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The Daily PollTHE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE has said it’ll be up to the Revenue Commissioners to decide how exactly people are asked to pay the new property tax, coming in as part of the next budget.
While ministers have still yet to decide on whether the new tax will be site-based, house value-based or uniform, Revenue could yet decide to deduct the tax directly from pay packets.
This presents some difficulties – in that not all people pay income tax – but would be seen as a way of avoiding the non-compliance that has blighted the €100 household charge which will be replaced by the new tax.
What do you think? Would it make sense for the Revenue Commissioners to deduct the tax directly from pay packets, in order to ensure the tax is paid – or does this throw up more problems than solutions?
Should the new property tax be deducted from PAYE?
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5 Million people, about 800,000 of those are foreign (give or take), 165 incidents over 180 days, many of those incidents being verbal
I just listened to Shane O`Curry on Morning Ireland,
He used phrases like “many,many,many” incidents of racism including social media and graffiti,
Sounded more like he was trying to justify his and ENARS existence.
Again i`ll repeat it
5 Million people, 800,000 which are foreign, spread over 180 days and i65 incidents – those a pretty good statistice for ANY country..
Hyperbole much Shane?
O’Curry is an untruthful leftist. People like him need to keep themselves relevant even when society view him as irrelevant.
Also, it’s less than in 2014. Headline could have just as easily read “Racism in Ireland is on the decline”. Racism has no place in our society and is totally unacceptable and I think that is generally reflected in Irish society. There’ll always be a small minority of ignorant scrotes unfortunately. Given the times we live in I’m pleasantly suprised by the decrease in incidents since 2014.
Gareth….its just 10 years ago that acknowledging an African persons skin colour was deemed racist….that challenging a queue jumper of another race was “racist”….
165 incidents over 6 months or 330 in a year divided into population of 4.7m would mean that on an annual basis 0.3% of the population committed a racist act. I’d bet that would rank us as one of the least racist nations in the world. Not one in need of hate crime legislation.
Absolutely!
Can’t for the life of me figure why my comment was deleted – perhaps because it predicted exactly the troglodyte comments that were to follow.
If I had a euro for every time someone dropped a ‘the Journal comments are all racist’ comment without a shred of evidence supporting it then I would be a wealthy man indeed.
@ peter fechter 100% spot on…..the NEXT sale was on last week, was dropping one of my grandchildren to work at 4.50am for work….on minimum wage i might add! well, the que was pretty long and it was mostly our African friends…..alot of which i dealt with that week looking for their “entitlements” and have made all sorts of excuses as to why different types of jobs wouldnt suit due to childcare etc……it amazes me how they can be available to stand outside NEXT for the sale…
now , i do use the term “que” very loosely as many got our of cars and marched to the top of the que and fought with the security guards and guess what if the term “racist” was used once it was used over and over…..as being asked to wait your turn is now being racist!!!
“a multitude” is not all of them. And as far as I am concerned, one is already too many.
Expecting Africans to queue is im afraid imposing our cultural imperatives and norms on them…an unforgivable infringement on the tenets of multiculturalism because the concept of a “queue” is alien to Nigerian culture….thus WE need to accept this aspect of their cultural expression – this then will be a progressive step toward true multiculturalism. I expect you will bring this oversight to the attention of the racists in NEXT who are responsible for this shameful humiliation of this group of marginalised and vulnerable “New Irish” citizens.
@peter fletcher Poor you! You think your culture is threatened because you don’t know how to queue around Nigerian people (btw did you ask them where they were from?).
You are being ridiculous.
167 incidents REPORTED.
According to studies coming out of Cork social science department, it is on the rise year on year. New report due out soon and expecting once again a marked increase. Understandable when this place is a vestibule of racism, xenophobia and bigotry. Feeds into that entire narrative of hate breeding more hate and spreading the virus.
Que the masses with their parody of impudent denial.
Hate speech legislation sure did go down well in the UK. Freedom of speech should always be protected even if its by an ignorant racist prat. Everyone is allowed to hold an opinion and we can label that opion as we wish.
Precisely….
While I support free speech that does not cover outright racism and bigotry. While you pat yourselves on your back, it puts big holes in your moral fabric. It creates hate crime and people being beaten for their skin colour, accent or where they come from. It is the same bollox that marginalised the Irish, blacks et al. Society is losing social fabric and all senses of morality celebrated by emotional immature people.
Asking people to stop jumping the queue is not racist. I have seen these ingrates abuse the “race card” over issues that had nothing to do with race at all, and said they were reporting this to the ENAR website and phone the Guards. We are being taken for mugs.
TIME TO HOLD THE MULTICULTURAL FUNDAMENTALISTS TO ACCOUNT
The Multicult Fundamentalist media propaganda machine which has made excuses, lied, covered up, censored, equivocated, tried to label people as thought-criminals for opposing mass-immigration, as racists/bigots/islamophobes and acted as apologists for what is really happening in Europe – has fatal consequences for the peoples of Europe. These consequences can be seen in the 10s of 1000s of victims of violent and fatal crimes, exposed by nationalists over the years, and directly resulting from multicultural mass-immigration policies.
It is time the immigration-pushers and multicult cheerleaders such as the biased media propagandists, liar politicians, Open-Border Extremist activists and their immigrant rights NGO’s such as ENAR, were brought to justice and held to account for their crimes.
Oh! my comment disappeared. Did you report it? And then you go on about your freedom to insult an entire population because of their religion…
You indeed should be held into account for your hate speeches, filth bag.
and … SFTU!
prouesse f
I don’t report comments, I like people’s extremism and idiocy to be on view for all.
Perhaps you can back up your false accusations with proof,
1. Show how I am the account “Rowe”
2. Show how facts are “hate-speech” and show any hate-speech toward any people due to their race.
3. Show how facts about islam should be regarded as an insult
4. Show why a person needs to be held to account for speaking facts and truth
If you cannot, then I suggest the discredited view you are already held, will increase.
You stink like Rowetten. So… STFU
I regularly see a Romanian man begging all over Galway. I’ve seen people buy him food and watched him throw it in the Bin after looking for cash off them instead. He drove into my local supermarket last night while I was there and bought a number of groceries before driving home. They really make my blood boil, I’d probably be called a racist by this crowd but I’d much rather the likes of him and his chums were rounded up and shipped back to the hole they crawled out of. Nothing but scrounges and thieves.
Then we have Muslim hate preachers living amongst us and in the U.K. Condemning our way of life, again they should not be made welcome and shipped off. Sick of how pc we are becoming
Galway Spurs, I’m just guessing here, but the man you are referring to sounds Romani (Roma) as opposed to Romanian – I shouldn’t have to tell you there is a difference. That’s what the Roma do – they are a people of professional beggars, and from my experience of them, often worse.
Apologies, you are right. He’s a Roma. I’ve no doubt there are great people from Romania but I was only specifically talking about the wasters like this fraudster.
If everyone stopped giving these parasites anything, they will soon clear off. They seem to have moved on to greener pasteurs from Limerick, people have copped on to the leeches.
@ ronan sexton……..the worst of those parasites are still there!! have one family that live almost next door to the SW office and have been tormenting locals, tourists and businesses regarding their van…
apparently the van has been “stolen” and it was taxed and insured!!!
now we are moving on to getting the extra €10 per week payment for food for the dog…..they seem to have 18 on last count!! a lovely €180 payment from our taxes…..now agreed they are not the only “new irish” that has cottoned on to this ” entitlement”!!!
I have 15 pony’s ….where do i claim the allowance for their oats?
begging is a free market. people can ask for what they like, people can give what they like
@Jester VonDoom,
No, it’s a quality of life issue, it’s really annoying and lowers the tone of any areas it’s allowed in.
There was bo racism until the foreigners came
165 incidents over the space of 6 months is an extraordinarily low figure.Rather than telling us that we Irish are worse than Nazis, the ENAR should be congratulating us on the extremely low levels of racism in this country.
That would render their existence pointless then and the slush fund would be cut off.
i dont think we should be congratulating ourselves on any racist incidents
I certainly won’t be congratulating you on your level of English comprehension.
im distraught
How many of these incidents were proven?
damn these pesky subjects of racism, not wearing go-pro cameras on their heads 24/7
Either way the figure is down from 2014 which we should all be happy about. I’m pleasantly suprised by how low the figures are to be honest. I guess it proves that the bigots on the journal aren’t a reflection of Irish society as a whole
Racism is being watered down by stupid lefties claiming everything is racist or sexist lately ..people are just laughing off being called these things now as it has become so meaningless
laughing off? try using a racial slur to someone’s face. then when they’ve inserted the metal plates report back.
Of course Jester, because physical violence is always an acceptable response to offensive words.
/sarcasm
@jester. Yuk!
Marg you appear to have misunderstood what i suggest the likely outcome if you use a racial slur would be with something else? read more carefully next time.
Thought you’d be all over this one all right Liam/Jester VonDoom/Tariq/Petr. Complaining about racism. But you’ve made turning people against Muslims your life’s work. How are those two things compatible?
im guessing you’re Tommy Gunn / Oracle / Joey Weststuff?
oh yep, confirmed. troll harder m8.
From what I’ve read Liam, you don’t have many m8s. I’m certainly not one of them.
ENAR. Another one! Wonder who funds this lot and how much paperwork and sad stories do they have to generate in order to maintain this funding. Will 160 “allegations” cut it. Or do,they have to actually prove these allegations.
Any allegations should be taken very seriously. But the headline, and report itself, are misleading given that incidents of racism are down from 2014. It’s ridiculous to imply these figures are false but it’s also ridiculous to try and spin them in a negative way when clearly there’s been a decline over the last two years.
Mr O Curry is just trying to keep his job but if you look at the list we have Africans , when the first wave arrived about 20 years ago spearheaded by Nigerians is was a case of ‘ ah the poor divils they have so much to offer highly educated etc ‘ the last census however revealed the majority were on Social Welfare , Travellers of course are Irish so whatever might be said to them can’t be racist , Roma well let’s be honest anyone observing Roma life could hardly be attracted to them , Muslims are not a race but many people have woken up to the fact that Islams medieval ways are a danger to the way we live in 21 st cent Europe , Minority Irish ? how can you be racist to yourself and anyway who are they
The last census revealed the majority of Nigerians were on social welfare? Can you provide a link to this? Seems extreme.
@ mike cantwell….totally agree, these organisations only fuel negative empowerment and the end result is the focus is on what ” one is entitled to ” rather that what /how you can improve your life given the opportunity of a new start…
the racist card has served many very well over the years and will continue to do so until these organisations are investigated inside out…..the recent Console situation just shows how badly tax payers money is being used in this country!
@ lisa dorothy…..oh please!!! all you have to do is google and you will get the stats!!
wouldn’t go in for a bit of peer-reviewed research Ann?
@Jester
“peer-reviewed”, what a joke
code nowadays for pro-multicult academics supporting publications that agree with their multicult views, anything else, bye bye academic career.
Sorry.
Don’t believe a word of it.
Anecdotal evidence doesn’t add up to a hill of beans.
Most of these ‘incidents’ are made up by Dil Wickremasinghe on Global Village.
And other such vested interest groups.
It was nice of Dil to claim asylum here, so she could do us the honour of letting us know how racist we are. We’re very privileged to have her.
She’s on a nice little earner now.
are there unvested interest groups?
So a reduction in incidents compared to the same period the previous year shows that racism is “on the rise”. An increase of 18 is also “on the rise”, whereas 17 would be a “slight reduction”. Got it.
What you’re looking at there is a prime case of verbal gymnastics to justify government funding and relevance in the media.
i think the report was in writing there Jason, 22 page verbal reports never really took off
Islam is not a race.
there are no races, biologically speaking. its just makey-uppy stuff from a few hundred tears ago
That’s not entirely true Jester:
http://time.com/91081/what-science-says-about-race-and-genetics/
Human genome research has shown indications of genetic differences between individuals based on their location and environment. It appears that, at a genetic level, there is an argument for the existence of racial diversity.
Your typo produced a different meaning than you intended and is more profound
Jason you’re kidding right, that guy’s book has been pilloried and his science trashed by the science community. that’s hilarious.
Jester, how could his science be trashed by the scientific community when he wasn’t the one doing the actual science? In your run to dismiss the link, you didn’t really think about what you wrote.
Most of the criticisms of Nicholas Wade’s book delve into Wade’s conclusions rather than the actual facts that there are genetic indicators of racial sub-groups within the Human race. The fact highlighted in ‘A Troublesome Inheritance’ that there are genetic indicators of racial sub-groups hasn’t been refuted.
You got seduced by a Time puff-piece released before the book my friend
I actually researched the controversy around the book as well Jester so I would appreciate it if you didn’t make assumptions.
Like I said, the criticisms of the book do not revolve around the actual science contained within. The criticism comes from the conclusions that Nicholas Wade draws from the results.
@jason No there is only one human race and one humanity.
You twist things around as genetic differences are about the ‘expression’ on a gene; for example, they did find the gene for black skin in every body including in very white and blond scandinavians but it is not “expressed”; So no, there aren’t differences races.
@stefanovich It was said an repeated here. But why not say it again?
Islamophobia is a branch of racism because it is about aversion of a group of people (not of their religion) because of their religion. Based on that, Islamophobes think there are humans and sub-humans.
I have an aversion to the ideas spread by that religion. It’s not racism.
ok That’s your point of view. I am just always dubious when someone wakes up one day and all of a sudden becomes an islamologist.
As far as I understand, religions say every thing and its opposite. Yet, believers think it’s ok, because their belief does not rely on reason but on faith.
So what if a person simply does not like christianity, are they allowed criticise christianity? Are atheists allowed be critical of christian practices and behaviours, e.g rituals, sacraments and blessing themselves passing a church?
Is that racist?
Read again… if you can.
Blacks are more racist than whites ,fact.
saying ‘fact’ at the end of something doesn’t make it a fact
Yes, but by sheer coincidence, this does appear to be true.
Celtic supporters are probably the most racist group of people on the planet. They are so blind that they think otherwise, fact.
You`ve never met a Rangers fan i take it so Leo?
There you go on your anti-catholic rant again, I have seen first hand what Rangers fans are like, those idiots actually slag off black players on other teams while they have their own black players on the pitch.
Celtic fans don`t do anything like that, and again, i have first hand experience of both.
You are one of the most bigoted people to frequent the journal, and you ave an awful habit of mixing racism up with bigotry, you really need to distinguish from the two.
Leo/Tommy Mac / Seosamh Puinse well your own club Linfield never signed a Catholic for over 100 hundred years,fact.
Every time Linfield is involved in a ‘major’ match the isolated Irish community in the Short Strand comes under the attack as the fascists and racists make their way home to their Est Belfast ghettos.
Maybe the crowd banging the racist drum and waving the cards round should ask are they helping or making things worse for those who suffer genuine racism……seems to me quangos like the immigrant council of Ireland and its ilk would be far more useful and respected in general if they weren’t state backed having to justify their very high wages by suddenly coming out with these reports just to make it look like they are worth it………racism will always exits whether we like it or not. But I don’t believe its as rampant as we are led to believe because the world is now full of molly coddled, hastag and fb status loving, wannabe do gooders who if they don’t like what they hear or see they wave and bang the racist rhetoric……which actually takes away and damages what really is classed as genuine and hate filled racism
I don’t believe racism is on the rise here in Ireland. I see people of all race and colour going about their daily lives,in shops,in bars,looking very natural and contented and that’s the way it should be . they work hard and pay their taxes and as far as I’m concerned are very welcome here.they bring a great cultural mix to this country naturally you are always going to get the few uneducated fools who will insult anyone they can but racism on the rise?I don’t believe it.
You say “A great cultural mix”, you mean a stew.
Take of your black sunglasses Gerry.
Does it matter John if my sunglasses are black?
Are you implying I’m racist against your sunglasses?
What about the nordie’s do they not come into it
The best way to combat racism is to ensure that anyone coming to this country works and pays taxes, and if they don’t, they leave. Allowing people to enter this country from the third world and go straight on welfare is precisely the problem.
Agreed.
Since when are people entitled to welfare just like that? Sounds like another fantasy to me.
If someone comes from the third world to Ireland, they are unlikely to have the skills & language required to get a job and contribute. After some time they then become entitled to welfare and housing from the state. Of course their best strategy is to pump out an anchor baby and get citizenship that way which means a lifetime of welfare.
So it’s “after some time” and not “straight” as you said before.
It’s just another fantasy.
Btw do you feel the need to phrase things like “pump out an anchor baby”? That’s nasty.
The asylum route is the most certain and most rewarding.
Especially while they’re drowning, Peter…
If you enter Ireland as an asylum seeker you are entitled to social welfare. It comes in the form of free shelter, food, electricity and pocket money of 19 euro a week, you are then allowed make appeal after appeal in order to stay until you engineer it so that you can say you have been here long enough that a case can be made that your centre of life is now in Ireland, bingo, you get to stay.
I wonder should the Nigerians in Nigeria or Zulus in South Africa (who btw are not native to South Africa) should be forced to enact such a social policy in their respective countries/territories?
stevenocarroll…i think there are more generous benefits than is widely known in direct provision….why else would people “languish” and “survive” 10-12 years of this incarceration? It will become known……
Because asylum seekers are not authorized to seek for a job!
@Peter
There exists Exceptional Needs Payments which come from Community Welfare Officer, I am not sure if these are available to people in InFlow Centres. However given that human rights and EU human rights legislation would support any claims they make regarding what they may claim is a human right or the needs of their culture, then there is a high likelihood they may have access to “Exceptional Needs Payments” or the same type of payment but classed as a different label to circumvent any residence legislation tagged to ENP’s.
steve…..thats what i suspect is going on on a grand scale….iphones, tablets, cars, top of the range cameras…..all cultural necessities….i wont be shocked to discover that social welfare pays for annual flights home as well…for cultural reasons obviously…and i note you are recieving some hate speech yourself….!
We are in danger of becoming to PC, and accommodating and b4 u realise it hes sitting in ur seat
where should he be, the back of the bus?
Multiculturalism is evil.
Diversity means population replacement.
I am not Irish and I think Irish should become mach more “racists” as soon as possible before it’s too late. Before your children are in the minority in their own countries. What if the foreigners are in power and decide there is no need for you Irish or European no more, or they’d want you to become Muslims ? Where are your children going to go then?
Who is going to take them, give them safety and special treatments? Muslim neighbors I guess?
Lovely Kitten : You are on my Xmas list. :)
Multiculturalism is great when you are curious to find out more about the world around you. Of course, if you focus on your little field, then you will find no interest in it. But to call it evil is quite exaggerated.
Diversity does not mean population replacement: inbreeding is no good and is actually considered as a threat for any population; so diversity means enrichment and prosperity.
Replacement of Irish people by foreigners? Well the Irish should have more children… Having said that, the Irish already have a remarkable birth rate and it was proven times and times that foreigners imitates people from the welcoming country.
Foreigners aren’t all Muslims…
And Muslims, including the Irish ones, are not plotting on ways to convert the entire country. It sounds like paranoia…
Enrichment…..
It seams to me that the best way to avoid racism and xenophobia is not to force different races and cultures together. Tell me again why the multiculturalism is a good thing?
If the West is so concerned almost paranoid with racism why the political elite forces diversity on it’s people? There is no racism in countries that are not diversified.
Journal, stop deleting comments, it’s racist
Its clear to me that the “Racism” industry seeks to expand its lexicon of “victims” by including Muslims and travellers…for so long we were dutifully silenced as others did our thinking for us and kept us in line but those days are gone…
There was a time if u were Called a racist it was a big thing but because of these chancers people don’t care anymore
It certainly has nothing to do with the trivialization of racist comment and speeches.
This actually shows that the reporting of incidents is on the rise.
What that could mean is that people are beginning to feel more able to report their grievances and think that someone might do something about it. In the past people may have had the same grievances but not seen the point in reporting it as nothing would happen.
It can almost be seen as a positive thing that people think that bothering to report might have some sort of consequences.
I’m from Venezuela! I generally find the people in Ireland amazingly friendly! The ladies in particular I might add!!!! I do tend to get more than my fair share of abuse on this site, but I’m quite sure it’s more to do with controversial comments I post, rather than me being an exotic foreign gentleman!!!
Maybe a typo in there somewhere! Given the attention from the ladies! X for R!!!
I think reporting a person for racism is a great weapon when you have a grievance against a native, it also might get you up the housing list and has been reported over the years as a great way to get a free car from Social Welfare; “I can’t use the bus or the train because the locals call me names and spit at me, I am so afraid”. There so many support groups now for non nationals that I have lost count, each seem to be government funded to tell us what a sh!t country we are. Will any of these quangos ever report any positive? I very much doubt it.
Sorry, Rodrigo, I couldn’t resist…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6MtYQrYW4c
Jho, that’s the spirit, alway assume it’s not happening. That way when you see it you can still be surprised
Well said Jho.
@jho Why do you keep on thinking that foreigners hate the Irish and Ireland?
This report is about the racist incidents some people suffered from. They are not shouting their hate for a country.
And the “free car” thing sounds like a myth or some fantasy.
Oh yes the Irish are terrible racists! I have no doubt there are indeed many but don’t be guilted by the pro-African/Ilsamic immigration side. They are literally suiciding Irish culture/people and won’t be happy until we’re all a lovely blended Mocha people and we can sing Kumbya around the campside.
We have academics dedicated to promoting immigration and telling us how racist and terrible the Irish are.
I didn’t always hold this position but after coming across Ronit Lentin and the general trend throughout Europe, I became quite alarmed.
Google ‘open letter to Ronit Lentin’ and consider why this is happening.
We are storing up major problems for the future at any rate and as soon as economic difficulty arises we will find ourselves in a predictably avoidable mess.
It’s not on the rise just people pulling the race card over simple things as Ali G says is it because I is black lol
Let the white people tell us racism doesn’t exist, as they have never seen it……
funny how the people who come out on top always feel like they’re on the bottom
Jason Gilbert 1 hour ago #
I think Irish have seen it.
@jason I am sorry but I have to contradict you here because racial abuse does not suffer from any frontier. It goes in any direction.
I think it’s very hard to think of oneself as a free individual for many reasons. So one resorts to collective thinking (based on shallowness very often).
Jason, see my post above about speaking with an English accent in Ireland and also speaking with an Irish accent in England.
So racism is something only white people are guilty of? Can I take it the abuse I received recently from a Nigerian who attempted to queue jump at the bank could not be counted as racist, even though it was punctuated with expletives about the Irish?
Africans, Travellers, Roma, Muslims? Races? Nationalities, Social/Cultural backgrounds and religious beliefs are NOT races. So stupid. They are allowed to be criticised.
All you have to do is read the comments on the journal to know this country is full of bigots
All you have to do is read the comments on the Journal to know that the stereotype of ‘progressives’ labeling anyone who disagrees with them as racists or bigots is very accurate.
Jason….too true.
Your head is freakish in size
Very true Gavin.
Ah, fitting into another progressive stereotype there Gavin. When a progressive is challenged, they usually resort to either empty rhetoric or insults. I see you’re going down the insults route.
And you last comment is stereotype-free obviously…
How many believe that we have a problem with racism but that hatred of Northern Ireland protestants/ unionists is perfectly normal, even desirable?
the hatred in the north is evenly balanced on both sides
Yes Tommy, in Northern Ireland but not of Northern Ireland emanating from bigots in the republic of Ireland.
Well they aren’t really doing themselves any favours by lighting massive bonfires and dragging their knuckles down the streets, banging novelty sized drums every July, now are they?
Bigotry isn`t Racism Leo – and you can blame your bowler hat wearing orange men marching through Catholic neighbourhoods celebrating a time long long gone for the vast majority of that –
Do you even know the difference between bigotry and Racism Leo?
or are you just having a pop at Catholics in general, like most articles you spill your bile on.?
Leo Lowe/Tommy Mac the 12th of July is a public holiday in the 6 counties,a day to celebrate racism and sectarianism,it’s probably the only day of the year you don’t spend the entire day here
typing pish.
Ah well that makes it OK Tommy.
Leo are you joking you should hear what some of the auld DUP voting lads say about the Republic. Would make your ears burn.
Multiculturalism does not work if some who enter our country who dont want to integrate , Who believe that the freedom we have to worship or not worship as wrong ,we should only pray to Allah , Who demand their “rights ” but who would curb the “rights “of others . If you jump the queue on me i dont care if you are white ,black , brown ,or albino i will confront you and ask why . Those on the “left ” which i consider myself to be will turn on you if you question then or raise about open borders , If someone comes to my door asking to gain entrance i will check their credentials and if in doubt ring the company to check ,I dont thing its raciest to do background checks on those entering our country ,I dont think its racist to expel those who preach hatred or act as recruiting agents for those terror groups who want to kill those opposed to their beliefs .
Chicken curry
It’s on the rise on the Journal at least
An article about racist incidents in Ireland attracts dozens of racist comments from people who say there isn’t much racism in Ireland. What does that tell you about Irish people?
That they’re all a bunch of ignorant RACISTS and not wise and open-minded and enlightened like you. Congratulations :-)
Pretty much. Well maybe that is what tells you about the comments section anyway.
Care to point out what has been said in the comments section that is racist Lisa?
People like yourself who just drop the ‘racist’ bomb whenever someone doesn’t agree with groups like ENAR without question don’t do your cause any favours.
You truly are a swan amongst pigeons.
20 years on and still the Muslim population of the 6 counties are blocked in every attempt,mainly by the dup to build a Mosque in a rural setting within driving distance of Belfast.The British way of life,muliculturism,freedom of religion does not sit to well with our most loyal of British citizens.
Speaking through the UPRG the upholders of loyalist ‘culture’,the uda/uvf have stated they will “hound refugees from loyalist areas”.How these people still recieve funding for cross community projects(beer money) is beyond me.
Jason, comment above would meet several criteria for racism I believe…
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the NEXT sale was on last week, was dropping one of my grandchildren to work at 4.50am for work….on minimum wage i might add! well, the que was pretty long and it was mostly our African friends…..alot of which i dealt with that week looking for their “entitlements” and have made all sorts of excuses as to why different types of jobs wouldnt suit due to childcare etc……it amazes me how they can be available to stand outside NEXT for the sale…
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‘our’ is used as a derrogative term; meant to single out. In what way does writers grandchild’s ‘minimum wage’ have a bearing on the argument; should you not take that up with NEXT? How good is author at judging continental origin; is this only people who are black, or does it include white Africans of European origin or North Africans, and might many of them not be from Africa? Yes, there were people of some group-or-other who looked like those in the queue looking for “”"”entitlements”"”"” the author dealt with (presume this is social welfare entitlements) but were they these specific people (or are all people who queue and shop to be suspected)? Does author factually know the people in the queue are NOT working? Can the author confirm those who cannot take jobs because of childcare needs were actualy in that queue? Those who did not take jobs because of childcare needs are not dissimilar to many in this country because of shortage and cost, not colour.
To quote Stevie Wonder, “You might have the cash but you can not cash in your face”….
@ gregori meakin i have to smile at comments such as yours……its such a pity you dont investigate/research/analyse the facts that are so easily available and also look around you!
to answer some of your questions ( not that i am obliged to) 1. 100% those that were in the que were not working…..i know this because i know them very well…..i have worked in a specific area since 2000….as regards not taking a job because of childcare….again have had contact with the individuals and as a matter of fact they were in our office a few days later and i did have a conversation regarding work/childcare/ NEXT sale and the response was laughter!!!
the general response and belief within certain groups looking for “entitlements” is ….it is there for the taking and there is little or no research done to make sure only the genuine person receives what ever entitlement because most agencies are afraid of being called racists
ireland and its welfare system is viewed as ” sweet” and ” easy” terms myself and my colleagues hear everyday of the week….
before it is mentioned…..i am well aware of our own homegrown entitlement followers and of course they too need to be targeted……i will however end with this….the same vetting/ research/ fact finding is not in place for our new irish as with the natives and there are wrong decisions made everyday of the week!
Well Said Ann!!!!
While targeting the so called welfare system users, lets see who is the next target.
Let us see how we are all referred to as cattle to be husbanded and used for profit and nothing more.
“What do you know about farming?”
I replied, “What does farming have to do with women not getting work?”
He replied, “A lot and I’ll get to that in a moment.” Then he told me that economists, industry and politicians knew that the ‘flush’ economy was going to last until around the year 2000 (he was right), and then ‘welfare reform’ would have to be shelved because the more privileged people in society would demand all the remaining jobs of a slagging economy.
This didn’t happen because the Will of the Elite became too powerful and entrenched, plus the virtual war on “terror” that sucks all the money out of the treasury and spent on the new police state instead of citizens who are going to die from governmental neglect.
The local politician told me that in the interim, someone, namely women and children, had to be sacrificed.
Yes, he said, politicians knew that some innocent people were going to die, but ‘welfare reform’ was a ‘red button’ political issue that ‘had to be addressed’ because the middle-class and the upper-classes did not want to pay taxes to support disadvantaged people.
Therefore, some of the most powerless people had been targeted for elimination from society.
“It is no big deal,” he told me, “Every society does it.
Think of it in these terms: Farmers don’t keep animals that cost more than they produce.
People in power have to make those same decisions regarding people just like farmers have to make the same decisions regarding livestock.
Someone has to control the size of the herd. Unlike animals, it is the powerless, not the sick or lame, that are selected to be removed.
Politicians have to make difficult, executive decisions for their constituents, even if it seems unfair.
That’s what they are elected for and they are giving the voters what they really want. If politicians refuse to make these decisions, they won’t get reelected.
There are lots of people willing to run for office and make those executive decisions if the current politicians won’t do it. These choices are natural and a fact of life, Martha. I told you, every society does it.”
Surprised and confused, I replied, “Wait a minute, are you telling me that our society intentionally kills our own people, even women and children, only because the wealthy don’t want to share? That these deaths are intentionally planned? Don’t the wealthy know that poverty is one of the ‘natural’ byproducts of capitalism, that capitalism depends on an official ‘average’ five percent unemployed to hold it up? Are you telling me that all politicians, local ones to national ones, not only know about this murder but willingly participate in it?”
“All of them know about it, Martha,” he told me. “Now you do, too. Don’t ever call me again and don’t ever quote me. I’ll deny I ever told you this.”
There is also the problem of hidden racism in Ireland. In a job interview. If a boss has two good interviews. One with non national and one with an Irish person. He is 70% more likely to go with the Irish person. I’ve been there
Not true. He will go with the cheapest option. The very fact that he interviewed the non national would suggest he’s not racist
Any research reports to back up that claim?
Maybe you weren’t successful in the interview because you just weren’t the most suitable for the job. We have all been there.
@ olliverjumelle….absolutely not true!! look around you anything from retail, hospitals and i know of a factory that now has all their health and safety and staff signs in polish as there is not one irish person working there other than a very small management team……infact when they hired irish they had to leave as the bullying was unbearable!!
Good cheap Labour I call it
Well he would pick his wife’s cousin over the non national
@ oliverjumelle yes i agree but it is work none the less for anyone that doesnt want to sponge off the state!
If I went for an interview in Denmark, bosses there would take an Dane before me. Ditto with Italy, Germany, France, and practically any other European country. If I found myself in African country, my chances of getting a job before one of the indigenous population is zero. Would I cry racism and go looking for the nearest leftie-liberal quango to make an issue of it? No.
I wonder how many of those reported incidents were made by members of the indigenous population who were abused or insulted by one of the so-called “New Irish”? If such a complaint was made, would this leftie quango pay any heed to it? Because it happens, and more frequently than you’d imagine.
Now my post pointing out that my post was deleted, has been deleted.
Oh great the stormfront crowd is back.
Body that relies on there being a public perception of a problem with racism in Ireland releases report claiming racism is a problem in Ireland BOMBSHELL. I am sick of these rent seekers. Anyone who’s traveled extensively will know that Ireland and Western Europe are in fact the least racist places on earth.
What about the badly attempted racism of abusing anyone with an English accent in the pub after the Wolfe Tone’s tunes for 800 years of murder and theft? It’s even stranger when the ignornace is directed at people whose families lived here for a thousand years and who took the brunt of that murder and theft. Of course that is the racism and prejudice that dare not speak it’s name and is there in many aspects of normal life. It has improved over the last ten years though. Horses don’t have accents and you’ll never know where they are from as the bloodline is what they are generally judged on so they can’t win either. That’s one subject where I am quite fondly pro – Arab. Anyway, once again religionism is currently more current than racism and quite rightly so. It’s all down to experience of, and understanding the roots of evil.
RACISM IS RAMPANT Just travel Luas any day any time…..often ashamed to be Irish
If I wanted hysteria I’d read the Daily Mail
Maybe look behind the mirror and see who is pitting nations against each other.
Did it really ever go away….
Plenty of racism in the family courts.
Plenty of racism in the HSE-
Only 165 reports of racism , were obviously not doing it properly. Seriously though people shouldn’t be subject to abuse however we need to be careful about what is defined as abuse or racism because if the term does become diluted then there’s no protection for those actually being harmed. However the Charity /Quango sector seem to be blowing many things out of proportion to justify their existence. We are seeing the rise of the “ism” industry .
I feel it would benefit immigrants more to use the money from this agency to fund better libraries or literacy programs. Remember being an arsehole is equal opportunity its open to everyone regardless of race, colour creed or sexual preference.
When everything is racist these days what do you expect . the word is utterly destroyed and has no meaning whatsoever.
It actually an embarrassment for our species that someone who is born a certain colour that sufferers racisms but is then treated the same as some clown who suddenly finds jesus or mohammad and then claims racist when you call them what they are .
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