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Minister urges doctors to lobby drug companies so women can easily access pregnancy sickness meds

Women, doctors and pharmacists have criticised the over-complicated system set up.

WOMEN, GPs AND Consultant obstetricians should not have to lobby drug manufacturers in order to gain easy access to a drug that helps with severe sickness during pregnancy, according to Social Democrats TD Jennifer Whitmore. 

The Wicklow TD said in the Dáil last night that the system set up by the HSE in order for people to avail of the drug Cariban is causing “huge problems” for women. 

Under the current system, in order to get this medication, women have to register and be seen by their consultant, who is the only person who can prescribe the medication.

Whitmore said a pregnant women often does not see a consultant until weeks into her pregnancy, and will therefore have to “put up” with hyperemesis gravidarum (HG). 

“We are talking about people who cannot get off the sofa because they are so sick. They potentially have to look after other children, are not able to work and are not able to afford to go the private route for this medication,” she said. 

Budget 2023 set aside funding of €1 million to facilitate reimbursement of the drug, Cariban, from January 2023. 

Health Minister Stephen Donnelly said he would inquire as to why an initial prescription from a consultant would be required.

This situation has also been criticised by women, campaigners, pharmacists and doctors and then-Tánaiste Leo Varadkar, who queried the move last year

Although women impacted by severe vomiting welcomed the State reimbursement of Cariban, which can cost up to €3,000 over the course of a pregnancy, they also criticised the need for a consultant prescription. 

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In a statement to The Journal, the Department of Health said that the HSE is calling on clinicians, the Institute of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, the National Clinical Programme for Obstetrics and Gynaecology, and other healthcare professionals to encourage drug companies to progress with the formal pricing and reimbursement process in Ireland.

The health minister was not present for questioning on the matter last night, with junior minister Anne Rabbitte instead tasked with responding to Whitmore. 

The minister said that reaching this point has not been straightforward, and explained that Cariban is an Exempt Medicinal Product (EMP) and therefore is not licensed with the Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA) in Ireland.

Only licensed products are added to the formal HSE Reimbursement List in line with the Health (Pricing and Supply of Medical Goods) Act 2013.

Currently there are three products containing doxylamine/pyridoxine, which is contained in Cariban, licensed in Ireland:

  • Xonvea – gastro-resistant tablets.
  • Navalem – modified-release hard capsules.
  • Exeltis – gastro-resistant tablets.

However, the Dáil was told that to date, the market authorisation holder of Xonvea has not progressed the pricing and reimbursement application further with the HSE.

The market authorisation holders for Exeltis and Navalem have also not submitted pricing and reimbursement applications to the HSE to date.

The department said if the circumstances surrounding the three licensed drugs changes, so too could the situation with Cariban, adding:

Of course, if a licensed product was subsequently approved for reimbursement this arrangement could then be reviewed or revised.

Speaking in the Dáil, Rabbitte said:  

“I will call on the drug companies that have the licences for Xonvea, Exeltis and Navalem to put in an application. I am not leaving it to the HSE; I am asking the drug companies to start that process.”

The junior minister said the HSE had advised her that where a drug is not licensed, the expertise of a specialist in the relevant field is necessary to ensure safe usage of it.

If, however, a licensed product, such as the three drugs mentioned above, were approved for reimbursement, the arrangement with Cariban could then be revised, she said. 

In a statement to The Journal, the department said the HSE has no agreement in place with the manufacturers of EMP’s in terms of pricing and supply under the Health (Pricing and Supply of Medical Goods) Act 2013.

Rabbitte told the Dáil: “I feel there is a process being put in place but it is not solving the problem.”

Cariban is the solution for most women with HG, but women do not have the energy to go into a maternity hospital emergency department in order to get a prescription, said the minister.

“I will do one thing first. I will call on the drug companies that have the licences for Xonvea, Exeltis and Navalem to put in an application. I am not leaving it to the HSE; I am asking the drug companies to start that process. That needs to happen,” said Rabbitte who also urged GPs and consultants to find a way to share prescriptions easily in the interim.

“We need to introduce emergency measures that will allow GPs to prescribe Cariban, as they already can, but then allow these women to be reimbursed for it under the drugs payment scheme. The women now impacted by this deserve it, their families deserve it, and it is the least we can do to help them,” she said. 

Whitmore said the Minister of State’s response was “quite a hands-off response’, stating that it can’t be left to the clinicians and the people suffering from HG to lobby the drug manufacturers to put in a reimbursement application.

That is not good enough,” she said, adding that if the health minister recognises there is an issue with licensing and applications being submitted by the drug companies, then the minister should be looking for solutions to help women.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 9:24 AM

    And no doubt the tiger will be destroyed through no fault of his own. Zoos are awful places

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    Sep 20th 2015, 9:40 AM

    I don’t think it would be standard practice to put the animal down in such a case.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 10:05 AM

    I don’t understand why they can’t fire a dart and put the animal to sleep each time they’re going in to clean its enclosure. Perhaps the darts are expensive but how much does a human life cost?

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    Sep 20th 2015, 10:40 AM

    Perth Zoo in Australia is the only zoo in the world that has a program for breeding and introducing Orang-utans back into the wild. Mates there are some terrible zoos with poor conditions but the good zoos are vital for conservation and the survival of endangered species.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 11:06 AM

    I think that might take a toll on the animals health. It’s the equivalent of a general anaesthetic.
    But I would have thought they’d at least shut the animal up in a separate part of its enclosure from the area being cleaned.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 11:49 AM

    Tigers are endangered and, despite being caged, it’s still a wild animal. They’re not going to kill it ffs.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 2:33 PM

    They won’t kill it – it was doing what wild animals do. There was clearly a failure of usual health & safety procedures. It’s eerily similar to what happened in South Lakes Zoo in the UK a couple of years back.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 9:29 AM

    That’s amazing, the second one in a week or so. You’d think people would be more careful in such a dangerous job.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 9:28 AM

    I had a dream last night that I was being stalked by a pride of lions and now this.
    I’m going to be real nice to the cat.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 9:35 AM

    The lions represent the FG and labour party stalking you and hunting you down. you need to confront them

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    Sep 20th 2015, 2:33 PM

    OMG

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    Sep 20th 2015, 10:15 AM

    These big animals should be roaming the wilds with their families and not locked up in zoos.
    We used to bring the kids to the zoo to see the animals as a matter of education and a good day out.
    No need anymore as you can see them up close and personal now in the wonderful nature documentaries!

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    Sep 20th 2015, 10:49 AM

    If they were in the wild they’d be dead. Sad but true.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 11:19 AM

    They would all be grand if humans had left them alone!

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    Sep 20th 2015, 10:33 AM

    Was “#mauled” really necessary for the article?

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    Sep 20th 2015, 10:48 AM

    What else are you going to call it. It’s the right word.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 1:41 PM

    It’s certainly an appropriate word for what happened the ‘boks yesterday.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 3:07 PM

    Smiley, they’re referring to the use of the hashtag #mauled, not the word itself.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 3:31 PM

    People go on about dublin zoo.how great it is etc. Went last week with young daughter for first time in 20 years. Was appalling the size of their enclosure especially the Tigers. Will never set foot in another zoo

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    Sep 20th 2015, 9:29 AM

    Another gruesome case of tiger gang violence in southern hemisphere zoos. It’s a similar scenario to human prisons where gang members, eager to earn their stripes and zoo cred callously attack zoo screws often resulting in death and back slashing.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 9:47 AM

    The Tigers have rights. A dirty protest and hunger strike usually works.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 9:43 AM

    This tiger was a dissident tiger and was in way connected with republicanism.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 1:28 PM

    Another one.

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    Sep 20th 2015, 4:43 PM

    Sure most zoo animals suffer from depression.fact. dublin zoo or any other zoo are no better than them in SeaWorld. Low life’s making millions out of suffering of animals

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    Sep 20th 2015, 12:43 PM

    WHere is the outrage and the mass protests?

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    Sep 20th 2015, 1:27 PM

    They will have to demolish the enclosure because the place will become haunted.

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