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Public Expenditure Minister Paschal Donohoe says neither he nor his team were aware of any payments to any individuals for the erection or removal of posters in either election.

Donohoe confirms breach of 2020 election rules, says he was unaware of details last week

Taoiseach says Donohoe told him businessman Michael Stone would be making a statement in advance of his Dáil statement.

LAST UPDATE | 24 Jan 2023

TAOISEACH LEO VARADKAR has said he believes the explanation put forward today by Public Expenditure Paschal Donohoe this afternoon in relation to his general election donation declarations.

Speaking to reporters at the Irish Farmers Association annual dinner in Dublin, Varadkar said he spoke to Donohoe over the weekend and the minister informed him that businessman Michael Stone would make a statement explaining his role in the events.

The Taoiseach said the minister said he would then make a statement in the Dáil thereafter.

“I was aware of the sequence of events and what was going to happen at that point in time,” he told The Journal.

He added that at that point the fact that he would resign from the North Inner City Taskforce and the Land Development Agency was not yet known.

“That wasn’t definite at that point,” he added.

Varadkar said Donohoe “was very keen” to make sure that everything was right in advance of the Dáil statements today.

When questioned about what orchestration there was in Government in relation to the sequence of events, the Taoiseach said:

“I had no contact with Michael Stone on this. So there wasn’t any coordination. Pascal handled this matter.”

The Taoiseach said Donohoe called himself, Tánaiste Micheál Martin and Transport Minister Eamon Ryan over the weekend “to let us know what was going to happen and that’s the reasonable thing to do”.

He said it was correct for the minister to speak to the party leaders in the coalition.

“He wanted us to know what was going to happen before we heard about it through the media,” he said.

irish-farmers-association-dinner Leo Varadkar speaking to the media at the Irish Farmers' Association Dinner in Dublin PA PA

The Taoiseach added that he believed Donohoe’s explanation in the Dáil this afternoon. 

Donohoe apologised again in the Dáil for the “difficulties” and the “distraction” from the Government’s work that the controversy around his postering in two general elections in 2016 and 2020 has caused.

Controversy emerged last week over the the minister’s 2016 general election campaign.

Speaking in the Dáil this afternoon, he said that following his statement in the chamber last Wednesday he received a phone call from businessman Michael Stone telling him that a member of his team did recall support being provided in 2020 through the campaign team. 

Stone said in a statement that he provided workers and vans to assist Donohoe during his 2020 General Election campaign.

Stone confirmed that he provided six workers and vans to assist Donohoe’s campaign with hanging posters in his Dublin Central constituency.

Stone, the head of the Designer Group, said that work was carried out by the six individuals over five days, both before and after polling day, at a cost of €972. The commercial value of the vans used totalled €434.20.

He added that Donohoe had contacted him last December to inquire whether or not help was provided in 2020. However, Stone said that he “mistakenly” believed that he had not provided assistance. 

Minister says he was unaware of details

The minister said in the Dáil he was unaware of any of the details contained in Stone’s statement prior to last Wednesday night.

“Despite my best efforts in recent weeks to ensure the fullest account of the support given in both 2016 and 2020 was accurate, an amendment will now be made to my 2020 General Election expenses form to reflect the new information to the amount of €864 for labour and €392.20 for vehicles for support received during the election period,” said Donohoe. 

“As I laid out in my statement to this House last Wednesday I have been undertaking a review of my 2016 General Election expenses over the last few weeks. I also reviewed expenses incurred during the 2020 General Election.

“In seeking to determine the full facts of the matter, I consulted with the local organisation in Fine Gael about any involvement from Michael Stone in both the 2016 and 2020 elections,” he said. 

The minister added:

However, the situation regarding support provided in 2020 was unclear. There was some recollection by my team of support being provided by Michael Stone in 2020 but despite my asking directly a couple of times, Mr Stone’s view was that he had not provided any support three years ago. This was confirmed to me on more than one occasion.

Corporate donation discovered 

In addition, Donohoe revealed today that he is now aware that an unauthorised corporate donation of €434.20 was unknowingly received by Fine Gael Dublin Central.

This was in the form of the use of vehicles, the commercial value of which exceeded the maximum allowable donation limit of €200.

The minister said the Standards in Public Office Commission (Sipo) have been notified of this breach and €234.20, the amount received in excess of the allowable limit, will be refunded to the Designer Group.

“An amendment will also be made this week to my election expenses return to the value of €1256.20 for the work carried out and use of the vans up to polling day,” said the minister.

Donohoe said last week he”aimed to be fully transparent on all details”.

“This was, I believed, the case at the time and the statement I made was an honest reflection of the information I had. 

“It remains the case that when SIPO returns were being submitted in both in 2016 and 2020, they were believed to be accurate, as any postering done throughout the campaigns was not paid for by Fine Gael Dublin Central nor by me. All activity, it was understood, was carried out by volunteers on a voluntary basis,” he said. 

“Let me be clear. Neither I nor my team were aware of any payments to any individuals for the erection or removal of posters in either election at the time of filing election returns to SIPO.

“The vast majority of my posters were erected and taken down on a voluntary basis. This was, we believed, to be the case with regard to the support given by Michael Stone.

“At each point in this, having undertaken reviews designed to determine the full facts, we have always taken the appropriate steps to correct the record,” said the minister. 

Since Thursday, the minister said he has been working to ensure that the information regarding the 2020 General Election is completely accurate.

“I have informed the Dáil of the facts as I have known them to be true at each and every juncture. I again apologise for the difficulties this has caused for my party and the distraction it has caused to the important work of Government. I have always sought to hold myself, and those around me, to the highest standards,” he added. 

“Finally, I would like to say that I deeply regret that this has caused the loss of Michael Stone from the boards of both the Land Development Agency and the North East Inner City Taskforce. Mr. Stone has given his time freely in an attempt to make a difference to the lives of those faced with significant challenges. His experience will be a great loss to both,” said Donohoe. 

When questioned by Sinn Féin’s Pearse Doherty about when he became aware of issues around the 2016 election postering, and why questions in 2017 by the media were dismissed, the minister said he initiated “a more thorough review” of the 2016 campaign, in the aftermath of having received further contact [from SIPO]. 

He said it then became apparent that monies had been paid.

“They hadn’t been paid for me,” he said, insisting again that he was unaware of anyone being paid.

There was a heated exchange between the paid, with the minister telling Doherty: “I don’t know if you’re interested in my answer or my head.”

The minister acknowledged that he did not give the questions raised in 2017 about the issues ‘adequate consideration” and that is something that he regrets. 

Speaking to reporters this evening, the Taoiseach said:

“I think at this stage it really boils down to whether you believe him or not.”

Varadkar said he does believe Donohoe, stating that the minister assumed that the work was happening on a voluntary basis because all the other posters were being put up on that basis.

He added that since the controversy he suspectes all politicians have reviewed their declaration of interests, stating that he had done so in recent weeks and no discrepancies had surfaced. 

Filling in declaration of interest forms should not be a “box-ticking exercise”, he said, urging politicians to be more careful. 

He committed to reforming SIPO powers before the end of the year with new legislation.

Directorship

Earlier today, it was revealed that Donohoe had not declared his directorship of a company while he was still a Senator.

First reported by The Ditch, Donohoe had not included his directorship of a company known as ExSite Politics on the Register of Members Interests while he was in the Seanad in 2009.

However, he did declare his directorship of a company known as ExSite Communications, which he carried out on a “pro bono basis”.

In a statement, a spokesperson for Donohoe said:

“Exsite is a company the Minister was involved in for 9 months 14 years ago. He did not benefit in any way from it. ”

“The Minister has contacted the owner of the company about the matter.”

When questioned about this matter this evening, the Taoiseach said he could not comment as he was not aware of the details. 

Opposition’s concerns

On Friday, Labour’s finance spokesperson Ged Nash said the minister had several opportunities over recent years to clarify the situation but that the first attempt at this was a “hastily arranged press conference last Sunday (15 January) where limited information was provided to the media”.

“The minister now is trying to make the case, and I think he’s failing to do so convincingly at least, that this is a donation that was made to the Fine Gael Dublin Central constituency organisation,” Nash told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland.

“But in fact, in the context of an election, there really is no such thing and the only person who can incur expenditure on behalf of, or authorise expenditure, is the election agent on behalf of the candidate.”

Elsewhere, one of Donohoe’s own colleagues from the government parties queried how he calculated the work carried out for his campaign.

Neasa Hourigan, who represents the same Dublin Central constituency as Donohoe, said the figures amounting to the duties provided “seem slightly low”. 

“It’s  six people and a van and that seems like a very good rate he got,” Hourigan said on RTÉ’s Late Debate on Thursday.

“He’s not only my government colleague but he’s also my constituency colleague so I’m not trying to have a go at Paschal particularly.

“But it is actually a lot, it is a lot of support. and if you’re somebody who’s trying to get elected, we have to keep it a level field. ”

While answering parliamentary questions in the Dáil on Thursday, Donohoe told the chamber that he would make a further statement on the matter at the earliest opportunity.

While the Dáil business committee had the view that it would have been preferable for the statement to have been made that day, Donohoe told the Dáil that he would be unable to make a statement until later.

He since confirmed he will appear again for a further statement and questioning today.

Speaking on RTÉ’s Prime Time on Thursday, Sinn Féin finance spokesman Pearse Doherty questioned whether businessman Michael Stone paid for putting up Donohoe’s election posters in 2020.

Speaking on the same programme, Minister of State for European Affairs Peter Burke said the Fine Gael TD would come forward with all the details this week and called for a proportionate response.

With reporting by Eoghan Dalton, Christina Finn and Tadgh McNally

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    Mute David Corrigan
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    Jan 24th 2023, 6:18 AM

    “Ministers across the Coalition have been asked to back Mr Donohoe despite not knowing what he is planning to say the Dáil this afternoon.”

    Everything that’s wrong with the system here. No accountability whatsoever.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 7:07 AM

    @David Corrigan: where is this quote from ?

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    Jan 24th 2023, 7:23 AM

    @Ciaran: Irish Independent.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 5:44 PM

    @David Corrigan: Remember Varadker’s “WELFARE CHEATS CHEAT US ALL” campaign? Well apparently government Ministers who cheat don’t cheat us all. 54% of us are living from pay cheque to pay cheque and are only one unexpected bill away from financial crisis. Nine out of ten young people don’t expect to ever own their own home. Donohoe is supposed to be a financial wizard as Minster for Finance, the ‘Golden Boy’ of Fine Gael yet his calculations regarding the source of his own finances is murky to say the least. This is why people are outraged by this latest scandal courtesy of Fine Gael.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 6:02 PM

    @Frank Cauldhame: I agree Frank but like every other scandal, he will just shrug his shoulders and go back to whatever he was at. No accountability means nothing will happen. The problem with this country is that the people don’t get outraged enough.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 9:03 PM

    @Frank Cauldhame: excellent point as usual Frank.

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    Jan 25th 2023, 12:36 AM

    @Ciaran: Talk about a comeback on the comments section ciaran! Is the egg still on your face?

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    Jan 24th 2023, 10:38 AM

    Fg in bed with big buisiness. Things haven’t changed since the Moriarity tribunal.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 8:48 PM

    @Paul Power: Six men and a few vans. That’s big business alright!

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    Jan 24th 2023, 9:35 PM

    @Eoin McCarthy: Michael Stone’s company is a client of some of the biggest global construction companies and he’s a property speculator himself. He’s far from a fellow with a few vans and €8.5m in state contracts isn’t nothing.

    For example the single most glaring failure of Paschal’s tenure as finance minister is the continued failure to implement a vacant property tax that’s actually collected and serves as a deterrent. The most obvious measure to ease pressure on the housing crisis and year after year he fails to bring it in. Why? Is it a coincidence benefactor’s like Michael Stone happen to be in possession of vacant properties themselves?

    Dealings like this compromise the integrity of our government and the fact he concealed the connection with Stone not once but twice draws an obvious conclusion.
    The Irish public aren’t stupid and are sick of being presumed to be.

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    Jan 25th 2023, 12:57 AM

    @Rochelle: “how can Influence your decision for these state contracts ? Briefcase full of cash? Some assets somewhere in your name ? “

    Oh no, what I really want is 200€ worth of election postering this election .. lol

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    Jan 25th 2023, 1:02 AM

    @Rochelle: Great last few lines in you Post, the people have been presumed Now for a long long time, GET with the Programme !

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    Jan 25th 2023, 1:49 AM

    @Ciaran: Go to sleep ciaran you’re embarrassing yourself twice on the same article. Nite x

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    Jan 25th 2023, 5:35 AM

    @Ciaran: 13 meetings in Paschals office over 2 years that we know about. You really believe interactions between these guys amounts to 200 brick?
    Lord bless us and save us.

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    Jan 25th 2023, 8:00 AM

    @Ciaran: Businessman Stone scratched Donohoe’s back and Donohoe scratched Stones back. The quid quo pro appointment to the Land Development Agency is what concerns most people considering the current lack of suitable housing nationwide. Did Stone benefit financially from being a board member of said LDA? Well rents are at the highest levels we’ve ever seen and the lack of will by FFG to properly attack this wretched problem is very telling.
    Varadker is too posh to push for housing & health reform and appears to look down his nose at the 54% of people struggling to stay afloat in Ireland. Instead of defending
    Donohoe by deflection can they not just hold their hands up and admit they are wrong?

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    Jan 24th 2023, 8:20 AM

    Well he is the Fine Gael poster boy nothing to see here

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    Jan 24th 2023, 6:03 PM

    @Noel Donohue: why aren’t Sinn Fein putting down a motion of no confidence?

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    Jan 25th 2023, 6:20 AM

    @Aileen Lawlor: because if they did mary Lou would have to resign herself

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    Jan 25th 2023, 7:20 AM

    @Seán O’Sullivan: She probably will have to eventually!

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    Jan 24th 2023, 6:01 PM

    Just like Bertie, a minister for finance with no memory, says it all really

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    Jan 24th 2023, 6:06 PM

    Lessons to be learned “again”

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    Jan 25th 2023, 12:03 AM

    @Derek Doogan: volume 10 and rising.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 7:04 PM

    Damien English breaks the rules, he steps down, Pascal breaks the rules and says “I’m sorry “. Standards!

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    Jan 25th 2023, 6:21 AM

    @raymond flynn: English blatanly misled the council about what properties he owned , and shut be hung by his ankles , paschal got a few posters hung up and didn’t cop the lads were paid and needed to write it on a form

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    Jan 25th 2023, 8:43 AM

    @Seán O’Sullivan: I’d like to know if Stone is a landlord because appointing him to the board of the Land Development Agency during a housing crisis as payback for the election posters asks a lot of moral/ethical questions.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 9:35 AM

    Just go already, why us people put up with this crap I don’t know. Lose his entitled pensions too and anyone else caught don’t care who u are.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 10:58 AM

    @James Johnson: you can’t lose your pension!

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    Jan 24th 2023, 10:44 PM

    @Jjohn Cconway: Yeah…. but you should if you are found guilty of dodgy business. And I know nobody is guilty until proved otherwise. But if the axe falls it should cut off your balls (and pension) :-)

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    Jan 24th 2023, 6:49 AM

    Friendly man with a white van, can’t say no to a little help with posters.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 8:59 PM

    Is it just me or does everyday that goes by varadkars fg looks eerily more and more similar to berties ff ?

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    Jan 25th 2023, 3:33 AM

    @yoloboyz: it’s just you

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    Jan 24th 2023, 5:52 PM

    He must have long finger nails to be hanging on so long

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    Jan 24th 2023, 6:15 PM

    @Noel Donohue: He has done more for this country with his little finger than the whole of the opposition together would do in a lifetime!!

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    Jan 24th 2023, 7:10 PM

    @Chris Gaffney: That wouldn’t be hard !!

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    Jan 24th 2023, 8:55 PM

    @Chris Gaffney: makes it OK then

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    Jan 24th 2023, 9:03 PM

    @Chris Gaffney: so where exactly is his finger?

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    Jan 25th 2023, 10:26 AM

    @Chris Gaffney: “He has done more for this country”

    Exactly what has O’Donoghue done for this country?
    Not for FG now mind nor Vulture funds nor the very wealthy, what has he done for the people of Ireland.
    If he’s the FG poster boy then we really are a bunch of sheep.

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    Jan 26th 2023, 6:25 AM

    @Will: well if you can’t answer your own question you should go to specsavers!

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    Jan 24th 2023, 7:03 AM

    Did Yoda write the Headline?

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    Jan 24th 2023, 8:36 PM

    Spinn Fein waisting time again over a few euros

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    Jan 24th 2023, 8:40 PM

    @David Terry: Yes. They have a few bigger questions still awaiting proper answers!!

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    Jan 24th 2023, 8:57 PM

    @David Terry: wasting even..now not sure if the Spinn Fein was intentional or not..

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    Jan 24th 2023, 6:31 AM

    Build a bridge.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 6:45 AM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: but who will pay for the bridge?

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    Jan 24th 2023, 7:43 AM

    @JustBEERbarry: tax payers as usual!!

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    Jan 24th 2023, 8:55 AM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: Then throw Paschal off of it?

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    Jan 24th 2023, 6:02 PM

    @JustBEERbarry: Maybe there are man with a white Van who will pay, if the get a few
    underhands outs.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 8:50 PM

    @JustBEERbarry: SF can use their money trees if they ever have the stones to lead a government.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 9:36 AM

    Good luck today Paschal, we’re right behind you.

    Sure, we’ll catch you if you fall, teamwork, let’s show them exactly how that works!

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    Jan 24th 2023, 8:45 PM

    They(Politicians) all parties deserve each other. All useless incompetents. It is the hard working taxpayer that will pay the price. No hope I am afraid.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 11:51 PM

    Jaysus, we have people wanting one of our most competent, honest minister and politician to resign over posters worth €1,000. Proportion please people. Bunch of hysterical muppets. Ignore SFs millions in donations and shady support from “good republicans”. FG have easier targets than this guy at least have a go at those guys. I’m beginning to see the value of a benign dictatorship if this is how the electorate act.

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    Jan 25th 2023, 5:39 AM

    @Elrond Rivendell: Thanks for your comment Paschal. Next time, go easy on the plonk and your post might make more sense.

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    Jan 25th 2023, 7:41 AM

    @David Corrigan: Soz David. Not Paschal and not an FG voter either. Just can’t stand the hysteria, double standards and glaring myopia of the comments. Minister should resign over posters. Jaysus.

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    Jan 25th 2023, 10:05 AM

    @David Corrigan: it’s actually Leo!

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    Jan 25th 2023, 6:29 PM

    @Elrond Rivendell: Nice to see a sensible comment rise above the frantic ravings!!

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    Jan 24th 2023, 10:32 PM

    If anyone is savvy enough to look up exsitepolitics old website it’s good for a giggle, Straight from their old site in 2011 on way back machine

    “Welcome to ExSitePolitics’ special offer just for Fine Gael Councillors.”

    “Click here to get started
    1. FG Blue/Gray
    2. FG Light Blue
    3. FG Green
    4. FG Dark Blue”

    Check it out for yourselves

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    Jan 25th 2023, 12:10 AM

    doesnt matter what you think of Paschal, this is no more than a bottom burp in the wind. Its all a waste of time and there are many many other problems that need sorting – housing and healthcare would be a good place to start

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    Jan 25th 2023, 8:50 AM

    @David Corrigan: all I’m saying is this scandal is not going change anything.

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    Jan 24th 2023, 11:02 PM

    Dangle berries the lot of em

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