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Explainer: Would Ireland be required to have a referendum before joining Nato?

The Taoiseach has said a referendum wouldn’t be required – constitutional law experts disagree.

THE INVASION OF Ukraine by Russia and subsequent calls for international leaders to step in and assist has sparked a now months-long debate about Ireland’s neutrality.

The country’s top politicians have repeatedly stated that while Ireland is not ‘politically neutral’ in relation to the war in Ukraine, it remains militarily neutral. And they have stated there is no intention to seek membership of the Nato military alliance. 

However yesterday the Taoiseach caused a stir among constitutional law experts when he stated that the government, if it did decide joining Nato was in the country’s best interests, would not have to put the issue to a vote in a referendum. 

Speaking to reporters in Strasbourg, Micheál Martin said Ireland would need a referendum to join a European Union defence pact if one was declared because there are provisions in the Constitution that would demand it.

However he said: “We don’t need a referendum to join Nato. That’s a policy decision of government.”

A number of constitutional law experts have weighed in, stating that one particular Supreme Court ruling makes it clear the government would need to have a referendum unless it wanted to face court challenges. Here’s what they told The Journal:

First of all, what is Nato?

Nato is a defence alliance, with a primary goal to defend its member states. It has both political and military infrastructures in place to help it implement that. 

The legal treaty on which Nato is based is the North Atlantic Treaty of 1949. Article 5 of this treaty states that if one Nato member state is attacked, all Nato member states will provide assistance and come to their defence.

Why would Ireland’s membership of Nato need to go to a referendum?

Dr David Kenny, associate professor at the Trinity College School of Law, said the law on this point “is fairly clear”. 

“The courts haven’t ruled directly on this point but based on the current case law we have it would be a significant departure from one of the most significant Supreme Court judgements in Irish constitutional law to join Nato without a referendum,” he told The Journal.

He cited a 1987 Supreme Court case, Crotty v an Taoiseach, which centred on the government’s attempt to ratify the Single European Act with an ordinary act of parliament. 

“There was a possibility of joint foreign policy efforts under amendments to EU treaties. The courts said that in potentially giving up sovereignty over foreign policy decision-making the government had crossed a constitutional line,” he explained.

The court in that particular case said the State could not sign up to an arrangement that could result in a loss of its power to say ‘no’ – a power of veto essentially – to these kinds of policies. 

“Then it comes down to what exactly it means to sign up to Nato,” Kenny said. “I am not an expert in Nato, but my understanding from reading around it suggested to me that at the heart of Nato is a series of defence commitments that do require collective action without individual states consenting to those actions.”

Could the Taoiseach be right?

Constitutional law is by no means cut-and-dried, Dr Eoin Daly, lecturer in the School of Law at NUI Galway told The Journal, and there was a case after the Crotty ruling that may have muddied the waters. 

That case was taken by independent TD Thomas Pringle against the Irish government in 2012 and related to the European Stability Mechanism. Although this mechamism was about financial expenditure on a European level and not about foreign policy, it is still relevant in the debate.

Dr Daly said now Chief Justice Donal O’Donnell, who was on the Supreme Court panel, “pulled back and tried to temper what the earlier judges had said in Crotty”.

“In Crotty, they said the State could be forced into a position against its will by the votes of other states and was giving away its right to formulate foreign policy,” he explained.

“Justice O’Donnell said they didn’t really mean it like that, in that absolute black-and-white way, they meant it in the context of that particular treaty. 

He said it was not practical to say that a State couldn’t be involved in international bodies where they might be outvoted – that has to happen – but it did mean that the State can’t put itself into a position where it was subordinating itself to others. So his view was that it was more about avoiding subordination than losing the right to say ‘no’ over something that may be mundane.

Daly said Justice O’Donnell in his opinion also specifically mentioned military alliances and entering into arrangements to pool powers with others. 

“That would seem to allude to something like Nato membership,” he said. But that is an obiter dictum – a by-the-way remark that doesn’t set a precedent and is not salient to the case.”

Although this remark did not set a precedent, it potentially does give an indication of one Supreme Court judge’s view on the matter if the government was brought to court over a Nato membership move in the future.

“We tend to talk about these things as if there is a right or wrong answer but it depends on what a court decides, it comes down to a majority. It’s possible to argue a case both ways,” he said.

Dr Daly said he was “surprised” at the Taoiseach’s remarks because the government has, in the past, taken a more cautious approach to these types of issues. 

“Whatever about the legal niceties of it, I have a feeling it wouldn’t be politically popular to effect huge historical change without a referendum, there’s an expectation that the public will get a say on something as important as that.”

The Journal asked the Taoiseach’s office for further clarification on his comments – and the legal basis of his view – but did not receive a response by time of publication.

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    Mar 12th 2025, 3:26 PM

    They will go up regardless now thats its been talked about

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    Mar 12th 2025, 4:02 PM

    @bruce banner: i was just thinking the same…..its the next big excuse to be used…… It will make a change from everything costing 50%more because of Brexit and the war in Ukraine excuse

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    Mar 14th 2025, 7:18 PM

    @bruce banner: Exactly. All companies need id s whiff of an excuse and they jack up the price to twice what any increase would be. It was already shown in a large study in America that 50% of all price increases during the covid affected inflationary period were just pure profiteering.

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    Mar 12th 2025, 3:30 PM

    Another golden opportunity to fleece us

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    Mar 12th 2025, 3:32 PM

    @Ross McAndrew: or an opportunity to find the Golden Fleece

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    Mar 12th 2025, 4:39 PM

    @Ross McAndrew:
    Don’t allow anyone to fleece you
    All you have to do don’t purchase
    very simple but everyone must do it
    You will have no impact if just a few people do it

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    Mar 12th 2025, 4:57 PM

    @Donal: that’s true, good advice too :)

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    Mar 12th 2025, 4:11 PM

    If this puts an extra €5 on Jack Daniel’s,it will now make it €24.99 a bottle. Do ya know what,I don’t care. I’m still gonna buy it,and party like it’s €19.99

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    Mar 12th 2025, 4:16 PM

    @Larry Betts: excellent

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    Mar 12th 2025, 3:54 PM

    We criminally pay more for everything in Ireland than the rest of the eu . Insurance. / energy / mortgage … you name it , we pay more for everything.
    The Irish government NEVER address this imbalance? Why ?

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    Mar 13th 2025, 8:16 PM

    @BL Music: because they’re the cause/beneficiary of it.

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    Mar 12th 2025, 3:51 PM

    Let the gouging begin!

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    Mar 12th 2025, 3:30 PM

    “The EU has threatened before to place 50% tires on American whiskey,” I wonder if this is the cause of inflation if they continue to pump up the prices…..

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    Mar 12th 2025, 5:46 PM

    @Larry Betts: wrong thread

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    Mar 12th 2025, 3:50 PM

    The world is a con and an illusion. Why they think this is the best system for the people who vote for them to represent us makes no sense.

    When they could put a system in place that still lines their pockets but at the same time makes our everyday lives better.

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    Mar 12th 2025, 4:55 PM

    Just when I thought that the EU had run out of ways to screw businesses and lair on more extra costs, they come out with this nonsense. You don’t put out a fire by adding more gasoline to it. By doing reciprocal tariffs, all they are doing is feeding into Trump’s narrative that they are engaging in unfair trading practices and that his tariff increases are justified. The EU already slaps a 10% tariff on cars, a 50% tariff on dairy products, a 20% tariff on cereal grains, a 25% tariff on alcoholic beverages and a 25% tariff on steel + aluminium among other American products. The EU should be looking to get Trump to the negotiating table to discuss a reduction in tariffs, not provoking him further. This is one of the things that I hate about the EU. They are economically illiterate.

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    Mar 13th 2025, 5:35 AM

    @William Jennings: Whats the avg weighted EU tariff William? What’s the US’s? I’ll tell you. It’s 1.6% for the EU and 1.61% for the US as per World Bank. As I have explained to you before, the EU imposes a tariff of 10% on imported cars to protects its manufacturers as cars are the big selling vehicles in the EU. The US on the other hand is 2.5% but cars are not big sellers in the US. It’s mainly pick ups/4x4s/SUVs. The US imposes a 25% tariff on these. So I’m sure you agree 25% is larger than 10% therefore it’s the US that is screwing others over, right? And I’m sure in any negotiations Trump would lower this tariff right? No he wouldn’t because he wants to protect American manufacturers.

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    Mar 12th 2025, 4:41 PM

    Everything is priced to they think society is prepared to pay. If it’s overpriced it doesn’t sell.

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    Mar 12th 2025, 7:33 PM

    We need government price controls.The ‘coalition’ are clueless and don’t give a damn about the mess they have and continue to make of our once proud nation. They have put housing out of the reach of our young( the ones that are still here!).Our ‘normal’ working population is dwindling….expect pension age to be increased to 75 shortly. How come one can purchase a perfectly habitable house in the UK for c.€150,00. In France, Spain, you can buy a house with a pool for similar money but yet in Ireland you are expected to pay the same for a rusty galvanised walls falling down cattle shed that cost even more money to dismantle it before you start the rebuild! The so called Government grants are only being added on to over inflate the buying price. Young people haven’t got a chance.

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    How to achieve net zero in a subversive way.

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    Mar 12th 2025, 8:49 PM

    Lower taxes on gastronomy and locally produced alcohol!

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    Mar 12th 2025, 4:51 PM

    So long as the price of condoms doesn’t rise(!!), I’ll be fine.

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    Mar 12th 2025, 5:28 PM

    @Harry Callahan: If it doesn’t rise, use Viagara. If nothing else,it’ll stop you rolling out of bed in the middle of the night.

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