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In the first of two separate operations, ’821 Red’ brand cigarettes with an estimated retail value of €1.5 million and a potential loss to the Exchequer of €1.3 million were seized.
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Two men were interviewed and investigations are being carried out both nationally and internationally, according to Revenue.
In another operation that was carried out yesterday afternoon, 12,000 ‘West’ brand cigarettes were seized at Dublin Airport.
A Polish man, 53, was arrested and appeared before Dublin District Court today where he was remanded in custody to appear again next week.
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Ok ok ok…before the usual starts just answer the question!
I’m going to say NO i don’t believe Gerry.
I’m not a fan of SF but you would wonder why this question is being asked? Oh yeah an election is coming.
I believe Gerry. Until he tells me to believe otherwise.
what comment won comment of the week last week?
It’s comical that 41% of shinners believe he wasn’t in the IRA. That’s just hilarious. How delusional can one be?
Regardless of why it is being asked now Tom I’m just asking what people here think. When you look at the other comments,kinda like yours, it is just deflection 80% of the time.
I’m not sure how membership was ever granted or recorded but to think he was not active in the I.R.A for decades is madness.
The vast majority of people don’t believe
Kenny, Martin, Bruton and any member of the parties they represent.
But even the People who don’t believe him. Half of them don’t care. When people are going to the ballot box and voting sinn fein they’re not asking themselves was gerry in the Ira? There thinking about their future and their children’s future.
Half of them DO care too though and that’s important. I’d be in that half.
The other that do care despise sinn fein as a party, are most likely die hard fianna failers and blueshirts. The rest are just genuine floater voters presumably
Charlie I don’t think anyone believes him not even the ones that say they do. That said I agree with others that it’s not the question that needs asking. There are many others.
If SF are elected how are the Gardai suppose to accept a minister for justice who supports the killers of one of their members?
If SF are elected who will be minister for childrens affairs and be making policy decisions on child protection issues?
They are the first 2 I’d be asking.
Chris/Nova. So what do you lads think? We have decided that the majority in politics are usually juggling a few waffles daily and that regardless of the past, at present that particular aspect doesn’t have much more swing vote wise anymore.
Do you think he was active withing the IRA at any time in his past?
He didn’t feel like joining Martin McGuinness, Bobby Storey, Gerry Kelly, Martin Ferris… all convicted/confirmed PIRA members. Fair enough Gerry, you are definitely Taoiseach material.
If their future depends on the fanatical party of a proven liar then they might as well pack their bags now. Or wait until the Southern Electorate realises they put a cult in government and kicks them back out again like they did The PDs, The Greens and Labour.
super..A lot of the new voting generation don’t even know of the troubles. And whatsmore, they are so tied up in their own social networks they couldnt care less. Actually what is good, is that we have generation of kids that don’t see a divide..they just get on and meet and enjoy. Its the older folks that are holding grudges..some warranted, most not. Its about time we all grew up to be 18/19 and get over the things that mean nothing, in the grand scheme of things.
Will you be asking your FF/G/Lab candidate that call to your door why they stood by for decades and not only allowed but sanctioned the institutionalisation of young girls who got pregnant, the forced adoption and the cover up of murder in those institutions? Lets not forget here that there are many people sitting in the Dáil who were in government and turned a blind eye. Will you be asking if any of those people would be in charge of the Dept. of Justice and the Dept of Childrens affair?
The above comment is for Jane.
@ supernova… Yep! Couldn’t give a toss.. I’ll be voting SF, as will all my family
The vast majority are gone Ann. The whole country turned a blind eye, not just the politicians.
It’s a bit more hands on with SF though. Martin ferris collected Garda killers from jail. Gerry Adams appointed his brother as chairman of a SF cumann after he knew he was a child rapist.
No nice way to say it, but 68% of people in the Irish Times Poll think Gerry is a liar !
ok ok ok…..before the usual starts . I’m going to say I don’t care, at least he has a pair, and stood up to the British empire, the shower we have running the Country haven’t a pair between them, shower of Lying b,,tars.
I welcome that fact Jenni it’s refreshing to hear voters not dwelling on past and are thinking ahead. And you’re right it’s the Generation that grew up around the troubles that hold the most unwarranted grudges which always over shadows Any progress with regards to people wanting to move on and equality etc.. More should be done through education systems about voting as there’s still a large portion of young people not interested in voting, not just young but everyone from all walks of life. They hold the key to change if that’s what is wanted from the electorate
So you don’t believe him either Peadar?
and only 12% thought the taoiseach told Fennelly the truth.
you guys try to water it down into some kind of kids game “look at Gerry, showing them all he wasn’t in the IRA, haha, go on prove it”. everyone on the whole planet knows what he was in the IRA, and by denying this he is evading the more important question of whether he was personally responsible for killing people, as part of an “operation”, or giving the go ahead for someone to be shot or punished as part of a personal vendetta. ironically, it is the British secrecy laws that are keeping his role private, but let’s just say no one will be surprised when we find out he led the IRA negotiations as the senior army council member, and he gave the go ahead for the murder of all of the disappeared. And to think you guys blame us for dwelling on the past – you can’t even get past the first part of truth and reconciliation. admit your history, then let us get on with the future.
Diarmuid – It’s just been revealed in a Nationwide Survey , that 90% of Citizens believe that You and Enda are Blueshirts .
Now are you denying it – Tell me – Tell me ???
Not a good enough response Jane – “the majoirty are gone”. As long as one of them is still sitting in the Dáil it very much does matter. And no the whole country is not responsible for what happened in those homes and how dare you try to put that blame the shoulders of ordinary men and women. The government are elected and paid to do a job and that job is to treat every person as equal. Those poor girls were not treated as equal and the poor children who were illegally adopted, murdered and abused most certainly weren’t. Lets face it – Enda Kenny was definitely a politician when mother and babies homes were still in operation in this country so not that many of them have gone.
who’s the longest sitting td in the dail?? Oh! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enda_Kenny
How dare you put words in my mouth. The strangle hold that the Catholic Church had on this country was the reason this was allowed to happen. The whole thing is a stain on our country as as is the child abuse scandal of the catholic church.
I still don’t see how any of that excuses SF for supporting Garda killers and standing by while Liam Adams was in different jobs that allowed him access to kids even though Gerry knew what he was. We’re not talking about 50, 40 or even 20 years ago either. We’re talking mid and late 2000s.
“I’ll be voting Sinn Fein as will all of my family”. Nice of you to decide on behalf of everybody in your family Joan. Sounds like you have this democracy thing really sussed out ???
Jenni, looking at the comments on here, do you think they would let their kids forget about “the troubles” they had to go through supporting Sinn Fein in war torn south Kerry and Tallaght in the 70s!
They are brought up with the grudges for what the British did to Robert Emmett like it happened yesterday. Those of us that actually had to deal with it, are mostly over it. We are the ones that supported the SDLP to have equality without killing our neighbours and friends, we were the ones who were able to have a drink with protestants without wanting to kill them for not minding being British, and they not minding we wanted to be Irish. Thankfully, SF will still only garner a low sub-teen score in the election – the only question we have is how to get the established parties to that level and get some new people and ideas in to drag this country out of the last century.
I actually watched this programme, interesting enough until this bizarre poll came out of nowhere. Unreal. Institutions up north on the brink and we’re subjected to this nonsense. I resent paying my tv licence.
@Tom – no, it continues to be relevant as long as he sits in our parliament & advocates.
I think far more pertinent questions are: When did any of FF/FG/Lab produce a manifesto that they honoured? How have any of those parties protected children, needy, depressed, impoverished? How have they made Ireland a better, safer place to live and raise a family? When have any of them actually kept a promise? When have any of them actually achieved something of substance on behalf of their electorate? When have any of them actually negotiated and delivered on a deal
who cares, Michael Collins was a member of fg and he killed lots of people and is regarded as a hero.
The result doesn’t mean people wont vote for SF, these polls are not representative of the national feeling Just the select RTE D4 type.
4% believe baron adams, this is absolutely hilarious :D
I don’t even believe IN Gerrymandering Adams.
@Cynical – I care.
Michael Collins died 93 years ago.
Adams & SF/IRA are standing up in our Parliament today & lecturing us on what we should be doing.
and the establishment attack is on again everybody wake up sf for next government
Pius Flynn, I never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer. It’s fairly obvious from your comment that spot is held by you.
Aren’t you great though!
There have been IRA men sitting in government since the 20′s. The first Dail was made up of Ex IRA men, members of the officials who have infiltrated left wing politics and institutions are sitting there now, some are collecting state pensions. If the Gardai had any evidence that GA was in the IRA then why don’t they arrest and charge him, instead of a trial by media on the CB show.
I wonder what sanction london will impose on the shinners today. should be popcorn viewing here in the republic
On the question of a Sinn Fein minister of justice the Gardi up hold their oath and constitutional office to serve and protect the democratic will of the electorate. Quite simple really.
the army and the gardai would laugh at SF orders
@Phil
The Good Friday Agreement means that this is not about evidence – this is about fitness for office.
Supernova is bang on the money. Sinn Fein can get into government regardless of what the public think of Gery’s IRA membership or whether they IRA even exist. Fine Gael and Labour don’t understand that the public put them in the job of running the country with the task of getting it back on track. They have failed to get a better deal on the bailout, having realised they couldn’t back out of it, and Ireland is overpaying by €8bn. They failed to drive down the cost of drugs and medical devices. They slashed health budgets instead of reforming, meaning increased mortality especially for the vulnerable. The failed to take on the banks and get them to negotiate with distressed mortgage holders, who instead sold the debt to institutions that led to the eviction of families and a housing crisis. They failed to repeal the 8th amendment in respect to abortion rights. They are responsible for Irish Water. They failed to tax the wealthy for their fair share, instead they go back to the well, which is now well dry, looking for more. Now they plan on fobbing us off with a few bob tax relief. We can’t afford tax reductions unless they are going to increase taxes to the wealthy and stop selling off the silverware.
@Niall
& SF/IRA & their politics of negativity & fantasy economics which follow from their populist positions will do a better job ? No – because the numbers don’t add up. Its easy to be the hurler on the ditch. Much harder to take the pitch.
Ivor, SF have grown from 2% under GA’ leadership, the ‘was he in the IRA’ question is obviously not an issue with the electorate. The biggest issue for most constituents now is how are we going to rebuild a decent society after the FF mismanagement. This tired worn out insistence on rather he was in the organisation or not is not going to put food on the table or pay bills, we have bigger issues that need dealing with.
@Ivor. FG and Labour had their shot and have tried to railroad over the people. We know we have to take some pain to get things back on track but taxation has been weighted towards the have-nots and is regressive, jeopardising more mortgages and the ‘recovery’. Sinn Fein aren’t the ones promising a giveaway to win the election, they are just promising to get FG and Labour out and that is very attractive to most voters at the minute despite the fact that they believe Gerry Adams has lied to them and may not be solid on the finance. If FG were promising to bring in a millionaires tax or a tax band for those on over €100k or a higher capital gains or a tax on financial transactions over €xx million, they would probably shoot up in the polls more than if they promised tax cuts.
Ivor you have some arrogance, you do not get to decide who is our parliament …thankfully
@Caoimhin Actually I do, with my vote, or have you forgotten about the democratic process ?
Oh wait….
The vast majority of people don’t believe Enda Kenny and Joan Burton either.
89% of the Irish people are wrong.
89% of the Irish people keep voting for the same political parties over and over again hoping for a different outcome each time. .Time for a change from FG/FF/Labour. .
Unfortunately it’s never 89% of Irish people Niallers! Half the people don’t even bother to vote!
Give it a rest Hugh. .
Who fcucking cares!?
Jesus wept, get a life Hugh.
It’s his job John. His passion.
but is it his job to be political in nearly every post?
The Gardai, RUC, PSNI, MI5 have great resources put in to investigating this and have found no proof or evidence to back up this claim. Haters are gonna hate no matter what.
I believe he is the political editor Jenni. He is consistent ill give him that.
Hugh, stop reporting on a current affairs from 2 hours ago.
And Hugh should stop coming across like he knows what he’s talking about on TV.
I have to give it to him, for his consistency and loyalty. I nearly passed out when he did an article during the week on another party. After I came through, I read it and actually thought he had been cloned!! ah truth be told, I like Hugh, he definitely gets a debate going, and I love some of the posters comments on here.
A majority of people believe that God exists .. Is the majority correct. . ? I would say they’re nuts but they’re the majority so I’m the one who’s nuts for not believing. .
Yes, yes we know about God, Gerry, the ra but now we know Hugh exists. #justsaying
oh phuck two Andrew Halpins, conspiracy aggghhhhh
Long and good interview with Gerry Adams, Claire out of her depth again. No mention of the problems at Stormont, welfare bill etc just a poll re question that has been asked over and over. Maybe a poll asking if people are sick of the question being asked?
Sloppy and lazy journalism, usual standards maintained.
Gerry has a right laugh at rte :) it’s a game to him.. Out of there debt is right
Yeah the question is asked over and over, and Gerry Adams lies every time. He really doesn’t have much respect for us.
Absolutely correct Kerry, spot on
as the lies continue from SF they lose votes and transfers by the buckets, its perfect karma for them :)
We live in country that is partly occupied by a foreign power.
Name another country that thinks this is ok.??
The man will be remembered for his work in the peace process and not wether or not he was an IRA member.
Nope. He’ll be remembered for this.
Paul, to be fair it is Ireland that is occupying, northern Ireland was part of the uk since the middle ages. they have the status quo (nb: no right or wrong, just the facts that Ireland has only ever been 26 counties since independence)
what about Costa Rica, Hawaii, Alaska and Texas? they were annexed as well. Skåne in Sweden? loads of Ukraine? Scotland are getting on fine-ish? Taiwan? it seems pretty common actually.
If the dup believed that for a second robinson would not have surrendered.
Alien8 . Northern Ireland was always intended as a temporary measure pending unification with the rest of Ireland. .
Agree, Niallers – both Northern Ireland and “Southern Ireland” were part of the UK with the intention of unification as part of the UK. When the Irish Free State (for the whole of the island of Ireland) was declared, the treaty kicked in for Northern Ireland to rejoin the union. Actually there was one day (06/12/22) when both Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland were both members of the Irish Free State, but that was annulled the following day.
I would like to have seen what would have happened if we kept going the treaty way and awaited a peaceful reunification (after the war of independence) before declaring the free state. If we could have convinced Carson that it would not be a catholic state, then he may not have withdrawn NI the next day and let the “Ulster month” expire. But I supposed DeValera was such a pr1ck he wouldn’t even do that. All this trouble would have been averted.
there is no foreign power in the republic. so as your asking im fine with the status quo up north, its a perfect marriage :)
26 = 6 = 32 = Ireland….always was always will be irrespective of what admininistration is in place in any part of this country
Gerry Adam’s performance is a clever one & it’s hard to fault him. Amazingly no one from Hollywood offers him a job as actor!
Why does he still refer to it as a peace “process”?
Surely if he’s telling the truth and the IRA are gone, then there is no more process? Surely we now just have peace?
Well if he said that then he wouldn’t have the threat of interfering with the ‘process’ to hang over anyone who asks him an awkward question.
Legend of the Falls
#gerryadamsmovie
So, you’re happy for the UVF, UDA, etc to carry on, then Barry? Happy for Orange Order marches to go wheresoever they please? It’s a ‘peace process’ because there are two cultures in the North, and they still all haven’t figured out how to co-exist, yet. You have a very simplistic world view if you think that the disbandment of the IRA is the only ingredient for peace.
For the record Watcher, not happy for any terrorist organisation to exist. Hate them all. UVF, UDA, IRA – all of them. So you can pack up your straw man argument and throw it away.
The Civil Rights movement in NI was not only justified and necessary, it was noble and heroic.
The terrorism wasn’t.
They buried a 17 year old kid today, who was disappeared 42 years ago.
Is it simplistic to believe that is wrong?
My argument wasn’t a strawman, Barry. Yours seems to be sailing close, though – “Surely if he’s telling the truth and the IRA are gone, then there is no more process? Surely we now just have peace?” – implies IRA disbanding=peace. Clearly not the case.
Of course, it’s not simplistic to believe terrorism is wrong, but it is simplistic to suggest that the disbanding of one of many terrorist organisations in a jurisdiction should mean that peace is now achieved, while some of the others still exist, and are considered by the security forces to be still active. It’s a process until peace is achieved – i.e. work will continue until every can get along, and there are no more terrorist organisations active in the North – thus, by definition, a process, which will continue for some more years still.
Liar Liar
#gerryadamsmovie
Am I doing it right?
@ Watcher
Continually referring to the “process” as if it is a flimsy, reversible and temporary arrangement which they can back out of at any moment, undermines their credibility and the perception of their commitment to peace.
That’s my point. If they declared that, from the republican point of view, there would never be a return to violence and that they would always uphold the rule of law, that would be something.
But instead they are implying that a return to violence is possible. It’s floated as a threat.
I’m glad the recent killings were condemned by the SF leadership. I’mnot denying there hasn’t been massive progress. But they can do more. They can say more. They can commit more.
Lastly – “So you’re happy for the UVF, UDA to carry on Barry” is the definition of a straw man argument. I have never, ever stated, believed or implied that I was happy about terrorism.
Very well said, about time someone mentioned the other factors of the North.
I’m not going to argue the semantics of a strawman back and forth. The phrasing of your post clearly asserted that IRA disbanding = peace, which it obviously isn’t. If you are saying that this was unintentional, then fine, let it go.
On your other point – until such time as an arrangement exists that allows everyone up North to live together in peace, then there is a process in place to find that arrangement. The phrase “Peace Process” is used by the Gardaí, the PSNI, the Governments of the UK, Ireland and the US – it is the working title of the current arrangement, which is designed to work toward finding a mutually satisfactory scenario for everyone. In fact, Google the term – it is almost universally associated with the progress in Northern Ireland, and is repeatedly floated in trouble spots around the world as what is possible.
As for the rest of your point – they actually have declared all that you suggest – several times, and repeatedly. What more can they do? What more can they say? What more can they commit? – They are never believed. When SF committed to the Peace Process, and the PIRA disarmed, I felt they would be given a fair crack at working towards a peaceful resolution, and I felt it was worth a try. It bothers me that political points are still being scored by constantly pointing the finger. None of the main parties on this island can claim clean hands.
curry my yogurt,, lay off the sauce
curry my yogurt can coke a cola
SF have themselves in a right pickle and the irish population are laughing directly in their faces :D
Such a provocative poll, typical of RTE. Every right-thinking person should be bored stiff of that tired old line of questioning by now, but it’s the gift that keeps on giving for the government and their attendant media
All he has to do is say he was in the IRA and it would be forgotten about in no time.
His ego will never allow it.
He’s worried about getting caught for historical crimes and that’s why he wants this truth and reconciliation committee. I can understand his stance to a degree, but he’s not helping himself.
I really think he would admit it if it were true. I wouldn’t blame him if he was though, coming from that particular time and culture
Don’t tell me you don’t think he was in the IRA Stephen?
I don’t know Magnus, I couldn’t care less either way but he’s denied it for so long and I feel he’s an honest person whatever his other faults so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt
Stephen did you read the transcript from his brothers trial? Honest me hole.
the irish people do care, as reflected in the polls :)
So 89% don’t believe him? Yet his personal ratings are consistently higher than any other politician on the island. Proves that people don’t care Hugh. Just more distractions from the issues people do care about.
No they’re not. He’s less popular than Joan Burton in leaders popularity. His main bastion of support seems to be on these boards.
Yeah Joan Burton has been beating him in the polls for years. Embarrassing.
He plummeted 7 points alone on the back of the Cahill affair. She had a major impact on him,
Do give some links to polls from “years” to support that thesis Diarmuid. Would love to see how that can be the case given that Joany only became leader of the Labour Party 13 months ago. Hardly years!
89% of the daws who watch Claire Byrne Lie. I don’t know who I believe less. Jarry, or loaded rte audiences.
still a manufactured crisis? or has it suddenly got very real for the shinners haha
Thought gerry done remarkably well in his interview. Every question put to him was answered accordingly.. Why is this pointless question were you in the Ira constantly put to him? As he said himself there’s more pressing issues at hand. I would have issue if he was or wasn’t. He’s one of the finest politicians the island has ever had period.
Do you have a big Gerry portrait over you fireplace Nova?
No Cecil the lion stuffed.
Now hang on, a painting of a stuffed Cecil the lion? Or the actual lion?
The lion himself. Gerrys painting is in the kitchen
#Impressed.
Comrade Nova, totally agree, if only more people could join us in the 4%.
curry my yogurt
it was an absolute car crash for gerry, his lies have finally caught up with him
I dont care..now stop asking this stupid question over and over again.
Yeah exactly, we really want to hear what his favourite Disney movie is, and how he gets his beard so neat, stuff like that. The soft-side of Gerry if you will.
Tangled
#gerryadamsdisneymovie
The Queen. #finegaelblushirtsmovie
Clueless II – starring FF, FG & Lab
Dumb and dumber – starring Alan Kelly & enda kenny
the laugh at SFs expense continues :D
could not have happened to a nicer bunch :D
Lie and deny. That’s the content stone of Gerry and Sinn Fein.
*corner
Fairly rattled tonight was Gerry
I thought he handled himself well, Claire on the other hand seemed rattled and grasping at straws, same old questions. Out of her depth
Hahaha what interview were you watching? I haven’t seen him once not able to answer a question. Enda and Co haven’t even got the Balls to do a debate.
What were you watching? The only one rattled was Claire. Last week she failed to deal with racism and this week she resorted to ignoring the big issue in favour of a question that has been asked so many times and most dont care about.
Must have been watching a different show than you Martina.
Everybody from RTE who interviews Gerry has to ask this or FG will reduce RTE’s subsidy. :) You will hear this question a whole lot more from RTE /FG/DOB’s Iris Independent between now and the election.
@martina patten – I think Claire Byrne was badly advised. For someone trying to build a reputation she came across just like Miriam did whenever she tackled Adams or McGuiness, that is,the amateur wannabe journalist that she is! These people are consummate politicians and well beyond the abilities of these ‘celebrity’ media faces! I have never understood why the likes of Pat Kenny or Gay Byrne never mind the lightweights such as Ryan Tubridy, Ivan Yates or the little leaguers such as Miriam O’Callaghan or Chris O’Donoghue ever try to go head to head with Adams or McGuiness (or Mary Lou) because they just end up looking foolishly out of their depths! Seems very counterproductive!
@Niallers
I’m getting bored by the constant reference to DOB.
Seriously, who cares about a mobile phone network licence competition that took place 20 years ago?!
A competition suggests that another party had a chance of winning the competition. . :)
“Seriously, who cares about a mobile phone network licence competition that took place 20 years ago?!”
Wow, just wow, I don’t think I have ever seen a more misinformed opinion on the Journal in all the years I’ve been posting here.
@LesBehan
It was just a bloody mobile phone network licence!
Jayzez Ciarán – Denis has come a long way since his illegal mobile phone licence days. Never heard of Siteserve? GMC Sierra? No….?
isnt it a shame no one believe him :D
Ciarán it made DOB a very wealthy man and allowed him become what he is today.
@jane
And what’s wrong with what he is today?
Great Scott! is it 1990 again? .
I believe him and in him. I think he is a inspirational courageous man and politician. Shot threatened locked up accused over and over agsin.. never charged no evidence ever given to contrary. Only propaganda to shut up the Irish up north and their rights they made up to discredit him. Of all the surveillance phone taps bugging not one dhred of evidence. And he still is working towards continuing peace and for good of Ireland. He could easily have said ah to hell with the lot of ya I hope tto see him as taoiseach.
Ireland would be respected a lot more and wouldn’t be treated like a toy or a lapdog is he was taoiseach
Gerry is not a lapdog, he just trampolines with one.
shame we will never find out super :D
Pointless article.
I’m not a Sinn Fein supporter so I just scrawled down to the end of the comments to confirm,Who I suspected was the author blue Hugh at this stage it has gone beyond a joke regarding the articles he writes.
93% of shinners hate Hugh.
Journalists are not the cause of SF problems. SF are the cause of SFs problems and i personally cannot stop laughing at them :D
The vast majority dont believe ANY POLITICIAN…so why pick on Adams all the time…im no shin feiner,but this is getting ridiculous….
it certainly is, imagine only 4% of the people think he was not an evil terrorist. hang your head in shame gerry
Why wasn’t he in the IRA ?.
Officially he didn’t sign some oath, membership card, or green book or something – as far as I recall that is how he has no problem saying he wasn’t in the IRA, because there is some administrative issue to give him “plausible deniability” when negotiating with the British on the IRA’s behalf.
It’s the lie that grew.
HUGHS D HEAD OFF JOAN BURTON…
I believe him and it takes a lot to convince me.
He’s got a lot more to lose by Denying it constantly. You would of thought for the sake of possible government he’d just admit it. But he’s a man that’s holds his beliefs deeply and is strong about them. I regard him highly for that. I think he’s telling the truth To. Even if he was I couldn’t care
Nova you are delusional
If you say so. You’re obviously easly influenced and don’t question everything.
Think your been abit hypocritical there, don’t you think haha
You could interpret that way. It’s not as if I hadn’t asked myself was he a member of the Ira. But I’ve no doubt he was associated with them.
the public dont believe him and that is all that matters :)
The Claire Byrne Live/Amárach Research …………………………so a propaganda poll in other words.
i have no doubt that adams was in the ira, thats not my issue with this.
there is an election coming, right now all the govt can do is character assassinate their opponents rather than defend and explain their decisions………………….because their record is that bad.
Dear SF
Karma is spelt: Ha Ha Ha
Regards
The 96%
U know that is an opinion poll on the most biased pro government station in western Europe and does not count when it comes to the REAL election agus Sinn Fein abu
Gerry Adam’s pants is on fire
A very clever man, almost visionary. He could never have come so far if he admitted IRA membership yet he could never have brought republicans with him without it. An almost impossible conundrum which he seems to have got around by controlling the IRA from outside. Perhaps it’s the more the case that Gerry IS the IRA not merely in it.
I think he did control it David but I also think he’s lost that control now and that’s why the murders are happening and it’s all falling apart.
stop thinking jane, you aren`t able for it
Yeah you’d like that Pearse. Just nod and smile and don’t ask any ole awkward questions.
nope don`t even smile.
in fact, don`t do anything, anything at all – become an inanimate object, realise your full potential.
and above all else please do not breed.
Can’t debate a topic without the personal jibes? Jackass, not worth my time.
Shinnerbots are getting more vile with their comments as this crisis develops
Hi Jane :) Great nights sleep again :) Cheers!
Frankie Con – A recent poll has confirmed that the majority of the country would rather have a STD than have the compulsive liar Enda as a ‘leader’ -Poor pet!
poor snowflake, reality is just too hard to take for you today :D
The IRA brought the British to the bargaining table. Without them there still wouldn’t be power sharing in the North. So if he wasn’t in the IRA, he should have been.
One thing i learned tonight from the Claire Byrne show, and that is the fact that blue Hugh has an Enda kenny haircut.
that must have been tough viewing for you shinnerbots. the other 96% of the population for it hilarious :D
Connected to the IRA, in the IRA does it really matter now? If he’s lying, the lie has been told so often for so long, he’ll never admit to it and if he’s telling the truth, he’s been telling it all along.
Could his connection to the IRA in whatever capacity prevent him from carrying out his duties as politician? Well to look at recent ex members of the IRA in government namely Proinsias De Rossa, Eamon Gilmore and Pat Rabbitte the answer is no. Just for balance (and at the risk of being accused for the umpteenth time of being a Shinner ) I don’t ever remember interviews with aforementioned about their IRA pasts while they were in government? An ex IRA man was Tánaiste for the best part of this government term.
its the fluidity of his dual roles that people take issue with
But most believe Enda lol…
Just say, totally hypothetically, that Gerry is lying about never being a member of the IRA.
That doesn’t mean for definite that he’s lying about anything else, or would lie again in the future, does it?
He might be one of these people who just lie about one thing, but are totally honest about everything else?
That’s what 59% of Shinners must believe. He only has one lie and everything else is the truth.
Sometimes it’s just better not to open your mouth .. Something about a hole and keeping digging ..
Some day a poll will be conducted asking the question “Do you believe Gerry Adams risked his life to bring peace to our island and take the gun out of Irish politics.” I look forward to voting.
Lol. Or did he support the military wing of the movement, which murdered and maimed thousands of people….
So are you in the 89pc who think he’s lying? Let me guess…. “For Connolly” is in the 4pc who believe him. Of course you are.
Not on RTE FC you will be waiting I fear..interesting 45% of people do not care
only 4% believe your cult, ouch :D
For Connolly whats the margin for error on the 4% :D
Its a little like Bill Clinton’s claim.
Clinton: “I did not have sexual relations with that woman”. (Monica Lewinski)
Gerry: “I was never in the IRA”.
In the Provos?
Except Gerry was quite clear about his association with the IRA, Mick – he has never denied being associated, just being a member. It’s a subtle point, but maybe valid…
The IRA has gone away, the truth commission will deal with all the past including Irish state forces who colluded in many killings and Mi5 agents who operated within Irish politics on both sides of the border during the war for Independence
What I want to know is, what planet are the 1 out of 10 living on..
I Don’t believe politicians
Hilarious that the lady paying Irish Water was an ex RTE employee
96% of people think gerry is a liar. i thought SF was supposed to be the party of the people?
FC was that an election mo chara ?
Is hugh Edna’s love child or does he just want to be enda when he grows up
He’s got this far thinking people believe him. Leave him to it.
I think SF would do alot better without this guy, too much baggage.
He fought long and hard for this country but I think sf are pro EU, We should of stayed an independent country we are losing our common law state to a foreign institution that dictates to us through the muppets we but In charge
Wow Hugh quick of the mark with the article…..you are so efficient
only 4% credibility that must be tough to take :D
Are u so deluded you think that was an election mo chara ? Interesting poll even of a biased slanted nature showed 45% dont care…………………….
Clearly an attempt to sabotage Sinn Fein as they grow in popularity, and I’m not a supporter or a fan. But what politician can you actually believe or trust? Sure they will tell you what you want to hear and then break all promises. Most of them lack morality and are just out for themselves!!
Bit of a dix comment there Dixie…u do have proof i assume
and ye wonder why ye are nosediving
One things is as certain as Gerry Adams is a liar and that is, as soon as the Southern Electorate realises they have put a Cult, SF, in government, then come the next election the Adamsite fanatics will be blaming everyone from securocrats to dissident journalists when they disappear like the PDs, the Greens and Labour….
The so called peace process and sectarian politics of the North won’t save them down South when the people wise up and realise that SF are as corrupt as the rest.
Is this the show that had two water charge cheerleaders on the panel and a RTE employee pretending to be an audience member ?
What’s the big deal anyway does anyone really care. The IRA are not responsible for the collapse of our economy or the homeless,emigration and a lot of important social issues. I would much rather our politicians would deal with the everyday problems of the citizens rather than dream about the past
Should we ban any party that has had links with violence or rebellion in its past? That would rule out the two main parties ff & fg. Are we going to pretend the country was not founded on bloodshed, murder & mayhem because its politically expedient for fg/lab to attack or undermine anything that threatens another term & if the peace process is threatened through this electioneering assault on sf, tough.
the peace process, oh that old chestnut. sorry to inform you but the peace process wont be used as a screen for IRA criminality any longer, the governments will make sure of that :)
I don’t give a flying fu*ck if he is or isn’t they are getting my vote time to try out something new.
How come the queen of England was ever asked are you german
Adams aside. since when did the journal become an advertising platform for Claire Byrne live??
According to Enda and Co
I think the real poll should be do you care if he was in the IRA? The majority obviously do not!
you obviously didnt read the story, the majority most definitely care, hence SFs nosedive in the polls
So what if he was in the IRA, he’s an extremely intelligent man who will be fair, not like the ‘school teachers ‘ we have in power at the moment.. Who, will receive, school master pensions as well as minister pensions while we the ‘peasants’ pay for it.
Between enda kissing babies all week & the monotonously consistent attacks on sf one would nearly think an election was due to be called.
Couldn’t give a flying fuk. I’ll still be voting SF. I’m interested in their future policies not their past.
And in enda kenny and Michael martins eyes and including Joan burton, we are nothing but tax paying peasants..but, never forget, ‘We’ pay their wages, expenses and pensions
The vast majority of people also don’t care he was in the IRA. Just like the vast majority of people don’t care that Kennys original partner in government eamon gilmore was in the IRA. Seriously this is not news.
the poll clearly states that the majority do care that he was in the IRA
So what if he was; he is more of a man than Enda Kenny could ever hope to be and it was him in the majority who brought peace to this Island and long may it last without the interference of the Irish Independent and FG/Labour (and northern Unionist parties including the so called defunct RUC special branch including Geddis) who would rather perish the peace process for political gain and are a danger to society
the electorate seem to have issue with it :)
Dear FC fake account, ps what number are you at YFG social media commentary section you get this article’s first prize for cutting and pasting… maith thu
Much like last week, the Claire Byrne show isn’t a credible source for this statistic. The results of most polls don’t often really indicate very much. Indeed, sometimes they are used to put pressure on the readership in a certain way and influence their opinion.
I would have more respect for Gerry Adams if he stepped down as leader of SF and admitted he was in the IRA because he isn’t fooling anyone.
I can’t begin to imagine how staggeringly inconvenient it must be for those who care about this story and preach how “obvious” it is that Adams was in the IRA, that after four days of questioning on the subject in a psni station this year, absolutley zero evidence was produced and he was released without charge. If you’re the sort of insufferable bore that is so easily led by the media that you just can’t get enough of this “gripping” sort of journalism, then I’d say his release must be the worst annoyance and inconvenience imaginable. My heart bleeds for you. It really does.
4% of people agree with you, ouch
4% agree with me? Really? On what? I didn’t state an opinion on the question after all. 4% think he was not in the IRA, but I only said he was questioned for for days and no evidence was produced and how inconvenient I’d imagine that to be for some people. I didn’t state my own opinion on whether or not he was in the IRA, mainly because I could not give a single, lone, solitary toss. He’ll keep topping the polls one way or another. Tiocfaidh ár lá, Frankie.
4% = tragic :D
Sure you give yourself a patt on the back over that 4% in a meaningless tv show poll and Gerry can give himself a patt on the back at his poll topping 21% share of first preference votes in a general election. Only difference is Gerry now has a job and gets fresh air now and again while you can sit on thejournal.ie in a dark room all day and all night, vegitating. You thrill seeking maverick you.
still no crisis? :D
FC pet TAL
an election coming. lets try get some negativity about sinn féin about. believe him or dont thats your own personal choice, dont make a ridiculous article about it. im neither pro or anti sinn féin but believe me i will be voting for them in the general election. only party that have the peoples best interests at heart, regardless of past or present
shame the electorate dont think so….
Sinn Féin are the largest party in the country, Frankie. lolz.
terrible performance from Adams,he has lost the edge,Byrne tore him to shreds.
FG election strategy is to write articles involving rival parties which will allow party spear carriers to flood the comment section with abusive and derogatory remarks about that party. Expect plenty more of the same up and until the election.
I don’t believe he’s real either….
You’d know an election is coming when this old chestnut gets dusted down again. The public have already made up their mind on his relationship with the IRA, there’s nothing new here. Maybe the media should debate SFs policies instead as most people understand what had to be done/stomached to get peace in the North.
It’s not even necessary to check who’s article this is.
bore off, who gives a fxxk? every party has has ira members. time to move on
Good to see that the Claire Byrne Show is not afraid to tackle one of the really contemporary pressing issues that really matters to people in their day-to-day lives and aren’t focussing on tedious, boring, played out propeganda of absolutely no relevance to people in the here and now, eh? #yawwwwwwn
96% of the electorate think otherwise
What? 96% of people DO think it us a crucially important issue? Really? I must have missed that part of the article there, Frankie.
What sanctions do you think the british government will impose on SF today? do you think the public will ever trust SF again?
As it stands, Sinn Féin are comfortably the largest party in Ireland. The next twelve months will see elections across the island (assembly & dail). Are you seriously that naive that you think they still won’t be the largest party after them?
grab another shovel there shinnerbot :D
FC an opinion poll does not equal the lectorate….please note Sinn Fein are the largest political party on this island per the Local Elections but if u take comfort from irrelevant questions by a biased slanted media organisation
By the way Michael Collins was dead 11 years when Cumann na nGaeladh and the Blueshirts ( supporters of Hitler ) formed Fine Gael….google Fine Gael 1933 and see what comes up….
gerry has always been SF/IRA fluid
The big issue is why were the Ruc,gardai,Irish & British governments happy to see him not convicted of Ira membership.they charged him twice & he got off twice.it only took the word of a chief inspector to get a conviction.ff/fg only have an issue now that sf are a threat
The new Garda Commissioner will need to do End’s bidding or she’ll find herself out the door like the last fella. Enda cannot be seen as the a Blueshirt Taoiseach without his own private police force to put pressure in the disenters. .
people never seemed to pushed about martin…being deputy first minister and all.funny that.
It was always going that way last night were you in the IRA Gerry. Surely the collapse of the northern assembly takes precedent over this long running question that nobody really cares about. It stunk to high heaven rte and hugh with a surprise poll at the end also on it pathetic.
You gotta love the irony,hypocrisy of the comments here…a .bitter East Belfast fascist,,bigot and supporter of unionist and British terrorism in the 6 counties attacking Gerry Adams ,whilst trying to pass him of as a Southerner
The bigger story here is why is the Journals main contributor so ashamed of his unionist,British background …
would the jornal ask the leaders in the north a question like that . when gerry Adams has been pivotal in the peace process for the last 20 yrs along with others. but then you realise an election may be coming up both in the north and south of our island. anything they can do they will do to discredit sin fein. election season is coming
Gerry Adams was never in the IRA, Lance Armstrong never doped, Bill Cosby never raped anyone and Michael Jackson never had plastic surgery. Why is that so hard to believe?
You could say the same for any party leader.
what does it matter? devalera and Collins were both part of the Ira. Dev became president. Many in Labour were in the IRA when in the workers party or democratic left. sure didn’t Charlie Haughey give a load of weapons to them too? The only reason this is being brought up is because SF will keep Ff in third place after the GE and then the soldiers of destiny will have to merge with fg or prop up sf in govt.
A Leo I am having burger
Was gerry a card carrying member of the Ira. probably not (plausible deniability). Was he involved up to his neck I would say yes.
Is this really news?? All politicians lie but Adams takes it to a new level.
and the other 1out of 10 are kidding themselves.
The only thing Adams has to gain from admitting he was the IRA now is a prison sentence. He might be many things but stupid is not one of them.
Why do the vast majority believe? Because they were told to. Over and over and over. I see a new religion being formed, the Gerry in the IRAists. We must respect peoples faiths, we cannot offend.
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