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'Climate needs to be at the heart of all decision-making' - Irish expert

A new climate report has shown that countries’ current plans aren’t enough to reach international targets.

CLIMATE SHOULD BE a central focus of decisions made by both governments and individuals, a leading Irish expert has said.

A major new climate report published today has identified that countries’ current climate plans will likely not be sufficient to keep temperature rises to a minimum, but that the world does have options available to reduce harmful greenhouse gas emissions.

The report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is the culmination of nearly a decade’s worth of research into the physical science of the climate crisis and how to keep it at bay.

Professor Peter Thorne, a climatologist at Maynooth University, is a IPCC lead author and, of the hundreds of scientists who worked on the report, was one of 10 to speak at a press conference today on its release.

In an interview with Irish reporters, he outlined that Ireland is already experiencing adverse impacts of climate change and that decisions must be “climate-proofed” for the future to reduce emissions and prevent further harm.

“If we’re going to play our part, then we must put climate at the heart of every single decision,” Professor Thorne said. “Nearly every action should be climate-proofed for the future if we’re going to reach targets.”

“It’s not just the government – it’s communities and it’s individuals and it’s our choices,” he said, pointing to the abundance of fossil-fuel powered vehicles with large engines on Irish roads as an “alarming” sign of a “lack of understanding by many citizens as to the consequences of their personal decisions”.

“If we continue to make these choices that are climate negative, we double down on the problem.” 

Keeping 1.5 alive?

The new IPCC report confirmed that countries’ collective plans for 2030 make it likely that temperatures will rise by more than 1.5°C during the 21st century and make it harder to limit warming below 2°C.

Those thresholds were set out in the 2015 Paris Agreement, where countries agreed to try to limit warming to no more than 2 degrees and aim for 1.5 to prevent the worst impacts of the crisis.

Professor Thorne explained it is likely that temperatures will pass the 1.5 mark in the early 2030s but whether they remain at that level, drop, or continue to grow depends on action taken now.

“Whether it’s reached and exceeded slightly, or reached and blasted right through and heading towards two and even three, fundamentally depends upon how meaningful our action is now,” he said.

“If we cut greenhouse gas emissions by about half by 2030 globally, if we reach net zero by 2050 and even net-negative for co2 hereafter, then we could limit warming to 1.5 degrees this century and even reduce it by the end of the century a little bit.”

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If strong action had been taken in the 1980s or 90s, “when we knew there was a problem”, there would be far more options available now, Professor Thorne said.

“There are no more excuses not to take action. There haven’t been really for a long time.

“The longer we delay, the fewer options we have, the harder it will be to really try and strive to keep it below 1.5. If we’re going to meet the the aspirations of the UNFCCC and the Paris Agreement that was agreed under its auspices, we really cannot delay any more.”

The differences between 1.5 or 2 or 3 or 4 degrees of warming are exponential; the more that temperatures are allowed to rise, the increasingly worse the impacts will become.

“While the temperature might linearly go from 1.1, where we are today, to 1.5 and from 1.5 to 2, the impacts do not. The impacts scale, very, very quickly,” Professor Thorne explained.

“1.5 is much worse than 1; 2 is much, much, much worse than 1.1; and 3 is getting into potentially cataclysmic scale change,” he said.

“It’s important to stress that that’s why it’s important to keep to 1.5 and not to get to 2 or 3 or 4. The impacts will not scale linearly with the temperature – they will increase very, very rapidly with temperature globally, and that extends to an Irish national context.”

‘The government needs to get serious about plugging the gap’

While some countries, particularly small island nations or least-developed countries, are more vulnerable to climate change than others, Ireland can expect to feel the impacts of the crisis more and more in the years to come.

Projections by the Environmental Protection Agency have predicted more frequent heatwaves, less rainfall in spring and summer and more heavy rainfall events in winter and autumn (which has knock-on impacts for sectors like farming), sea level rise, and increased coastal erosion, as well as flooding and damage to property and infrastructure.

Ireland is already seeing increasing evidence of the impacts of climate change, Professor Thorne said today, from Storm Desmond in 2015 to the heatwave of summer 2022.

The government has adopted legally-binding carbon budgets to regulate the amount of emissions the country can afford to produce up to 2035 and allocated a set amount of emissions to each sector, known as the ‘sectoral emissions ceilings’.

However, the land use and forestry sector – which, depending on how human interact with the natural world, can either be a source of emissions or can store greenhouse gases, preventing them from being released – has not yet been allocated a ceiling nearly nine months later.

Additionally, the sectoral ceilings did not add up to the total reductions that must be made, with 26 megatonnes of carbon dioxide-equivalent (MtCO2eq) left unallocated, prompting criticism.

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Professor Thorne said that the government “needs to get serious about plugging the gap”.

“We need to be honest about the fact that we are almost unique in a European context in having positive net emissions from land use. Nearly every other country in Europe has net negative land use emissions,” he said.

“But we need to do this in a way that is a just transition, that protects farmers, that protects farmers’ livelihoods, that protects rural Ireland.

There are very unique challenges but also opportunities in rural Ireland if we do it right, but it’s got to stop being a bunfight between environmental activists on one side and farmers on the other side.

“Let’s get serious, let’s start having the difficult conversations, let’s find the solutions that are appropriate for rural Ireland – that protect the livelihoods of rural Ireland but also protect our climate,” he said.

“I’m not going to pretend that that will be easy. It’s not a sound bite, it’s a plea to actually start a grown-up conversation where we recognize we have a problem.

Farmers are the custodians of our rural landscape. They do not, I fundamentally believe, want to leave rural Ireland in a worse place than it is today. So how can we get into a serious conversation where we have serious grown ups solutions, and not a war of sound bites?”

The IPCC has pointed out that the world has the necessary tools and knowledge to combat the climate crisis and options available that are feasible, cost-effectively and generally supported by the public, including switching to renewable energy, increasing energy efficiency, improving the management of forestry and grasslands and reducing food waste.

However, there are institutional barriers that must be overcome to implement those strategies at a large scale.

Professor Thorne said that there are “many vested interests who have a huge amount of financial interest in the status quo”.

“We also need to get at the status quo bias of people. Many people cannot imagine change and are scared of change,” he said.

But change can be slow and then incredibly rapid. If you think back to, for example, the 1910s, transport was trams and horse and cart. By the 1920s, it was almost entirely cars. So change can be very slow and then can happen all of a sudden.

“We need to get that change all of a sudden going here. With all of these tools, we need to get people putting up solar panels on their rooftops, we need to get people deciding to take public transport or active transport options and where they can’t, to use the battery electric vehicle – to not have it be a huge vehicle, but a vehicle that actually meets their needs,” he said.

“Thinking about what they’re eating and the consequences of what they’re eating, whether they need to travel to a long distance meeting, all kinds of things like that.

“It’s going to be the sum total of small behavioural changes, but people are scared of the change and we need leaders in communities to show that you can do it.”

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    Mute Awkward Seal
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:28 AM

    Instead of criticising him, how about we applaud the fact he made such an embarrassing admission and is taking steps to correct it. There are many bigots who say things like “AIDS is god punishing the gays”. If you’re in that bubble it’s not surprising that you don’t have all the facts. There is nothing wrong with his proposal to raise general awareness instead of just awareness for most vulnerable groups. The campaign could do both.

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    Mute Seamus Mc Nulty
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:58 AM

    Yes, I agree, however he represents those who vote for him?

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    Mute Ace
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    Nov 30th 2016, 7:53 AM

    Does he also know that men cant get pregnant ?

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    Mute Dessie Curley
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    Nov 30th 2016, 11:35 AM

    They can’t? My belly has been slowly getting bigger for years. What the hell could it be?

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    Mute Uncle Monty
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    Nov 30th 2016, 12:51 PM

    @Dessie Curley: Have you seen the film ‘Alien’?

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    Mute Cillian McCormick
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:13 AM

    The DUP ladies and gentlemen.

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    Mute Ciaran Ó Fallúin
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:32 AM

    @Cillian McCormick: If this is indicative of the DUP, we could do with some of that down south!

    When was the last time you saw any politician or political party admit their flaws and humbly acknowledge their mistakes?

    Stubborn ignorance has been a prevailing mentality for far too long and people throwing stones at his former ignorance, well, their glass houses must be pretty drafty at this point.

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:22 AM

    In this day and age this is quite amazing but fair play. Hopefully it will start a conversation about HIV and sexual persuasions.

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    Mute alphanautica
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:07 AM

    He must be from the Healy Rae school of scientific thought

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    Mute David Murphey
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    Nov 30th 2016, 7:54 AM

    Does he know the Earth isn’t flat?

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    Mute TonyD2469
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    Nov 30th 2016, 7:53 AM

    Wow just wow

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    Mute Matt Donovan
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:15 AM

    Waterford whispers news must be kicking themselves having missed such a gem of a headline. The mind truly boggles.

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    Mute Upowthat Burke
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    Nov 30th 2016, 7:54 AM

    What rock was this guy under the last 20 year…..you can be sure he wasent stuck for company under that rock…….we have the biggest rock in the world looks like in the cabbage patch

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    Mute John Doyle
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    Nov 30th 2016, 7:55 AM

    Wow! More Brains in a Turnip

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    Mute Totalitarian
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:23 AM

    Ignorance personified

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    Mute O-'Seán #IRExit
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:48 AM

    Their party only knows bigotry. So of course he didn’t, not even news.

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    Mute joe o hare
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:12 AM

    Some truth in that very few heterosexual men will get hiv

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    Mute Maurice Bourke
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:14 AM

    @joe Do you have a link for that claim?

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    Mute Colm O'Connor
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:20 AM

    There’s millions of infected heterosexual men infected in the developing world

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    Mute Keith Mitchell
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:28 AM

    It does effect gays disproportionately

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    Mute Anthony Healy Poroloniczak
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:30 AM

    Your comment makes u as ignorant as him

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    Mute Keith Mitchell
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:44 AM

    From the article above: “He argued against an amendment to the proposal put forward by People Before Profit MLA Eamonn McCann. McCann had proposed that the campaign stressed the disproportionate impact of HIV on gay and bisexual men.”

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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:10 AM

    *affect

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    Mute joe o hare
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:55 AM

    @Colm O’Connor: maybe colm but they didn’t contract it by having sex with women.

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    Mute joe o hare
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:58 AM

    @Anthony Healy Poroloniczak: ignorance is a lack of knowledge. So I will pass on some knowledge to you. Men very rarely contract HIV by having sex with women, that is a fact. Feel free to show your ignorance by denying this.

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    Mute Maurice Bourke
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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:01 AM

    @joe please show a link to where you got that information.

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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:26 AM
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    Mute Hugh Mannatee
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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:29 AM

    49% of new cases in Ireland are in the MSM group. Gay men should already know this. It’s not gay bashing to say this. If you are gay and don’t believe this then you are in denial.

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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:35 AM

    @Maurice Bourke:
    There’s lots of studies with but the numbers seem to support the view that there’s less risk for the man in a hetro relationship

    http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv

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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:39 AM

    @hugh @joe. I wasn’t going to accuse anyone of gay bashing. I like to ask for links when someone makes a claim that sounds dubious, nothing more.

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    Mute HOTBank
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    Nov 30th 2016, 1:26 PM

    They do Joe. Any kind of abrasion or damage to skin or mucus membranes is an entry point for for the virus and while it’s less likely that a man will be infected by a woman it can and does happen. Mouth ulcers, STIs, BDSM practices are all additional risk factors.

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    Nov 30th 2016, 11:59 PM

    No you wouldn’t and no she wouldn’t. Be careful out there.

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    Nov 30th 2016, 11:32 AM

    BREAKING NEWS: DUP politician admits to being an ignorant thick.

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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:29 AM

    Oh, dear. Deary dear oh dear..

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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:32 AM

    HIV is a disease?
    I thought it was a trucker license.

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    Mute Paul
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    Nov 30th 2016, 1:53 PM

    In the developed world it is predominantly a gay disease. Lets not ignore the statistics and treat the disease like the common cold, it has made a comeback among younger gay men in recent years.

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    Mute Hugh Mannatee
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:26 AM

    Whenever I hear the word sodomy I get this song stuck in my head for days. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulb0pLBgRCw

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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:38 AM

    What the…..?

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    Mute Hugh Mannatee
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:12 AM

    The film is Meet the Feebles. It was directed by none other than Peter Jackson before he hit the big time.

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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:40 AM

    https://youtu.be/fH_4Zt6kokk The horrors of war and drug addiction.

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    Mute Hugh Mannatee
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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:30 AM

    @jumperoo: Bet you it’s in your head now.

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    Dec 1st 2016, 4:33 AM

    @Hugh Mannatee: Your doing it wrong if it starts playing music?

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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:22 AM

    S#!t kicker

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    Nov 30th 2016, 7:40 PM

    The importance of sex education

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    Mute Val Martin
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:06 AM

    To me this confirms one of my theories. There is a substantial portion of the Irish Population (and possible other populations) and their politicians who are a thick as planks. (more in keeping with the intelect of a crow than a person). They can get to comprehend comflex matters, but it takes them 30 to 40 times as long as me. If there is a particular emergency pushed on them, they will try to figure it out and this can abridge the time womewhat.

    Their financial management system is “hold on to everything with a death’s grip” and try to persuade their relations to leave them goodies in their wills. This DUP one believes the AIDS virus is sexually sellective. I experience the same effect when I try to tell people wind energy is a scam and does not work at all. Its just an illegal subsidy racket. See valmartinireland you tube and the Irish Energy Blog (where I contribute)

    The same in advising people not to buy newpapers and note to vote in elections. Its a fact of life, better get used to it.

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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:18 AM

    @Val Martin: Yeah Val, I know someone who has the same issue when no one listens to him about Dinosaurs existing along side Humans.. It must be frustrating.

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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:49 AM

    Shhh leave him alone and he’ll go back to telling NASA how stupid they are

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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:49 AM

    I heard crows were quite smart Val.

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    Nov 30th 2016, 1:28 PM

    Interesting off topic contribution there Val. But as you have raised it Denmark fares pretty well with wind energy.

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    Nov 30th 2016, 1:10 PM

    Proposing an awareness campaign now he knows straight people can get it too. Ok for the gays to get sick though coz God hates fags.

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    Mute Patrick Gough
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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:52 AM

    It is almost impossible for a man to contract hiv from a woman since there is no transfer of fluid from woman to man. magic Johnson became hiv positive in 1991. since he said he was having sex with different women 3 or 4 times a day he said he got hiv from a women. cut to an expert. “impossible” the expert says. “statistically you’d have to have sex with over a million women to contract hiv” then magic Johnson admitted he had sex with men.

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    Nov 30th 2016, 11:22 AM

    @Patrick Gough: No transfer of fluid from woman to man? What dried up women are you having sex with???

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    Nov 30th 2016, 11:35 AM

    @Donal Martin: I’d say one of the highlights of Patrick’s sex life was when he go an inflatable sex doll for his birthday and immediately fell in love with it.

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    Nov 30th 2016, 12:42 PM

    Don’t you put it in the belly button?

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    Nov 30th 2016, 1:29 PM

    Not almost impossible Patrick. Just more difficult. See my comment in response to Joe O Hair

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    Nov 30th 2016, 3:37 PM

    @ Patrick. I would say something but the stupidity of that comment speaks for itself.

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    Dec 1st 2016, 4:36 AM

    @Patrick Gough: Patrick that is a dangerous thing to believe…

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    Dec 1st 2016, 4:31 AM

    The birds and the bees Bible lesson???

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