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Ulster Bank chief executive Jane Howard appears before the Oireachtas finance committee Oireachtas TV

Ulster Bank to freeze 2,000 active accounts after 'last attempt' to engage with customers

Ulster Bank and KBC appeared before the Oireachtas finance committee today.

LAST UPDATE | 1 Feb 2023

ULSTER BANK HAS said it is confident that it has the resources to “handhold” vulnerable customers towards a new provider by the end of March, as it begins to freeze active accounts.

Around 2,000 active personal accounts will begin to be frozen from next week in what the bank told a committee was “the last attempt to engage with these customers”.

Its representatives said that 5,500 accounts which are receiving social welfare payments are being targeted to move to a new provider in the coming months before the bank’s withdrawal from the Irish market.

Around half of these accounts are in receipt of child benefit, with the other half receiving a broad range of social welfare payments such as pensions.

The Department of Social Protection and the bank are making efforts to engage with customers in areas where the numbers are highest, using social media and advertising campaigns.

Around 800 customers a week are changing from Ulster Bank as their main provider.

“We are going to then get down into very small numbers of customers who potentially are very vulnerable customers,” Elizabeth Arnett, director of corporate affairs at Ulster Bank, told TDs and senators today.

“We’re going to cross reference those with our vulnerable customer team.

“We have individuals assigned across the bank who, for want of a better word, own each individual vulnerable customer, and we’re confident that those resources are in place to ‘handhold’ those customers out of the bank and into another service provider, the majority of whom will be done by the end of March.”

Ulster Bank and KBC appeared before the Oireachtas finance committee today to outline progress in the closing of thousands of accounts in the coming weeks.

Ulster Bank is to close its branches on 21 April this year – more than two years since it was first announced.

Accounts are closed if they have been given a six months’ notice period and there is little activity in their account, and a cheque is sent out to customers with the remaining amounts in their accounts.

In her opening statement, Ulster Bank chief executive Jane Howard said that since November, it has frozen around 126,000 accounts “that we believed customers were no longer reliant on”.

“This is based on less than five transactions in a 31-day period,” she added.

Howard said that when these accounts were frozen, there was no spike in the opening of other accounts, which leads them to “categorically conclude” these are not being used as people’s main accounts.

“We did not freeze or close any known vulnerable customers’ accounts or accounts in receipt of Department of Social Protection Payments,” she said.

Howard added that they are to begin freezing the 20,000 accounts that have gone beyond their six-month notice period from next week, freezing between 2,000-2,500 a week in a “phased, orderly manner”.

This will mean that funds cannot go in or out of the account.

She said: “I think these 20,000 customers, they sort of fall into two cohorts. We’ve got some who have been open with us and said ‘we’re just not going to go until you make us’, and then we’ve got others and we don’t know why they haven’t gone and they’re the ones that were most worried about.”

She said that 91% of Ulster Bank personal current accounts are either closed or have five transactions or less in the past month, and 81% of Ulster Bank business accounts are either closed or with minimal transactions.

Sinn Féin TD Pearse Doherty asked would people be still entitled to redeem cheques that had not been cashed in time.

“So the post could be landing, but it’s landing in a pile in the corner on a table,” he said.

“After six months, as you say, the cheque then is no longer legal tender and wouldn’t be capable of being cashed,” Howard said.

“So we will be opening a trustee account and we will have a record of any customers who haven’t cashed their cheque, and will always have a right to that money.”

She said the vast majority of the accounts that have been closed have balances less than €10, but there are some accounts with more than €10,000.

“We’re not sending out a cheque in excess of €10,000 without doing more track and trace … to make sure you know for fraud and other reasons.”

Howard said that a small group of Ulster Bank employees will be retained in Ireland to deal with complaints, but the majority of colleagues will leave in 2023.

Arnett said that they are informing their staff as best they can when their job will end.

She added: “There’s lots of other opportunities for colleagues and I think we’ve been very open to ensuring their colleagues are thinking along those lines and making sure that they’re availing of all of the additional training and supports.

“We’ve seen one colleague a year ago left to train as a midwife, so there’s lots of different opportunities for people and we’ve been encouraging people to think differently about it.

“But without a doubt, certainty as to when the change will happen is the most important thing for colleagues.”

KBC

KBC Bank chief executive Frank Jansen said that in May 2022 it was estimated that 52,000 of its 130,000 current account holders would need to open a new account or move to a new provider.

He said that it is now estimated the number who need to open an account or move to a new provider is down 50% to 26,000, and that all current account customers have received closure notices.

“Our plan as it looks today is that colleagues will leave over the next two years in a phased way and all our employees will be entitled to redundancy,” he said.

Today’s Committee comes over a year on from the confirmation that Bank of Ireland would acquire almost all of KBC’s performing loan assets and liabilities, as well as some deposits. in a deal worth €5 billion.

With reporting by Tadgh McNally

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    Mute Alan Farrell
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    Feb 1st 2023, 8:13 AM

    Were…you expecting an increase in account activity following the closure of all the accounts?

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    Mute Levante Dublin
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    Feb 1st 2023, 8:21 AM

    No sh t Sherlock

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    Mute Sarah Lou
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    Feb 1st 2023, 11:21 AM

    I just cant…. of course there is a decline…they wrote to everyone and said they are leaving. most of my dd’s wont accept money from the KBC account anymore! I cant think why there would be a decline!!!!

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    Mute Colette Byrne
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    Feb 1st 2023, 10:24 AM

    Want to be asking how BOI, are charging extra to mortgage account holders, they are buying over, if you don’t do direct debit with them.

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    Mute Conrad Shields
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    Feb 1st 2023, 2:21 PM

    @Colette Byrne: Who doesn’t pay their mortgage by Direct Debit?

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    Mute Allora
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    Feb 1st 2023, 5:23 PM

    @Conrad Shields: lots of people. DDs are a scam that many people refuse to use.

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    Mute Sebastian Manka
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    Feb 1st 2023, 6:14 PM

    @Allora: how is it a scam? Any examples?

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    Mute Sal Paradise
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    Feb 1st 2023, 6:28 PM

    @Allora: Anyone lose a tinfoil hat?

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    Mute Stephen Foster
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    Feb 1st 2023, 10:02 PM

    @Allora: Direct debits are a scam?! What are ye on about?

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    Mute Fiona Fitzgerald
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    Feb 1st 2023, 10:55 PM

    @Stephen Foster: All I can think of is that when a person has insufficient funds, they are likely to be charged extra, thus depleting their small account further. It’s a vicious cycle, but perfectly legal.

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    Feb 1st 2023, 1:07 PM

    Other news in ireland, rain is wet.

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    Feb 1st 2023, 12:34 PM

    Who the hell thought this was newsworthy??? Next you’ll report on hotel guest numbers dropped during full lockdown!!! And ye expect people to subscribe for your investigative work.

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    Mute Denis Silver
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    Feb 1st 2023, 9:12 PM

    Social welfare being paid but I wonder is anything actually coming out.
    Some of them must be from accounts of people that have died or not even in the country

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    Feb 1st 2023, 6:37 PM

    “ using social media and advertising campaigns “ – could they not give them a call or maybe they need to call in person to others that need a bit more help .
    Department of social protection me hole .. and as for Ulster Bank ….

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