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A TEXAS GROUP that helps women pay for abortions has halted its work while it evaluates its legal risk under a strict state ban on termination.
In Mississippi, the state’s only abortion clinic continues to see patients while awaiting a 10-day notice that will trigger a ban.
Elected officials across the US have vowed to take action to protect women’s access to reproductive health care, while those against abortion promised to take the fight to new arenas.
Days after the Supreme Court’s landmark ruling overturning Roe v Wade ended the constitutional right to abortion in America, emotional protests and prayer vigils turned to resolve as several states enacted bans and both supporters and opponents of abortion rights mapped out their next move.
In Texas, Cathy Torres of the Frontera Fund, a group that helps pay for abortions, said there is a lot of fear and confusion in the Rio Grande Valley near the US-Mexico border, where many people are in the country illegally.
That includes how the state’s abortion law, which bans the procedure from conception, will be enforced. Under the law, people who help patients get abortions can be fined and doctors who perform them could face life in prison.
Torres said: “We are a fund led by people of colour, who will be criminalised first. We just really need to keep that in mind and understand the risk.”
She said abortion funds like hers that have paused operations hope to find a way to safely restart their work.
Travel out of state
Tyler Harden, Mississippi director for Planned Parenthood Southeast, said she spent Friday and yesterday making sure people with impending appointments at the state’s only abortion clinic know they do not have to cancel them right away.
Abortions can still take place until 10 days after the state attorney general publishes a required administrative notice.
Mississippi will ban the procedure except for pregnancies that endanger the woman’s life or those caused by rape reported to law enforcement.
The Republican speaker of the Mississippi House, Philip Gunn, said during a news conference on Friday that he would oppose adding an exception for incest. “I believe that life begins at conception,” he said.
Harden said she has been providing information about funds that help people travel out of state to have abortions.
Many in Mississippi were already doing so even before the ruling, but that will become more difficult now that abortions have ended in neighbouring states like Alabama.
Florida is now the nearest “safe haven” state, but Harden warned “that may not be the case for too much longer”.
‘New modern menace’
At the National Right to Life convention in Atlanta, a leader within the anti-abortion group warned attendees yesterday that the Supreme Court’s decision ushers in “a time of great possibility and a time of great danger”.
Randall O’Bannon, the organisation’s director of education and research, encouraged activists to celebrate their victories but stay focused and continue working on the issue.
Specifically, he called out medication taken to induce abortion.
He said: “With Roe headed for the dustbin of history, and states gaining the power to limit abortions, this is where the battle is going to be played out over the next several years.
“The new modern menace is a chemical or medical abortion with pills ordered online and mailed directly to a woman’s home.”
Protests against banning abortion broke out for a second day in cities across the country, from Los Angeles to Oklahoma City to Jackson, Mississippi.
In the LA demonstration, one of several in California, hundreds of people marched carrying signs with slogans like “my body, my choice” and “abort the court”.
Turnout was smaller in Oklahoma City, where about 15 protesters rallied outside the Capitol. Oklahoma is one of 11 states where there are no providers offering abortions, and it passed the nation’s strictest abortion law in May.
‘A wave of emotions’
Marie Adams, 45, who has had two abortions for ectopic pregnancies, called the issue “very personal to me”.
She added: “I have gone through a wave of emotions in the last 24 hours. It’s upsetting, it’s angry, it’s hard to put together everything I’m feeling right now.
“Half the population of the United States just lost a fundamental right. We need to speak up and speak loud.”
Callie Pruett, who volunteered to escort patients into West Virginia’s only abortion clinic before it stopped offering the procedure after Friday’s ruling, said she now plans to work in voter registration in the hope of electing officials who support abortion rights.
Pruett, executive director of Appalachians for Appalachia, added that her organisation will apply for grants to help patients get access to abortion care, including out of state.
“We have to create networks of people who are willing to drive people to Maryland or to DC,” she said.
“That kind of local action requires organisation at a level that we have not seen in nearly 50 years.”
The Supreme Court’s ruling is likely to lead to abortion bans in roughly half the states.
Since the decision, clinics have already stopped performing abortions in Arizona, Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri, South Dakota, West Virginia and Wisconsin.
Women considering abortions had already been dealing with the near-complete ban in Oklahoma and a prohibition after roughly six weeks in Texas.
In Ohio, a ban on most abortions from the first detectable foetal heartbeat became law when a federal judge dissolved an injunction that had kept the measure on hold for nearly three years.
But in Minnesota, where abortion remains legal, governor Tim Walz signed an executive order shielding people seeking or providing terminals in his state from facing legal consequences in other states.
He has also vowed to reject requests to extradite anyone accused of committing acts related to reproductive health care that are not criminal offences in Minnesota.
“My office has been and will continue to be a firewall against legislation that would reverse reproductive freedom,” he said.
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All he asked for was that these high World Bank figures be looked into, he quoted a number of countries and the highest figure of funds indicated by the World Bank data showed €3.5bn being sent to Nigeria… The figures of broken down per head of population were of concern and warranted investigation… Anytime something like this happens questions like this need to be asked or have people from certain countries being that of a certain race become immune from scrutiny?
@Mazza86: thats not all he asked for. He insinuated that there was criminality going on. The guy didn’t even use accurate figures for Christ sake!!!
@Ricky Spanish: I have been to Kenya twice: the Kenyans told us that when a plane from Nigeria comes in, the are fully on their guard as they believe that Nigerians have a different attitude to criminality to them. Does that make the Kenyan’s racist or just careful?
@Carol Cunningham: On holiday – get a grip – what side if Kenya did you see. Now you think you are an authority
@Ricky Spanish: Get a grip… He was going by the World Bank data which showed extreme sums of money per head of population that was alarming and warranted investigation… He insinuated nothing and only asked for the figures be looked into and all the Revenue obligations were met as applies to us all no matter where you’re from or what race you are…
@Mazza86: are you so set in your views that you didn’t bother reading the article?
@Mazza86: going by the world bank figures which were estimates supplied by nigeria and didn’t bother to note more reliable figures supplied by the cso
@Mazza86: Except it is not data…it is at best a. guestimate
@Conoroconnor: I did indeed and after you strip all the controversy back the man just asked a question as it his duty… Big deal made out of nothing by speech fascists
@Darren Byrne: And on what basis are the figures by the CSO more reliable than those from the Nigerian government? That remark in itself is provocative by your own standard… that said, I would agree that the Nigerian estimates would not be entirely reliable but I would also say the same about the CSO figures as they are based on an estimate of disposable income taken from revenue data on “declared” income… I’ve never heard of money launderers declaring I’ll gotten income
@Dec Quinlan: In the same way as the CSO figures are when you strip them back
@Carol Cunningham: I got the same feedback from Ethiopians – they unprompted told us they just don’t like them. But hey that could be just unlike-ability.
@Mazza86: So not data then.
@Darren Byrne:
CSO figures are reliable , my BOLIX
@Carol Cunningham: pants on fire
@Ricky Spanish: so world bank figures are unreliable but figures from our government agencies, who can’t control the costs on the children’s hospital, are to be taken as read??
@Mazza86: Right on!!
@Mazza86: ” have people from certain countries being that of a certain race become immune from scrutiny?”. What race would that be? As far as I know, Nigeria is on the same planet as Ireland, and its inhabitants belong to the human race.
@Mazza86: What race are you, Mazza?
@Ricky Spanish: Criminality among Nigerians?NEVER!!
@Hugh Davison: Caucasian
If he said this about Polish people or English people, would the racist card be raised??
@Carol Cunningham: but it wasn’t. Any comments on what actually happend?
@Carol Cunningham: thats the thing, he didn’t and likely wouldn’t.
@Carol Cunningham: that’s kinda the point. it would’ve suited his point more if he chose Polish people. But he didn’t. So the question is why did he focus on Nigeria with figures that we now know that Grealish knew was false.
@Cormac Ó Braonáin: if fairness, he did choose Lithuanians
@Carol Cunningham: And what really makes me laugh a country person pointing the finger about dodging tax…….from the people who are masters at it lol
@Peter Hughes: elaborate please
CSO figures are based on an estimate of disposable income, taken from revenue figures of legally earned money. The remittance amount from these figures are then an estimate of an estimate on amounts being sent abroad! I don’t trust either source on their figures, but a question of how much illegally earned monies are leaving the country is of great importance.
@Declan Edward: if they new they were illegally earned monies the cab could seize them
@Darren Byrne: but it’s impossible to see from the way that they estimate the data. Surely in this digital age it shouldn’t be too hard to collect this data?
@Declan Edward: The money can be routed through many different banks on its way to the final one. Very hard to track. It’s one of the reasons the EU introduced SEPA
@Darren Byrne: didn’t even think of that, fair play. I do think that direct money payments should still be accounted for, even through money transfer apps and Western Union.
@Declan Edward: as we all know the banking sector for years has done their best to hide what money is going where and who it belongs to, think Switzerland and Singapore. Now with electronic transfers governments have finally caught up with the idea of tracking via the digital trail, far easier. Hence the rise in crypto currencies
@Darren Byrne: “if they new they were illegally earned monies the cab could seize them” Rather hard when GNIB and INIS haven’t a scooby doo as to who and how many are legal. Quite easy to hold other EU passports, whether real or fake. What an illegal immigrant earns is small fish for CAB and you’d hope and expect that they would be dealing with bigger things . Could start with white collar crime
Also, sick of the racist card being used so often, it just devalues the term. We must be careful what we say about people of colour but you can say what you like about white/English/other.
@Carol Cunningham: why do you think this guy keeps mouthing off about Africans so??? Genuine question.
@Ricky Spanish: Maybe he thinks it is an issue. Rather than dismissing the comments he makes, maybe they should be properly investigated and dismissed only if they are found to be untrue. They should not be dismissed as a knee jerk reaction.
@Carol Cunningham: Firstly he picks on travellers, now Nigerians
@Grainnewhale: when did he pick on travellers??
@Carol Cunningham: thanks Gemma, that’s your 10th comment, we know, now go put your hood on.
@Ricky Spanish: Because of their involvement in people trafficking….and the poor victims have to repay on average of E30,000 to the criminals who plotted their way here… I predict very soon the word “racist” will be replaced by” trafficker”… as some of those crying racist, ..are using that card to cover up their aiding and abetting with traffickers…
Stating fact that the majority of scams originate from Nigeria, which is widely known. So it doesn’t surprise me at all.
@Roger Camp: yeah I think Ireland has invested in gold mines, probably get that 1000% return soon, just need a bit more equipment, please send another couple of billion.
@Roger Camp: well at this stage if you fall for them you deserved to be scammed!
@Roger Camp: So your an expert on scam statistics then.
I dont understand why the racist card is being thrown! He questioned a figure used by the WORLD BANK. Even if it’s slightly wrong its alot of money. The CSO are only taking legitimate earnings into account. Now I dont think anyone is saying all the Nigerians here are involved in crime, he is asking is there anything in place to investigate where money that is being transferred has come from. And that applies across all nationalities living in ireland..
I am a Nigerian prince and I have just inherited €3.54 billion. It is, however, locked in escrow. I need one of you kind people to send me your bank details to unlock it, and I will share 25% with you.
@Steve O’Farrell: I’d say grealish’s figures refer to the amount of money foolish Irish people hand over to Nigerian princes in the hope of getting a better return
@Steve O’Farrell: hahaha correct. Horrible people
Incredibly, this bovine ignorance has been warmly received by many readers here. The chap should issue a full apology at a minimum.
@Clifford Brennan: For telling the truth: really??
@Carol Cunningham: What “truth” are you referring to Carol?
@Clifford Brennan: why for asking a question?
@Carol Cunningham: No, for skewing it.
@Carol Cunningham: you’re commenting on an article where they’ve debunked his comments as utter BS…
@Kian David Griffin: they apparently debunked the figures based on CSO numbers which are based on revenue numbers.
I doubt the Nigerian numbers are correct but the CSOs definitely aren’t if they’re based on declared income.
The Journal got the answer they wanted as usual
@Kian David Griffin: Did you read the article Kian? I cannot see how they can disclaim this based on the info they presented here. Say its unreliable sure. But say its definitively incorrect? with their reason being the figures the Nigerians provide are unreliable? Without any alternative figures for the money being sent to Nigeria? This is such biased nonsense.
@Carol Cunningham: did you read this fact check? He wasn’t telling the truth.
Regardless of whether it’s wrong or right. The fact that the second anyone questions anything in this country you’re labelled a racist. He stood up, quoted figure provided by a reputable source and the first thing the Leo asked was “where are you going with this”. Our country is slowly turning into a non democracy, we are no longer question direct provision centres or remittance without being throttled with the words racist. The media have jumped down the throats of those who defended Grealish. The figures are still extremely high.
@Nurse on call: the figures are lies which he knew in advance but he still chose to bring up this total non issue for malicious reasons. your hysterical reply about non democracy is a fantasy
Anyone in receipt of social welfare/housing benefits should be blocked sending money outside the state simple as. At least keep your free money in the local economy.
Western Union was fined 1.75 million euros in 2015 by Central Bank for irregularities in their anti money laundering policies.
I expect they have been tightened up by 2019 ?
@Means of escape: so?
@Grainnewhale: up to that point it was clear that they were a medium for money laundering
So …..
@Means of escape: What’s your point – Was it for Nigerians?
Perfectly legitimate question for Grealish to ask and using World Bank figures to support his question. Fair play for raising a valid question as TDs should be able to do.
A fact check from the journal? About as reliable as snopes, “mostly false”.
@Christy Crumlish: their ‘fact check’ is off CSO’s estimates based on revenue. Laughable. So confident in the CSO’s figures because it suits their agenda
I wonder over the last 150 years how much money Irish emigrants returned to the motherland – money that was used to feed, house, clothe and educate relatives at home. He really is a most ignorant individual and it’s an absolute disgrace that he is an elected public representative.
@offtheball: This is money being taken out of the Irish economy, which is a reason to be concerned. But that is not the point, if the figure is correct, it is very very worrying. The World Bank are far more reliable than the CSO for financial information
@Carol Cunningham: and the money the emigrants were sending home likewise came from other countries..UK, Australia, America to name a few and not to talk about the catholic church in Ireland
@offtheball: I have been working abroad for most of my adult working life. Sending money, when I can,to my irish account. Fair play to anyone who can safe money in Ireland, but why not use the rules many countries have- prove you earned it and paid tax on it and then you can send it to the moon if you want. Maybe this happens in Ireland these days?
@Carol Cunningham: Nigerians are far more likely to keep their money in this country here – the Naira is in free fall
@Carol Cunningham: Correction – you cant rely on their figures – I worked on a project where they had farmers filling in forms regarding their crop yields and they couldn’t read or write- now how accurate is that
@offtheball: 3.5 mil for 40,000 people is a big amount of money leaving Ireland to one country. To compare this with the millions of Irish who went to live abroad is crazy.
@Carol Cunningham: did you read the article, the World Bank themselves have said the Nigerian figures are self-declared and corrected based upon a model averaged over multiple countries. Hardly more reliable that CSO figures directly obtained from Revenue
@Vocal Outrage: haha received from Revenue. I think that the whole point Revenue wouldn’t know if the money is undeclared!
@offtheball: no problem if they paid their taxes. That’s the issue being raised
@Carol Cunningham: carol your all over the place
The CSO is one hundred times more accurate then the world bank…they deal exclusively with Irish only figures.Jesus how can you say something so,so wrong
@offtheball: This answer is great… Literally anything that ever happens can be justified by the one response.
“Ahh but sure the Oirish emigrated and sure ya know yourself”.
@Carol Cunningham: So you’re not allowed to do what you like with your own money. Is that it? What is democracy again?
@Joe Johnson: Billion
@joe: read my other comment, that’s exactly the point I made. The CSO’s figures are more reliable for declared monies, as for the undeclared, no figures are reliable
Disgraceful that 3.5 billion has left like that.
I had to laugh at Leo’s response ” look at Holles Street Hosp, to all the nurses and doctors from the Philippines India, and other countries who work hard and send money home….its the way of the world” …..
Now, I’m not disputing these nurses and doctors work hard, cos they do, and do a great job. But, where are the Irish nurses Leo ? Working abroad, that’s where , cos the wages they get here are not enough to live and buy a home with, my daughter being one of them, out of her class that graduated 70%of them left the country, to earn money for a deposit for a home sometime in the future, cant live here and save. Ridiculous.
@Sam Greene: waiting for the callung me a racist comments…
Whilst I believe Grealish was trying to question the amount of monies possibly illegally leaving the country, or at least untracked, the €17 million figure would only reflect that officially tracked as leaving Ireland for Nigeria. That said, such is the wide gap between the figures it is highly unlikely that there would be such a large quantity of money leaving Ireland untracked, in the order of billions in fact. So I’m inclined to think Grealish should have been cognizant as to why the figures were so divergent, particularly as he had the CSO figures already
I dont understand this (after reading the article which I dont think a lot of the commentators here have done!). The factcheckers say the world bank figures are definitively wrong (based on the fact it is an estimate, caculated from the nigerians governments figures for money received from abroad), but use the CSO figures as supporting evidence (another estimate, based on revenues figures for declared income. Which presumably wouldnt include laundered money. Unless its a first time money launderer!) Not saying I necesscarily believe there is an issue. Just the nerdy mathematician in me does not see the logic here! Maybe I have missed something?
@Writeon: they’re rating his claim of 3.4 billion false as there is no accurate figures to back it up. The cso figures are used to high light the differences in estimates to show how difficult it is to get it right. They’re not saying their accurate
@Darren Byrne: I totally get how they could have called it “unproven”. But how can they say definitively false. The only “proof” they present is another estimate, with even bigger caveats!
@Writeon: the figures provided by the Cso are revenue based. Banks track this monies that flow. Revenue haven’t a clue what’s going on. Between western union, cash itself, Revolut cards, PayPal etc there are plenty of missed money. The world bank aren’t talking out their arses.
@Nurse on call: why not all they did was ask nigeria for the figure and they gave an estimate but what that is based on is unknown at this time
We should put a tax on money sent abroad.
@Eamon McGowan: brainless idea
How anyone thought his figures were accurate is beyond me,
No doubt Nigerian’s like so many people from other countrys send money home, hell Irish people go around the world and still do it! During the 1980′s it was extremely common for Irish people to go to the UK for building work and send as much as they could home.
@Barry Somers: Were the figures not the World Bank’s?
@Barry Somers: Wrong Irish people drank a lot of their money
@Michael Maher: Sweeping statement – NOT all many had very successful careers
@Michael Maher: Some Irish people ya big racist
@Damien Mc Padden: no they were estimates supplied to the world bank by nigeria.
Unfortunately the damage is done, as this story gathered so much media coverage in the last 24 hours, with no one even asking the question was it correct. This is a resigning issue for Grealish
@Brendan Barr: hardly his voters like him
@Brendan Barr: Why should he resign?? He asked a question in the Dàil if money leaving the State is all above board.
@Liam Higgins: he quoted a 3,450,000,000 euro figure vs a 17 million actual figure (that he had in his possession). Why not quote both? Unless he wanted to put out a perception that all Nigerians are up to no good.
@Liam Higgins: was your 20€ in a card to your nephew in Oz above board? Would you like your entire financial accounting to be anaylised, sending of money to your chilldren studying abroad etc. This dinosaur just advocated for that! Nothing more nothing less, what you do with your own money!
The Journal and fact check is an oxymoron
@Gisbert Bayertz: it seems odd to read and comment on a site that you have such little faith in
It seems clear that neither the World Bank nor the CSO figures are to be relied upon. One is an estimate by the Nigerian authorities, one by the Irish, and neither is based on any sort of hard data. The CSO figure seems to be just an arbitrary proportion of declared income, and to imply that it is “accurate data” as this article does is absurd.
It seems clear that the Nigerians’ estimate of how many of their people are living and working in this country is much higher than that of the CSO. I wouldn’t be inclined to leap to the conclusion that either is correct.
So we now know his figures were wildly exaggerated by over 3000%. More worryingly we now know that Grealish was given the true figures in October so he knew his figures were false while he was singling out Nigerians. Hopefully there won’t be a rise in discrimination against Nigerians by this absolute numbskull who thinks every Nigerian in Ireland is sending €40k back to Nigeria per annum.
@Cormac Ó Braonáin: that’s the real crux – he knew that the figures were wrong (and relied on the fact that the rest of us didn’t) and yet stood in the national parliament and spouted them. That was done for a reason. Perhaps Deputy Grealish should be asked why he did that.
@Alan McArdle: The figures are correct as per the world bank.
So what are you on about?
A 4 year old child can see that the CSO stats are dodgy looking, they are the same for the last number of years, showing that it is not taken from actual statistics but from computer generated estimations.
@Cormac Ó Braonáin: We know he was given cso figures-possible funds sent abroad estimated from earnings (136mil) & world bank estimates of funds sent abroad (3.54bil) to the same place, so how does the smaller number become so big & criminality was the possibility he questioned… thats all, & fair enough, It’s plausible, given the figures. We also know he should have questioned the figures & he was naive. If discrimination increases then the media that jumped all over it & the TD that stood up and branded “racist” on government record (because of a decision they made of what anothers intentions were) are to blame. Cant a person ask a question and have it answered in a mature way? Had the question been approaced by adults, & not bullying school children, they might have arrived at that revelation pretty fast & I wouldnt be writing this. We wonder why society has such issue with bullying when the answer stares at us condescendingly from the Dáil
@Daimhín De Naois: why didn’t he also state the cso figures and question them. He had an agenda to infer large sums of money were being sent to nigeria and that they were somehow the proceeds of crime
@Liam Kelly: Jaysus Liam it’s not exactly rocket science. it’s not difficult to spot which figures are bogus. We know how many Nigerians are in the country. If the World Bank’s figures are correct then every single Nigerian in Ireland is sending home €40k per annum.
@Cormac Ó Braonáin: the CSO has only taken legitimate earnings into account. If theres any crime gangs sending money to Nigeria then it changes it.
@Darren Byrne: I said that in my comment and no, thats just your decision. What does his intentions matter regardless? The first question is; are there any other countries with the same discrepancy between CSO and WTO figures? I presume not hence he’s asked the question. But, i haven’t checked myself nor seen it noted on any article & considering how important that detail is wouldn’t you say that points to an agenda?? If there are some then id question the figures, like he should have but for now, its the question that needs to be answered.
@Liam Kelly: more dodgy than anyone thinking that every man woman and child who is Nigerian and living here is sending 40k a year home? Come on, it’s ridiculous, and he knew it before he asked.
@Gerard Smith: nobody is thinking that, are you misunderstanding the situation?? It certainly seems so
@Liam Kelly: Liam the World Bank themselves have stated the figures they have collated are highly problematic but you seem absolutely hell bent on believing them
I’ll take the world bank figures over our banks figures any day, as for racism, just a distraction from answering the question
Who cares either way. If they earnt it its their money they can do with ot what they want. If its welfare money, thats a different story of course
Only one trump related article today and a journalistic fact finding investigation into comments made in the dail. You could have just took the lazy option and rolled out opinion pieces from those who spend their days looking to be outraged.
Kudos to you Journal.ie. There may be hope yet
It’s almost as it the World bank use the IMF definition for remittances which can be found in their Balance of Payments manual and because Ireland have a bunch of International banks and their payments clearing functions here, as money gets moved from European banks to Nigerian banks for trade, some get caught in the net and classified as remittances. It’s almost as if all of this information was freely available before Grealish opened his mouth to slander a group without grounds. Idiots who can’t even use Google shouldn’t be TDs
@Ciarán Ó Fallúin: A very patronising and insulting statement, play the ball, not the man
Amateur hour….no doubt it will help Grealish in re-election …his base has similarities to trumps
Especially around oughertard
@David cotter: what an absolutely ignorant comment. Try to do a little bit of research before commenting
@Liam Higgins: did you not see the rednecks outside the hotel…..
Somebody is lying. World Bank or CSO??? Surely the World Bank couldn’t be releasing figures so completely off the mark???
Hes dead jasus right
So, in essence, he dog-whistled and one mangy mutt with a limp showed up at his door.
The king of Nigeria seems to be in a spot of bother, he offered to transfer $3.5 Billion to me if I just transferred €1000 euros to help him to pay for air tickets for him and his daughter to fly home from Switzerland, but he forgot his wallet as the email proves. So when that all comes through. According to the world bank, we should be about even Stevens?
Pity Noel did not ask the question why was Billions of taxpayers money raised through austerity measures enforced by a blueshirt government to repay for the gangsterism of the banks and developers facilitated by F.F
Government of the day has left this country
Remember our grandchildren will be paying for this gangsterism .
Go, Grealish, go! He’s on the warpath now after the savaging he got over the Oughterard incident. He’s trolling the establishment.
Parish pump politics at it absolute worst , backed up by another ignoramus from Kerry
The world bank figures must include money sent by Irish nationals to Nigerian princes, I mean I sent €50k through western union last year, like lots of others did right? Still waiting on my return, oddly enough :-)
Every society in the world has racist elements to it. My Nigerian friends tell me in Nigeria there is racism between the tribes. Marrying to another tribe is a big nono. And who watched hotel Rwanda, where skin colour was the defining issue of the indigenous people. Dose that make rasism anywhere okay… For me no!
Like we have legs for moving about like and sure isn’t that what emigration is. Still, I don’t believe however, that a person should impose on where they go to, what they have came from. I don’t believe that a person should go somewhere, only to be socailise with the people where they came from! Many immigrants who come here embrace here and they and Ireland have benifited, direct provision centers will not allow for integration only imposing segration
@AJ Con: Racism here as well against travellers and romany but does that make it okay
@Grainnewhale: read again.
What a loser. Another do nothing independent, hoping to jump on the Casey bandwagon to keep the gravy train going.
I think the bigger problem is there’s no way to get accurate figures Which means people/organisations can make it up as it suits them What’s that saying lies, damn lies, statistics
Only 1 person (obnoxious Coppinger) called him racist. What’s the big deal? It’s a non story
Damm those emails that are in my spam folder must work
resignation time for grealish oh wait…..this is an irish politician spouting unsubstantiated nonsense.
No winners in this
How much of the money is sent by the church (you know which one) ? We are still an agency for them! They act without regulation also! Diplomatic bag to Rome?
This is very good. But can the Journal please please do a factcheck on vaping rather that the “noteworthy” you propose to find problems? A factcheck to ask: is vaping a safe alternative to smoking? Why did the recent “vaping related” deaths in the united states not occur anywhere else yet vaping is a global phenomenon? What is the Master Tobacco Settlement and why is it relevant to the online anti vaping sentiment coming from California and New York? The Factcheck has proven that you can do the research. Do it for my smoking colleague who refuses to quit because of what he’s reading in the Google click media, “sure it’s as bad as smoking”. We can do better in this country ( they have in the UK).
Wow the wilful stupidity and flat out racism. Trump’s Ireland.
@Mike McGann: What’s up snowflake hit a nerve.
No winners in this.
So you can say and misquote any statistics about people working and paying taxes here but sending some of their disposable income back to their countries of origin, but do not let one person dare speak about Tax exiles shipping billions out of the Island tax free to countries like Malta. That is a no no. And those guys are white and Irish as bedamned. They aren’t possible criminals, they are treated like Royalty.
Round 2 and looking at the thumbs up I think the racists win again.Well done lads you should be proud of yourselves.
Big thanks to Carol you really won the day.
@Lionheart1: Yes and she had the lowdown from a Kenyan taxidriver so it must be true!
it is an impossible situation if i went and sent 1000 pounds to the uk you wouldnt be asked where it came from but there would be a record of the transaction so it should be available .if there is a criminal element maybe the authorities in each country should be able to tell if payments received by these groups originated in ireland the criminal assets bureau managed that with irish gangs so why not with money sent abroad
Wonder one very small irish one very big world bank . Would trust irish one as has carfull not upset anyone
The more you think about it … Noel Grealish et al thinking that c.1%of our GDP per year went to Nigeria each year for 8years and no one noticed until they were now coming to save the day! Haha
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