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Dr. Peter Boylan during this evening's committee hearing. Oireachtas.ie

Ex-NMH master Boylan raises 'major red flag' as current master hits out at 'misinformation'

Boylan appeared before the Oireachtas Health Committee today.

LAST UPDATE | 12 May 2022

FORMER MASTER OF the National Maternity Hospital (NMH) Dr Peter Boylan told TDs and Senators today that the term “clinically appropriate” as part of the framework for the new NMH “is a major red flag”. 

Boylan made the comments at the Oireachtas Health Committee, which is also set to hear from the current master of the NMH Shane Higgins who is in favour of the plans for the new hospital. 

Boylan has been a long-standing opponent of the proposed ownership and governance structure for the hospital’s move from Holles Street to the Elm Park location in Dublin. 

The new NMH is to be co-located alongside St. Vincent’s Hospital but the previous ownership of the site by the Religious Sisters of Charity has led to concerns from Boylan and others about the influence of Catholic ethos. 

Earlier this month, St Vincent’s Healthcare Group (SVHG) completed the legal transfer of the Sisters of Charity’s shareholding in the group to the new charitable company, St Vincent’s Holdings CLG.

Cabinet was due to sign off on plans for the hospital last week but this was paused for two weeks to allow for debate and possible changes to the framework of the hospital. 

The ownership structure remains a concern for opponents but the question of “clinically appropriate” contained in the hospital’s legal framework has also been raised repeatedly.  

In his remarks to the Oireachtas Health Committee today, Boylan outlined why he has concerns over that wording.  

“The phrase ‘clinically appropriate’ is a major red flag. Providing healthcare on the basis of this test removes autonomy from women and gives the sole decision-making capacity to doctors,” Boylan said.

“These words qualify access to services and enshrine justification for refusing legally permissible treatments.”

By way of example, Boylan referenced the Miss P case from 2014 where the life support of a clinically dead pregnant woman had been continued due to legal concerns. 

“The doctors interpreted that it was clinically inappropriate to turn off, to allow her effectively to complete her death because she happened to be pregnant,” he said. 

In his address, Boylan referenced comments made by current NMH clinicians that terminations are already carried out in St Vincent’s Hospital, something which demonstrates a freedom from Catholic influence. 

Boylan argues that it is important to clarify whether these terminations have taken place under the 2018 legislation or under previous legislation governing terminations when a patient’s life was at risk.

The Sisters of Charity had sought approval from the Vatican in order to relinquish their interest in the land and Boylan said during today’s meeting that correspondence between the religious order and the Vatican on this matter should be published. 

“There’s a lot of documentation that we haven’t seen and what I would like to do, I would like to see is documentary evidence to back up statements that were made,” Boylan told the committee. 

And in particular the State and the public and the women of Ireland need to see what I term the Vatican Papers. Otherwise, we cannot trust what has been said and what has been done.

Boylan argued that the proposed land ownership structure, whereby the State is to lease the land for 299 years, was problematic and that this could be ended “at the stroke of a pen” if SVHG were to either transfer it to the State or place it for sale. 

Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly has said repeatedly that SVHG is not willing to do this and Fine Gael Senator Martin Conway put it to Boyland that his suggestion was not an option. 

Boylan said that the State should continue to “push” for it, adding:

We are a Republic who are about 100 years old. I think it’s time that we stood up for ourselves as a people, face down the church and said we need that land.

The current Master of the National Maternity Hospital Shane Higgins is expected to challenge Boylan’s views before when he appears before the committee. 

“It has been difficult to hear claims both in the media and in this room that my fervent support for the proposed move to Elm Park is some kind of surrender to the Church,” Higgins is expected to say.

“Legitimate concerns are welcome and deserve every consideration, but we must also deal in facts, and I am alarmed by the combination of emotive misinformation and misunderstanding that prevails. 

“Just because the contracts underpinning the new hospital appear complex does not indicate the church stealing influence over women’s reproductive choices through clever contractual stealth.”

Higgins is also expected to outline that the discussion around the phrase “clinically appropriate” has led to a “misplaced fear” that it will allow the Vatican to stop certain procedures.

He will say that this needs to be challenged.

“This wording serves as future-proofing, to ensure that the new maternity hospital cannot be converted into any other type of hospital in the future.

“It guarantees that the new NMH will remain, throughout its lifespan, as a maternity, gynaecology and neonatal hospital, and in this way, this significant investment into world-class maternity care in Ireland is protected,” Higgins is expected to say.

Health Minister Stephen Donnelly appeared before the Health Committee yesterday alongside other representatives who are in favour of the NMH move to Elm Park.  

Another former master of the NMH, Dr Rhona Mahony, is also in favour of the plans and she appeared before the committee yesterday. 

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Donnelly faced questions about the controversy in the Dáil today, with Social Democrats co-leader Róisín Shortall TD asking why, among “pages and pages” of legal documents, there is not a definition of “clinically appropriate”. 

She described this as “particularly baffling” and said a definition would remove some of the confusion around it.  

In response, Donnelly said the phrase is “a normal phrase used all the time” among doctors and he compared it to the use of phrases such as “obstetrics or gynaecology”.  

Shortall rejected that comparison and said it was “open to ambiguity”. 

In response to questions from Sinn Féin’s David Cullinane TD, Donnelly said he would provide a “letter of comfort” in which his interpretation of the phrase would be outlined. 

This, he said, would have a degree of legal authority. 

“The advice I’ve had previously is Oireachtas debate does have some legal standing,” Donnelly said. 

During today’s committee hearing, Shortall asked solicitor Simon McGarr whether the minister’s promise to provide a definition of ‘clinically appropriate’ would be helpful. 

McGarr said that one issue is that one party’s understanding of the intention of a phrase may not be the same as another party to an agreement.

McGarr raised concerns about the retention of the phrase, saying that it leads to ambiguity which may be helpful “in the political world” but not in law. 

McGarr said that ambiguous terms can lead to “unexpected, unwanted and sometimes even perverse interpretations”. 

“An area where there is an undefined term that is going to be discovered later what it means is an area where we can anticipate problems into the future between the parties,” he said. 

McGarr said that based on the minister’s own comments the phrase was inserted at the request of the HSE and that it should therefore be “in the gift” of the State to remove it.

“Surely the correct response would be to simply remove the controversial clause, which has not got the need for it as other definitions do,” he said.  

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During yesterday’s committee, Donnelly had left the door open to changes to the proposals before the matter returns to Cabinet next week. 

In response to Cullinane today, Donnelly said that he “won’t rule anything out” but that any alterations to the proposals wouldn’t be “major changes”.

Yesterday, the Oireachtas Health Committee wrote to Donnelly asking that there be a delay in next week’s planned Cabinet decision on the hospital move.  

Speaking in the Dáil today however, Tánaiste Leo Varadkar said: “I expect there will be a government decision on the matter next Tuesday, but we will see how things develop between now and then.”

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    Mute Jay McGregor
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    Feb 26th 2015, 12:45 PM

    Middle class, in his twenties, could have easily got a job as a programmer and enjoyed a decent lifestyle in London. The world was his oyster. Instead he decides to join up with a 14th century fascist cult and engage in headhacking, murder, rape and pillage.

    Utterly baffling.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 12:47 PM

    Weak minded… He may yet pay for it, too.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 12:48 PM

    Are you talking about Enda Kenny?

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:05 PM

    Yes, but he probably saw it as a life spent fighting for a greater cause, as opposed to the predictable drudgery of an average life.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:09 PM

    I suppose it depends on your definition of “greater cause”, really. Living in the desert, being a Muslim fundamentalist head the ball and seeking to decapitate non-Muslims and other Muslims alike seems fairly shite to me.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:15 PM

    There is a fair size bounty on Jahadi John’s head I’d say…..

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:19 PM

    He is a Shiite alright. Where as if he stayed in London he could have had a Sunni disposition.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:05 PM

    “A greater cause”….Seriously???

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    Feb 26th 2015, 3:21 PM

    Kaiser Kenny to us plebs… €3500 per week plus expenses.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 3:33 PM

    Hey Shane Kearney if that’s you in the photo there you don’t exactly look as if you qualify to talk about
    “the predictable drudgery of an average life” yet. Give it a few more years. Run along little boy, the grown ups are talking here.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 8:14 PM

    The be fair to Shane he only speculated what he thought jihadi john might have thought about going to Syria.
    It was in response to a comment asking why anyone would do that and he might not be far wrong.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 10:00 PM

    at least people are talking about him now! Probably wouldn’t have any articles on The Journal about him if he had become a full-time programmer.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 11:35 PM

    Pitty Chris Kyle wasn’t around to take him out!!

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    Feb 27th 2015, 7:33 AM

    You’re absolutely right Shane, probably the smartest comment here. It is purely a belief on a greater cause. After all why do it?
    I find it funny how people have responded to your comment though, it just goes to show the type of short mindedness, and stupidity that a lot of people have.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 11:45 AM

    I wonder when western bombs and missiles blow children apart and slice hundreds of parents heads off to they get fed the same type of propaganda as we do, so they’ll hate us even more?……..

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    Feb 26th 2015, 12:42 PM

    His first name is Mohammed? Jeeze, was’nt expecting that!

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:02 PM

    I had a feeling his name wasn’t John.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:13 PM

    Perhaps he should now be referred to as ‘Jihadi Mohammed’?

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:51 PM

    Or “just john”

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    Feb 26th 2015, 7:11 PM

    Well Mohammed is the most common first name in the world. So mathematically he was most likely to be called Mohammed anyway.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 7:12 PM

    A chip of the old block then. The original Mohammed also enjoyed a spot of beheading.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 10:59 PM

    @Scipio, I think that sonia fancies us, following us around like a poodle in heat :-0

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    Feb 26th 2015, 12:45 PM

    Give him a fair trial and hang him.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 12:49 PM

    A 1000lbs bomb would save all the hassle of a trial.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 12:56 PM

    They should of been taken out long before this.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:16 PM

    Sometimes it’s good for the US and Britain to have a madman like this going around chopping peoples heads off. When they want to plough billions into the war on terror they can point to the likes of your man and say this is why we’re doing it, to protect you… When it was all the crap that came after 9/11 that created a vacuum for these lads to exist..

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    Feb 26th 2015, 9:37 PM

    According to the bbc website the MI5 tried to recruit him before he left.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 12:43 PM

    He’s going to have a short life, guaranteed.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:32 PM

    Let’s hope so…

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:40 PM

    Yeah but he knows that too. He thinks he gets all these virgins when he dies.

    Boy is he in for a big surprise

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:11 PM

    Let’s hope he meets his fate at the hands of one of the native groups in Syria/Iraq that IS have persecuted.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:33 PM

    He really fits the description that so many people have given Chris Kyle;

    A bloodthirsty foreigner, part of an imperialist army which is supporting an oppressive regime, revelling in killing innocent civilians

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:44 PM

    Except kyle did not kill innocent civilians.

    I’d be of the mentality that they are about to kill one of ours I can prevent that by killing them.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 3:06 PM

    I agree with you about Chris Kyle. I’m making the point that his detractors are missing someone who really does all the things they claim to hate so much

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    Feb 26th 2015, 8:12 PM

    @Niall et al. 2 things the would be terrorist fear are 1: being cut off the welfare and
    2: Deportation
    So it is here we in the West can do something to lessen the terror. Cut them off now and throw them out fast.
    Additionally anyone covering for their welfare while away chopping heads off should be deported with them.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:05 PM

    Skinned alive would be too good for this absolute animal

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    Feb 27th 2015, 1:19 PM

    Based on what evidence? There is a bullshit newspaper naming someone, not a trial, not beyond reasonable doubt, have you suspended your brain?

    Do you think we should execute anyone named by some newspaper without due process trial or certainty?
    An acquaintance said he was sure it was the same person……seriously, thats it?????

    would not stand up in court would be hearsay and thrown out, our society has rules, protections on people from this primitive witchhunt.

    I would be the first to agree with you if you had a leg to stand on. Whoever the person is appears to be an animal, also bear in mind no evidence exist of him cutting any heads off, just holding a knife and then the aftermath.

    I am justifying nothing, however you are jumping to conclusions, making assumptions, and convicting someone without sufficient evidence.
    That too in a civilised society is behaving like an animal.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 12:43 PM

    Still haven’t figured out who Banksy is.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:01 PM

    His mother must be so proud.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:00 PM

    The granny was from Muff it has been suggested.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:42 PM

    Will be interesting when media go to his family. To be fair they could be nice people and living a nightmare.

    What I’d be interested to know the media named another person as him before? Where is he?? He could be sitting on a multi million pound claim

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    Feb 26th 2015, 3:15 PM

    Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary is the guy. Posted a pic of himself on Twitter holding a severed head so a legal claim may be problematic.

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    Feb 27th 2015, 12:31 AM

    Fair enough; )

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:05 PM

    Shows what ideologies of madness can lead too! The PC brigade always say it’s not the “Moderate” Muslims etc but plenty of the “Moderates” don’t seem to need a big push to join the extremists.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:21 PM

    He apparently became radicalised after being detained by authorities following a flight to Tanzania and being accused by British intelligence officers of trying to make his way to Somalia”

    Fcuk me it didn’t take much to radicalise him?

    I got detained at Gatwick in the early 90′s and brought into a room to be questioned the IRA were still in full swing on the British mainland at that time, didn’t prompt me to want to join the RA.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:37 PM

    Atticus there are a growing number of moderate muslims coming out & condemning the actions of these groups & also criticising the politicisation of islam. Quilliam are one such group founded by former jihadists. Even Muslims are growing tired of the actions of these groups.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:51 PM

    Mjhint,, Maajid Nawaz is a breath of fresh air from the Quilliam Foundation but surprise surprise he is also reviled by many other so called moderate Muslims.

    For every Maajid you have a wolf in sheep clothing like Ashgar Bukhari, who gets far too much air time off the likes of the BBC and Sky, the guy is quite obviously a stealth Jihad.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 3:17 PM

    BBC Poll: 27 Percent of British Muslims Sympathize with ‘Charlie Hebdo’ Shooters. Some 11 per cent said that magazines which publish images of the Prophet Mohammed “deserve to be attacked.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 3:39 PM

    So what should we do william? Forget about the moderates they might become radicalised in the future right? Should the west just deport them all to some dump of a ME country and nuke the lot of them? I mean theres only about a billion muslims in the world. When people keeplabelling them all and suspecting them all of terrorism then it wont take much to radicalise the young and the restless. It happens everywhere there is an aggressor and and enemy, the dissillusioned always end up radicalised and thats all cultures not just muslims. It happened right here in ireland because of the brits years ago , it happened in africa because of the european colonists, it happen in america north and south. As long as there are powerful countries preying on weaker ones there will always be the risk of restless natives

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    Feb 26th 2015, 10:56 PM

    Oh go away you hate filled man

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    Feb 27th 2015, 12:15 AM

    To be fair the divide and conquer has come back to haunt the empire while I don’t agree with Islamist and there religion Britain has it’s hands full on this one!!

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    Feb 26th 2015, 12:47 PM

    Every effort should be made to capture that fu@ker and bring him back to the UK for a public stoning..

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:40 PM

    Bit cruel calling him Jihadi John, after John Lennon. Seeing as John Lennon was a man of peace, who detested war and religion.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 3:01 PM

    What about John the Baptist who liked nothing more than dunking people in rivers.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 3:22 PM

    Sure I know a fella at work named John too, real sound lad. Tsk tsk tsk.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 9:39 PM

    Keelan you are a comic, oh the laughter, you should have your own show

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    Feb 26th 2015, 10:06 PM

    Coincidentally, John the baptist was also present at at least one beheading.

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    Feb 27th 2015, 12:03 AM

    Keenan nobody drowned!!

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    Feb 27th 2015, 12:05 AM

    Sorry meant kealan

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    Feb 27th 2015, 12:06 AM

    Jesus meant keelan predicted text

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    Feb 26th 2015, 12:49 PM

    Hope someone hunts him and his ilk down, he will sleep with one eye open from now on! Thete is ain old saying :- “it’s a long road that doesn’t have a turn on it”

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:16 PM

    Dear John,
    we know where you live,
    your friends in Allah,
    the SAS and SEALs

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:46 PM

    I couldn’t bring myself to watch the Jordanian pilot being burned alive by those savages but I’d make an exception if jihadi john was in the cage!

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    Feb 26th 2015, 4:11 PM

    This is where they discuss the merits of burning people alive. Bad as Dail Eireann is I can’t see the Ceann Comhairle allowing this sort of savagery.
    “On February 4, 2015, the Egyptian news website Akhbarak.net reported that the Qatari Fatwa Center, a body belonging to the Qatari government, had removed from its website a fatwa permitting execution by burning. The Fatwa Center is part of Qatar’s Religious Da’wa and Guidance Authority, which belongs to this country’s ministry of religious endowments and Islamic affairs. According to Akhbarak, the Fatwa Center removed the fatwa from its website, Islamweb.net, a few hours after the burning of the Jordanian pilot, Mu’adh Al-Kasasbeh, by the Islamic State (ISIS) became known. However, a search of this site reveals that the fatwa, issued in June 2009, is still available on another part of the Qatari website, as well as two earlier fatwas that make a similar point.”

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    Feb 26th 2015, 8:42 PM

    Uncle Mort=Scipio=Zioniiiiiiist.Probably works for the Israeli embassy or the mossad.The sh.t he comes up with everyday speaks volume.Zzzzzz

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    Feb 27th 2015, 12:36 AM

    I actually did watch it.

    Yeah was fairly cruel. I’ve seen all the head hacking videos and as awful as they are if they get the artery quick your dead in seconds or if the go for Base of skull and sever spinal cord lights out.

    But burning is not quick he felt everything till his nerves burned away. Horrible

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    Feb 27th 2015, 1:55 AM

    @Mort et al. For those who may be enamoured of Qatar owing to Qatar Airways Adds please note that Qatar is the current home of world terror housing such infamous characters as Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal. Muslim Brotherhood Al- Qaradawa and Al Jazeera terror supporting news network. Qatar is also building the Clongriffin Megamosque/Megafort in Dublin, Ireland.
    Hamas Leader living in great style in Qatar .
    Khaled Meshaal is a dear guest in Qatar. He is in fact at home,” Khalid al-Attiyah said, denying that the head of Hamas’ politburo was set to relocate to Turkey.
    Qaradawi who runs MB in Ireland also living in great style in Qatar.
    The father of these four “Irish” siblings is the sheikh of the largest (sunni) mosque in Dublin, the Clonskeagh mosque, which hosted radical islamic speakers, and is linked to the Muslim Brotherhood — ! Also called the ICCI (Islamic Cultural Center in Ireland), this radical mosque serves as headquarters of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, headed by Muslim Brotherhood-linked cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi. Here are 2 links on this mosque:

    http://markhumphrys.com/clonskeagh.html :

    Al Jazeera terror newsmedia sponsored by Qatar.
    After September 11, 2001, the network’s headquarters in Doha reportedly put on display multiple pictures in its studio honoring the deceased Al Qaeda terrorist Osama bin Laden.

    In 2013, dozens of staff resigned in protest of Al Jazeera’s “biased coverage” in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood jihadist organization.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:21 PM

    You can take the mask of now Before you burn in hell you sc**bag

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:45 PM

    If this is in fact him, Id say he is feeling a little nervous now, butcher or no butcher. You are going to die soon, enjoy it while it lasts big man.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 4:43 PM

    No doubt when caught,he will seek the protection of the country on his passport ie Britain and the arsehole do gooders will queue up to fight for his human rights.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 8:48 PM

    I doubt any forces sent in on the ground (if ever) to ‘catch’ JJ will have the messy business of dealing with his political or human rights first and foremost on their minds, and just how they deal with him as a prisoner. The PC brigade might have their own ideas on that circumstance. Good luck to them and their cotton wool heads on that one. I somehow doubt we will ever have to deal with that outcome of his rights as a captive. If you live by the sword, you die by the sword. I think he’d been even happy with that outcome.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 6:02 PM

    Load his entire family on a plane n drop them in the desert. Wouldn’t even bother landing either.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:38 PM

    ““Jihadi John”, named after Beatle John Lennon due to his British accent”

    “British accent”? You’d think Irish people would be the first to know that such an accent doesn’t exist. Scottish people are British, do they sound anything like Jihadi John?

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    Feb 27th 2015, 12:33 AM

    We would have

    Pakki paddy :D

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    Feb 26th 2015, 7:03 PM

    Did his wife squeel to MI5 on him? Well c’mon, what 9 year old girl does’nt get stroppy when she can’t have another packet of Rolo?

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:05 PM

    What happened to your regular English joe .they have foriegn names now

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    Feb 26th 2015, 3:43 PM

    Terrorists such as ISIS and the IRA behave in similar manner. Such fanatics blindly follow the orders of their bloodthirsty masters. They are conditioned to act without engaging in any independent analysis. Their supporters are equally brain dead.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 9:07 PM

    The army’s of old imperial Britain operate in a similar way to ISIS. They blindly followed the orders of their bloodthirsty masters and their supporters were equally as stupid.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 10:05 PM

    As opposed to your loyalist heroes who preyed indiscriminately alongside their handling masters and flegged at the drop of a bowler hat!!

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    Feb 26th 2015, 9:20 PM

    how come no pictures of him yet without his hood?

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    Feb 26th 2015, 5:14 PM

    Can’t be him. Everyone knows only desperate, unemployed peasants with no future become terrorists. Because they’re oppressed.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:42 PM

    On the next episode of Dog the Bounty Hunter…

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    Feb 26th 2015, 7:30 PM

    Dont really care his real name has been revealed. Never even mentioned his alias in sentence. Always started convo with “You know that wa#ker who speaks for isis..” suppose only now he’s got a missile with his real name engraved on the tip. Still he’ll always be just a wa#ker to me..

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    Feb 26th 2015, 1:50 PM

    It’s John Emwazi

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:06 PM

    Where do ISIS really come from ??
    U.S. General: “We Helped Build ISIS” – Islamic State Obtained Weapons from U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya -
    During an appearance on Fox News, General Thomas McInerney acknowledged that the United States “helped build ISIS” as a result of the group obtaining weapons from the Benghazi consulate in Libya which was attacked by jihadists in September 2012. Asked what he thought of the idea of arming so-called “moderate” Syrian rebels after FSA militants kidnapped UN peacekeepers in the Golan Heights, McInerney said the policy had been a failure. “We backed I believe in some cases, some of the wrong people and not in the right part of the Free Syrian Army and that’s a little confusing to people, so I’ve always maintained….that we were backing the wrong types.” – See more at: http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-general-we-helped-build-isis-islamic-state-obtained-weapons-from-u-s-consulate-in-benghazi-libya/5399141#sthash.sxBuyhYm.dpuf
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-general-we-helped-build-isis-islamic-state-obtained-weapons-from-u-s-consulate-in-benghazi-libya/5399141

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    Feb 26th 2015, 2:07 PM
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    Feb 26th 2015, 4:14 PM

    Спасибо товарищу патент за вашу неизменную верность Родине. Работа в РТ ждет выхода на пенсию .
    Владимир П
    ФСБ
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    Feb 26th 2015, 8:34 PM

    We get that the USA has armed militants all over the world and meddled in foreign affairs they should never have went near, started wars and invasions they had no right to. But you aren’t doing youself any favours citing Global Research as a source to back you arguments and opinions up. You really need to dig a little deeper than just scratching the surface of the global media machine or whatever pops up on Google when you search for ‘conspiracies’ and ‘those nasty zionists in America.’

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    Mute Oisin Gilmore
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    Feb 26th 2015, 10:49 PM

    May he die a slow and painful death. Human filth.

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    Feb 26th 2015, 9:38 PM

    Ah Jeez, he’s only a lovely lad, a pure dote. Never smoked, did’nt drink & made all his own dresses!

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    Feb 26th 2015, 9:20 PM

    Well, what are ye waiting for, horse a bit of whip ass jihad into that boy ASAP.

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    Feb 27th 2015, 6:51 AM

    That’s Top Gear bandjaxed again.

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    Feb 27th 2015, 1:27 AM

    Good

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