You call them scabs, but they are really just people who need to get their shopping done

Plenty of other shops

Plenty of other shops sure, but people who do large shops generally have a routine to maximize their savings, and minimize time spent shopping. Also, people have brands and products they like to purchase, and changing all that is a lot of effort for someone who works full time.

I wouldn’t call then scabs many people don’t know what a scab is or what’s even happening with dunnes. Also many people just shop there because it’s close or convenient. Not to mention dunnes did a massive online sale which many wouldn’t even see as passing the picket, my mother included!

Solidarity with the workers and hopefully our government will pass legislation to end these zero hour contracts.

There is no picket at the moment?

Solidarity with the Dunnes workers. Paying all workers a decent wage is in the interests of the economy and society as a whole. Business wants its customers to have as much money in their pockets as possible to purchase their products and services and generate profits. In contrast, each individual firm wants to pay their workers as little as possible in order to maximize profit.
In the macro economy, the workers ARE the customers and this glaring contradiction is lost on the slavering neo liberals eternally demanding wage cuts and ‘flexibility’ in the labour market.

It’s always aggregate demand and spending through the whole economy that ultimately creates and maintains jobs. Someone’s spending is always someone else’s job and income as the macro economy is circular. It is the aggregate spending of everyone in the economy, public, private, individuals and businesses that maintains and creates employment. We have seen the result of slashed government and private sector spending over the past 7 years of Austerity reflected in our massive dole queues and planes full of emigrants.

Sorry I forgot my inverted commas there. I don’t actually support the dunnes workers and think people are free to shop where they please.

I have not done any shopping there since there employee issues, but can tell you the car parks are as full as ever, IMO I don’t see them suffering with sales because of the strike, I only see the employees gaining ground with dunnes by being on strike, that’s when it cost dunnes sales, and one day strikes will not work, it has to be all out strike until the issue is settled, simple, no other real way of bringing this to closer anytime soon,

Dunnes market share has dropped from 23.8% (1/2/15) to 22%

http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/grocery-market-share/ireland/snapshot/01.03.15/

Wouldn’t want to see it closing,but I won’t shop there until the industrial action is finished and the employees are satisfied

What if the shoe was on the other foot joe.

@Ray I’d probably look elsewhere for an employer who provides everything I want.

Enough of the essays AAA!

I was in a fairly big dunes yesterday at about 5 o clock and it was very quiet I can only imagine if the workers weren’t striking how busy they’d be

Joe does such an employer exist.

Will the aaa nationalise Dunnes, waffler?

Will the blueshirts sell our water network to Denis O Brien Jayo?

There is no excuse whatsoever to pass a picket .

Waddler, it sounds almost as if you believe the money multiplier is a real thing in your above essay, but surely not because if that were the case printing as much money as we could ever want would have a detrimental effect on the value of the currency. If I didn’t know better, I’d say you’re contradicting yourself.

No contradiction Egg. The money multiplier is a concept of fractional reserve banking which itself is an incorrect understanding of how the banking system works. Fractional reserve argues that bank lending to business and individuals is limited by the central bank reserves which the commercial bank holds. It isn’t. The banks will lend money to anyone they believe will pay them back and then seek the necessary reserves after the fact which the central bank is effectively obliged to provide.

As explained to you previously. The point at which inflation rises depends on the availability of real resources (goods & services) versus the actual demand for purchase. In other words, the creation of new money is not in itself inflationary if there is sufficient real wealth (goods & services) to buy with that new money. This is especially true if the new money is directed to the productive sectors of the economy for example through infrastructural improvement which leads to GDP growth and so more availability of real resources to purchase.

The modern economy is characterized by an excess of production so there are rarely any shortages of goods & service available for purchase and so significant general inflation is not a concern.

And how do we measure that demand for goods and services?

I won’t pass the picket if they are on strike but they aren’t at the moment and surely not shopping there until the whole affair only damages the workers and your pocket. The reason they are doing so well can be put down to the 10 voucher for every 50 spent, as a consumer it’s hard to justify shopping elsewhere, including the Germans, with that offer. They even had the manager on a till in the one i go to a few weeks ago it was so busy.

You tell me Egg. I’ve already corrected one misunderstanding of yours today and am not obliged to fill in the all the gaps in your comprehension of the macro economy.

AAA jumping on anything that moves now in an effort to stop people forgetting who they are. The tide has firmly turned on the looney lefties. People have seen through their boring drivel. The spoofing has caught up with them

You didn’t correct anything, the money multiplier exists with or without fractional reserve banking, I just let it slide. Do you know how demand is measured?

Don’t let it slide Egg, I’m interested to hear your description of the money multiplier?

Waffler, answer his question. Stop deflecting your ignorance.

Protect Capital,

Any comments on your budy Denis O Brien & Siteserv deal?
I’ve copied and pasted the details below to help jog your memory.

“On March 15, 2012, Denis O’Brien – through his Isle of Man-based acquisition vehicle, Millington – bought Siteserv for €45.4million cash from the IBRC, formerly known as Anglo Irish Bank.
Law firm Arthur Cox represented both IBRC and Millington during the sale.
At the time of the sale, Mr O’Brien owed Anglo hundreds of millions of euro while Siteserv owed Anglo €150million.
The sale involved IBRC agreeing to writing off €100million of Siteserv’s €150million debt.
Mr O’Brien acquired the business on a debt-free basis
In addition, just under €5million was distributed to Siteserv’s shareholders, with them believed to have received €3.92 for every share they owned.………………………
It was reported that Australian hedge fund Anchorage Capital offered a higher price – €52million – but that ‘elements of the offer were considered less attractive then the O’Brien bid’.
It was also reported that French company Altrad claimed it was denied the opportunity to make an offer for Siteserv – saying it had been prepared to offer €60million for the firm but that it was ‘effectively denied the opportunity because its representative was told the Irish group was not for sale…………………
In July 2013, GMC Sierra (a subsidiary of Siteserv) won a State contract to install water meters in Dublin city, the Midlands, Wicklow, Kildare, Offaly, Laois, Mayo, Roscommon, Donegal, Sligo and Leitrim……………….
Last December, Independent TD for Kildare North, Catherine Murphy raised her concerns about GMC Sierra’s water meter contract, in the Dáil, asking how could GMC Sierra be awarded a contract [by former Environment Minister Phil Hogan] for water meters even though it didn’t legally come into existence until July 15, 2013, 15 days after the closing date for bids……………………..”

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/03/05/denis-obrien-fine-gael-and-the-water-meter-deal/

@Protect Democracy! The looney right haven’t got a clue. If you are for zero hr contracts you are for the destruction of the SME sector that rely on the working class who spend almost all of their income with SME`s such as butchers, newsagents keeping 70% of the population in work. Zero hr contacts allow massive companies and multi nationals with thousands of employees make even larger profits while paying less tax. Taking millions out of the economy !

Yawn yawn yawn-same old rambling outdated boring drivel from AAA. You need to seek professional help, and don’t worry it’s free! ( thought you’d like that last bit as your mob’s main aim is to get everyone else to pay!)

The AAA are all mouth and no substance.
People are fed up with their waffle.
They jump on anything to try further their own agenda.

Right wing traitors.

There is a Left Wing but there’s no Right Wing. The opposite to Left Wing is freedom.

Freedom of choice, perhaps? Or are you saying “Thou shalt not disagree with my way of thinking”?

That comment was for Suzie Sunshine, waaay back up the page.

Where did I suggest that the sixties, or indeed any other time in this country’s history was some sort of sunlit paradise? My parents had to emigrate out of this kip in the early 50′s and returned in 1960, and it was no paradise. There was, however, a certain amount of solidarity amongst working people and a sense of community – even if that sense was based on living in poverty and helping each other out, where possible. In the seventies we at least protested – with varying degrees of success. Now the apathy is such that people are astounded at the water protest. Not everthing changes for the better.

Do your parents couldn’t hack it abroad, and came home? What makes you think you’d fare any better?

Egg head nobody said they were better times far from it just saying when you have everything it’s har

It’s a fairly complex story – which I’m not about to share with you, troll – but my parents were hacking it fine over in the UK, both had work, I was at school, and they had even provided me with a little English born sibling. However, for family reasons, they had to return, and we were thus back in our native land.

It’s harder when you have not been through it before.

You said Sheiik, we the people can’t even stick together to get rid of the Cancer thats corrupting this Country. We have got to stop them. Who would have thought that Enda Kenny would do a judas for a few pots of gold and that the great Joan would follow in his footsteps. The TRAITORS of this Country have got to be stopped.

There is an it missing between you and Sheik i fully agree with you and NO ONE should have to leave their Country , but the robbers and the DOBs.