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Adopted people 'disgusted' and 'distraught' they might not get their records until autumn 2023

The AAI wrote to people today, confirming further delays.

LAST UPDATE | 9 Dec 2022

ADOPTED PEOPLE SEEKING personal records related to their birth, early life and medical history have been informed that they may not receive the documents for almost a year.

The Adoption Authority of Ireland (AAI) today informed applicants that, based on the current situation, some people will not receive their information until autumn 2023.

In a mass email sent to applicants today, and seen by The Journal, AAI CEO Patricia Carey wrote: “Based on our current resourcing we expect to be able to complete 200 outstanding applications per month with our backlog cleared by early autumn of 2023, if not before.

“This work is a priority for the Authority and we are re-assigning additional staff members to work exclusively on responding to applications.”

Almost 6,000 people have applied to receive their records under the Birth Information and Tracing Act 2022, which came into effect in October.

Under the legislation, adopted people can access their birth certificates, medical records and early life information. The Act also enables people to access this information if their parent has died, and for access by the next of kin of a child who died in an institution.

As reported by The Journal in October, the waiting time for adopted people to get their records and early life information tripled from 30 days to 90 days with weeks of the new service accepting applications.

However, people have now been told they could be waiting almost a year to get access to their records.

‘I’m absolutely disgusted’

Lisa Corr, one of the people who received the email from the AAI today, said she is “absolutely disgusted” with the delay.

She said the initial delay – from 30 to 90 days – seemed somewhat inevitable given the large number of people applying. However, she said the fact that some people will now be waiting several months, and possibly even longer, is “a disaster of monumental proportions”.

“I’m absolutely disgusted but sadly not surprised. This is just the modus operandi when it comes to adopted people in this country. I’m viewed as a reference number, nothing more,” Lisa said.

She has been aware for some time that her biological mother has passed away, so there is no issue in terms of her mother’s privacy delaying her access to documents.

As frustrating as the situation is for her, Lisa said many other adopted people are in a worse position as they have none of their records at all.

She has already received some of her records from Tusla, the Child and Family Agency.

Lisa said the impact of this delay on many people cannot be underestimated. Some of those affected are expressing their upset and anger in online support groups.  

“People are distraught. The stuffing has been knocked out of them. It’s absolutely awful.

These are people who have waited 30, 40, 50, 60 years for information. Some people have been waiting all their lives to get this information.

“The new legislation was supposed to give them full and unfettered access. But it’s the thing again – excuses, excuses, excuses.”

Lisa said the delays are “utterly unacceptable” and could have been avoided.  

She added: “Why were there not more staff employed? Why were they not better prepared? I would like the Minister to come out and explain why this has happened and what he’s going to do to rectify it?”

A spokesperson for the Minister for Children said that Roderic O’Gorman is “acutely aware of the disappointment these delays may cause and wishes to assure people that both agencies [the AAI and Tusla] are doing their utmost to respond to all the applications received within the shortest possible time frame and will continue to keep every person who is waiting for information informed about their application”.

As of 5 December, a total of 5,847 applications for information have been received by Tusla and the AAI, with over two thirds of that total being received within two weeks of commencement.

The spokesperson said that in terms of the almost 6,000 applications received, “it is noteworthy that, since the Department took possession of the archive of the Mother and Baby Homes Commission of Investigation, circa 800 subject access requests applications have been received”.

“This points to the significance of the Birth Information and Tracing Act and the unprecedented demand for the new level of access created by the Act,” he added.

The Journal has contacted the AAI for comment. Tusla, which is helping to run the Birth Information and Tracing system with the AAI, is also experiencing significant delays but a spokesperson would not confirm the length of waiting times when contacted today.

‘The new legislation gave people false hope’

Mary Harney, who also applied for her records under the new system, said getting documents out to people in 30 days would always have been a “miracle exercise”. Mary was not adopted but grew up in an industrial school in Cork.

She is a longtime activist for people who passed through mother and baby homes, industrial schools and other institutions.

She said that she and other campaigners flagged a long time ago that the AAI didn’t have enough employees who specialise in this area to ensure the smooth rollout of the new system.

“We said it’d be impossible to process those kinds of numbers. They’ve known for the last how many years how many of us there are. Processing all those applications in 30 days? No one in their right mind thought that would happen.

“But now telling people they could be waiting a year? It’s ludicrous. It’s really not on. Once again it shows the disregard for us in terms of ignoring what we asked for previously.

“We have nothing against the individual people working in these agencies, but clearly the people in charge have not listened to us or made adequate preparations.”

Mary also noted that if current applicants are being told they might not get their records until autumn 2023, applicants who apply in the coming weeks might be waiting until 2024.

“If people have not applied yet but are thinking of applying in January, how far out will they push it then?”

Mary said that hearing about such a long delay would be difficult at any time of year, but that being informed of the news shortly before Christmas will have an added impact on many people.

“It’s especially difficult at this time of year. People will be wondering if they will ever be able to trace their mothers or their child.

The new legislation gave people false hope. People are getting older and some of them thought, ‘maybe there’s a chance for me to meet my mother or my child this year, that would be the best Christmas present ever’. Their hopes are dashed once again.

Mary is one of survivors who shared her story in Redacted Lives, The Journal’s podcast series about mother and baby homes.

‘The unprecedented level of this surge’

In the letter sent to applicants today, Patricia Carey said that the AAI has “a dedicated team working full-time on processing, checking and managing our 2400+ applications along with responding to phone, post and email queries”.

She stated: “I wish to express my regret, on behalf of the Adoption Authority, that we have not been able to meet our statutory obligation in processing your application…

“While we anticipated a significant surge of initial applications, the unprecedented level of this surge has meant that we will not be able to respond to all applications within the statutory timeframe. I would like to reassure you that the Adoption Authority is fully committed to releasing information to applicants and meeting the statutory timelines, and we are doing everything as an organisation to achieve this.

“We have also received a very large number of queries and appeals from applicants arising from the release of their information.

“We are endeavouring to reply to all of these as, adoptees, those nursed-out, those boarded-out and those subject to illegal birth registration have understandable questions about their information and records. This is important work but is also impacting on the team responsible for release of information.

“As you are aware, applications for information release are complex due to information being spread across hard copy files, letters/memos, databases, and historical bound volumes.”

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    Mute John
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:50 PM

    Don’t tell Tony McGregor

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:52 PM

    Got on a London bus two weeks ago and the driver said they haven’t accepted cash for four years, you can pay with your debit/credit card if it is contactless, you just tap it…….

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    Mute Paul
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:19 PM

    @Fat Face 98: good man, that’s a so called Oyster card, or you can use your visa contactless card here, we have a lot of catching up to do with the times in Ireland.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:56 PM

    @Fat Face 98: yep even out in the wilds of Surrey, London Transport services have tap and go on their buses for at least four years. Most services don’t have Wi-Fi, which clearly shows that getting on a bus is more important than Wi-Fi availability (especially given 4g rollout for UK&IE is already complete)…..

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:00 PM

    @Fat Face 98: Don’t compare the British with the Irish they are only 154 years running trains underground so sure they have made all the transport mistakes we need to learn from?
    No paddy won’t copy Tommy

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 8:31 PM

    @Gareth Cooney: built and often run by Irish, so why not….?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 9:08 PM

    @Paul: you can pay using an Oyster Card or your contactless Debit or Credit Card, sorry but I must be missing your point…..

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:32 AM

    @Fat Face 98: exactly. It’s fuppin ridiculous when it takes 24-48 hours or more to top up your leap card on the app. Rip off Ireland.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 4:24 PM

    @Lynda Ní Mhurchú: the leap card app tops up straight away, can even set it up to automatically top up once reaches a certain amount on card.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:41 PM

    Why aren’t people using leap cards?

    I don’t even live in Dublin and I have one, awful handy to top up and use.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:54 PM

    @Barry Somers: sometimes your card is out of credit and you gotta use cash! Happens to me sometimes, or you forget your card

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:59 PM

    @Barry Somers: I’ve been overcharged several times on it.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:01 PM

    @Cian Rynne: top up on your phone?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:11 PM

    @Cian Rynne: Dublin Bus is a public service. You are entitled to offer your name address and some ID in return for a journey if you have no cash. It’s in the by-law and they cannot refuse you as it is not a private service

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:26 PM

    @Thomas Cullen: no way!

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:27 PM

    @Barry Somers: What of tourists and people that live outside Dublin.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:30 PM

    @Cian Rynne: hook up your leap card to your bank account and it will top up automatically when your balance is under 5 euros.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:31 PM

    @The Girl: You think tourists and those living outside Dublin go to the Dublin Bus HQ to claim their change!

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:15 PM

    @Cian Rynne: I don’t have a leap card but in the event that you forget it can you not store the card in your digital wallet and tap and go from there.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:49 PM

    @Thomas Cullen: no it’s not , if you don’t have a vaild ticket a fixed fare penalty applies.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:34 AM

    @Barry Somers: in a train station maybe but online it takes days to go on your card. Crazy when we have top IT services available in the city.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 7:40 AM

    @The Girl: this is hard to believe now but us culcies have leap cards here aswell

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:53 PM

    Surely that is illegal. Why not just change the fare structure?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:55 PM

    @Colm Ó hAodhagáin: yes i wouldve thought its illegal too?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:19 PM

    @Generation Snowflake: im no lawyer, but that smells like it would be a violation of the sale of goods act?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:40 PM

    @Colm Ó hAodhagáin: should be able to tap with ur debit card like in the uk

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:33 PM

    @Colm Ó hAodhagáin: yeah why not call it 3 euro ffs

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:09 PM

    @John Longmore: yes they should of course only scrap the refunds once they have actually rolled out the cashless / contactless options instead of just saying they are looking coward to it !! , until then it’s disgraceful they can just tell customers they are keeping the millions in over payments , behaving like the protected species they are as usual

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:58 PM

    @Rear Admiral: how is it illegal? Your allowed to travel once you have the exact fare, and have your bus fare ready before you board the bus.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 9:24 PM

    @James Molloy:

    >Your allowed to travel once you have the exact fare

    except that is not what they are saying. its that they dont pay back the excess to the exact fare.

    it doesnt matter that much that if you have 3eur and the fare is 2.85 you lose 15c. but at some time that fare will be 3eur and if you only have a 5eur note they’re screwing you for 2 quid!

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:14 AM

    @Rear Admiral: they are not accepting notes no matter what.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 2:57 AM

    @Dave Hammond: i don’t think there “keeping” your change. As it says around 10% of the change is actually collected. This is money saving and to push people towards leap cards

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 2:57 AM

    @Dave Hammond: i don’t think there “keeping” your change. As it says around 10% of the change is actually collected from HQ. This is money saving and to push people towards leap cards

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:19 PM

    If you want a cashless system you should accept all cards. We don’t live in Dublin we visit once or twice a year and use the bus maybe 4/6 times. We had one leap card but it didnt have credit on it. 2 adults 3 kids nearly €10 a trip for fare, won’t take notes, can’t tap a debit or credit card and exact change only. Such a pain, technology in the dark ages and now an added rip off. The London transport system is so much better. It must seem like we are in the dark ages to Tourists from other countries. Leaves such a bad impression.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:17 PM

    @Siobhan O’Connor: go live in London so!

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:45 PM

    @Rodney Williams: No, just add contactless payments. It’s the same crap. Shannon Tunnel toll doesn’t take cards at all FFS. Tag or cash and unlike the M50 no discount for Tag either.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 11:47 AM

    @Rodney Williams: I don’t want to live in London or Dublin because of traffic and lack of transport, but if Ireland as a country wants to attract tourism for revenue then we have to compete with the likes of London and transport that is in the dark ages doesn’t leave a good impression.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:48 PM

    The leap card is great even if you don’t live in Dublin. But to top up your leap card is an absolute pain. Most shops outside Dublin don’t do it, and if you do it online it’s still a pain because the funds don’t automatically go to the card.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:54 PM

    @Jack: It’s simple with the phone app.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:58 PM

    @Jack: if your mobile does NFC you can use your phone

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:01 PM

    @Jack: What’s a Bus, Jack.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:10 PM

    @Henry: As Barry said, only if you have a supported smart phone which a lot of people may not. It needs NFC and to be android

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:10 PM

    @Henry: I think only on android. Not sure if it works on Apple. It’s a great app though on android.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:33 PM

    @Conor Egan: Apple phones have NFC, but in typical Apple style they only work with Applepay, sums up Apple really, the new age (not invented here) Microsoft

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:11 PM

    @Rear Admiral: it’s more got to with apple getting a percentage of all in-app purchases, there’s several app publishers who don’t have top-up/credit purchase within their IOS apps, same reason you can’t buy kindle books from within the Apple Kindle App.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 10:31 PM

    @Jack: you can download the app and top it up. Funds go onto it straight away

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 10:33 PM

    Not all phones supported @Andy Moran :(

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:03 PM

    Should be able to just tap a debit card at this stage.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:11 PM

    Just an excuse to get in more money rather than reform

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:31 PM

    @Irish Bob: I don’t know anybody who goes to collect their change

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:38 PM

    @Dermot Lane: Thats fine if they happy with that, but this makes it mandantory.
    Why not give the ‘change’ money to charity ?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:20 PM

    @Irish Bob: they do at the moment. Any of the unclaimed excess goest to charity apparently.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 1:10 AM

    @Irish Bob: the article says that instead of change the extra money raised will go to some charity.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 8:49 AM

    @joe: “the extra change will go towards continuing to improve our services”

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 8:51 AM

    @Oisín O’Connor: It also says ““the extra change will go towards continuing to improve our services””

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:47 PM

    Akin to the tolls
    2euro coin on a 1.90 fee
    No change

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:59 PM

    @Quentin Moriarty: all the tolls give change.manned or unmanned.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:09 PM

    @Seriously stunned: No they don’t

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:27 PM

    @Seriously stunned: express lanes no change given

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:27 PM

    @Colin McNamara: You mustn’t drive much. I got 10c back at three different booths tlast weekend.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:04 PM

    @Terrence Edwards: same here but I was in first gear ready to charge when I heard 10 cent drop out. It is a new one to me.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:27 PM

    @Quentin Moriarty: they price the tolls accordingly, so what is €2.90, people throw in €3 out of handiness, and leave the 10c. All those 10cents add up.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:34 PM

    @Terrence Edwards: they do not give you change.
    Look up at the signs before you drive in the next time
    25k made in one county by the 10c non refund

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:19 PM

    @Quentin Moriarty: tips for staff

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:27 PM

    @Quentin Moriarty: drive to the far left unmanned one, the one the trucks usually go to. It gives change. Express lanes don’t.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:43 PM

    @Conor Egan: exactly
    Most use express lanes
    No reason why the machines can’t give the 10c change

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:22 PM

    Why do I get the feeling we’re being short changed here…

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:43 PM

    Couldn’t just use your card like you can in most shops.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:30 PM

    Interesting so if a supermarket or a hairdresser has no change can they keep it and claim rightful ownership of your money ,and renovate there business too make it better ??

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:51 PM

    @John Leonard: point is you wouldn’t go back if they did that. Unfortunately our wonderful semi state thinks they can just take people’s money.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:53 PM

    I used to give me receipts to the homeless when I visited Dublin if I didn’t have change.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:52 PM

    Great. Now that the NTA have become so progressive perhaps they can extend this reasoning to taxis also which are under the NTA’s remit. Next time a passenger offers me €50 for a €5 fare I can apply the same logic. The NTA are a useless shower of robbing c****!

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:02 PM

    @Marc Bryan: do u offer pay by card option?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:10 PM

    @Marc Bryan: The best option for that is to over them their change in 2 euro coins. See how quickly they produce something else then.

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    Mute Dave Cunningham
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:58 PM

    @Marc Bryan: A €5 fare in a taxi? Where do you be dropping them to? The other side of the road??

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    Mute Marc Bryan
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:09 PM

    @Al Madzer: I do.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:00 PM

    @Marc Bryan: good man.

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    Mute ℝ
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:43 PM

    Utterly disgraceful that Dublin Bus doesn’t have a tap and pay facility by now, especially as nearly all banking cards have contactless chips, and they have Wi-Fi services across the network. If you live in Ireland Leap card make sense but not all visitors know about them and actually getting one isn’t seamless either….

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    Mute Paddy Power
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:10 PM

    Now that’s called robbery.

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    Mute Bobby Daly
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:53 PM

    Unclaimed money should go to a charity. Why should Dublin bus be allowed to keep it?

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    Mute andyearley
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:25 PM

    I have never once redeemed a change ticket. And I doubt I am in the minority.
    So it’s not much of a change really. I just do not have an option anymore.

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    Mute Mark McHale
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:28 PM

    The issue is the huge amount of Tourists who use the bus system and don’t have a clue about the weird rules. It’s a disgrace. We need to welcome foreign visitors and make things easy for them to get around , not refuse them after waiting in line.

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    Mute Colm Walsh
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:03 PM

    Leap cards are fine until the practically disintegrate after a few months in your pocket from use. They are shite quality. I’ve had 3 and all of them fell apart and the funds on the card dissappear with them unless you know the card number which wears off within the first few days of use. Cowboys Ted!

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:15 PM

    @Colm Walsh: register it when you get it that way you can claim the balance back if you lose it.

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    Mute talkingsense
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:38 PM

    @Colm Walsh: have my card 5 years and can still clearly read the number. What are you doing to yours that it’s falling apart?

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    Mute halfmanhalftea
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 9:31 AM

    @Darren Byrne: When you contact them to say you’ve lost it they tell you it takes a few days to cancel it. In the mean time some git has found the card and used the credit on it. DB won’t repay you the credit you’ve lost.

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    Mute Sam Glynn
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 4:28 PM

    @Colm Walsh: maybe store your card somewhere better than your back pocket. Learn from your mistakes…. It’s not the cards fault. I’ve had the same card for almost two year, never keep it in my pockets, same with my part and friends.

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    Mute DeFonz
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:20 PM

    Leap Card still not available on apple iphone , ridiculous that half the population are blocked from using their phones,….and it doesn’t sound as if all android phones can get it..

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    Mute Eon Cocker
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:54 PM

    @DeFonz: also prepaid leap bus tickets and bus tickets bought online CANNOT be validated on the bus at the time of journey. They need to be validated in a news agent BEFORE they are used !!! It’s a f****ing disgrace

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    Mute Paddy Walsh
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:17 PM

    @DeFonz: talk to Apple about that for locking down the technology in their phone so much. They’ve basically taken it out of the hands of Leap

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    Mute Dan Morgan
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:38 AM

    @Eon Cocker: and the reason for this is that the Dublin bus ticket machines are so old, they can’t connect to the web to check your cards balance/valid tickets, so to get around this your balance and tickets are physically written on the card. You can also collect your ticket using the app on your phone, or any luas stop or train station.

    Thus is the same as Oyster card in London btw, but that doesn’t fit the “sure we can’t do anything right here, so we cant” narrative.

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    Mute Lynda Ní Mhurchú
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:47 AM

    @Paddy Walsh: how come if you pay into your bank account or your pre pay electricity/ gas or whatever online it goes straight on…apple phone or not?

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    Mute Paddy Walsh
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 10:41 AM

    @Lynda Ní Mhurchú: None of those involve the usage of what is basically an offline wallet feature in the card, so I don’t really see the relevance of the comparison? The realities of leap are that something with connectivity to the central servers and system needs to be able to write to the card in order to put credit or tickets on them, and Android phones’ NFC devices are open enough to developers to support this, where iPhones are more locked down.

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    Mute Will Lynch
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:13 PM

    It’s not like an organization in Ireland to discontinue something before having its equivalent in place.

    It probably made too much sense to introduce contactless debit card payment as well as the leap card at the same time

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    Mute Dotty Dunleary
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:48 PM

    Don’t use the Bus too much and when I go to use the Leap card I forget how much is on it and end up with too much money on it for months!

    Should be an App which shows your balance etc.

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    Mute Sam Glynn
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:18 PM

    @Dotty Dunleary: the leap card app does just that.

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    Mute Dr. Udaya Khandavilli
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:37 PM

    Leapcard app can’t even download in most of the android mobile phones. If you top up in online, again its a big hassle to activate the balance. We need some ‘change’ here!

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    Mute Colm Malone
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 10:07 PM

    If Dublin Bus try to introduce anything new like a new pay system the drivers always go on strike :)

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    Mute ABCD
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:33 PM

    They might want to make it a bit easier to find out how much a fair is so

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    Mute Daniel J Swagrzyk
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:00 PM

    And who keeps the money??

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    Mute Andy Byrne
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:46 PM

    Sure Dublin bus will actually lose money on this, how many unclaimed refund tickets are there?

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    Mute Irish Bob
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:01 PM

    @Andy Byrne: As stated in the Article €5.7 million from unclaimed change receipts in the past six years

    “According to figures released to TheJournal.ie earlier this year, Dublin Bus earned €5.7 million from unclaimed change receipts in the past six years.”

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    Mute Lynda Ní Mhurchú
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:33 AM

    @Irish Bob: busman’s holiday

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 8:51 AM

    @Lynda Ní Mhurchú: Excellent !! .. id say thats where some of it goes alright

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    Mute David Quigley
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 6:43 AM

    Shane Ross decided this. Coins annoy him and the clinking sound they make remind him of poor people.

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    Mute Aindriú Mac Giolla Eoin
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:52 PM

    Can Dublin Bus take Contactless Cards yet ?

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    Mute SkylineSi
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 5:22 AM

    It’s not a refund, it is your change! Why not use contactless NFC point for your debit card instead of messing about with coins in the first place?

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    Mute Krystian Brzezowski
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:12 AM

    What a nonsense. Tell that to the tourist you weird Dublin Bus people. Where can a tourist purchase a ticket for the bus if he wasn’t told beforehand? From where can tourist get a change for the bus? My God will those stupid people in DB ever learn anything? Can they possibly travel to different countries and take some example? Bunch of

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    Mute Allan Mathew
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 9:47 PM

    Part of the Rip Off Ireland process.
    Miserable jack asses

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    Mute Colm Malone
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 9:49 PM

    @Allan Mathew: if Dublin Bus tried to introduce the tap & pay system the drives would probably strike :)

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    Mute David Thomas Martin
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 3:54 PM

    Get a taxi……..

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    Mute Tweeter
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:29 PM

    Omg they are fooking assh*les, I hope they bite themselves in the foot and ppl stop paying cash!!

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    Mute Andy Moran
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 10:36 PM

    @Tweeter: that’s what the aim is! Eventually it will be cashless system

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    Mute Wobbles O'Toole
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:40 PM

    Why not just have debit cart tap machine ?

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    Mute Margaret Kane
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 4:54 PM

    That is called robbing the people

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