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Analysis: Energy insecurity and our fracking future

The Irish Academy of Engineering has said the government’s report on Ireland’s energy security is “seriously flawed”.

“UNSUITABLE”, “SERIOUSLY FLAWED” and “entirely unrealistic” are just some of the words that have been used by the Irish Academy of Engineering to describe the government’s energy security report to ensure that the country will have enough electricity and gas to meet its needs in the coming years.

As the country faces into what has been forecast to be one of the most difficult winters in years, the cost of energy remains high, and while the government announced a number of energy supports in Budget 2023, including the Temporary Business Energy Support Scheme and €600-worth of credits to reduce energy bills, many are concerned that this will not be enough to keep the lights on having endured months of price hikes from providers.

Last month, the Minister for the Environment Eamon Ryan published the Security of Energy Supply of Ireland’s Electricity and Natural Gas Systems report. Compiled by consultancy firm CEPA, the technical report looked at ways to secure Ireland’s energy supply between now and 2030.

Among the options listed to secure our energy supply into the future was a “floating” liquefied natural gas terminal that would serve as a back-up facility, but the report recommended against three other LNG terminal possibilities.

A public consultation period for submissions on the report from stakeholders was launched after it was published. It ends this week.

However, the first submission won’t make for happy reading for the Environment Minister. The Irish Academy of Engineering (IAE) described many of its proposals as unrealistic and flawed in a response published yesterday.

The IAE said that “by 2030, the Corrib field is likely to be fully depleted”, which would leave Ireland solely dependent on fuel imports needed to generate electricity being delivered via a pipeline from Moffat in Scotland.

The IAE also said that any interruption to the supply from Scotland could shut down the country’s gas network, “and possibly much of the Irish economy”, in just 20 minutes.

The proposals in the report to reduce this risk are technically flawed and unrealistic in their assumptions around the commercialisation of new technology. 

The report also dismissed suggestions from the Government that hydrogen produced from offshore wind could be a realistic solution to the country’s energy security needs.

“Green hydrogen technology will hopefully play a role in decarbonising energy consumption both in Ireland and worldwide. Despite the optimism in the report, this technology is not remotely close to commercial development and is highly unlikely to be available at large commercial scale before 2035,” it stated.

While not as heavy a polluter as oil or coal, gas is a fossil fuel that contributes to pushing global temperatures upwards, creating the climate crisis that is already having significant consequences in parts of the world and will grow worse if left unchecked.

On that basis, many experts, politicians and activists argue that it should be moved away from as quickly as possible in favour of renewable energy sources.

The Government is largely opposed to LNG based on the concern that it would allow for the importation of fracked gas, something that was outlined in the Programme for Government.

The three coalition parties said it would not “make sense” to develop LNG terminals to import fracked gas.

“As Ireland moves towards carbon neutrality, we do not believe that it make sense to develop LNG gas import terminals importing fracked gas. Accordingly, we shall withdraw the Shannon LNG terminal from the EU Projects of Common Interest list in 2021,” the programme states. 

“We do not support the importation of fracked gas and shall develop a policy statement to establish that approach.”

However, the IAE report states that the lack of an LNG terminal in the medium and long-term “poses a high risk to the reliability of the Irish power system”.

It said the idea of a floating LNG terminal as a back-up to store gas is “inadequate for Ireland’s needs” as it would only be equivalent to 3.5 days average peak day demand. “Larger onshore storage facilities are essential, to provide even minimal storage requirements.”

It said the option of an on-land terminal should have been examined “in an objective manner” and given consideration ”as a potential major contributor to the long-term security of Ireland’s energy supply”.

“It makes absolutely no sense to rule out an Irish land based LNG terminal on the basis of reduced imports of fracked gas,” the report states.

It added that a fifth of Europe’s gas will be fracked by 2030, so Ireland will consume significant amounts of fracked gas by then whether it has an LNG terminal or not.

By the time the EU fully disengages from Russian supplies it is likely that more than 20% of EU gas will be sourced in the US and most of this will be “fracked”. This is not a concern of any EU Government –except Ireland.

“Based on its preliminary reading the Academy is satisfied that the report as published should not be used to underpin any future energy policy development.”

Chair of the IAE’s energy committee Don Moore said that while report adequately assessed the risk to Irish supplies, its proposals were “simplistic in the extreme” and ignore costs and timing, making it “entirely unsuitable as a basis for further energy planning”.

“It is essential for the security of Irish energy supplies that Ireland develops its own LNG import facility as soon as possible,” he said.

It’s not clear whether the Government would consider building an LNG import facility, but what is clear is that the State’s over-dependence on imported energy sources means people here are more exposed to cost increases, as well as supply issues.

A report by the National Competitiveness and Productivity Council, published earlier this year, said Ireland’s dependency on imported energy was 71% in 2020, one of the highest levels in the EU and well above the EU average of 57%. It added that the country is “acutely exposed” to cost increases and energy supply challenges as a result.

But as part of reaching its target of net zero emissions by 2050, the Government is working on delivering more renewable energy for the country, which will prove more cost effective in the long-term.

According to a report by energy consultancy Cornwall Insight Ireland, published in the Irish Examiner, the country is set to hit the target of generating 80% of its power from renewables thanks to offshore wind by 2030, which will help to stabilise the market and lower long-term energy prices.

“The commissioning of new, low marginal cost solar and offshore wind power, alongside increased battery storage, are forecast to help lower winter energy prices below the pre-2021 historical average from 2027 onwards, with solar power becoming nearly a fifth of the energy capacity by the middle of the decade,” the report states.

While this is certainly positive news, many would be dismayed at the thought that they have to wait another eight years for prices to come down.

In the EU, leaders have endorsed plans in principle for a price cap on gas as it tries to fix the energy market following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine eight months ago, which led to a shortage of gas and triggered market instability.

Leaders have been debating the proposed cap for weeks, but some countries, including Germany and the Netherlands, remain sceptical of the proposal and fear that producers could export gas to countries willing to pay higher prices. Ministers are due to meet to discuss the proposal again next month.

Regardless of whether the cap is introduced or not, Europe remains on track for a couple of difficult years, an Oireachtas committee was told last week.

Reported in the Irish Times, Cillian O’Donoghue, director of policy with Eurelectric, told the committee that there is “no easy solution” to the crisis in the short term, and that it is likely to last “at least eighteen months.”

Dr Paul Deane, a senior research fellow at the Environmental Research Centre in University College Cork, also told the committee that Ireland is not responding to the crisis with the same “agility” as had been shown in response to the Covid-19 pandemic.

“We have declared a climate emergency in Ireland, there is a war in Europe, and an associated energy crisis, yet the pace of energy infrastructure delivery and action in Ireland is at odds with these emergencies,” he said.

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    Mute Random_paddy
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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:09 PM

    Id be more concerned that none of them have a set of balls

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    Mute White Fang
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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:09 PM

    ‘Disaster’ might be over-stating it.

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    Mute Fiachra Maolmordha Ó Raghallaigh
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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:04 PM

    Perhaps so, but when the Government can’t even be bothered showing lip service to the language it’s pretty worrying.

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    Mute Paul Nelly Nelson
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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:12 PM

    Meh, the vast majority of the country couldn’t care less, the issue gets far too much attention given its lack of actual importance.

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    Mute Buckwheat MacMillan
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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:25 PM

    Don’t say ‘Meh’

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    Mute Paul Nelly Nelson
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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:27 PM

    ok pffff then

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    Mute John Sharpson
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    Mar 13th 2014, 8:09 PM

    Men and women died so we could speak a language and they wont even bother to learn it or even show respect. Its a disgrace. ‘Tìr gan teanga, Tìr gan anam’

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    Mute Mark Sweetman
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    Mar 13th 2014, 8:27 PM

    Who died?

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    Mute Sam Aritan
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    Mar 13th 2014, 8:55 PM

    “Men and women died so we could speak a language and they wont even bother to learn it or even show respect. Its a disgrace. ‘Tìr gan teanga, Tìr gan anam’

    We’ve had 100 years of irish being force fed down our throats, and still only 70,000 speak it daily.

    If 20 million died, they died for a cause at that time. It’s not my cause, and I’m not responsible for it.

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    Mute Keith Dickinson
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    Mar 13th 2014, 9:37 PM

    What a total load of nationalistic rubbish.

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    Mute Colin Frawley
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    Mar 13th 2014, 10:08 PM

    Well Fiachra, the goverments(both this and the last one) have not paid lip service to the people on bigger issues such as the economy, bank bailouts and the future Irish generations, with all due respect, this is pretty trivial in comparison

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    Mute Donald clifford
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    Mar 13th 2014, 10:25 PM

    @john sharpson what an assh-le you are, men and women fought for this country to rid us of colonialism and a foreign rule and just not to preserve the irish language. The irish proclamation was all inclusive and not exclusive, those Irishmen who fought in world war one should be equally remembered for their bravery and their representation of this wonderful country in ww1, they had courage not like a cowardly keyboard cretin like you.

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    Mute Damien Martin
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    Mar 13th 2014, 11:43 PM

    Clearly you never heard of the Easter rising or the war of independence, a country without its language is a country without its soul.

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    Mute Keith Dickinson
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    Mar 13th 2014, 11:53 PM

    Yea that’s right, the Easter rising and the civil war was all about preserving the language,,, sorry i forgot..

    A country preoccupied with language is not a country but a bunch of a…holes manipulating the populous for their own ends.

    If i don’t see a shamrock and a leprechaun at least once a week i forget i am Irish. happens to us all….

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    Mute An Spailpín Fánach
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    Mar 14th 2014, 12:36 AM

    For you maybe. What about the people who’s daily language is Irish. Majority Rules as usual and the vast majority of the country couldn’t care less about anything

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    Mute Genocidal Capitalist
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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:08 PM

    Seriously how is this an issue? Most of the country don’t have knowledge of Irish. Flogging a dead horse here.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:22 PM

    Gen – is a new Troll !!!!

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    Mute Snorre Sturleson
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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:26 PM

    aithnionnn ciaróg ciaróg eile

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:07 PM

    Woah calm down there sonny, you’ll blow too soon.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:46 PM

    Old troll, new name…

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:12 PM

    Can they please discuss actual proper important issues!

    I don’t give a flying monkey’s if a TD from any party has no word of Irish, what I care about is if they get the job done.

    SF need to get their priority’s in order!

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:34 PM

    Couldn’t agree more, Martin. Absolutely farcical intervention on the part of this man – and to think I had begun to consider voting for Sinn Fein! If I, as an English speaker, am going to be subjected to fascism under Sinn Fein I’m going to have to do a lot of re-thinkin.

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    Mar 14th 2014, 7:42 AM

    How many times have you been forced to speak Irish in Ireland? I and my neighbours – we live in an Irish speaking district – are forced to speak English in their business with the State. Is that facism? Should I be forced to abandon my birth and constitutional right because the State does not cherish it?

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    Mute Concubhar O Liathain
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    Mar 14th 2014, 9:47 AM

    If you took care to learn English properly, you might have a point.

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    Mute Brendan O'Brien
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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:31 PM

    ‘But he insisted that there was a far greater amount of people …’

    Number of people – not amount. There’s something to be said for good English.

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    Mute Fiachra Maolmordha Ó Raghallaigh
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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:00 PM

    Aye, is beag Teachta Dála atá in ann Béarla a labhairt na laethanta seo.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:10 PM

    Other then a handful of people out in the sticks in the west of Ireland, I doubt anybody cares whether our Ministers can speak Irish or not. And if they do care then they need to get out more!

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:13 PM

    Speak for yourself

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:16 PM

    Spot on darnell,

    The important thing here is can the TD do their job, after that I don’t care if they speak french instead of Irish as a second language

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:24 PM

    Typical D4 type ignorant smart Alec reply from Darnell – you foolish Troll

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:44 PM

    French would be more useful for a minister Martin!

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:52 PM

    Im sure youd give a shit if they spoke french and not english…..

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:54 PM

    I’m not sure Karen, I was better at French after five years of school than my Irish was after thrirteen years!

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:02 PM

    I am not from Dublin 4 lol. Im just saying what most people are thinking. Sorry I hit a nerve, I’m just an ignorant Dublin jackeen-what would I know?!

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:51 PM

    Darnell
    You shouldn’t rise to the Sinn Fein bait. Remember they operate in groups or cells and have seriously infected this particular site. You didn’t hit a nerve but instead you hit a learned comment point.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:51 PM

    No he speaking for the majority of this hell hole of a country … It’s a useless dead language and should be removed from all walks of irish life … Gaelic nonsense

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:40 PM

    “Richard” and KKK – the leading lights in conspiracy theories – and a laugh a minute too – a chara !

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    Mar 13th 2014, 10:47 PM

    old clichéd old crap from you there ciarraioch you don’t have to be from D4 to harbour similar views,some of us are even from Kerry and are even educated but may have a difference of opinion, does that make me a troll or does it make you a condescending oppressive dimwit.

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    Mar 14th 2014, 12:55 AM

    Agus cén teangacha eile a labhraíonn tú féin, anseo nó thar lear? And what other languages do you speak?

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    Mar 14th 2014, 2:50 AM

    Sure if they started speaking Irish there would be loads of “oh, that was a language error, I meant to say something else”.. I’m so over this boring debate! It’s a dead language, let it die!

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    Mute Donald clifford
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    Mar 14th 2014, 10:50 PM

    I actually was proficient in English and the science subjects, physics,chemistry and biology and had little interest In irish, I actually preferred latin which was just about useful as irish but more relavent in my profession.

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    Mute Michael Budd
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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:43 PM

    Wether a person is an Irish speaker or not is not an affective way to judge if they are good enough to hold high office. It’s desirable but nothing more.

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    Mute in_zane_burger
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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:00 PM

    Why is it desirable?

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    Mute Paul Nelly Nelson
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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:29 PM

    Its desirable to the few thousand irish spreakers, its a waste of time to everyone else

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:41 PM

    Its desirable to people who think you cant be irish without speaking irish. in fact, these days it has nothing to do with being irish at all. its just a hobby for a few idiots in aran jumpers (cable knit, the woolen umbilical cord back to the garden of eden)

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    Mar 13th 2014, 8:54 PM

    Idiotic comment.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 9:39 PM

    Perfectly put Andrew!

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    Mar 14th 2014, 12:38 AM

    Surely it’s better to be bilingual than monoligual

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:17 PM

    lack of ethics, no problem. Cant speak Irish hell to pay…..

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    Mute Karen NíDhochartaigh
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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:55 PM

    Actually they give out regularly about FG/FF and labours lack of ethics

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:07 PM

    Can’t speak ordinary English let alone irish

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:17 PM

    Focall Irish speaking ministers…tut tut..

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    Mute Chris Mansfield
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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:14 PM

    Years of symbolism hasn’t done anything to revive the Irish language.

    What do we need? More symbolism…

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:17 PM

    I have made a commitment to go back and learn it later this year, I feel that Ireland is in a poorer place cultural than ever before and the global elite wish to keep us devoid of heritage and historical continuity, the Irish language is rich in its interpretation of the world, but I honesty feel that to learn it is to give two fingers to the new world order of the EU and multiculturalism, both of which destroy Nations.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:20 PM

    culturally – a pity the Journal does not have an edit capacity.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:28 PM

    Tir gan teanga, tir gan anam as my old CB used say as he buggered his way around the classroom

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    Mute David A
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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:36 PM

    A bit of a saga there Snorre I say.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:59 PM

    They have taken away your national identity, bankrupted your nation, and knackered your nation for 50-100 years to come and all the misery that involves.

    And you complain about the loss of a dead language!

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    Mute Keith Dickinson
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    Mar 13th 2014, 9:44 PM

    Unfortunately you have a good point. The same dimwits we had 90 years ago are still with us.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:22 PM

    If they really wanted to make that point, they should do ALL their Dáil speeches as Gaeilge. They would probably make the same amount of sense as the ones they give in English.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:26 PM

    It would help to keep the majority of us in the dark.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:43 PM

    I wonder how much this will cost us after Sinn Féin insist on having the full transcript of their exchange with Bruton translated into Irish and then have it photocopied 500 times per constituent – as is their constitutional right!

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:16 PM

    I wouldn’t worry about the cost of photocopying as SF have loads of print cartridges.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:15 PM

    Can’t believe we’re paying them to have this argument.

    That’s the disgrace.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:43 PM

    I don’t trust them when they are speaking English and if any of them start speaking Irish I really will start to worry. SF/IRA use it to deceive. If SF/ IRA really were determined to promote Irish let them speak only Irish in the chamber and at council meetings – see how that works with voters. They have no conviction only to power at any cost.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:14 PM

    They should be more concerned that there was no minister available who gives to shites about the people of this country

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:47 PM

    Lm Group
    Try practicing your English before you post. The progress one can make in a short time can be remarkable. I could recommend a good person to assist you.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:26 PM

    This government is crap in any language!

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:48 PM

    Cronyism, corruption and skimming of “Charities” by Government party officials……. WTF

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    Mute Liam Foley
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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:29 PM

    The solution to this problem is having MORE primary school teachers in government. There, how do you feel about that?

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:06 PM

    SF will have non-Irish speakers “re-educated” in special camps.

    Judging by how they treat their own whom they suspect of supporting law and order do’;t envisage a nice time.

    SS camps come to mind.

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    Mute Jeremy Usbourne
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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:49 PM

    The competence deficit is the issue.

    Not gaeilge tokenism

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:03 PM

    Typical Paddys attack the man for speaking his own language in his own country during a designated Irish week. Cromwell and his army did a good job on the Irish . Conservative/Tory governments and the most subservient country in Europe . Rule Britannia for the mongrel paddys.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 11:57 PM

    So are you saying I’m not Irish if I don’t speak Irish?

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:29 PM

    i learned to hate the irish language.i cant stick it even stick it for ten seconds.it all started in in 2002,when i start going to thailand a coulple of times every year.anyway i use to come home via aerlingus from amsterdam. i was depressed off me nut after saying goodbye to all the little honeys.and then it would start,the dreaded irish language on the plane and the rude air hostesses with the caked on make up. it was then i would know i was back to reality

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:55 PM

    The world is a little sadder because you said that

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:03 PM

    You must not know much about t he world!

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:09 PM

    It seems you don’t have much affection for English either.

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    Mute Dave Anthony
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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:47 PM

    sorry nobby

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:44 PM

    Dave – are you a cousin to Richard Rogers – he has hangups peculiar to you too ?

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    Mar 14th 2014, 7:44 AM

    Stick with the lady boys then Dave

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    Mar 13th 2014, 4:50 PM

    Thats what this government is about,ridding use of as much irishness as they can,nearly trying to make the word catholic a dirty word,but this is Ireland we have our culture and our nationality,but i believe Shatter has a big hand in all this anti Irishness,he is desperately trying to diversify our population as quick as he can,in 2011 their was 112,000 people from outside the Eu who`s visa`s were due to expire,and would off had to leave Ireland,but Shatter quickly changed the rules and let them stay,with the promise they could apply for citizenship in 5 yrs.Shatter is despised by most Irish people and he has no Irish blood in him,so he does`nt give a toss about Ireland and its indigenous people,while spineless Kenny looks on,and lets him do as he likes.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:57 PM

    Staighttalker
    I don’t really know how to respond to that post! Perhaps I should recommend that you should get out and about a little as you seem to be unable to express yourself in a comfortable way. Maybe you should slow down and try to make real sentences rather than splurging with words. Finally you should try to remove any public expressions of hatred in your contributions and racism is a real no no!
    PS…a name change would be a good idea !

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    Mar 13th 2014, 6:33 PM

    @richard Rodgers

    Keep your opinions to yourself you idiot , just because you are a lackey for kenny and co . And haven’t got the guts to stand up for what you believe in you politically correct tool.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:01 PM

    Straighttalker, you’re a cod. A cod for all to see.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:06 PM

    @Genocidal capitalist

    How many aliases do you have fool,you might need to get help for that!

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:10 PM

    Just the one you pleb. Then again you are a vile disgusting piece of filth. One can only laugh at your sad little xenophobic rants. Oh and while you accuse Shatter of having no Irish blood in him, where is your passport? Kind of hoping they don’t give them to the village idiot like yourself.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:15 PM

    upset have i,you pathetic delinquent ,you have all the hallmarks of a spoiled rich kid,you ignorant fool.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:17 PM

    And you have the grammatical capabilities of a child. Having said that, it wouldn’t surprise me that you are a child given the depth of your argument. As for rich kid; I’m rich in the knowledge that I’m far superior to you in every way.

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    Mute Paul Nelly Nelson
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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:17 PM

    heh, ‘keep your opinions to yourself’ …. oh dear

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:23 PM

    I should have said a vile nasty rich kid who`s full of shit,and a complete coward as well,call my bluff tool,come on

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:27 PM

    Grand, come down to Stephens Green. Just make sure the locals don’t ask you to leave because of the smell of bullsh*t off you.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:32 PM

    Are you sure mammy will let you out, you horrible piece of shit, it’s getting late , you’d be better of trying to educate yourself you sad baxtxard

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:36 PM

    I love the irony of someone of your intellectual capabilities stating that I should educate myself. Try reading your last post, and I mean try because I know learning a new language can be difficult.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:40 PM

    I’ll ask your mammy, after I pull out.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:48 PM

    Geno – you write identically like your other five aliases – very hard to hide gross ignorance !

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:52 PM

    So you base who you think I am from my writing style? Ignorance is bliss for you kid.

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    Mar 14th 2014, 7:33 AM

    I think the church has been doing a great job of making “Catholic” a dirty word all on its own, without any help from the Government

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    Mar 13th 2014, 6:26 PM

    Who gives a shit, oh my god surely there are more serious matters than an irish speaking minister, again more bullshit from the media, great job

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:48 PM

    Even as an Irish speaker and a supporter of the language, I have to agree with you.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:33 PM

    I don’t think taking a petty swipe at the govt over it is doing the language any favours. There’s so many bigger issues.
    Besides, the fact that that shower of mutts can’t speak it kinda makes it a lot cooler!

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    Mar 13th 2014, 6:14 PM

    Sf should head to high court and complain. We spend too much on a lame language that is no longer relevant in global business.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:02 PM

    Do they not teach Irish @ Clongowes?

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    Mar 14th 2014, 12:49 AM

    One thing I can’t understand. What do most Irish people have against being able to speak a two languages? It is the norm in most of Europe. But we are so proud that we can barely master one and even then not able to adjust our English when necessary to be understood by people from other countries. We are so proud that we are thick.
    Don’t look to UK, USA , Australia……..see the real world, where multilingualism is no problem

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:01 PM

    This is the worst thing ever in the history of the country, ever.
    WE ARE DOOMED.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:16 PM

    sure we might aswel rejoin the empire!

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    Mar 13th 2014, 5:18 PM

    Opposition really struggling…

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:52 PM

    O’Really – O’Reilly – you are a laugh a minute after your lot disgracing themselves over the past few weeks !
    Have Shatter and Callinan followed Frank Flannery yet ?

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    Mar 13th 2014, 9:35 PM

    Whatever Kerry. Btw, despite you spelling your name as geailge, and being a devout shinnerbot, not a word of Irish in any of your posts in defense of the language! Typical Sinn Fein double speak…

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:17 PM

    Irish speaking TD’s are usually teachers and teachers make terrible TD’s.

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    Mute An Spailpín Fánach
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    Mar 14th 2014, 12:56 AM

    True, but that’s because they are only qualified as teachers, not because they are Irish Speakers

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:26 PM

    WE SPEAK ENGLISH IN THIS COUNTRY

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:32 PM

    Tá an Ghaeilig á labhairt sa tír seo fosta…

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:55 PM

    What Country Des ? Are you abroad ?

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    Mar 13th 2014, 8:11 PM

    Ciarraioch i dont know if you have noticed,but we are all speaking english to each other here,you stupid bogger.go and talk irish to your sheep

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    Mar 13th 2014, 8:12 PM

    Des you are a CLOWN. Tá an Ghaeilge fós beo is mairfidh sí go deo

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:24 PM

    It’d be great if they were all bilingual in the Dail. Then they could tell lies in two languages.

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    Mar 14th 2014, 1:32 AM

    I’d also be very interested to know how many of the people vehemently complaining about them ‘wasting time’ and ‘not getting the job done’, among other things, would have been actually interested in the outcome of Leaders Questions today had this little cause for debate not arisen.

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    Mar 14th 2014, 1:30 AM

    What I can’t understand is why so many people who have no connection or use for the Irish language are so dead set against it. I can appreciate anybody being apathetic, it’s not for everyone and there’s plently of things that don’t affect me in this country that I couldn’t give a damn about, but I never make it my business to go out of my way and be detrimental to those things just because..! Can people not just let those who are ar son na Gaeilge have their say and if you don’t care, don’t bother. Surely it takes more energy to b*tch and moan about it than it does to just move on to something else more pertinent to your own life? Ní thuigim, ach tuigim nach bhfuil aon maitheas ann a bheith ag tráchtáil anseo ach an oiread.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 9:27 PM

    I thought that roly poly Rabbitte could talk irish, he can talk a lot of rubbish.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:49 PM

    Sounds like a one off situation as so many are out of the country for St Patricks stuff – think generating jobs and investment for the country is marginally more important than some weekly charade

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    Mar 14th 2014, 12:07 AM

    Can we please put the Irish language to bed once and for all.. Like religion, if you want to speak Irish please do so, in the privacy of your own home but don’t expect my children to learn it. Furthermore do not accuse people of being less Irish because they don’t speak it. Show some respect. And more importantly do not hijack my heritage of revolution and fighting against oppression with some narrow minded socialist Republican mantra.

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    Mar 14th 2014, 12:43 AM

    A dead language is a language that noboby speaks. Irish is a very minority language, but not dead yet, unbelievably.

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    Mar 14th 2014, 9:43 AM

    This is a Government which never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity to promote Irish. No doubt their missions abroad are important and may yield jobs and investment but they could have avoided yesterday’s debacle with a little forward planning.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 7:05 PM

    Opposition moan bags

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    Mar 14th 2014, 12:18 AM

    Tom I’d say you are a bags yourself a blue bags I’d say.

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    Mar 13th 2014, 8:44 PM

    Say Wallace and Ming have good Irish. Terrible to say that’s what they are arguing over now and the country on its knees.

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    Mar 14th 2014, 10:29 AM

    nuari a fleiceann muid taria labhairt cant ar dteanga fine agus ansin gaire mar gheall air doesent a ra a lan faoi ce ni mor duinn running ar dtir na brit,s havent imithe ar shiul.

    when we see a minster that cant speak our own language and then laugh about it doesent that say alot about whos runing our country the brits havent gone away.

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    Mar 14th 2014, 8:31 AM

    How many of the opposition could ask a question in Irish??

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    Mar 14th 2014, 11:12 PM

    Absolutely disgraceful, should use their St Patrick’s holiday money for Irish classes instead of going abroad. Shameful. Gaeilge Abu.

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    Mar 14th 2014, 11:26 AM

    As FG’s National Campaign Director in the Seanad referendum, I noticed Mr Bruton never once used the word Seanad referring to it always as the Senate. Also he still hasn’t twigged that the government’s new service for the unemployed In-treo is based on the Irish and in interviews he pronounces it as ‘in-tree-o’, and for the government’s new employment scheme ‘Tús’ he pronounces it as ‘tus’! It’s hilarious when a government Minister can’t even pronounce the names of his own schemes properly. As far as I know the Minister is an ex-Clongowes boy – so maybe that explains it. The Jesuits were always intent on producing an English gentleman-type native Catholic ruling class to replace the old Protestant elite. They did a fair job too, didn’t they? … bail ó Dhia orthu. The Christian Brothers on the other hand were a more patriotic type, inculculating FF-type virtues as opposed to the Jesuitical FG ones.

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    Mar 14th 2014, 10:53 AM

    Does anyone have a difficulty understanding what Kenny says on his all too infrequent addresses to the Dail Chamber?
    What language is this?
    Perhaps the vacuous language of political discourse.
    A combination of vague waffle, corporate tongue and doublespeak.

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