate has been received from the people and needs to be enacted.
What happens next is of great importance to the UK, but even greater importance to Ireland.
Staying in the CU is not compatible with leaving the EU, so that will not happen.
I have no issues with Ireland’s approach other than Varadkar could be more constructive, bring some ideas for solutions to the table and then sell them to the rest of the EU if they look workable.
Telling the UK that we need to come up with a solution and then rubbishing any and all proposals put forward is an entirely predictable tactic by the EU, who’s raison d’etre is to prevent the UK seceding.
I’m not an expert in border technologies, but you can’t tell me that a solution is beyond the wit of man. The political will has to be there though. It is both in Westminster and Dublin, and I believe in Stormont. It isn’t in Brussels.
The state most at risk is Ireland. The UK and NI will absorb the economic shock of a hard border more readily, unpalatable as it would be.
Most likely the UK would simply not enforce it. Let the EU set up checkpoints, good luck with that.
Just to make this clear, the UK wants to find a solution to this matter. All parties need to move forward constructively.
@Steve Fox: but staying in the customs union is compatible with leaving the eu. There are non-EU nations in the customs union.
And speaking of democratic mandates, there is none for leaving the customs union. The question simply wasn’t asked. All remain voters wanted to stay in the customs union, by definition. Did all leave voters want to leave it too? Nope.
@Steve Fox: Steve, you present a very simplistic position from a British perspective. The UK is leaving the EU. No matter what anyone wishes, a border MUST exist where there is no CU. By virtue of the UK leaving the CU, they are in fact imposing the need for a border.
@Eoin Byrne: And if you google any videos before the vote you’ll see the main Brexiteers insisting that a vote to leave the EU doesn’t mean they’ll leave the Single Market.
So you might infer that many people thought they were going to stay in the single market either way.
@Steve Fox: rubbish. In the WTO they’ll need to enforce MFN rules which means having a border
I visit England on a regular basis.
I like to pose the question to Brexit supporters. If it comes down to a choice between a full scale and absolute firm of Brexit, total exit, and Northern Ireland, which would you choose?
The invariable and unhesitatingly response is Brexit before Northern Ireland.
One Brexiteer said that post Brexit, he would like to see Northern Ireland exited and have Great Britain without Northern Ireland. He described all communities in Northen Ireland as pestiferous. He says that Northern Ireland people are just a form of Irish people and not British. They are not part of British cultural identity. I think that on the Brexit side this may not be an uncommon outlook.
Brexiteers will not want Northern Ireland to be obstacle to full Brexit.
@Michael Lang: I’d guess that a massive majority of people in Britain would vote to dump the 6 counties. A big red bus, with the weekly bill for NI written on the side, would do the trick.
@Tanks a Minion: That’s a load of rubbish, I’m British and every one I’ve spoken to believes that choice is up to northern Ireland and them alone. Anything else would be seen as a betrayal.
@Michael Lang: Might be a few who think that but I’m British and most people I know think that cutting northern ireland off from our country would be a betrayal.
@Tanks a Minion: which we would pick up instead?.
The only one wanting a border is the EU.
@@mdmak33: Wrong. The DUP and Conservatives want a border. It stops “Cultural Catholics” and Eastern Europeans from settling, voting and accelerating the decline of Unionism in NI: a movement that frequently bolsters the Conservative a Unionist party’s position in Westminster.
It makes perfect sense to them in fact.
And for the DUP, if their economy is decimated they will blame Dublin. They’re laughing all the way to the polling station.
@@mdmak33: Isn’t the reason for the UK leaving the EU that they want to take back control of their borders?!?!
@@mdmak33: WTO rules with respect to MFN means there must be a border
well then tell the EU to come build their border, as neither the UK or Ireland want it… good luck with that!
I suppose it is too obvious to paraphrase Maggie…..Out….Out….Out
So much for leo,s cast iron guarantee ,The only sensible option is to remain within the customs union .when all is said and done the british people were hoodwinked into thinking eldorado was only a simple vote away .the only free cheese is in the mouse trap
She can allow the North to stay in the single market, Arlene will pull the plug, the government falls, elections are held, Corbyn and Labour are voted in, everyone back to the Winchester for pints and we all live happily ever after.
seems a hard border is on the way. she might be able to buy DUP to accept sea border with more Cash for the north
One remarkable fact that came to my attention in looking into this is the percentage of trucks arriving from outside the EU that Irish Customs currently inspect is 1%, the lowest in Europe. The EU appears quite content for them to do that and doesn’t see that as a systemic threat to the integrity of the single market.
The UK has an inspection rate which is almost, but not quite as low, although the container port in Bristol says that it has only opened 2 containers in the last decade.
The fact is that modern borders don’t typically require a huge amount of inspection of goods.
A UK-Ireland border could potentially be more lightly policed than Ireland’s current border with non-EU countries because:
1, CTA means that people smuggling is not an issue
2, contraband like drugs/guns etc are illegal on both sides of the border,
3, the UK is likely to stay in an all-Ireland animal healthy agreements meaning that veterinary inspections would not normally be needed (unless of course there is something like a foot and mouth outbreak, but when that happens you get movement restrictions and inspections even within a country),
4, a comprehensive FTA would eliminate tariff differentials and therefore an incentive to smuggle many goods.
It doesn’t mean that the post brexit border is not a massive issue and a huge headache that Ireland didn’t ask for and doesn’t want, but it does help to put the size of the problem into perspective. Both NI and Ireland are small places where most trade is local and both places are on an island with a limited number of freight ports out to the wider world.
@Tim: Excellent points.
People forget that there has been free movement between these islands since the 1920s, well before the EU was ever dreamt up.
Of course there was a physical barrier during the troubles, but that was a security, not an economic/trade issue.
Let’s face it, no one wants it to go back to that and it won’t. We simply have a problem that requires all parties to act in the common interest to find a solution. The only bodies not prepared to do so are the EU ones.
@Steve Fox: Ireland’s trade links with the EEC pre accession are wholly different to a post Brexit situation when Ireland is in the EU and UK is outside the EU.
The EU and the UK will have a common objective, establishing maintaining a strict and fully effective, impermeable Border to goods, services and people. The Border with Northern is the future trade battleground. Neither side, except Ireland, will tolerate a porous border.
@Tim: So we have the CTA. Would it not be imperative for the British to police the border to ensure that Johnny Romanian cannot get into the UK? Isn’t that the whole real point of Brexit?
More proof that the EU is determined to punish the UK and destroy Ireland. Looks like the bad times are going to continue with a vengeance…
@Jane Alford: I don’t think that Brexiteers are in the slightest concerned about Northern Ireland or Ireland. The EU may try to gain leverage over use Northern Ireland and hard border, but GB has scant regard for Northern Ireland.
In theory I believe brexit is a good idea and the right choice despite the mainstream media scaremongering and lies, however they’ve made a complete balls of it, I bet Corbyn wouldn’t have fu**ed it up like that.
@Jonny:
Would you like to explain the theory that you think makes it a good idea?
I agree. Voluntarily leaving the largest trading block in the world, alientating your allies and making yourself appear incompetent, xenophobic and protectionist to countries you will desperately need to strike trade deals (and quickly) with is an absolutely fantastic idea.
@Jonny: I would love to hear just one of your theories that shows that Brexit is a good idea – just one that shows an indisputable tangible benefit for the majority of citizens (sorry, subjects) in the UK. Looking forward to it.
@Tomás O’Loughlin: that is the point the EU is no longer a trading block the big boys see it as a ” United States of Europe ” and we dont count any more ,they may pay lip service to the government (who don’t give two f##ks about the people only the spread sheets ) to keep them in line….
@Peter donnelly: I think you’re the one giving lip service dude. There is no substance to what you are saying – just another p1ss and moan.
@Jonny: corbyn would be even worse!
@Tomás O’Loughlin: Xenophobic ?? – wtf is taking back control of political affairs and borders got to do with that. The UK are talking numbers, not religious belief.
For xenophobia check out Hungary, Poland et al. ..
Good EU members there.
EU wants a hard border and the brits dont want to play ball. Leo and the rest of our nieve law makers are flexing thier mussells with the EU against the brits. We should be careful as the solution would be to kick Ireland out of the EU thus solving the border standoff. Past experience with EU stance on the bankers debts and bailouts plus the treatment of the pigs, dont be fooled
The EU would have no problem shelving ireland with the britishto solve this problem. We are less that 1% of the WU
@Eugene Conroy:
By ireland towing and insisting that there must be border will be a lot more damaging to Ireland’s economy than GB.
The company i Work for exports about 70% to the UK.
The other European countries take very little, due to protectionism.
Like it or not, the UK is a much more important trading partner than the rest of the EU put together.
We should choose our allys carefully.
A simple solution ,hand back the six counties to the Irish people,and end the rule by the unionists ,But as long as May tries to cling onto power with the unionists wagging the dog instead of the tail,and the English people forking out vast sums of money to bribe the unionists to stay.
A soft border can only be enforced if it is tied to a UK / EC trade deal where the cost of reneging on the deal post Brexit would be prohibitively expensive for the UK. This would be much better for the UK than a no trade deal and, as such, the UK will use the Border as leverage for a better trade deal, IMO.
Don’t get why the EU are stirring this boarder issue at present you are very limited at what you can bring back from Europe countries. Even at moment certain things are cheaper up north, you don’t see a mad rush bringing goods down, even at moment you can be stopped by revenue and offen do see. It could just carry on same.
It is time Leo and Coveney extracted their heads out of each others ar-ses and realised that we are on a path which is devastating for Ireland. Ireland suffers most from a “no deal” scenario. More than GB and any other country in the EU.
I want to work for the soft border patrol
Some backstop alright. I haven’t seen a podium with Varadkar and Coveney on it for a while. Maybe they should buy one instead of hiring one, and bring it with them just in case they have another plethora of lies to dispense. Two boys in the great big world of grown ups.
Just give the 6 back and fook right off
This means WAR!
The curupt EU can take it or the UK should just walk away with no deal and build a long wall..
Put up the border and be done with it. Why have an open border with the north only for em to suck all the money out of the south because of cheap sterling. Cut em adrift. Special relationships my ass. They want out. Let them go.
Yet again thick paddy is not getting it… deluded with the biggest corrupt union in the world.
@John Copeman: I think May is an evil hag…
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