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Doctors 'struggling to get paid' due to payroll issues in hospital changeover, IMO says

Non-consultant hospital doctors regularly move hospitals and must join a new payroll system each time.

CERTAIN DOCTORS WHO must regularly move hospitals are ‘struggling to get paid’ due to a complicated payroll system, according to the Irish Medical Organisation (IMO).

Non-consultant hospital doctors (NCHDs) must change hospital once or twice a year and face joining a new payroll each time in the absence of a centralised HSE system.

The IMO has said that some NCHDs face difficulties getting paid, are paid on the wrong scale, or do not receive pay for all hours worked. 

Joining a new system means NCHDs are subject to emergency tax each time they join a new hospital, the IMO outlined in a statement.

Speaking on RTÉ Radio One’s Morning Ireland this morning, Chair of the IMO’s NCHD committee Dr John Cannon said that “when they change hospital, even though they remain the employee of the HSE as their main employer, they technically change employer as well at a local level”.

“That means every time they go to a new hospital, even though they’re still working for the HSE, they have to join a new payroll system as all the payroll systems in the HSE are siloed,” Dr Cannon explained.

He said the pay issues cause stress and hardship for doctors, who already face the pressure and cost of moving regularly to a new location in the country.

The HSE indicated it is aware of processing issues with payrolls at a local level and apologised for disruption for staff, saying it hoped problems would be quickly rectified.

In a statement, it said that the health system has almost 5,000 doctors in training across hospitals and other healthcare facilities.

“As NCHDs training positions changed over recently in July, some employees may have moved from one pay location to another. We are aware that this can lead to processing issues at site/local level,” the HSE said.

“Any problems will be quickly rectified locally once raised and we sincerely apologise for the disruption this may cause to any of our staff members who may be affected.

“We regret that this issue continues to persist at NCHD changeover time in some areas.

“The HSE met with NCHD representatives on the Irish Medical Organisation (IMO) last month and continues to engage with the IMO, on a regular basis, with regard to issues of concern to NCHDs. We will continue to work collaboratively to address the concerns identified.”

Dr Cannon told Morning Ireland that apologies “will no longer cut it” and that doctors have “repeatedly asked” for years for the issue to be resolved.

“We have advised them that truly the one way to get rid of this issue is to have a single nationalised payroll system similar to the gardaí, where at the click of a button every junior doctor in the country can be paid on time,” he said.

“It would be unthinkable if a member of the Garda Síochána moved from a station on Kevin Street in Dublin to Letterkenny and just because they moved station, they wouldn’t get paid their salary.

“That’s essentially what’s happening here now, so I think the time for apologies is long past.”

NCHDs, also known as junior doctors, have long spoken out about subpar working conditions that lead to stress and burnout.

In 2021, NCHDs worked a total of 2.8 million recorded overtime hours, according to figures from the HSE.

A survey by the IMO found that 96% of NCHDs have been required to work more than 48 hours a week, 40% have been required to work more than 24 hours in one shift, and many reported routinely not being paid for all the hours they worked.

Other significant problems included a lack of suitable rest breaks and on-call facilities. as well as difficulties availing of study leave and annual leave.

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    Oct 24th 2015, 1:03 PM

    Hailo’s message to Uber:……….. Fc*k Off we don’t wan’t competition.

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    Oct 24th 2015, 1:39 PM

    Hailo are supposed to be in trouble over spending and no investment so uber def spells trouble for them

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    Oct 24th 2015, 12:09 PM

    The journal will literally use any opportunity to mention the gay marriage referendum. Move on.

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    Oct 24th 2015, 12:55 PM

    Gay people can get married now? Gosh, that must annoy certain types of people.

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    Oct 24th 2015, 12:55 PM

    I had not noticed the passing reference to the free taxi service to the polling booths for the same sex marriage equality referendum until you drew it to my attention, RoN.

    Clearly you would have preferred RoN to have had the service restricted to the opponents of same sex civil marriage.

    Thank you for highlighting the Marriage Equality Referendum passed by more than 68% of those who voted.

    This topic deserves another separate article so that RoN can get his full rant on.

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    Oct 24th 2015, 2:03 PM

    When will companies and businesses in all industries cop on that they are not in any way simply entitled to your business? If they are out flanked by someone with an innovative idea, the onus is on them to either catch up or offer more appealing innovative ideas of their own.

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    Oct 24th 2015, 3:30 PM

    In theory yes but it seems that the playing field isn’t level. Essentially they are both providing the same service but uber drivers are not vetted or regulated in any way and their costs are lower, for example insurance. Also, I don’t think uber drivers are taxed.

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    Oct 24th 2015, 12:35 PM

    Harry Potters real?

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    Mute Carmo Vanderval
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    Oct 24th 2015, 12:58 PM

    No, just a fictional character who looks a bit like you.

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    Oct 24th 2015, 1:37 PM

    Taxi service in Atlanta is dreadful, everyone i know uses uber and they rave about its convenience, low cost etc. I personally have only used it once and it was bang on, great idea, well executed.

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    Oct 24th 2015, 3:47 PM

    Uber is incredible

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    Oct 24th 2015, 11:50 PM

    Ireland is not Atlanta.
    We dont need Uber destroying the jobs of licensed,regulated taxi drivers.
    The industry is overcrowded as it is.
    They are a scourge on the face of the earth.
    The authorities have a responsibility to control this form of unbridled capitalism.
    Can we all do part time work as civil servants/teachers/Gardai etc. and put them out of work.?
    Not likely.

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    Oct 24th 2015, 5:42 PM

    I hope that Uber is launched in its full form in Ireland, allowing those with a suitable car and a clean criminal background check to apply.

    I used ubers multiple times in San Diego this summer and the system works brilliantly and is very cost effective too

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    Oct 24th 2015, 4:27 PM

    No Hailo app for windowsphone…but there is an Uber app, so hailo for f**k off

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    Oct 24th 2015, 12:59 PM

    In the U.S. UBER HAS STARTED DOING LOGISTICS NOW, will Hailo start doing the Ambulance service now???

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    Oct 24th 2015, 1:13 PM

    we only have 12 ambulances in Dublin and these are fully stretched at this time of year… if you need to get to a hospital and a DFB ambulance will be another hour, why not get help?

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    Oct 24th 2015, 2:32 PM

    I can see it happening with the TiSA Agreement privatised hospitals and ambulances, Uber is involved with logistics now. So god knows what the future will bring thanks to TTIP and the Trade in Services Agreement.
    Many things are run down in order to change them and the excuse is cost but getting private firms to run things always costs more as the NHS model has shown and the same is starting to happen here now…
    Help is one thing but cost will be another???

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    Oct 25th 2015, 4:35 PM

    Given the wages of ambulance drivers, I am sure the government would love it.!

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