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Psychiatrists Changing the Mental Health Act will affect our ability to provide safe care

Dr Sarah Casey and Dr Aoife O’Callaghan say proposed changes to the MHA will hamper their ability to make quick decisions in cases of serious mental illness.

THE LAWS OF the Mental Health Act (MHA) are concerned with the admission, treatment and rights of people in in-patient facilities for mental health care.

At present, a range of proposed amendments to the MHA is being scrutinised by the Oireachtas. As trainee psychiatrists and future consultants, we have grave concerns about our ability to provide the right treatment and care for our patients if these proposed amendments are signed into law.

Those concerns are shared by our colleagues. According to a recent sample survey of 63 psychiatry trainees conducted by the College of Psychiatrists of Ireland, 77% believe the revised MHA will impact their ability to treat patients effectively.

Changes

The proposed amendment to the MHA that has generated the fiercest debate surrounds a person’s need for treatment versus their right to autonomy.

At present, if someone is suffering from a mental illness, is at risk of deterioration and is too unwell to voluntarily give their consent for treatment, they can be admitted involuntarily for urgent, life-saving treatment. But the proposed revisions of the MHA would mean the bar for admission for people who do not have the capacity to understand that they need treatment would be raised significantly to protect their right to autonomy.

It would mean admission is only “immediately necessary for the protection of life of the person, for protection from a serious and imminent threat to the health of the person, or for the protection of other persons”.

Essentially, this means that someone’s life would have to be under serious and imminent threat before they have a right to treatment under the proposed MHA. There is no other medical condition where this is the case.

Care in practical terms

We are at the coalface of supporting those with mental ill health and mental illness and we see first-hand the heartbreak of families who seek admission for their loved ones in often very troubling circumstances.

Take an example of an older person suffering from a severe depressive episode who is living alone and socially isolated. Some of the symptoms of depression include reduced appetite, feelings of guilt and, in severe depression, they may harbour delusional beliefs.

We have both treated patients who have unfortunately become so unwell in these situations that their thought processes and decision making abilities are altered. Some stopped eating and drinking and others believed they were already dead. Treatment in the community is often not possible if this person does not have the insight to understand that this is part of an illness.

While such a patient clearly is deserving of access to treatment, they are not experiencing active suicidal thoughts or thoughts of harming others, so they would not meet this new threshold for treatment.

The thought that we may not have any means to treat what is a very serious condition does not bear thinking about. The fact that we may be in a position where we have to watch patients deteriorate to dangerous levels when we know we have effective treatments available goes against all of the moral values that led us into a career in medicine.

Imagine a cardiologist watching their patient having a heart attack and being fully aware that they can treat this but being unable to and watching a patient die. This is the reality of the proposed amendments to the MHA.

Thankfully, not everyone will experience such severe levels of mental illness, but fair access to timely intervention is crucial to help our most vulnerable patients get their lives back on track.

Authorised personnel

Another proposed amendment to the MHA is that involuntary admission could only be commenced by Authorised Officers (AOs), who are often social workers, psychiatric nurses or other multidisciplinary team members.

The role of the AO is a critically important one; they provide an assessment and apply to a GP for a further assessment before a person goes to the hospital to be assessed by a psychiatrist.

In the currently used MHA, the AO is only one of several options to begin the pathway to treatment. This presently includes the patient’s family members, the Gardai, or another medical practitioner. If involuntary admission can only be carried out by an AO, this is highly likely to delay much-needed treatment in many cases.

For example, we have both seen many cases where a patient is brought to an emergency department supported by Gardai for assessment, often due to behavioural changes, self-harm or attempted suicide. We assess patients experiencing these crises 24/7.

If a patient is found to be suffering from a mental disorder and fulfils the criteria for detention, it is critical that this process occurs quickly as people in these situations are understandably frightened, distressed and may be struggling to trust those around them.

We are worried about a situation where patients are waiting for hours for an AO to start the process of treatment when this could be more quickly facilitated by a family member or a Guard.

Our goal is to uphold the right to care for our patients and to work in a system which supports us to expertly care for our most vulnerable patients, without delay and without having to wait for them to become a risk to themselves or others. If we are waiting until this critical point the balance will not always be struck. Patients will suffer unnecessarily and experience negative outcomes.

As future consultant psychiatrists, we are in favour of improved governance of our practice in all settings and welcome any support in the delivery of patient care to the highest standard.

However, the proposed amendments to the MHA would benefit neither patients nor medical practitioners, and if introduced, would have a hugely negative effect on mental health services in Ireland.

Dr Sarah Casey and Dr Aoife O’Callaghan are Senior Psychiatry Registrars and Co-Chairs of the Trainee Committee of the College of Psychiatrists of Ireland

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    Mute Kevin Higgins
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    Jun 24th 2014, 7:08 AM

    Any statistics for self builds?

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    Mute THE REBEL ONE™
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    Jun 24th 2014, 7:26 AM

    Very good question Kevin. I am looking to do a self build as contractors prices are still quite high. That said planners have now changed a lot of rules where by the different parts of the build have to be signed off by an engineer and architect and also that a lot of these direct labour builders are C2 registered. They are closing all the little loopholes that would have been advantageous to you as a self builder in saving money.

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    Mute Brian Rochford
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    Jun 25th 2014, 10:45 AM

    Look here for stats on housing starts

    http://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/Statire/SelectVarVal/Define.asp?MainTable=HSM12&TabStrip=Select&PLanguage=0&FF=1

    Select the middle filter “single dwellings”. now some of these will not be self builds ( some people do hire contractors ) but anecdotally most are.

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    Jun 24th 2014, 8:11 AM

    Hi rebel. The Law Society issued best practice advice that Surveyors Engineers & Architects should not supervise Self Build projects. They confirmed that Self Build was not represented within the new building control act. The Law Society also confirmed they were not consulted regards the Amended regulations Unfortunately the Dept of Environment essentially banned Self Build through a badly thought out & poorly

    BTW the English system embraces self build the Irish system does not.

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    Jun 24th 2014, 7:13 AM

    Considering the Law Societies advice that it’s best practice not to supervise self build it would be professional suicide for an surveyor, architect or engineer to touch a self build. To do so is to play Russian roulette. If self build was possible the dept of environ would have produced the legal clarification by now.

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    Jun 24th 2014, 7:52 AM

    Russian Roulette! I agree that cowboy builders should be stamped out but if a self build is being monitored by engineers, architects, and surveyors, how is it Russian Roulette when this is explicitly what they are employed to do from the outset? If this is the case building control in Britain are all playing Russian Roulette as they monitor contractual builds and self builds!

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    Jun 24th 2014, 9:28 AM

    What’s your take on doing the self build yourself? That is if you are an engineer yourself and wish to build your own house. Could you sign off your own build?

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    Jun 24th 2014, 12:40 PM

    If your a chartered engineer my understanding that you can both build & supervise. However you must satisfy your self that your a competent builder which I assume your not

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    Jun 24th 2014, 1:23 PM

    Thanks for response I am not a chartered engineer but have years of supervising buildings from schools to railway stations so I think I should meet the competency part. As in I could supervise my own build and sign off on it. Although the chartered engineer part it something I neglected to get when I was involved in construction as a site engineer. I don’t think this legislation has been very well presented or thought out so far but I do welcome some changes needed due to the likes of priory hall. Will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

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    Jun 24th 2014, 8:32 PM

    Rory the CIAT are on the way so all will resolve its self in time. I also fully believe the CIAT will call time on the new regs

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    Jun 24th 2014, 9:11 AM

    I have found that architects don’t want anything to do with simple house extensions. I’ve contacted 3 since January, they came out to the house, had a look, went off saying they’ll be in touch with ideas etc & none have gotten back. Rang & emailed them and no reply. Job too small & maybe not enough money for them to make.

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    Jun 24th 2014, 12:44 PM

    Hi pebbles. Well I can quote for that if interested :)

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    Jun 24th 2014, 5:52 PM

    Well at this rate I’ll be getting the digger & doing it myself. Have u a website or contact details ?

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    Jun 24th 2014, 1:33 PM

    Another misleading headline again. There is a spike in commencement notices to up to March as people sought to avoid new building control regulations.

    See here http://bregsforum.wordpress.com/2014/06/22/cso-q1-2014-planning-for-dwellings-30/ and here http://bregsforum.wordpress.com/2014/06/19/commencement-notices-building-register-17th-june-2014

    for a diametrically opposed account.

    There are lies being told about the property market and the construction industry on this site .

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    Jun 24th 2014, 1:58 PM

    Well there is a conflict of interest here obviously. The editors should be straining to make sure that they are overly sceptic when it comes to housing related articles in order to make sure that this perception does not taint them permanently.

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    Jun 24th 2014, 2:10 PM

    Dennis in this case The Journal are acting as a mouthpiece for another website . For that other website it is good for business to distort the truth about the construction industry.

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    Jun 24th 2014, 8:53 AM

    New building regs kicking in at end of March would have had a large effect here, anyone with permission already would have been lodging commencement notice before then to fall under previous regs.

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    Jun 24th 2014, 9:10 AM

    Impossible to get planning permission on a site surrounding Dublin (self build) most of the land around South Dublin is zoned agricultural and protected to maintain view of Dublin mountains. Born and bred in the area, have a business 10 years in the area, want to move back to the area & closer to work and I’m being told to move into a housing estate (nothing wrong with housing estates) I am just being denied the right to build my own home. It’s a shambles! I am disgusted. Housing estates were built and more planning for more housing estates but self builds are denied. The planning laws are an ass. All because of reckless builders and planning authorities taking brown envelopes, now it’s gone so strict that Joe soap cannot build the home he/she wants, told to go buy a home off a builder.

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    Jun 24th 2014, 11:09 AM

    Unfettered one-off housing is a scourge on the countryside – and equally housing estates are a scourge on our towns and villages. The current system is advantageous to the deep pockets of developers and individuals.

    The wealthy individual can afford his McMansion in the countryside whilst the developer gets to creel the ordinary Joe who cannot afford anything more than a “production-line” house in an estate tacked on to the edge of a town or village.

    This needs to stop. Proper zoning whereby councils must CPO a landbank for development. People should be able to purchase a site in the landbank for building their own house. Link the property tax to the amount of land used in the site and charge people a % based on the size as the purchase price.

    This would bring down the price of development land and encourage people to build their own style house within the confines of a town/village. This would strengthen the local economy and the price of delivering services to houses would fall.

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    Jun 24th 2014, 8:27 AM

    Great news! We are building 10% of our annual housing needs. Boom!

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    Jun 24th 2014, 8:54 AM

    Great .. Ill get the tools out d van

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    Jun 24th 2014, 8:25 AM

    All aspects of the build would be covered by an architects and builders public liability insurance policy . I couldn’t imagine the quagmire in the courts if something went wrong trying to apportion blame in a self build

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    Jun 24th 2014, 8:51 AM

    Hi P. Your completely right. The certifier will be liable. One point of responsibility – the surveyor, architect or engineer. The law society only require the final cert of compliance & nothing also

    But…. For that kind of responsibility comes at a price. If a certifier is responsible for every nail he/she will have to make dozens & dozens of visits for even a basic extension

    This comes at a price. That’s why your hearing €9-12K prices to supervise a one off on the radio

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    Jun 24th 2014, 2:03 PM

    It is a nightmare now in Ireland for anyone intending to build their own home for their family…I admire the UK Govt for their encouragement & support of self builders…they have it spot on…a building contractor is the one person that a self builder does not need to employ…we do the same thing!! #SI9toSEA

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    Jun 24th 2014, 6:08 PM

    Is there a campaign I can join?

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    Jun 24th 2014, 9:01 PM

    Contact these guys
    http://www.iaosb.com/

    Journal – why don’t you do so too and aim for more truthful reporting ?

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    Mute Brian Rochford
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    Jun 24th 2014, 2:13 PM

    I look forward to “The National Housing Construction Index” when published to compare the months April- Jun of 2011 / 12 13 + 14……

    Or better yet Cliodhna – go straight to the CSO source here http://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/Statire/SelectVarVal/Define.asp?MainTable=HSM12&TabStrip=Select&PLanguage=0&FF=1

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    Jun 24th 2014, 12:31 PM

    You can expect the figures for new start to continue to fall for the rest of the year. The system is going to have to be revised as it is unworkable.

    I was told recently that as many as 80% of commencement notices lodged with Galway CoCo under the new regs have been returned as ‘incomplete’ or not up to the standard of the new system. That and the fact that the LA are not up to speed on how the system is supposed to work. You can’t self-build………but people are being told that a self-builder CAN sign as a competent builder on his own behalf………….

    There is also a cost issue. You can expect the new certification process to add as much as 8% to the cost of the build – a house I quoted in Galway two weeks, the cert process for that came in at €9000. Another, in the west of the city is around €14,500.

    These figures belie the BS spouted by Phil Hogan who said it would add 1500-3000 to a house – he’s out by a minimum factor of 3. If you can find anyone to do it, that is………..

    See question 115 here: http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/(indexlookupdail)/20140604~WRN?opendocument

    And a note on self-build from the DoE, here: http://www.iaosb.com/2014-02-26%20Information%20Note%20on%20implications%20of%20SI%20No%209%20of%202014%20for%20Self%20Builders.pdf

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    Jun 24th 2014, 12:43 PM

    Hi john. The consumer will decide the faith re one offs & extensions etc

    The new regs plus the costly A3 rated house combined IMHO is too much too soon

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    Jun 24th 2014, 3:57 PM

    yes, but when: what is an entire industry going to do in the meantime ?? Sit on our hands ?

    There again, 75% of our work is in the UK atmo, so that’s a ++ for where I work.

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    Jun 25th 2014, 10:33 AM

    “Question No. 389

    Chun an Aire Comhshaoil, Pobail agus Rialtais Áitiúil:
    To the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government:

    To ask the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government when a table (details supplied) will be updated to include 2014 figures; and if he will make a statement on the matter.
    - Charlie McConalogue.

    For WRITTEN answer on Tuesday, 24th June, 2014.

    Ref No: 27030/14

    HSM12: Commencement Notices by Local Authority, Residential Units Commenced and Month

    REPLY

    Minister of State at the Department of Environment, Community and Local Government (Ms. J. O’Sullivan)

    Relevant data relating to January and February 2014 are available from the CSO and from my Department’s website at
    http://www.environ.ie/en/Publication…d,15293,en.xls

    Relevant data returns have not been received yet for March, April, and May from a number of local authorities, and my Department is working closely with the Local Government Management Agency to ensure that data in respect of these months is provided to enable the up to date data to be published as soon as possible “.

    This article is false and misleading as this written answer in the Dail demonstrates.
    Anything to say Journal?

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:14 AM

    the Journal “splashes” with

    “There were 3,524 residential construction projects started in the first four months of 2014 compared with 1,517 for the same period in 2013.”

    but for a more reliable source stating

    “Q1 2013 actually was an absolute historical low for planning permissions for any quarter since Q1 1975″

    see here.

    http://bregsforum.wordpress.com/2014/06/26/recovery-is-still-worse-than-the-1980s-crisis/

    don’t read the Journal for stories about property or the construction industry unless you want spin and deception

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