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GARDAÍ HAVE APPOINTED a senior officer to review the 1972 Belturbet car bombing after several new lines of inquiry were discovered.
At 10:28pm on the 28 December, 1972 a car bomb exploded outside Farrelly’s Bar and McGowan’s Drapery on Main Street, Belturbet.
Two children, Patrick Stanley (16) of Clara, Offaly, and Geraldine O’Reilly (15) of Drumacon, Belturbet, Co. Cavan, were killed instantly; eight more people were injured.
A loyalist group had always been suspected of carrying out the bombing. However, nobody has been charged in relation to the crime.
In a statement this morning, gardaí said they have set up a new incident room at Ballyconnell garda station to examine the case.
A spokesperson said: ” Following a review of the investigation, An Garda Síochána has identified a number of lines of inquiry. A Senior Investigating Officer has been appointed to lead the investigation and an incident room has been established at Ballyconnell Garda Station.
“Gardaí are appealing for anyone with information in relation to the Belturbet Bombing on 28th December, 1972 to contact the incident room at Ballyconnell Garda Station 049 9525580, the Garda confidential line Free-phone 1800 666 111 or Crimestoppers 1800 250025.”
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Was at a communion two weeks ago and the local travellers ruined it for most people. Blocked the car park with the limos and filled half the seats in the church that was reserved for families(they refused to move)
The small traveller kids ran around the church screaming all during the service and the priest had to stop mass twice. They are a bloody disgrace. Sick of them.
Their response to everything is “that’s discrimination boss” as evident in that video.
Travelers are the victims, according the liberal media. Remember that.
That is serious Bad Craic P O Leary. I’d have got up and walked out. Hopefully a few others would have followed you. Methinks they wouldn’t and you’d be left to your own while everyone else would yap about it after mass but do nothing.
Nothing I hate more is people taking up seats that were for others. They look like you have 2 heads on you when you ask them to move.
Judging by the thumbs on these comments the sentiment of equality esposed by the majority of the people in the country last Friday has not enlightened the majority of the readers of the journal.
Poor, really?
@Darren Turner
That there is proper racism. You cannot equate any group of people, but let alone an entire ethnic group. This kind of language is what leads to genocides. Totally unacceptable.
Rachel – the fact is that the majority of people have never had one good experience with a traveler.
When it suits chris.
Poor ??? Ha ha ha ha , good one
Ciaran – yes, you have to tolerate criminals and scammers. That is exactly my point.
Always the victims, never their fault
It isn’t racism. They are not a different race to us. No matter how much they claim they are, it is not true.
Poor?!!!!!!
I wonder how many of those people have actually had a conversation with a Traveller under normal circumstances? I wonder how many people have actually had any experience with Travellers personally or are just jumping on the bandwagon?
I’ve been to quite a few communions where there has been travellers present and there has never been a problem. The people on this forum should take a good look at themselves and hope this never happens to them or their family. That priest is a disgrace. Did he even once think about the child in this? Being different isn’t a crime but if you listened to some people it should be a hanging offence. They should be ashamed.
I have had many, many encounters with them in professional situations and socially. The majority of these have ended negatively, not to say there aren’t a few nice ones but my experiences have been mostly negative.
Their child wasn’t part of the communion ceremony. Just because you haven’t had a problem with them at one doesn’t mean no one has nor does it mean this woman wasn’t causing one. You have to wonder why there were travellers let in but she was stopped.
Poor ha don’t make me laugh !!!
Chris- sigh ! Same old apologist nonsense . Here’s the thing , it’s perfectly right to discriminate on the basis of behaviour and unfortunately a significant majority the travelling community behave in a way that is not acceptable by the rest of society . It’s a simple as that .
travellers are not poor….@fake avast
The general comments about travellers are disgraceful. Yes, there are some travellers that are obnoxious and criminals and maybe this woman did or said something that was not caught on camera. But there are also many travellers who are kind, interesting and thoughtful people. Just like every other section of society. But to label the whole traveller community as one thing or another is something ridiculous.
I have had loads of conversations with travellers and even went to school with a few. The problem doesnt lie in there one to one discussions it never did they are very could at talking most of them never shut up. They cause havok in groups unfortunately and never get held accountable like a group of unruly “settled people” would!
Rachel – serious question – have you ever lived near a halting site or where they have camped for a length of time .what had been your experience? And since it seems you have meaningful engagement could please tell us what you think the prevailing attitude amongst travellers is towards homosexuality , inter racial marriage, equality for women particularly in respect of education , violence as a form of dispute resolution , paying tax to pay for vital services (social responsibility in general ) What was the feedback you got when you were canvassing for the TA vote in the halting sites ? Serious questions
@rachael..so are homeless people a race too?
Tensing – It is perfectly ok to discriminate on the basis of behavior. I agree with that. I still do not agree that it is acceptable to judge one individual based on the perceived behavior of others.
I actually cannot believe that so many people hold the same view as you. It is worrying.
I could say that all of the commenters on the Journal are small minded racists but that would be a generalization and not true.
@Paddy, I’d be willing to guess that most people who have a bad opinion of travellers, have had multiple bad experience with them. I was once mugged by travellers and had my car set on fire by them. The majority of my encounters with the community are negative. I’ve been blocked in my estate because of how they sometimes park here. I’ve often felt intimidated by their roving gangs in the estate. Once had a traveller selling drugs from the house next door. I could list countless instances of anti-social behaviour, what I would consider animal cruelty and criminal behaviour. I’d report them but some of us have to actually live next door to them and don’t have the liberty of high horses in the suburbs..
Those are just my PERSONAL experiences. I’ve heard much the same from most people around here. It’s not racism, because quite simply if they were to settle and stop acting the maggots, I’d have no problem with them. Their smart people, their very entrepreneurial which one can only admire, but most of the time the work they do is either criminal or all cash only, so they never pay back into the big pot from which they get oh so much. Their culture discourages education, it encourages exactly the kind of bad behaviour most people complain about. How can anyone defend that???
What disgusting hypocrites we are. Having spent the whole weekend congratulating ourselves for being so progressive and embracing the rights of a minority in society, we then turn around and make racist remarks about a far more marginalised section of society. No wonder travellers have such distrust of the settled community.
Have seen dresses far shorter at weddings without a word from anyone. The mask of the liberal racists slips.
Was thinking the same thing Chris. I think we can all agree we’ve probably had a less than favorable experience when it comes to travelers.
But at the end of the day, it’s a church, as far as I was concerned everyone and anyone is supposed to be welcome in a church and to be fair her dress wasn’t that short, not my style at all but I have seen shorter!
Travelers do bring an awful lot of discrimination to their doors themselves but for once I think this seems like it was uncalled for.
It’s a church!
I’m no big fan of the travelling community and have had many bad experiences with members of the travelling community, but some of the comments here are spewing a shocking hatred towards a stereotyped ethnic group. We should all take stock and consider where such blanket discrimination leads.
People on the opposite side labelling travellers as poverty-stricken victims aren’t helping either. There are rich and poor members of the travelling community – similar to the rest of society. There is an element of disadvantage but there is also an element of self-inflicted disadvantage. Basically, generalisations aren’t helping anybody.
So when they rob you, you just stand aside and say I am doing this out of tolerance
Cathal, I agree that there are many travellers that engage in criminal activity and don’t pay taxes. I’m not trying to deny that. My issue is with the sweeping statements that are being made. Surely each person should be judged personally rather than collectively.
The behaviour you describe that occurs on your doorstep is awful and not a healthy environment to live in but they do not represent every other traveller family in the country.
you never hear of the tax man or social welfare checking to see where there money comes from or pay taxes on it
Ruth , it’s disrespectful , in another video you can see her black underwear through the dress , which was see through by the way .
Chris -have you ever asked yourself why in country that is the first in the world to legalise gay marriage by popular vote are we so “intolerant” of travellers in general – do you believe it’s just because they are travellers or it is something else . I can honestly say for me at least it’s experience , I wish it weren’t true but just about every experience I have had has been negative from being robbed to just experiencing absolute lack of basic manners and adherence to social conventions . What can I say , it’s sad but it is the experience of so many people and as per my question to Rachel maybe travellers should be more questioning of their own responsibilities to society rather than hiding behind emotive buzz words thrown around by pavee point
@Paddy. I haven’t commented on this case. In truth I don’t give a monkey’s about the story. I do get bloody annoyed when people, who no doubt live far away from these communities, take to their high horse to finger wag at others.
I just want them in houses, paying their dues and taking responsibility for their actions like everyone else in this country. That is all, and treating them like perpetual victims only makes it easier for them to demand mansions to frustrate local councils and housing authorities who try to accommodate them.
Our local school had this last year, traveller student never turned up to any of the communion preperation events and the priest warned the parents loads of times that the girl needed to attend the events to make her communion, finally the priest told the parents she would not be allowed to make it and the mother of the child basically told the priest if he did not let her make it ( the parents ) would turn up on the day and ruin the event for everyone else.
Someone DM me when Rachel comes back to answer Tamsing’s questions he put to her?
I’d love to know those answer myself
Cathal, I read a comment you wrote (down the page a bit) and you are probably the only one on here that I completely agree with. Respect and responsibility needs to go both ways.
Other parishioners had complained to the priest about their behaviour and dress. The priest had talked to them about it but they turned up the next time continuing in their ways. A video of a traveller shouting abuse and throwing out discriminatory accusations at a priest who is showing restraint and coolness while not engaging them in a shouting match before doing a first communion clearly doesn’t tell the full story. Other travellers were let into the service and it wasn’t even the group in question child’s first communion. Shame upon them for not having any respect and using the discrimination card and misleading everyone.
Shame on the Journal for giving this idiot the attention she so badly craves.
Other travellers were let in (hence no traveller discrimination) but she wasn’t cos she behaved appallingly.
An absolute nothing story and a stain on the fine town of ennistymon. Move on.
I think the fact that anyone was turned away from a church for wearing that is relatively newsworthy as it looks pretty benign to me. I honestly can’t see any other reason why she wouldn’t have been let in bar prejudice.
@Chris, you’d be a fine horse for a Sulky race with those blinkers on you.
Is the dress blue and black or white and gold?
Well played sir
Forget about the dress,i wanna know how they can afford limos,jeeps and new pick up trucks whilst on the dole
Just guessing here but I’d say it helps to have no mortgage, no rent, no electric bill, no house insurance, fewer possessions (no room for much furniture, hundreds of DVDs/CDs, etc), no point having broadband, can’t imagine there’s great uptake of health insurance (might be wrong on that).
Or we could just assume they’re all crooked.
Race as a biological concept doesn’t really exist, but we still talk about racism because there are still folks who generalise about “them” whoever “they” are. You don’t call travellers a race, and you’re right about that. But you are talking about “them” as if they’re all the same. You can call that whatever kind of -ism you feel fits.
They are an ethnic group and as such “The courts have said that Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are protected against race discrimination because they’re ethnic groups under the Equality Act.”
Many of the comments here constitute race discrimination.
They are nomads that came to Ireland in the 1500′s. Do you not notice how different they look and how you could spot one a mile away?
My definition of a race was something I used to lose my bollix on every Saturday in the bookies
And worse, are getting hundreds of up votes. Days ago we voted for equality and we had every right to feel good about ourselves. But it’s Monday so I guess we’re back to business as usual.
That makes me a racist so but so what
I’ve worked with so many different minorities and immigrants in this country,
But yet I’ve never worked with someone from the traveling community,I don’t know anyone who has.but yet we have friends and colleagues from other nations around the world,what does that say about our indigenous minority
They’re not a bloody race.
That they’re insular and either unwilling or unable to integrate with Irish society. That’s about it.
Amazing how the poor marginalised travellers never post videos of them wrecking establishments that have allowed them in for weddings etc, All the do gooders will be up in arms again defending those that want everything their own way
Nonsence. Would you post a video of yourself committing a public order offense like say pissing against a car after a night out? No, but would you post a video of a crime being commited against you? I bet you would. Everyone would so stop it. Plenty of non travellers wreck establishments too and public property and private property so cop on. You should be glad to have ‘do gooders’ because they would defend you as much as anyone else.
Is everyone red thumbing Missy’s comment because its not true or because they don’t like that its true?
I only red thumbed her because of the the way she spelt nonsense. Is that discrimination?
It’s not true. When was the last wedding you went to, where the father of the bride was shot? How about a funeral where the mourners were armed with slash hooks. When was the last time members of the settled community, in a small town in the west of Ireland, abused and violently expelled the owners of a pub so they could drink and smash the place up without interruption. Who was it that was off scamming people across europe with fake Honda motors? Who was it scamming people in Sweden and elsewhere with sh*tty tarmac. These people are up in front of the courts every day of the week, yet they represent less than 1% of the local population here.
I have no problem with the people. People are people, but their way of life is incompatible with a modern society. Their culture is incompatible with what we have built on this islant. They need to be settled, assimilated and made accountable for their actions. I’m positively liberal with my views on the “problem” of travellers. We need to spend money now to get them into houses. Educate their children, make them part of the wider community so they feel responsibility to it and stop running amok.
To pretend that their community is not disproportionately responsible for crime and anti-social behaviour in this country, is naive in the extreme and serves nobody, certainly not wider society.
Ahh the plight of the oppressed indigenous minority of Ireland goes on. Before the red thumbs start, how much of your USC goes in handouts to these people. I can’t afford a new jeep but they have monopolised rural drug dealing without an ounce of regard for the people of Ireland. Good man. Keep them out.
Is that a dress or a blouse.
I see the t-shirt but where is the dress?
Was thinking the same thing Garry. Where is the rest of the thing. Personally, I think she was way overdressed.
You’re on yer own there Liam. The tide wouldn’t take her out.
That’s what she SAYS on the video. Has there been any independent confirmation of what went on? It’s an ad-hominem video but it doesn’t necessarily tell us the full story. But the Internet mob will bay for blood regardless…
You mean an independent adjudicator from Stokes Kennedy Crowley? *nods*
I think it looks like he’s not dignifying the video with an actual response. He’s saying very little because it wouldn’t change anything with the way she’s talking at him.
Also, other travellers were allowed in, so it was hardly discrimination against travellers.
Just because other travellers were allowed in doesn’t mean it’s not discrimination mate.
You’re right, all we see is an uncomfortable looking priest and a very long rant. You’re wrong about the baying for blood, at least for the priest’s blood. Instead we’re going after anyone who dresses or speaks similarly to the lady.
Chris, ‘mate’, she says he discriminated against Travellers. My point is that no he didn’t. He possibly discriminated against her personally. That is a different matter.
I’m sick to death of this discrimination Sht when ye start having more respect then it will be returned. Double parking outside the main entrance of the local shop and not giving a sht that it’s blocking traffic etc. Shouting at nurses in a+ e because wanting to be seen immediately etc
Sounds like most Sunday Mass goers habits there. Parking rules go out the window once it’s mass they are going to. Double park outside the shop on the way home to get the newspaper and chat about the match later. Behaviour that’s definitely not confined any particular segment of Irish society.
Right back atcha, if you want to be respected by Irish Travellers, then maybe giving them more respect and not having such discriminatory views, we might get somewhere. Probably gonna take a generation or two though considering both sides are pretty entrenched and resentful.
I spent the last 6 months on here tearing into the church and it’s lay folk so I’m hardly going to take up for them lightly.
To me this is simple. They have a dress code. It’s their building, their property and their gig and they get to set whatever rules they like. You voluntarily choose to be a member of that religion.
She was refused on the basis of the dress code, not traveler status, as evidenced by the other travelers in attendance. A claim of discrimination only works if they have refused you BECAUSE of your membership of that group. That was not the case here. Abide by their dress code or find another religion. Simple. I like taking my shirt off when it’s very sunny, but when I visit Rome and head into the Vatican City I have to put it back on again, because I’m walking onto their turf so have to abide by their rules.
Maybe they’ve gotten so used to being discriminated against (or claiming it) that they think it’s happening all the time even when sometimes, it’s not.
Ryan , well said .
If a non traveler was wearing a similar dress/clothing and was let in it would be discrimination to pick on her. The dress is marginal enough and I can imagine a situation that if she wasn’t a traveler there would be no issue(in my opinion) . I think both the priest and her went looking for a fight.
God will strike down with great vengance and frury, on those who DO NOT have…….tax and insurance.
Father Ted never did an episode on travellers – did they?
I hear your a racist now Father.
Feckin’ Greeks
Larry Byrne read the article before you pass stupid comments !!!
It’s not the Greeks he’s after,
It’s the Chinese
A lovely bunch of lads !
“My car has tax and insurance fadder, you can check it.”
Lol. That was pretty random thing to say.
It wasn’t random at all. You can’t hear very clearly but the priest makes reference to her car and is looking out at it. Then he takes out his pen and starts to write as if to take down her reg number, insinuating that she probably did not have any tax and insurance and would report her to the gardai .Which btw is a well known intimidation tactic and it is not nice to see a priest use it.
Not really. He was taking down her registration number.
wow rich missyb ,,from someone that wanted to slap the priest a few posts ago isn’t it . Obviously the threat of violence doesn’t class as intimidation in your world again we wonder why they are despised ..
Missy , maybe she blocked the entrance of the church and the priest asked her to move it and she refused and he took her reg and threatened to report it if she didn’t move the car ?
What’s wrong with just conforming and showing respect ? Does everything have to be a “Notice me Rebellion” .
Karen, who should conform to what? Should the minority conform to the majority or visa versa?
Conform to the dress code. Your second question is gibberish.
Carina, to conform means to comply with rules or standards ! The minority in this case don’t have rules in regards the particular circumstance they’re just interested in breaking them and then love shouting about discrimination etc !! Remember this was a kids communion would u be all for a teacher wearing inappropriate clothes and behaving in an offensive manner ???????
I believe she’s so upset over this experience at the church that she’s going to the mosque to make the big switch.
Where’s the dress?
I see a ..shirt.
Corinthians 14:34-35 ”Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.”
He’s technically right according to the Bible upon which her religion is based on…
That’s cream crackers
From the book of Jacob?
Looks more like a T-shirt than a dress.
“Martin Collins from Pavee Point” I stopped reading at that point
So the battle for equality goes on!
How is this an equality issue?
Because travelers in today’s society in some people eyes are not equal and are always discriminated against. If she wasn’t a traveler in this video there would have been no problem whatsoever
I’m sure her outfit was just one of the issues in fairness !!
They choose to not be equal !! How can you shout about not being equal when you choose to not pay taxes etc etc etc !! C’mon !!
Yes Ross O’Flaherty the equality of the dress look but you may not touch.
The battle for equality does indeed go on Ross, Travellers need to stop treating people who aren’t part of their extended family like sh*t.
Read the article Ross – plenty of other traveller families were allowed into the church.
Now, lets try that again – how is this an equality issue?
Indeed. That so-called ‘man of God’ should be ashamed of himself, the grinning idiot.
There’s nothing wrong with her dress.. Ive seen much more skimpier dresses in church.
First of all, the comments and thumbs on here clearly point out that there is an equality issue here. I would say that based on what I have read most people believe settled people to be better than travellers. This alone is inequality.
Karen, your statement about tax is massively racist. Even if it was true it wouldn’t make sense as a counter argument because it’s not the priests business to worry about who pays tax or not.
How is this an equality issue? Do you think a settled person wearing the same dress would have been refused entry?
Does she go to mass every week or just for the ‘big days’?
@chris your dead right! And I’m sure there are plenty of gays who dodge tax.. I’m almost 100% certain if this was your average massive wearing sunglasses range Rover driving mom wearing that dress there would have been no problem
“Do you think a settled person wearing the same dress would have been denied entry?”
Lets try a different question: If this was based on discrimination do you think all the other travellers would have been allowed in?
I’m sure her outfit wasn’t one of the ones that caused the issue. Nice of them to video the one and only one dressed decently.
Compo?
Last of the Summer (turning water into) Wine
Can’t sue the Catholic Church for discrimination unfortunately.Although if any ‘minority’ will try it will be this particular ‘minority’.And the CC was worried about ‘teh ebil gays’ taking them to the cleaners. ;-)
Jesus himself couldnt afford to turn water into wine these days Pauliebhoy
every time there is a wedding it’s the same half dress’s every where Don’t blame the priest not one bit notice the gift of the gab nothing wrong with that.
Usual stuff don’t get their own way and the cry of discrimination goes up. You have my support 100% Father. Time to stand up to them before they ruin the country.
Not an equality issue at all. If you went into a temple in Thailand, you would be expected to dress respectfully also, and no one would think of it as discrimination.
There was another woman trying to get into that church later on and she was topless ,the priest said you can’t go in there like that ,why not she said I have a divine right she said , you have a divine left as well but your still not going into the church ,he said
That was funny..I had Fr Ted in my head as I read it back
Badum tish.
Brilliant, a preview of the new Katherine Lynch not so comedy show………………..
And??? Nope…. Couldn’t care less if I tried.
Apparently a letter was sent to all communion families about the dress code. What were the other members of the family wearing? Her dress is fine but it is the only dress that has been shown
Could it be that it’s white and the priest thinks it not appropriate because of the holy white innocents of it all? Just wondering?
Click the link in the top right at the start of the video to see the guards arrive and the other girls with her.
I see a young girl wearing heels, full make up, fake tan a mini skirt and a crop top and lots of others with coats on covering their outfits. The young girls outfit is definitely not appropriate.
I am sorry but travellers have taken religion out of communions, which is meant to be a solemn occasion. The waste of money spent on costumes and party dresses does not fit the occasion and ignores spirituality . You are either religious or you are not. Go and have a party and wear what you want , but if you involve the church do not be disingenuous.
I am an atheist and don’t believe in any of this nonsense, but at least I do not take the piss out of the church by insulting it by having no respect for their formal ceremonies. Travellers have demeaned communions for their children as it is portrayed as an excuse for their children to wear inappropriate clothing for an occasion which they have no understanding as to its religious significance and merely see it as a day of lavish opulence.
The parents, who themselves are children, (The State is to blame) due to a lack of education are reliving the celebration for themselves rather than instructing their children as to the significance of the occasion. So I agree with the priest on this occasion
Her dress and behaviour were disgracful.The disrespect she showed to the priest and to others was beyond belief. I’m speechless…..no manners …no reverence …… go home and reflect how you’ve upset everyone. Try and find remorse and apologise…..
You’ve disgraced yourself and your own people.
Any Irish person well know she wasnt a victim of discrimination, they have skirts up to their brains , they have their big horse n carts or limos , no regard for any other families there .. I feel sorry for the good travellers who are tarnished by these loud mouths , parish priest was right
I wouldn’t wear it myself but I don’t really see the big deal. It’s covered – sleeves and cleavage. I was expecting a backless strictly come dancing number.
Whether you admit it or not I think most people would rather not live near a group of this certain ‘minority’.
I’m no expert in ladies clothing but I have t-shirts longer than that “dress”. In fact I don’t think I own a t-shirt that short.
There is nothing wrong with the length of that dress.
All the prudes red thumbing me.
Maybe when she sat down there was.
I think i can see a blue dress
On the face of it, in this instance at least, the traveller lady was dressed appropriately. Bit gobby with the shrill assertiveness though. In all fairness there must be reasonable limitations. A friend of mine years ago wanted a metallica song played at his relatives funeral. Priest declined and so followed the par for course “what right does he have to deny me this etc etc”. Another bloke at same funeral said, it was alright but did he-the priest-have to mention God so much!! You couldn’t make it up.
The social gap between Travellers and the “Settled/Country” folk continues to widen, to the point of hatred and venom. Something needs to be done, but it’s an issue that not one single political party seems to want to go near. That’s telling.
As long as the same rule is applied to settled people who don’t adhere the dress code, the priest did the right thing.
I agree with what P O’Leary said.
It’s unacceptable to let children run around during the ceremony – whether they’re Travellers or not.
Priest makes it pretty clear in the video it’d about the dress. I guess it’s the churches right to deny entry but if he is denying them only due to the fact they are travellers it’s discrimination.
All that said the church really need to get their act together if they want to halt their own decline
I was refused entry into a church a few years back because i was wearing a vest top and shorts. I didn’t make a scene I just left.
Same happened me in Bolivia Mike. Didn’t like my shorts. Came back another day with jeans. Priest then refused to give communion in the hand, tried l put it in my mouth. I reached past him and got my own.
Hey, you’re not me.
How very dare you use the same name as me. I was here before you :) Great name Mike.
Have to say that dress is pretty conservative . I would go as far as to say that if it wasn’t for a communion she would actually be over dressed for a traveller
Dead on suzie..but maybe a general rule for these church events or any kids events is the rule..the dress should be longer than the sleeves.
Saying that, it is a nice dress, I would wear it if I was going out of a night.
And an aside, thank you and the rest of yous for..well you know what
Jenni I agree it’s grand for a night out , a few on here have your back and wouldn’t leave ya to deal with that crap on your own . good to see you back and glad that it hasn’t put you off.
She should have said she was gay.
By Jesus THE DOORS WOULD OPEN THEN ALL RIGHT.
Is that what you took from this weekend? That the doors are open? Only to the registry office.
I feel a big compo claim coming
Someone better ring Bono. I tried Enda’s ‘always reachable phone’ but it went straight to message minder.
http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/05/25/inappropriate/#comment-1376362 A closer view of the dress – with the legs all the way up to the dark coloured thong clearly visible. Appropriate dress? Not IMO, Imagine the back view or indeed the view when not in the a dark lobby!!!
I know that this is unrelated but: Damn, why are Travelers always so hot?
Seriously, if there was a dating app for Travelers I’d be on there straight away.
I think it’s the Specsavers app you need boss
That is NOT a dress – it is a top. I’ve never supported a priests point of view in my life but in this case I do
As if the church aren’t already struggling with people who are disaffected. Stupidity on the part of the priest.
Nobody mentions the fact that the priest cursed at her. The church would want to be careful because travellers are probably the only ones left in this country that actually respect it. I don’t like what he is wearing, does that mean i can stand outside a church and deny him entry? He has no right. If the church want to make a stand on dress code, let them do it from the pulpit and begin to explain to the people, not just decide willy nilly on the day, at the door, who he will let in because that can be interpreted as discrimination. Another point i noticed was the way he took out his pen and started to take down her reg number.Why do that? Would he do that to a ‘settled woman’ if she had an argument with him? Discrimination at it’s best.
Ha! Travellers have no respect for the church, priests or mass. They behave appallingly at mass. And there are still lots who have respect for the church still.
They might have a different way about them that goes against the grain but they do believe in the catholic church, the priests and all that religious stuff. That’s why they go to so much effort.
Nobody’s paying attention to the fact that he cursed because it’s nothing in comparison to the destruction caused by attention seekers like her, traveller or not. Why do you expect us all to put up with assh*les?
Dide you hear him cursing at her or are you only going on what she said?
Did he curse at her? Where is the evidence?
Given the rapid decline of Irish people attending mass, it seems to me that it is foolish for a church to refuse entry to any person, much less a member of the travelling community, considering that a lot of travellers are devout Catholics.
Devout Catholics.
Are these the same people who bring slashooks to cemetery Sunday masses and bate the heads off each other in a graveyard. Are these the same people who regularly fight at most funerals and weddings, and recently shootings at a wedding.
Most make their money out of SW scams and robbing people in their own homes.
Come on this devout Catholic thing is a joke. It’s just a vehicle for them to show off at weddings and funerals. I mean not one of them work and they all have money to burn.
No TV3 or Channel 4 documentary is going to hide the fact that most of them are not nice people.
Devour me Aras.
@P’O'Leary, I found myself reading that comment with the Bulls voice…well done!
Devout Catholics who happen to bring Slash hooks to weddings , and prey on elderly ppl in rural areas , yep devout Catholics alright , you’re obviously living in a bubble
She wasn’t refused because she’s from the travelling community. She was refused because of what she wore. Im sure she’s a lovely person but I had read that the prest had told people, on the run up to the communion, to dress respectfully. She’s dresses like she’s going to a club.
Shur that’s not a dress, it’s a top!! Barely cover yer arse!
She wasn’t refused because she’s from the travelling community. She was refused because of what she wore. Im sure she’s a lovely person but I had read that the prest had told people, on the run up to the communion, to dress respectfully. No offence to the woman, but she’s dresses like she’s going to a club.
How long is the dress? To me it looks like it’d just cover the cheeks of her arse, you can tell by the length of the sleeves they alone are 1/2 at most 3/4 length. Why was she there she didn’t have a child making communion (that statement could apply to extended family too). I can see this becoming a topic of debate in the Dáil, people sure love the ation, phobe and ism ending words these days!
Think she’s got the wrong venue – have to agree with the Priest and Parish on this one.
Is it safe to come back?
Real jenni here…Reporting for duty..
Real jenni or fake jenni, no one cares
Thats not a very nice thing to say. Have you ever had your identity cloned and have somebody roam about making comments using Your name and Your picture. I think not.
I have spent the last 24 hours worrying what somebody was going to say next using my name and my pic…its absolutely horrific.
I hope it never happens to you. Its horrible
Did you read all the awful stuff he posted, i doubt it.
I only have 2 things to say…its not the first time being copied..and do you know what ram. My fh…when u read something written in your name that you categorically did not write, and it could be offensive…wow, that gets your blood boiling, but u cant stop it coz someone has hijacked ur account.
Oh and just for the record..fake jenni got the most red thumbs for the comments it made. Go check it out…the most red thumbs, all attribited to my name.
Now please dont make any more comebacks.
No I am not, cop on would you, but if I go to the effort of making a comment to someone on this forum its because I want to see whatelse they have to say, its because I have an interest in what they are saying. Its a good forum, just like I’m talking to you now.
Thats why …
Is that good enough for you?
The mind boggles how this country ever voted YES in the marraige referendum when you see comments here mostly attacking a minority group! Seriously it does. Hypocrital to say the least. Equality when it suits eh? Not such a proud moment afterall.
Missyb211 it seems it’s just myself and yourself thinking the same thing…..
Fair play to you Father !!!
Not arsed watching the video but the dress in the photo and the one in the screen grab attached to the story are two completely different dresses!
Looks a respectable woman!
Why do they always say ‘huz’ instead of ‘us’? That’s what I want to know.
Calm down, calm down
There was an article last night here, ten spontaneous traveller photos. Well the stuff them boys were getting up to. It’d warm your heart. They’re not all scammers and con men
You cant have the pineapple looking better then the palm tree
Fair play Ron you don’t beat around the Bush.
“Says” the important word in the headline
Feck the story (hard to say what the real facts are). The real shock to me here is the out and out racist thinking in the comments of this article!
At the risk of sounding racist myself, I knew most Journal.ie commenters took a rather simplistic (often negative) view of the world, but I thought most of ye were better than this!
As I prefer to think, idiocy knows no race, religion, gender or boundary. And the woman in the video seems to be just acting the idiot (I’m open to being corrected). That said, it’s hard to see who is the bigger idiot – her or the over-generalising racist commenters on here!
Good on ye Mary.
You can’t paint all travellers with the one brush . There are so many people who aren’t from the travelling community and are just plain rough but people call them travellers just because of that ? On Friday we had a vote for equality for gay marraige because we want to live in an equal society ? Well then why are travellers so discriminated aggainst in situations like this . People need some serious come on .
What are the churches going to do when our gay friends decide to get married and wear what they want???
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