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    Mute Leonard Annett
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    Jun 2nd 2013, 2:55 PM

    As much as I’d love for it to happen, I don’t expect a United Ireland to come out of this referendum. I suppose it’d be good to see exactly where we are at though.

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    Mute Adrian Martyn
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    Jun 29th 2013, 3:58 PM

    Last time I checked, a significant portion of the population of Ireland (Ulster Unionists) did not want to be part of a united Ireland. Till someone persuades them ALL otherwise, it will remain a day dream.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 2:53 PM

    Yep hold a border poll, it is part of the Good Friday agreement after all.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 2:52 PM

    The Genocide and Partition, without doubt were the gravest evils ever perpetrated on Irish people, both these evils were perpetrated by monsters.

    Partition has held ireland back for nearly 100 years.

    Time for unity, time for prosperity, time for the brits to admit what they did to ireland and our people.

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    Mute Bruce
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    Jun 2nd 2013, 2:53 PM

    Give it a rest….

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:00 PM

    “Give it a rest”

    what a typical free state mentality.

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    Mute Bruce
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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:43 PM

    If people are going to gone on about the past then at least have the balls to balance their statements and mention the genocide carried out by the IRA aka Sinn Fein.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:57 PM

    ” the genocide carried out by the IRA aka Sinn Fein”

    omfg…………….

    The ira killed 800 civilians in 30 years. The brits killed 1600 (ruc, uda, uvf, brit army)

    The brits murdered millions in 6 years and forced millions more to emigrate.

    People like you make irish people sick.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:59 PM

    over 60 fine gael/gardai/mi5 think that the genocide and partition of ireland was a good thing.

    i mean isn’t it time for finegael/mi5/gardai to cut the bull and fly the union jack over there offices.

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    Mute Bruce
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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:27 PM

    You poor blinkered idiot.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:42 PM

    What a load of nonsense Limerick Boy, living in a past that never happened.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:47 PM

    “you blinkered idiot”

    is that it?

    I destroy your stupid argeument with logic, truth and fact and all you can say is;

    “you blinkered idiot”

    What a guy, you must be either a gard or fine gael or both.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:49 PM

    Dave

    ” living in a past that never happened”

    yesterdays injustice is the cause of today’s injustice.

    We must heal yesterday in order to heal today.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:54 PM

    The British did not partition Ireland, the Irish did. Two sectarian states.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:57 PM

    lmao

    bruce and dave sound suspiciously like vincent dolan or paddy lyons.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:58 PM

    eric

    that’s gotta be the most pig ignorant comment i’ve ever heard, even vincent dolan wouldn’t agree with that one.

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    Mute Eric De Red
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    Jun 2nd 2013, 8:13 PM

    How so? Sectarianism in the north, sectarianism in the south. A protestant country for a protestant people in the north and a catholic country for a catholic people in the south. Who built these but the bigots themselves?

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 9:28 PM

    What’s the genocide you are talking about?

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    Jun 3rd 2013, 1:12 AM

    ‘Free state mentality’

    Pull your head out of your 19th century arse will you !

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 2:59 PM

    Good. No problem with finally debating and discussing it.

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    Mute Barry
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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:45 PM

    And if the vote doesn’t go the way SF want, will they finally shut up?

    At the end of the day you can’t force this issue and SF must realise this,

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 9:24 PM

    SF isn’t the only party pursuing an end to partition. The SDLP also seek reunification, as do Fianna Fáil. They are simply a voice for the nationalist community.

    And why do you frame it as “Will they finally shut up?” – Seeking an end to partition is a perfectly legitimate aspiration. Why would they have to shut up about it?

    And Sinn Féin isn’t trying to “force” the issue – They are calling for a border poll, which was a key part of the Good Friday Agreement. I’m not sure exactly how calling for a vote on an issue is forcing it.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 2:53 PM

    Why the point of wasting time and resources in strapped times ?….. as much as most of us in certain sectors of the irish public would like the Island reunited is not going to happen anytime soon what with both the UK and irish economies in crisis… and the southern taxpayer unwilling and unable to take on any more costs

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:01 PM

    Surely at a time of recession and austerity, a new republic makes sense? This would give us an opportunity to eliminate the costs of duplication that come about as a result of partition.

    And since when did you speak on behalf of all Irish taxpayesr? An Irish Times poll in November 2012 showed that people wouldn’t mind paying more in taxes to facilitate reunification. Of course this may not even be necessary with the potential savings unity would bring.

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Boost-for-a-united-Ireland-support-in-new-poll-figures-from-Irish-Times-180974381.html

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:06 PM

    Who’s speaking of behalf of all irish taxpayers ?…. just pointing out common sense and logic not a wish list based on emotion. … do you speak for all irish people ?…..I don’t think so. …. this is a project that needs to be well thought out and include all people of the Island and from my understanding of geography the border area is small and does not represent all the Island and all the traditions here. … in saying all that as nationalist there is nothing more I would like to see than unity

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:10 PM

    Yes, what’s the point of asking the people what they want? We’ll just ask Marcus what he wants. That would spare a lot of resources.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:10 PM

    marcus,

    britain give 12 billion every year to the 6 counties, excluding the cost of the military and police.

    Do you think that the six munster counties get 12 billion from dublin? Dream on if you do.

    It’s lazy bullshit propaganda to say that we can’t afford it. We can.

    Cost shouldn’t prevent anyone from wanting his country united.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:13 PM

    Common sense is an island the size of Ireland NOT having two different health systems, education system, tax systems and currency.

    You’re right though, it is important that all traditions have their say on this, as Gerry Adams said,

    “The Protestant, Unionist and Loyalist people are not going away. And Sinn Féin doesn’t want them to go away. They are part of what we are and we have to get to know each other better, to listen and take heed of what is being said.”

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:23 PM

    Seamus, I’d love to see a United Ireland – I really would. But our Government and senior Civil servants do no understand the definition of cost savings or duplication.

    For example, here in Waterford Hogan – for some inane reason – wants to “merge” the City and County Councils for “cost savings”.

    While keeping the e siting two administrative centres – with ALL their duplication – open.

    It’s straight out of Kilnascully.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:23 PM

    E sitting = existing

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:33 PM

    Lol. .. dream on Limerick boy and good luck paying 80 % taxes towards that end

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:34 PM

    Ah seamus give it a rest and ask the people. .. I’m only one person not the entire Islands

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 2:51 PM

    All Gerry does is complain about how bad the government are in Ireland why would he want northern Ireland to have to put up with them to?

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    Jun 3rd 2013, 10:08 AM

    Could we vote to hand over another one or two counties to the Brits? Louth, Monaghan? Cavan?

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    Jun 4th 2013, 11:01 AM

    Please… No border poll. I can’t stand northern accents…

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:01 PM

    Our ‘leaders’ can’t handle 26 counties, what makes it plausible that they can lead a 32 county republic?

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 5:09 PM

    What makes you so sure they would be our leaders in a 32 county state? Besides, if unification ever came about in our lifetime – I’d envisage some sort of two parliament system with devolution for the north and south – with national concerns being only addressed by the national parliament.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:40 PM

    Do we really want a million orange nuts as part of our nation? No thanks

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:30 PM

    Why don’t the Shinners ask the people of the south whether we want a thirty two county Ireland or not. The may not get the answer they expected
    THE REPUBLIC SAY’S NO !!!

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 5:30 PM

    You might say no but for me, to one day see a united Ireland would be a wonderful thing

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 9:31 PM

    Why so wonderful Alan?

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:54 PM

    Hold the poll, let people have their say. Then do one in the south to see who wants to take on the North…

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:46 PM

    Exactly O’Reilly. More relevant to have a poll here in the south and let’s see how many are bothered even voting. Well down on the list of priorities.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 2:51 PM

    What a load of bull from spinners.

    Imagine if the poll was successful we would have to adopt the same austerity in the south that the shinners have inflicted on the people of the north.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:06 PM

    Is that why the unemployment rate is 8% in the north and 14% in the south?

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:40 PM

    I guess historically the UK taxpayer who has propped the NI economy for decades. .

    Reading between the lines you approve the austerity enforced by SF in the north.
    Too bad SF can’t be honest about it.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:48 PM

    £9b a year pumped into the North by the UK exchequer.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:52 PM

    Honest about what? The northern Executive has a block grant delivered from London. The Tories gave the Executive a smaller block grant. Reading between the lines you seem to think that is Sinn Féin’s fault.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:18 PM

    The GFA contains a provision for a border poll. If you voted in favour of the GFA then you voted in favour of a border poll.

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    Jun 3rd 2013, 12:53 AM

    At the top of the thread it was 12bn – has the Brits pulled out 3bn in the last hour? Looks like an economic withdrawal is happening faster than we thought – stuff the border poll – the Brits will be gone by the morning.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 2:59 PM

    God give it a rest Gerry…

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:38 PM

    Easiest way through all the assertions made above is to have the poll both sides. Then we are dealing in facts not extreme views on either side.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:01 PM

    Won’t happen in our lifetime- a load of mullarkey

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:31 PM

    People said the same about the Berlin Wall…..

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:55 PM

    Very different situations. The overwhelming majority of East Germans wanted unification. The overwhelming majority of people in Northern Ireland have no wish to leave the United Kingdom.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:31 PM

    “The overwhelming majority of East Germans wanted unification”, ah no they just didn’t want their Stalinist country any more. Unification was the cheapest option.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 5:13 PM

    Richard, how do you know this as a fact? The border poll would offer a clear and indisputable figure as to how many support or oppose reunification.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:05 PM

    The shinners showing once again that they are completely out of touch with the rest of the world. The only thing that can be achieved from this is a pile of stirred shit!

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:27 PM

    Did anyone notice the #flegs protests? NO chance this will happen any time soon. There’s a lot more work that needs to be done in the north, before this ever happens.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:58 PM

    It’s a poll, nothing more. You don’t need anything to ask a simple question.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 5:35 PM

    You’re absolutely right Jason. However, I’d question the timing and point of it, given the recent protests. I get the impression that it’s political posturing only.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:14 PM

    Strange, strange timing. Be careful what you wish for, Gerry. Can’t think of a worse time to put such a proposition to the people of the North. Could take the issue off the table for a generation.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:47 PM

    There’s one way we could find out. Some sort of poll perhaps.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:14 PM

    Yes. But you need to be sure you can win a referendum before calling it. Otherwise you have no leverage in calling another one when the electorate might be more disposed towards the cause. I can’t help but think that the Scottish referendum has put Gerry under pressure. If they lose this by the margin the BBC poll suggests, nationalism will be set back, not bolstered.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 10:36 PM

    First of all, this issue is not about ‘Gerry’ or any other individual.
    Second and crucially – where is your integrity? I live in the North, my mum was born in 1921, my father was born in 1917- in a country called Ireland- a very impoverished land for most citizens- but the overwhelming majority of those citizens supported a unified Ireland where divisions between all on these shores would be healed.
    I have a Lithuanian friend whose grandfather was sent to the saltmines by the Russians because he wanted a free Lithuania – she actively admonishes those in her ‘home’ country who bemoan that the price of ‘freedom’ has meant a change in economic circumstances for some – saying ‘How dare anyone equate national freedom and unity with ‘the number of sausages in their fridges….’…….. touché
    The Irish men and women most of us are descended from would shun the pathetic selfishness of many on this site.
    My local town has a 20% population from ‘newcomer’ people – they are more Irish in outlook than many of you. Very obviously if the economy was so impossible to flourish in, then how come so many are coming to our shores and managing to build a good life for themselves and their families. Nothing worthwhile is ever easy, have some courage.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 10:52 PM

    Very well put Doc.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:30 PM

    Have to agree if they wait say another 10 years the argument of the 6 county’s joining a shit economy should be gone and the catholic population will have grown that little bit more up north

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 5:00 PM

    A poll is supposed to be held every seven years after the first one is held. You can ask now and again in 7 years to see how much economic issues influence public opinion on reunion.

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    Jun 3rd 2013, 12:42 AM

    Just to point out that is not so – in actual fact the GFA says that is cannot be held until 7 years have passed. Different thing entirely.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:20 PM

    Let them have their poll. Vast majority in North and South are opposed to it anyway

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 8:16 PM

    Where did you get that ‘statistic’?

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:01 PM

    Fine gael/mi5/unionisty party and there cohorts will be aghast.

    They only want a united ireland under british rule.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:44 PM

    Enda Kenny is a spy?

    Does that mean Barack Obama is a lizard?

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:46 PM

    A plebiscite will be held “where sufficient demand for one exists”. Since we already know that a very substantial majority in the North are I favour of retaining the Union why does Gerry think that his demands are likely to be met. I think this is Mr Adams attempt to remain relevant among a population that have moved on and regard his ilk as throwbacks. The man is desperate to hold on to his Leadership of Sinn Fein as we approach the centenary of the ’16 Rising. It should be recalled that our Northern “comrades” did nothing to advance the interests of Irish Independence all those years ago and simply latched on to the title to give themselves a cloak of respectability for the murder and mayhem they caused. They have little to show for it as there are more today in favour of the Union then before they started the Slaughter.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 5:11 PM

    Firstly I would read a history book if I were you. The Troubles began due to the social issues caused by Protestant suppression of the basic human rights of Catholics. The IRA could exist because nobody gave a damn about Catholics in the North.

    Secondly, the poll is merely to get a clear and indisputable indication of how many support and oppose reunification. Both the UK and the Republic want a unified Ireland but only when it is the will of the majority north and south. SF want this poll so they can work on convincing people that a United Ireland is a good thing peacefully.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 5:57 PM

    Jason
    Thanks for the history lesson. Now let me give you one. Sinn Fein today have no claim of a legal or moral nature to the Organisation that bore that name during the Easter Rising in 1916. You might as well call yourselves the Tea Party for all I care . Our Nations founding Leaders would turn in their graves at the idea that the PIRA/Sinn Fein claimed to be inheritors of their political and military movement. Sinn Fein visited slaughter on easy targets with remote controlled bombs and sniper rifles. They killed civilians up close and carried out genocide along the border to further their aims. As a result of their behaviour they have created the circumstances in which a substantial majority North of the Border want nothing to do with a United Ireland. It doesn’t actually matter what the people of the Republic say in any plebiscite. Ut their wont be a referendum because the terms of the Good Friday Agreement have not been met.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 3:03 PM

    Bear in mind that the journal is young fine gael/mi5′s playground, the comments from these people are not indicative of irish people as a whole.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:44 PM

    Your comments just get more and more delusional. What next?

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:53 PM

    anyone with an ounce of sense knows that the majority of commentators on here are fine gael, guards or both.

    Seems you missed the common sense bus.

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    Jun 3rd 2013, 9:54 AM

    And how do people know that exactly

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    Mute Bluemist
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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:38 PM

    A united ireland ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:29 PM

    Any chance the UK might like Donegal as well? The seven counties has a nice ring to it.

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    Mute Conor McLaughlin
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    Jun 2nd 2013, 5:30 PM

    Piss off!!

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    Mute Steve Hardy
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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:10 PM

    No thanks

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 8:14 PM

    To all Free Staters out there, it does not make economic sense to have 2 separate economies on such a small land mass, What is all the Free State Parties afraid of…oh ye the fact that they collectively abandoned the north to the pogroms of the union!
    Tiocfaidh at la!

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    Mute Adrian Martyn
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    Jun 29th 2013, 4:02 PM

    Keep calling us Free Staters and no one will like you or your poll.

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    Mute Kevin Cooney
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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:28 PM

    Just imagine the situation we would be discussing if Henry VIII had just accepted the normal family values of the time.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 8:11 PM

    I would have no problem with a border poll if there was even a remote possibility of a possitive outcome,but all indications sugest that it would be defeated,it would be far better if both parts of Ireland cooperated on economic matters first before attempting to unitfy the country.

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    Mute John Donovan
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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:59 PM

    Of course we are all assuming that that its Gerry’s flavour of a united Ireland we are talking about. What would happen I’d we voted for a united Ireland within the UK.

    Want a vote? Let’s have some real options but first, is Gerry and his fellow travellers undertaking to abide by the democratic decision of the people if the decision goes the wrong way, or will we be having this over and over again until Gery ans his friends are happy.

    Leave it out Gerry!

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    Mute Steve Hardy
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    Jun 2nd 2013, 4:34 PM

    I miss Patrick Lyons

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 9:31 PM

    We couldn’t afford to take on the north we are broke

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    Jun 3rd 2013, 1:46 AM

    Just wait till the good folks in the north figure out that it will cost them 60 quid for a doctor to look at them for 30 seconds !, see what they think will be best for them and their families then !

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    Jun 3rd 2013, 12:39 AM

    This is why I could never vote Sinn Fein. There are huge issues to be dealt with on both sides of the border, but they concentrate on a referendum that is doomed to failure.

    How exactly are they planning to campaign. If I was a Northern nationalist, I might baulk at saying Yes if it meant losing the NHS.

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:49 PM

    bring it on! gerry wont like the resilt!!

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    Jun 8th 2013, 1:39 PM

    Oh look, it’s a Garda speaking out against the possibility of a United Ireland.
    There’s a surprise…….

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:02 PM

    Excuse my ignorance, but does a border poll amount to a referendum like the one in Scotland?

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 6:28 PM

    Yes very much the same thing, I think the results would be interesting..

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    Jun 3rd 2013, 12:51 AM

    Yea we could use johny evans at the back

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 9:24 PM

    Why wouldn’t they because 4 out of 5 are British ?

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    Jun 2nd 2013, 9:21 PM

    Why don’t they just stay neutral there own identify Northern Ireland leave Britain and forget this 32 county cause it will never happen,if it was going to happen the Irish government would push for it but they don’t want the extra burden,and get a new flag green white and blue sorted

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