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'Here is some s**t for you': Man refuses to apologise for incident where bag was 'thrown' at Govt TDs

It comes after Minister of State Anne Rabbitte and Fine Gael TD Ciarán Cannon had cow dung thrown at them during a public meeting this week.

THE MAN WHO allegedly threw a bag of excrement at Junior Minister Anne Rabbitte and TD Ciarán Cannon has refused to apologise.

On Wednesday, Anne Rabbitte, the Minister of State for Disability, posted on social media that she and Cannon were attending a public meeting in their constituency in Gort, Co Galway when the incident happened.

The meeting was held by Gort BioGas Concern Group, who have labelled the incident as “wholly unacceptable”, adding that it did not reflect the views.

In a statement to The Journal, the group said: “The meeting was an opportunity for all local residents and groups to voice their concerns about the recent decision of An Bord Pleanála to allow the development of a gas production facility adjoining the centre of the town in the face of fierce public opposition.

“Despite the valuable and forthright exchange of views on the evening, the group is aware that a member of the public reportedly caused a projectile to be launched at public representatives in attendance.

“Gort BioGas Concern Group condemns in the strongest possible terms such an act.”

The group added that it was grateful for the attendance of Rabbitte and Cannon, and Independent TD Sean Canney, to “hear the views of the local community on this extremely important issue”.

Speaking to Liveline on RTÉ this afternoon, Joseph Baldwin – the man who claims to have thrown the excrement - said he came up with the idea on the evening of the meeting.

He described the bags as “two, small, little bags” that were zip-sealed and held “dry manure”.

Baldwin told RTÉ: “I just basically tossed it (towards Cannon). I turned around, I went back up, and I turned a bag towards Anne Rabbitte.”

When pressed on whether he threw a bag at Rabbitte, Baldwin replied: “To be honest, I wouldn’t be 100%.”

Baldwin then said: “I went out to Ciarán Cannon first and I said, ‘if you are going to bring shit into this town, here is some shit for you.’”

He also accused the media of “blowing this out of proportion” and claimed it was clear that it was cow dung, as opposed to human excrement.

Baldwin also claimed that “every one” of his neighbours were “100% behind” him.

When asked if he would like to apologise for the incident, Baldwin said: “I didn’t set out to intimidate anyone.

“But the stance I took, I am not going to apologise for it until they apologise for not providing a proper service as politicians to our area.”

He added that he would not be offering any other comments to the media.

In a statement to RTÉ, Minister of State Anne Rabbitte also said she would not be issuing any further comments and that she is liaising with gardaí.

‘Attack on our democracy’

The incident in Galway is being investigated by An Garda Siochana and has been roundly criticised.

Gardaí are to also make themselves available to members of the Oireachtas to offer security advice.

Speaking in the wake of the incident, Justice Minister Simon Harris said an attack on public representatives is “an attack on our democracy” and that such incidents will be “pursued with the full rigor of the law”.

Harris was speaking after Garda Commissioner Drew Harris said he was taking any attacks on a public representative “extraordinarily seriously”.

Speaking outside Government Buildings today, Justice Minister Harris said that “ensuring that public representatives can go about their business on behalf of their constituents in a free and safe way is absolutely essential”.

“One of the great strengths of the political system in this country has always been accessibility to public representatives.

“I’m very satisfied, from my conversation with the Commissioner, that he takes these matters extraordinarily seriously,” he said, adding that any such case “will be pursued with the full rigor of the law”.

“[The Commissioner] and his team have made themselves available to the houses of the Oireachtas to provide advice to any member of the Oireachtas in relation to their own security situation or any concerns that they may have.

“And he will be reiterating today to Garda divisions the importance of that, should a member of the Oireachtas approach gardai for any advice.”

Harris added: “Any assault or attack on anybody in this country is utterly unacceptable and, without commenting on any individual case, that has to be the starting premise for any discussion.

“Of course, any attack on a public representative is not just an attack on an individual, but is also an attack on our democracy, an attack on people going about serving their constituents.

“It’s very important for every member of the Oireachtas to know that if they have any concerns in relation to their own security or safety or that of their staff or family, that local gardai are in a position to provide advice and support and I would really reiterate that point today.”

“It’s also very important for people to know that any such incident, that any attack, that any assault, will be treated extraordinarily seriously by An Garda Siochana.

“The Commissioner, in his conversation with me this morning, was extremely adamant in relation to that.

“It is a core part of democracy, of a free society, that people can move around safely, that people can do their work safely, that people can live their lives safely, that people can feel safe as they go about their job.

“And of course, when the person doing that job is a public representative, it’s not just an attack on them but is an attack on democracy.”

- With additional reporting from Press Association

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    Mute Stevie Doran
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    Sep 11th 2017, 7:17 AM

    Unnecessary hysterics, we all know everything is done on pen and paper in this country, that’s why we have schoolteachers as ministers, won’t affect us for another 50years probably

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Sep 11th 2017, 9:21 AM

    @Stevie Doran: how about the new PPS card that’s not mandatory but obligatory even to make a tax query? All of the information will be kept in America because there’s less protection there? Sounds legit!

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    Mute Gary
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    Sep 11th 2017, 9:22 AM

    @Stevie Doran: I thought we had politicians as ministers. I worked in a bar once when I was in college and have never do so since, am I still a barman?

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    Mute Pat Tobin
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    Sep 11th 2017, 10:06 AM

    @Stevie Doran: at least if someone gets the details for €40 you’d know what it says! Be more efficient than the HSE anyway! Plus as Stevie said f all is digital here so we’ll be grand

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    Mute Michael Geraghty
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    Sep 11th 2017, 10:28 AM

    @Deborah Behan: that’s a lie Deborah. The data is not being stored in the US.

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    Mute David Murphey
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    Sep 11th 2017, 11:34 AM

    @Deborah Behan: “All of the information will be kept in America”

    That’s about the tenth time you have written that, and it has been false every time. How many times do you need to be told?

    All your Twitter data is stored in America and you don’t seem to have a problem with that.

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    Mute Patrick Kearns
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    Sep 11th 2017, 11:38 AM

    @Stevie Doran: The Revenue have ROS, The Gards have PULSE, Social Welfare and Healthcare are similarly digitised. A flippant facetious attitude isn’t going to protect us from cyber attacks.

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    Mute Kal Ipers
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    Sep 11th 2017, 12:11 PM

    @Patrick Kearns: Such ignorance on how data is stored and accessed. Take Pulse for example the minute records are being looked up had a high rate the connection is terminated and locked. Not just speed but volume. That is after getting through the security measures which you do either.
    The amount of monitoring on traffic on such services is huge. Imagine you have a private road and suddenly you see 1000 trucks on it and you can simply block the road, that is what you do. Or you see a car using it way more than anybody else you stop the car and then find out what they are at.

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    Mute Pateen Johncruck
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    Sep 11th 2017, 5:02 PM

    @Gary: Dail bar?

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    Mute Pateen Johncruck
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    Sep 11th 2017, 5:05 PM

    The one in the Dáil? ;-)

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    Mute Simon Palmer
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    Sep 15th 2017, 2:26 PM

    @Deborah Behan: Re your last point: that can’t be done under the new European data protection legislation GDPR, unless they storage company agree to abide by European regulations. So this will either be illegal or the storage company have agree to adhere to forthcoming EU rules. I guess it is the latter.

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    Mute John Campbell
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    Sep 11th 2017, 6:54 AM

    Roll out the usual suspects from State and semi State bodies assuring us that this simply could not happen in Ireland because we are smarter than smart in protecting our ‘systems’.

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    Mute Rónán
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    Sep 11th 2017, 11:05 AM

    @John Campbell: nope calling bull, no government takes lightly the threat of cybercrime anywhere. All they or anyone else can do is try to react quickly to any new threat when it occurs.

    Even countries with far far greater resources than Ireland cannot mitigate the risk. You’re barking up the wrong tree if you’re blaming governments for cybercrime.

    Cybersecurity/Cybercrime is a self fulfilling prophecy. It’s a small community driving wealth on both sides of the equation…..

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    Mute Christy McCarthy
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    Sep 11th 2017, 8:09 AM

    Why are medical records so valuable?

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    Mute Jamie Mul
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    Sep 14th 2017, 11:13 AM

    @Christy McCarthy: They like to know which viruses your infected with, so they can find a backdoor.

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    Mute Davids Levin
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    Sep 11th 2017, 7:13 AM

    Morning all. Good weekend?

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    Sep 11th 2017, 7:51 AM

    Im in bits..thats for free

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    Mute cortisola
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    Sep 11th 2017, 10:26 AM

    It is no cyber-criminals or darkweb looking for our personal data. It is multibillion international companies – insurance brokers, banks or shops who pay for that. Hackers are only middlemen. Why not to point real criminals here ??

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    Mute Donal Martin
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    Sep 11th 2017, 8:10 AM

    Start using blockchain tech

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    Sep 11th 2017, 8:22 AM

    40 euros eh? Hmm new dryer, would i get 10 takers. Who do I talk to?

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    Sep 11th 2017, 2:26 PM

    The password is mam and dads house name or 1956

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    Sep 11th 2017, 11:54 AM

    That all 40 euro? tight B#stards on the dark web

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    Sep 11th 2017, 7:30 AM

    American Social security are not exactly difficult to get.

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    Sep 13th 2017, 4:46 PM

    …..

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