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File image of then-chancellor Rishi Sunak and then-health secretary Matt Hancock arriving for a cabinet meeting. Aaron Chown

Leaked messages reveal Matt Hancock hit out at Sunak over ‘Eat Out to Help Out’ Covid scheme

The messages reveal Hancock had serious concerns about the scheme designed to support restaurants, dubbing it the ‘eat out to help the virus get about’.

FORMER UK HEALTH secretary Matt Hancock expressed concern that a flagship Rishi Sunak policy was contributing to the spread of Covid-19 as the latest set of leaked messages reveal how the pair were at odds during the pandemic.

The details emerged in the latest tranche of leaked messages from Hancock, published by the Daily Telegraph.

The messages show Hancock attempting to get the support of Cabinet Secretary Simon Case in challenging the stance of then-UK chancellor Sunak and others over certain pandemic-era rules, with top civil servant Case – who is required to be politically neutral – complaining about “pure Conservative ideology” on the part of one senior minister.

In one message, Hancock also accuses Sunak of trying to “show ankle” to the “hard right” over his Covid-19 stance.

They also reveal Hancock had serious concerns about the Treasury’s Eat Out to Help Out scheme designed to support restaurants, dubbing it the “eat out to help the virus get about”.

One exchange, from June 2020, came as the Government considered how to relax restrictions.

The messages show Hancock wanted cafes and restaurants to keep a register of customers’ details for NHS Test and Trace, urging that guidance would read “should” as opposed to “can”.

The latter phrasing, according to the messages, was preferred by then-business secretary Alok Sharma.

“The language on customer logs has just gone from ‘should’ to ‘can’. Grateful if you can fix – we can’t reverse this at the last minute!” Hancock said.

Case replied: “Alok blocking ‘should’. Will need to fix after this meeting.”

Later, he said: “If Alok mad enough to raise it, PM will probably be clear again.”

Hancock, responding, says the “question I can’t understand is why Alok is against controlling the virus. Strange approach”.

“Pure Conservative ideology,” Case responds.

Sunak, chancellor at the time, is also mentioned in the conversation with Case, describing him as “going bonkers about ‘should’ right now too”.

In another message from October 2020, Hancock appears to hit out at Sunak’s attitude about lockdowns, writing: “What’s Rishi’s dilemma? Whether to stop the virus, or tilt at the party & show ankle to the hard right?”

The exchanges were among more than 100,000 messages passed to the Telegraph by the journalist Isabel Oakeshott.

She was originally given the material by Hancock while they were collaborating on his memoir of his time in government during the pandemic.

Hancock has condemned the leak as a “massive betrayal” designed to support an “anti-lockdown agenda”.

She has insisted the revelations are in the public interest.

Elsewhere, the latest messages show the then-health secretary’s worries about the Treasury-backed Eat Out to Help Out initiative.

The state-backed scheme offered customers a 50% discount, up to £10, on meals and soft drinks on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays as businesses sought to recover from the pandemic.

Concerns have been expressed subsequently that the scheme could have contributed to the spread of the virus.

In December 2020, in a conversation with an aide, Hancock called the scheme “eat out to help the virus get about”.

The previous summer, he had made his concerns clear to the Cabinet Secretary.

He wrote: “Just want to let you know directly that we have had lots of feedback that Eat our to help out is causing problems in our jntervention [sic] areas. I’ve kept it out of the news but it’s serious.

“So please please lets not allow the economic success of the scheme to lead to its extension.”

The paper also published messages showing Hancock and his officials scrambling to save the health secretary’s career after footage emerged of his embrace with aide Gina Coladangelo.

A spokesperson for Hancock said: “There’s nothing new in these messages, and absolutely no public interest in publishing them given the independent inquiry has them all. It’s highly intrusive, completely inappropriate and has all been discussed endlessly before.”

Labour’s Jonathan Ashworth, who represents Leicester South, was among those expressing anger at the messages.

The city faced a lengthy lockdown in response to concerns about rising infection rates in the local area.

The shadow work and pensions secretary tweeted: “So they knew Rishi Sunak’s ‘eat out, to help out’ helped Covid spread.

“They covered it up but the truth is Sunak’s schemes meant more restrictions and a longer Leicester lockdown.”

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    Mute rodrigo detriano
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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:26 AM

    You’re quickly running out of ideas Aaron. Everything you’re saying is true, but it’s nothing new. We all know how useless this Government is. In fact most of us knew this the day they were elected, and the rest of us figured it out a couple of weeks after that!!

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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:10 AM

    Seriously, can any fool go on a populist rant and get published?

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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:21 AM

    Are you happy in your blue shirt O Reilly? Can’t knock the man for speaking the truth.

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    Mute Dublinguy2013
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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:24 AM

    It’s a childish article full of name calling.

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    Mute AggressiveSecularist
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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:28 AM

    I agree. What a stupid and pointless article.

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    Mute O'Reilly
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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:30 AM

    It’s not insightful or objective. It’s a political activist with a vested interest taking a pot shot. It’s a comment, not a column. And Niall, you dont need a blue shirt or any other hue to recognise a populist rant when you read it…

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    Mute Vocal Outrage
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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:38 AM

    A good few of the non- blue shirts are shy about the oul populist rant either, everyone with a vested interest playing the media and the plight of the average Joe on the street completely ignored, all as bad as each other

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    Mute Diarmuid MacSuibhne
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 11:24 AM

    Fine Gael don’t agree that populist or popular opinion is valid in decision making. Not surprising. But don’t expect non-facists to go along with being told what to do with Caesar if they don’t like it.

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    Mute Peter Richardson
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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:44 AM

    Politicians lie with words; bankers lie with figures. They are suitable bedfellows.

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    Mute John Johnson
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    Sep 21st 2013, 9:00 AM

    Articles like this and the poll Do you feel better now that we’re out of recession make it hard to take the Journal as a serious news site, “Journalists” that seem much more interested in putting their own spin on things rather than reporting news or doing any serious investigative journalism.

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    Mute Matthew Donoghue
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    Sep 21st 2013, 11:46 AM

    At least its not the governments spin.

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    Mute Ryan Ash
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    Sep 21st 2013, 5:17 PM

    The biggest spinners aren’t the politicians or their PR people. It’s the journalists who, as intermediary between politicians and the citizens, have the greatest power. Think of all the deliberately written headlines, aimed at provoking an angry reaction, or the quotes which leave out a line or two here and there to provoke a reaction.

    A constant anti-politics is bad for the country as it stops people who could do good from getting involved.

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    Mute Powerabbey
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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:21 AM

    This guy got out at the wrong side of the bed! What a clown!

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    Mute Aisling Brady
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    Sep 21st 2013, 3:25 PM

    Truth hurts!

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    Mute Simon Burke
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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:59 AM

    I normally like Aaron’s articles but this is just a rant. I will say one thing for politicians (across all parties and independents), at least they take their opinions to voters and try to get elected. Calling them all cowards while sitting on the ditch is a bit weak.

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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:28 AM

    @Aaron
    Great article … Keep them coming.

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    Mute Mark O'Leary
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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:33 AM

    Enjoyed this article

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    Mute Alison Finn
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    Sep 21st 2013, 9:18 AM

    The Government that are there were elected by the people. So if the people don’t like them whoever voted for them only has themselves to blame. When people try to stand up and protest or fight against what is going on in this country we all just turn on each other. People need to stand together and say we are not happy with it and will not put up with it anymore. Moaning and doing nothing about it has not worked in the past so why keep doing it?

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    Sep 21st 2013, 10:38 AM

    Alison ! They were elected on there promises to the people . So why would you blame the people . I for one was fooled when enda said not one red cent more would be giving to bondholders

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    Mute Morticia
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    Sep 21st 2013, 10:51 AM

    We have a single party system here so why bother voting at all ? We will be run by the Teachers and Touchers Party no matter what box you tick.

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    Mute Matthew Donoghue
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    Sep 21st 2013, 11:44 AM

    Try voting for DDI they look like they could be a good party.

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    Mute Anthony Carroll
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    Sep 21st 2013, 3:40 PM

    The problem with the voting in argument is simple. We have the choice between bastard no. 1
    Or bastard no. 2

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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:26 AM

    Hurl on the ditch much?

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    Mute John Sherwin
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    Sep 21st 2013, 9:24 AM

    Excellent article. Now how about publishing articles opposing the Seanad abolition and challenging Herr Kenny to come out debate without a back up mob on RTE or TV3. I await a Vincent Browne interview with the Taoiseach

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    Mute Aisling Brady
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    Sep 21st 2013, 3:27 PM

    You shall wait a long time.

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    Mute Donal Hanley
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 9:58 AM

    Kenny on the Vincent Browne show will never happen! Never. Browne is quite mad. His empty chair was stupid in the extreme. His treatment of his panel is frequently rude, aggressive and bullying. He seems to think he is Ireland’s answer to Bill O Reilly. He is deluded. Bill O Reilly is a real talent even if nut fair and balanced.

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    Mute Mike Clinton
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    Sep 21st 2013, 9:01 AM

    Very good article Arron and the government and their loyal spinners are like dieing wasps (angry and will have a go at anybody that disrespects their glorious leaders).
    But the budget and the local elections are looming along with whatever blunders have yet to surface.
    The electorate will be telling this government in no small way what they think of them.

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    Mute Thomas Cooke
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    Sep 21st 2013, 9:38 AM

    Dear Aaron, sorry to read that the ba#£¥+ds have apparently got to you too. I know it’s very difficult not to slip in to a state of fulminating rage and cynicism. In fact it is surprising that we don’t all fall into that state given the way our country has been governed. It is particularly difficult to see the guilty unpunished and the innocent condemned to the consequences.

    It might be easier to GTFOH and emigrate like thousands who have given up hope of our country ever returning to a decent level of economic activity, but like you I’m too stubborn (or even stupid) to take that route.

    Don’t despair too much at the gullibility of us citizens and our capacity to believe the spin and trash that the media channel into our homes. It is an unequal battle of money and cynical psychology vs ordinary hard working people.

    Take some comfort that you have thousands of fellow travellers who are individually striving to rebuild this country in spite of the odds and obstacles.

    Regards

    T

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    Mute Sean Costello
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    Sep 21st 2013, 11:11 AM

    Spot on. Very good article. The attacking blue shirts and red nose posters are to be pitied. Defending the indefensible makes you equally as bad. This country has been ruined. Fg/lab are not helping things. In fact they’re making it worse. No amount of massaging of figures can take away from that but it will help the idiots who vote for these parties to justify their stance.

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    Sep 21st 2013, 10:45 AM

    Politicians are there just to give the illusion that you have choice and democracy. You don’t, you have owners and they are the the people in the background that own everything and control the system. Please lets stop the charade.

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    Sep 21st 2013, 10:59 AM

    Politicians are out to screw us, only the method changes.

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    Sep 21st 2013, 10:42 AM

    The events of the next few years in this country depend on the outcome of the German election and NOT the antics of the school teachers hissing at each other in the Dail.

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    Sep 21st 2013, 9:17 AM

    Not one of your best Aaron but keep them coming.
    And I just looked out the window and the hills ARE blue.

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    Mute Brian O'Sullivan
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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:29 AM

    What’s the obscure law that requires you to say that Christmas is less than 100 days away?

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    Sep 21st 2013, 8:39 AM

    Irony and sarcasm

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    Mute John
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    Sep 21st 2013, 6:22 PM

    Aaron, very good post and very accurate. Keep it going.

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    Mute Maurice Dodd
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    Sep 21st 2013, 10:57 PM

    Pr#$/s come back from their summer alcoholidays in the autumn???

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