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A man stands alongside a bridge destroyed by Russian soldiers upon their retreat from villages on the outskirts of Kyiv, Ukraine. PA

Ukraine says it has regained 'whole Kyiv region' as over 200 protesters detained in Moscow

Russia has been withdrawing some of its ground forces from areas around Kyiv.

LAST UPDATE | 2 Apr 2022

UKRAINE HAS REGAINED control of “the whole Kyiv region” after invading Russian forces retreated from some key towns near the Ukrainian capital, its deputy defence minister has declared.

“Irpin, Bucha, Gostomel and the whole Kyiv region were liberated from the invader,” Ganna Maliar said on Facebook, referring to towns that have been heavily destroyed by fighting.

Irpin and Bucha, commuters towns outside Kyiv, were retaken by the Ukrainian army this week.

Ukraine has said Russia is withdrawing from northern areas and appears to be focusing on the east and south of Ukraine. 

However there have been severe warnings by Ukraine president Volodymr Zelenskyy that the retreating Russian forces were creating “a complete disaster” outside the capital as they leave mines across “the whole territory”, even around homes and corpses.

He issued the warning as the humanitarian crisis in the encircled city of Mariupol deepened and the Kremlin accused Ukrainians of launching a helicopter attack on a fuel depot on Russian soil.

Ukraine denied responsibility for the fiery blast, but if Moscow’s claim is confirmed, it would be the war’s first known attack in which Ukrainian aircraft penetrated Russian airspace.

“Certainly, this is not something that can be perceived as creating comfortable conditions for the continuation of the talks,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

The Red Cross is preparing for a fresh evacuation effort from Mariupol after thousands of people escaped the city yesterday.

“Russia is prioritising a different tactic: falling back on the east and south,” Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhaylo Podolyak said on social media.

He said that while Russian forces appeared to be pulling back from Kyiv and Chernigiv, their aim was to “control a vast stretch of occupied territory and set up there in a powerful way”.

Podolyak said Russian forces would “dig in there, set up air defence, drastically reduce losses and dictate terms”.

Moscow’s aim was to “drastically reduce losses & dictate terms”, he said on Twitter today.

“Without heavy weapons we won’t be able to drive [Russia] out”.

Mariupol has been an important Ukrainian hold-out, suffering weeks of Russian shelling, with at least 5,000 residents killed, local officials said.

The estimated the 160,000 people who remain in the city face shortages of food, water and electricity.

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said its team heading towards Mariupol to try and conduct an evacuation was forced to turn back yesterday after “arrangements and conditions made it impossible to proceed”.

The ICRC said it would try again today.

Protesters detained

In Moscow, Russian police detained 211 people at protests against the country’s war in Ukraine, an NGO said.

OVD-Info, which monitors arrests during protests, said police had detained at least 211 people during demonstrations in 17 cities in Russia.

An AFP journalist in Moscow witnessed more than 20 people detained by riot police under heavy snowfall in the capital’s central park Zaryadye, a short distance from the Kremlin.

Police escorted away people sitting on park benches or just standing around without explaining the reasons for the detention, the reporter said.

One of the detained women held a bouquet of white tulips, while another several times exclaimed “No to war in Ukraine!” as she was being taken away.

A national sit-in Saturday against what Moscow calls its “military operation” in Ukraine was announced on social media by activists in around 30 Russian cities.

The organisers said in a statement they wanted to protest “the collapse of (Russia’s) economy”, against Russian President Vladimir Putin and to demand freedom for jailed Kremlin critic Alexei Navalny.

“Russia deserves peace, democracy and prosperity,” they said.

In Russia’s second city, Saint Petersburg, AFP saw multiple arrests near the city’s Legislative Assembly where around 40 people gathered, although it was unclear how many were there to protest.

“Nobody will come, all the active ones were detained at previous protests,” said 30-year-old Sergei Gorelov, who said he came to “take a look and show support if necessary”.

“I just came to stand around, to somehow express my protest to everything that is happening. It’s scary to protest actively,” Galina Sedova, 50, told AFP at the scene.

Protesters risk fines and possible prison sentences by taking to the streets.

OVD-Info says that over 15,000 people have been detained at rallies across the country to protest Russian military action in Ukraine, which was launched on February 24.

War crimes

Meanwhile, the former chief prosecutor of United Nations (UN) war crimes tribunals for the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda has called for an international arrest warrant to be issued for Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“Putin is a war criminal,” Carla Del Ponte told the Swiss newspaper Le Temps in an interview published on Saturday.

In interviews given to mark the release of her latest book, the Swiss lawyer who oversaw UN investigations in Rwanda and the former Yugoslavia said there were clear war crimes being committed in Ukraine.

She said she was particularly shocked by the use of mass graves in Russia’s war on Ukraine, which recalls the worst of the wars in the former Yugoslavia.

“I hoped never to see mass graves again,” she told the newspaper Blick.

“These dead people have loved ones who don’t even know what’s become of them. That is unacceptable.”

Other war crimes she identified in Ukraine include attacks on civilians, the destruction of civilian buildings and even the demolishing of entire villages.

She said the investigation in Ukraine would be easier than that in Yugoslavia because the country itself had requested an international probe.

The current International Criminal Court (ICC) chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, visited Ukraine last month.

If the ICC finds proof of war crimes, she said “you must go up the chain of command until you reach those who took the decisions.”

She said it would be possible to bring even Putin to account.

“You mustn’t let go, continue to investigation. When the investigation into Slobodan Milosevic began, he was still president of Serbia. Who would have thought then that he would one day be judged? Nobody,” she told Blick.

Del Ponte said investigations should be carried out into possible war crimes committed by both sides, pointing also to reports about the alleged torture of some Russian prisoners of war by Ukrainian forces. 

Mines

Zelenskyy said in his nightly video address to the people of Ukraine: “They are mining the whole territory. They are mining homes, mining equipment, even the bodies of people who were killed.

“There are a lot of trip wires, a lot of other dangers.”

He urged residents to wait to resume their normal lives until they are assured that the mines have been cleared and the danger of shelling has passed.

While the Russians kept up their bombardment around Kyiv and Chernihiv, Ukrainian troops exploited the pullback on the ground by mounting counterattacks and retaking a number of towns and villages.

Still, Ukraine and its allies warned that the Kremlin is not de-escalating to promote trust at the bargaining table, as it claimed, but instead resupplying and shifting its troops to the country’s east.

Zelenskyy warned of difficult battles ahead as the Russians redeploy troops. “We are preparing for an even more active defence,” he said.

He did not say anything about the latest round of talks, which took place yesterday by video.

At a round of talks earlier in the week, Ukraine said it would be willing to abandon a bid to join Nato and declare itself neutral – Moscow’s chief demand – in return for security guarantees from several other countries.

The invasion has left thousands dead and driven more than four million refugees from Ukraine.

Elsewhere, at least three Russian ballistic missiles were fired late on Friday from the Crimean Peninsula at the Odesa region on the Black Sea, regional leader Maksim Marchenko said.

The Ukrainian military said the Iskander missiles were intended for critical infrastructure but did not hit their targets because of Ukraine’s air-defence forces. It was unclear where they hit.

Marchenko said there were casualties, but he did not elaborate.

Odesa is Ukraine’s largest port and the headquarters of its navy.

As for the fuel depot explosion, Russian Defence Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said two Ukrainian helicopter gunships flew in extremely low and attacked the civilian oil storage facility on the outskirts of the city of Belgorod, about 25 kilometres from the Ukraine border.

The regional governor said two workers at the depot were wounded, but the Rosneft state oil company denied anyone was hurt.

Oleksiy Danilov, secretary of Ukraine’s national security council, said on Ukrainian television: “For some reason they say that we did it, but in fact this does not correspond with reality.”

In an interview with Fox, Zelenskyy refused to say whether Ukraine launched the attack.

Amid the Russian pullback on the ground and its continued bombardment, Ukraine’s military said it had retaken 29 settlements in the Kyiv and Chernihiv regions.

Additional reporting by AFP.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 12:59 PM

    INCREDIBLE acknowledgement of the efforts of these women, and Together For Yes as a whole. Access to safe, supervised, abortion should be a cornerstone of womens healthcare in any modern society.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:02 PM

    @The Risen: All women were once a foetus. Protect all life. Abortion when the mother’s life is not in danger is barbaric, and evil.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:04 PM

    @The Risen:
    Agreed, and it should be said, even though we might completely disagree on fiscal policies, you did a lot of good work here on the same referendum.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:13 PM

    @Jonathan Moloney: You’re entitled to your opinion.

    My opinion of your opinion is that it’s BS.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:30 PM

    @Jonathan Moloney: So you think a 14 year old child pregnant following a rape should not be allowed an abortion?

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:33 PM

    @Jonathan Moloney: I’m of the opinion that forcing women to continue unwanted pregnancies is evil.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:59 PM

    @Jonathan Moloney: There was a referendum last May, you lost.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:56 PM

    @Orla Smith: NO one can argue it still results in the death of the foetus, wouldn’t you agree. Dress it up all you like to justify it, and appease your conscience, but it’s still barbaric. This we won you lose mentality is a bit infantile.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 3:18 PM

    @Francis Sally: That’s just, like, your opinion man, and it’s an irrelevant one. Let me explain – Anti-Choice people do crocodile tears about foetuses / embryos, but what they really care about is following the Catholic Church teaching and oppressing women, consciously or subconsciously. Pro-Choice people respect women’s private, personal decisions, end of story. A mammoth landslide in the Referendum shows that the compassion of the latter, trumped the subordinated mindset of the former. By all means keep squealing about BAYYBIES and not being religious, no one cares.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 4:59 PM

    @Orla Smith: where in my comment did I mention the Catholic church??? it’s my own conscience I go by and I make up my own mind. Personally I think it’s wrong but it’s people like you I despise most because you treat it in such a flippant and childish way by deriding anyone’s opinion different to yours. You really need to get that enormous chip off your shoulder. Yes they are babies and the way you refere to them as “BAYYBIES” is just as I said, infantile.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 5:30 PM

    @Orla Smith: Well said Orla. I don’t care what anti choice people say, anti abortion is always about religion.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 6:02 PM

    @Thunder Snowman: nonsense, it’s about conscience.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 6:06 PM

    @Jonathan Moloney: so’s your face

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    Apr 17th 2019, 6:14 PM

    @The Risen: are the other abortions wrong then?

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    Apr 17th 2019, 11:31 PM

    @Francis Sally: as you said in your previous post it’s your own conscience. Therefore it’s a matter of opinion. My opinion is that a woman must have the right to make decisions for her own life regarding her body. You don’t like it? No problem! Don’t avail of the service! No one person is a moral paragon. The people voted and had their say and it was emphaptic. You’re going to have to accept it’s here to stay.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 1:35 AM

    @The Risen: The Risen is still harping on about all women being raped. Obviously finds it hard to get some in his world.
    According to you 1500 women have been raped in Ireland already this year as that how many babies have been slaughtered since the legislation was passed.
    Safe, free and rare and legal quickly became just safe, free and legal it seems.
    Putting these blood thirsty women on this list is ridiculous, may as well put Ted Bundy and Jack the Ripper on it too, although they haven’t murdered as many as these bandwagoners have.
    So stomp your feet and shout about the church all you like, but in 3 and a half months you’ve murdered more babies than the church has been credited with murdering. Does it make you feel better?

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    Apr 18th 2019, 1:36 AM

    @Gerard Smith: so what about the fathers opinion ????

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    Apr 18th 2019, 1:50 AM

    @Gerard Smith: a woman having an abortion isn’t making a decision about her own life, as you’ve stated above. Pregnancy is not an illness, the only person dying as a result of an abortion is a baby. Texas are looking to legislate for death penalty sentences for women who have had abortions. Absolutely nothing to do with the Catholic Church either.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:52 PM

    @The Risen: Please stop abusing the image of Pádraid Mac Piarais, who was an Irish Patriot and a devout Catholic. You have more in common with the Black and Tans, who wanted to murder as many Irish children as possible.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:53 PM

    @Gerard Smith: I find that the only men who support abortion are those who abuse women for their own private pleasure.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 12:55 PM

    Well deserved!

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:03 PM

    Well i suplose Hitler was an extremely influential person too. He exterminated the disabled the unwanted and of course hundreds of thousands of babies too.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:31 PM

    @Ismise Máire: Hitler stated he was doing Gods work and had a concordat with your beloved catholic church.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:33 PM

    @Ismise Máire: ***Godwin klaxon***

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    Apr 17th 2019, 3:11 PM

    @The Risen: Hitler hated Christianity and sought to remove all traces. It was only that its removal was demoralizing the German people, that he reversed that move.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/13/weekinreview/word-for-word-case-against-nazis-hitler-s-forces-planned-destroy-german.html

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    Apr 17th 2019, 3:20 PM

    @Sean O’ Donovan: Why was the SS motto ‘Mit Gott Uns’ ? (God Be With Us) Hitler was a Roman Catholic, his parents devoutly so.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 3:32 PM

    @Orla Smith: Firstly because it appealed to the German people. Secondly because they were politicians- inevitable lies.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 3:35 PM

    @Ismise Máire: hé initially came to power thanks to an alliance with the Catholic party did he not? Mussolini got backing from the Vatican too.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 4:12 PM

    @Orla Smith: Der Führer’s greatest strategic mistake was in sidelining the Christian Churches in favour of some vague Germanic pagan warrior cult. Had he accommodated the Churches, and had they exercised their restraining influence on him, the outcome would have been much more balanced.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 8:55 AM

    @Bruce van der Gutschmitzer: True. Also the Catholic church had no problem spending millions to help Nazis escape Germany after they lost the war. An awful pity they are not so jealous with their victims.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 9:30 AM

    @Rob Cahill: once again yourself & Bruce tell one side of a story. Nothing about the clergy killed in the death camps or the jews smuggled out of the country by them. Yourself & Bruce would have been brave I’m sure & stood up to the axis powers.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:54 PM

    @The Risen: Pádraig Mac Piarais was a devout Catholic. Take it down from the mast…

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    Apr 17th 2019, 12:52 PM

    Forget about housing, climate change and healthcare… Leo not being on this list is what keeps him awake at night

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:12 PM

    @Kev: I think you will find Leo jumped on that bandwagon once it was apparent Yes would have a clear win. He will probably claim credit for their achievements in his own mind.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:39 PM

    @Kev: first of all, provision to terminate of pregnancies IS healthcare. Secondly, people can care about multiple things at the same time.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:55 PM

    @Aisling: There is no healthcare that requires a dead baby at the end of it. You are thinking of witchcraft.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:23 PM

    Well deserved. They headed a respectable campaign against unethical “pro lifers” who continue to harass and intimidate women.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:57 PM

    @Michelle_Herbert: they led a campaign of lies, deceit and dodging the issues, ably assistant by the most biased and one sided media campaign ever, funded by hundred of thousands in proxy funding from government agencies and overseas pro abortion groupings.

    However, these three women undoubtably were very influential, unfortunately their influence will result in thousands of ended lives annually.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:01 PM

    @eric nelligan: What absolute crap. The only result of their ‘influence’ is girls and women who would have an unsafe abortions at home now have access to safe abortions under medical supervision.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:10 PM

    @eric nelligan: You lost because you ran an appalling campaign and you alienated a lot of people.

    It’s really not that difficult to work out.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:25 PM

    @eric nelligan: World’s smallest violin is playing for you somewhere Eric. Maybe move to a country with restrictive abortion laws? I think you’d be happier. We’d all be happier.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 3:20 PM

    @eric nelligan: bullshit Eric, I donated myself to the campaign as did many of my friends & aquaintenaces. Directly from the pockets of regular working class citizens!

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    Apr 17th 2019, 4:04 PM

    @eric nelligan: Haha, you lost. Loser.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 4:20 PM

    @eric nelligan: You’re confusing yourself
    There Eric must be all the lies you and your ilk spun. Go back to polishing your rosary beads and leave women in peace.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 8:30 PM

    @The Risen: no abortion can be deemed safe tony as it results in the loss of a human life.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 9:51 PM

    @Bob Earner: Fianna Fail let the pro life side down. A majority of representatives were pro life but Micheal decided to go his own way. We had not one political party in the country with the courage to represent the pro life side which is sad really. Not saying it would have affected the outcome but it might have made for a more civilised campaign.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 1:47 AM

    @eric nelligan: well said Eric, don’t mind the stupid comments about being funded by tax payers, it’s already been published that donations came directly from a Soros owned organisation, one that also donated directly to shAmnesty, a donation which resulted in Colm O’Gorman going to court. All of this of course was forgotten because everyone was blinded by hatred for the Catholic Church and accusations that all women wanting abortions were raped.
    The fact that the majority of comments on here mention the old “I won” chant directly from the Catholic school playground tells me all I need to know about the mentality of commenters.
    In any case most countries are reversing their barbaric abortion laws. In Ireland they’d rather save a rare earth worm than an innocent baby.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 4:29 PM

    @eric nelligan: Funding, together4yes raised 500K in donations in five days!

    The other side has some dollars poring in https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/01/why-american-pro-life-dollars-are-pouring-into-ireland/266981/

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:56 PM

    @Michelle_Herbert: Your gang continues to kill women by abortion. Indeed, abortion is mostly a weapon for killing females.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:57 PM

    @Seamus Mac: Fianna Fáil have added infanticide to their long list of crimes.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 11:51 PM

    @The Risen: There are no safe abortion. A child is murdered, and very often the mother is seriously injured or dies too. Many women have died from abortion in the USA and the UK. Marie Stopes carried out 400 botched abortions in just a two month period. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4783694/Nearly-400-botched-abortions-two-months-Marie-Stopes.html

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:50 PM

    Stalin and Hitler were very influential too.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:11 PM

    @Seán Ó Breasláin: Ismise Máire already beat you to the “Godwin’s Law” prize.

    You came second (just like your Referendum result)

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    Apr 17th 2019, 4:30 PM

    @Bob Earner: lol, touché!

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    Apr 18th 2019, 1:56 AM

    @Bob Earner: you’re still shouting about having won. There were no winners here, only 1500 babies killed in the first three and a half months of 2019. You’ve already advocated killing more babies than you can wrongly credit the Catholic Church with killing.
    You’ve definitely won that title. More to come…..

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:02 PM

    Amazing women who helped cast off the shackles of Ultra-Conservative Ireland and the curtain twitchers.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 2:01 AM

    @Orla Smith: if there were so many curtain twitchers in Ireland why did they not see pregnant girls going into homes yet no babies coming out.
    Could it be that the church were dumped with daughters that families didn’t want?
    Would it have been better in your opinion if the Catholic Church had provided abortions for all those years and kill the people we now call survivors.
    Would Ireland be a better place?
    Your hatred for the church is obvious, but who will you blame when women start to come out with stories about being forced to have an abortion by parents or partners? Will it be your fault because you voted for it?
    What about the young man who has already committed suicide this year because his partner aborted his baby without telling him? Who do we blame for that?

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:59 PM

    @Orla Smith: Only to take on the shackles of being sex slaves for abusive men who will ride them and then pack them off to the abattoir.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:08 PM

    Delighted for these ladies. So well deserved for the monumental effort they put into the campaign.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:59 PM

    @Mr Bojangles: Whatever they are, they are not ladies.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:15 PM

    A very proud moment for our country!

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    Apr 17th 2019, 9:53 PM

    @Rochelle: Some saw this as killing babies and it is.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:49 PM

    @Rochelle: Any nation that eats its own young has nothing to be proud of. It is a dead nation.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:05 PM

    There’ll be a helpline available for anyone who’s upset by this news. Coz, ya know, even alt rights can be snowflakes too.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 1:39 AM

    @jamesdecay: I’m not sure you know what alt right actually means. This isn’t an article about racism!

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:43 PM

    Together for mass murder.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:45 PM

    @LUCY Thomas: You guys never learn do you?

    It’s this type of hyperbole that drives away all but the most fervent “Pro-lifer”.

    By all means, keep it up. Why not throw in a “Pro-Abort” while you’re at it just so I can get a full House.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:49 PM

    @Bob Earner: sorry i don’t subscribe to on tap abortion. Sorry if that offends you. In two months this year 400 abortions carried out. How many of these babies where healthy? See where I’m going with this..

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    Apr 17th 2019, 1:56 PM

    @LUCY Thomas: What babies? Ever tried breast feeding an embryo?

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:03 PM

    @The Risen: what a silly uneducated response. Next time you’re in the company of a pregnant woman, congratulate her on her embryo, ask her what she’s going to name her foetus or maybe enquire as to when her zygote is due…. tell me her answer.

    You’re hardly going to be breast fed today are you, you’re a human just as a much those who you advocate killing. Life is life

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:06 PM

    @LUCY Thomas: I don’t care where you’re going with this, that wasn’t my point.

    My point was your ridiculous rhetoric and how it alienates all but the most fervent follower.

    You’d have thought that you would have learned from the way the country reacted to the “No” Campaign but I guess being self-aware just isn’t your strong suit.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:08 PM

    @eric nelligan: I assume you mean a pregnant woman that WANTS to be pregnant, right? A wanted pregnancy versus an unwanted one are vastly different things to the woman carrying them.

    But you really don’t care about those women so why would you respect their words and feelings. Instead you pontificate on their behalf without their consent.

    I’m not surprised.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:09 PM

    @The Risen: You’re a tool! Nobody who values life before its born could ever reconcile their views with the likes of you. Yes you might value life once it’s emerged from the uterus, but your quip about this here unmasks the true intent behind your earlier remarks on this thread.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:13 PM

    @madabot: Everyone has the right to life but they don’t have the right to use another person’s body to facilitate their right to life.

    If you think it should be permitted you should support forced organ / bone marrow and blood donations. Because surely we all have a “right to life”? And if I need one of your kidneys to survive should I not be able to compel you to provide it?

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:25 PM

    @madabot: Your ire sustains me. Oh, and I most certainly value life in utero, I just value the rights of the woman carrying said embryo/foetus to bodily autonomy more.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 5:18 PM

    @The Risen: Your relativism sustains my values. ;-)

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    Apr 18th 2019, 1:54 AM

    @Bob Earner: could you speak to The Risen there please? He thinks that everyone having an abortion has been raped but your point here acknowledges that it is in fact a selfish decision. I’m glad to see that you’re on the pro life side here!

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:44 PM

    @The Risen: Do you think Pádraig Mac Piarais would support slaughtering our nation’s Future Generations in abortion abattoirs? Take it down from the mast…

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    Apr 19th 2019, 10:13 PM

    @eric nelligan: How strange that the Fake News media insists that the unborn babies of ordinary mothers are just “clumps of cells” or “embryos.” But, in the case of the British Royal family – every baby is a Royal Baby from the moment of conception.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 4:20 PM

    Remember the Three Graces of Greek mythology, Aglaea, Euphrosyne and Thalia? Here the three disGraces of contemporary Ireland, Virago, Harridan and Termagant.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 4:57 PM

    @Alan Fahy: are your knuckles sore Alan? Put some Germolene on them and stop dragging them along the ground.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 5:07 PM

    @Mr Bojangles: Yes, my knuckles are very sore from boxing sense into SJWs. Thanks for the tip.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 6:15 PM

    @Alan Fahy: The little hard man act is SO adorable, thanks for the laugh.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 6:42 PM

    @The Risen: I was thinking the same. I’d say he could box eggs, but after that……

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    Apr 17th 2019, 7:10 PM

    @Alan Fahy: “this page isn’t available”

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:43 PM

    @Alan Fahy: Very true, Alan, they are a disgrace to all of humanity. A case of the strong butchering the weak and vulnerable – and then looking for awards for the cowardly deed.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 12:54 PM

    Damn was hoping glitter hole were gonna get it ah well maybe next year!

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    Apr 17th 2019, 5:56 PM

    They were dignified throughout and took all sorts of abuse and ridicule from the very beginning. Well done to them and Im delighted their hard work and persistence has been acknowledged.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:41 PM

    @Dell: There is no dignity in dehumanizing and killing a person who can’t defend themselves.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 10:11 PM

    Hitler Times man of the year 1938.
    Stalin, Times man of the year 1939, 1942.
    Churchill Times man of the year 1940, 1949.
    Khrushchev Times Man of the year 1957.
    Nixon Times man of the year 1971/2.
    King Faisal Times man of the year 1974.
    Khomeini Times man of the year 1979.
    Reagan Times man of the year 1983.
    Bush Times man of the year 1990.
    Clinton Times Man of the year 1992/98.
    G.W. Bush Times Man of the year 2000/04.
    Giuliani, Times man of the year 2001.
    Putin, Times Man of the year 2007.
    Mark Zuckerberg Times man of the year 2010.
    Merkel Times woman of the year 2015.
    Trump, Times man of the year 2016.

    And there you have it about Time magazines awards?

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    Apr 17th 2019, 9:09 PM

    Well done ! An intelligent and very impressive campaign.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 10:11 PM

    @On the Up: Just like the Catholic church looking after babies…

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:40 PM

    @On the Up: There’s nothing impressive about slaughtering the most vulnerable in society for the comfort and profit of the rich and powerful.

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    Apr 17th 2019, 9:52 PM

    But the fact is people aren’t influenced at all in most debates, these people just seem influential with those who agree with them. People normally have their minds made up along time before the debates and people will accept what they already believe or reject what they already don’t believe. People don’t change peoples minds unless they grew up with these people surrounding them.
    Anyone else finds it incredible how now they say babies being killed and dumped in sewage holes is awful and yet they support abortion really strange?
    But who says those children were buried but were sold on the side to rich Americans instead???
    But debates don’t changes minds they just make many angry…

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    Apr 17th 2019, 2:12 PM

    Smyth is a fine person but the other two and this accolade are enough to make one vomit. :-)

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:39 PM

    @madabot: There’s nothing fine about the geriatric baby hater, Ailbhe Smith. She has rejected sexual reproduction in her own life for a life of inversion, and hates the very idea of life.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:37 PM

    These vile Abortionists join fellow Abortionist, Adolf Hitler, who was named as Time Magazine Person of the Year, 1938.

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    Apr 24th 2019, 11:22 AM

    Most of the comments on here seem fake and probably are fake

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    Apr 24th 2019, 11:20 AM

    It’s a shame abortion was painted as a women’s issue

    It’s also bad that male opinion especially dissident male opinion is pushed out of the narrative to isolate it

    If this wasn’t the case more people would know about the male pill

    Most importantly more males and men would know about the male pill

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    Apr 18th 2019, 4:35 PM

    @eric nelligan: Funding, together4yes raised 500K in donations in five days!

    The other side has some dollars poring in https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/01/why-american-pro-life-dollars-are-pouring-into-ireland/266981/

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:39 PM

    @JaneWest: Most of it coming from George Soros.

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