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Air policing deal between Ireland and UK signed off without ministerial signature

Controversy broke out last week as opposition TDs asked for clarity on the supposed deal with the RAF.

TWO SENIOR CIVIL servants were involved in the last update to a deal that allows RAF aircraft access to Irish airspace but there was no ministerial input, The Journal has learned.

Sources with a knowledge of the memorandum of understanding said that the last renewal of the deal was in 2016 when a senior official from the Department of Defence and another from the Irish Aviation Authority signed the document.

The understanding has been in place since the 1950s.

It is understood that the deal is less a direct clearance for military intervention and rather a deal which permits British military flights into Irish airspace with communication between both Governments.

In September last year, The Journal revealed that Senator Gerard Craughwell was suing the Government in an effort to compel it to state whether a deal exists with the UK which allows for the interception of rogue aircraft over Ireland.

It has been claimed by the Senator and other defence sources that a memorandum was signed with the British to provide a jet fighter response to incoming suspicious aircraft.

Tanaiste Micheál Martin, the Minister for Defence and Foreign Affairs, denied last week that Ireland depends on the agreement for adequate policing of airspace. He claimed reporting of the issue by the Irish Times was inaccurate. However, he refused to explain further – citing a policy to not comment on national security issues. 

The Irish Times report, which led to the Dáil discussion, outlined how concerns about the so-called secret arrangement had been raised by ministers and military officers over the years.  

Our own reporting has established that a deal regarding air policing exists – both from civilian, political and security sources. 

Sources have suggested that the lack of ministerial input could be designed to give a “plausible deniability” about its existence. 

‘International partners’

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said in the Dáil that Ireland does depend on international partners to assist in national security measures. 

The UK is not the only country to benefit from an agreement allowing flyover permission for military planes – the US are also permitted to fly unarmed aircraft across Irish airspace unchecked.

Sources have said that the US agreement was tested some years ago when a cargo aircraft flew over Europe – it is not known if the aircraft entered Irish airspace. The sources said the aircraft wasn’t alone and two armed stealth aircraft were flying in close formation.

On that occasion, a jet from neutral Austria was sent up to inspect the aircraft and it was then that the fighter jets were discovered.   

The latest statistics, available on the Department of Defence website, show that in March two requests were received for overflights by British aircraft.

In the same period, 52 US military aircraft landing requests were received with zero overflights recorded.

The statistics do not show any overflight data listed for the UK in February and, in January, the British made two overflight requests and had one landing request cancelled. For its part, the United States had 40 landing requests and 39 overflights documented. 

There are a large number of other countries recorded on that list including Italy, Poland and Hungary. Egypt, Kuwait and Japan were also on the list. 

The DOD website explains how these overflights work and it makes particular reference to the fact that under the Air Navigation (Foreign Military Aircraft) Order, 1952, the Minister for Foreign Affairs has the “primary responsibility for the regulation of activity by foreign military aircraft in Ireland and in Irish airspace”. 

“The Order provides that no foreign military aircraft shall fly over, or land in, the State without the express invitation or permission of the Minister. It further provides that the aircraft shall comply with such stipulations as the Minister may make,” the document states. 

The document also states that requests for permission for foreign military aircraft to land in or overfly Ireland must ensure the flight is unarmed; that it carries no arms, ammunition or explosives; and that it will not engage in intelligence gathering.

The applications must also specify that the flights do not form part of a military exercise or operation. 

“These conditions are applied to ensure compatibility with Ireland’s traditional policy of military neutrality, which is characterised by non-membership of military alliances,” the document states. 

The document also states that, in the case of US military aircraft, under an arrangement dating from 1959, overflights are permitted without prior notification, on condition that the aircraft are unarmed, carry only cargo and passengers, and comply with navigational requirements.

The DOD outlines that if US military aircraft do not meet the criteria, blanket clearance is not permitted.

Sources have said that there is no scope for Irish aircraft to routinely visually inspect those aircraft while in flight. 

It is understood that the agreement document between Ireland and the UK was shown to senior military officers about eight years ago. 

The Department of Defence referred our query to the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA). 

A DFA spokesperson said: “The Government’s consistent approach is that we do not comment on national security but policies are conducted with full respect for Irish sovereign decision-making authority and for Ireland’s policy of military neutrality.”

A statement has been requested from the Irish Aviation Authority.

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    Mute A2 Poster
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    Aug 27th 2019, 2:49 PM

    Please support your local farmers over the large retailers

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    Mute Lar Meyler
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    Aug 27th 2019, 3:22 PM

    @A2 Poster: Thats a bit like saying please support your local corner shop. That did not work out well for well established reasons..

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    Mute Bull McCabe
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    Aug 27th 2019, 2:53 PM

    Larry Goodman and his likes have the government and big business in their pocket. It’s just going to take a lot more protests and the possibility of slurry pumped into Dáil Éireann although it’s full of slurry already.

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    Mute Clint Sofie
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    Aug 27th 2019, 3:47 PM

    @Bull McCabe: I’d have more support for your cause Bull if I could stroll down an auld river near yerself and catch a few trout without the likes of you telling me that this you’re land and dont let me see the likes of you here again. Just saying.

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    Mute Mill Lane
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    Aug 27th 2019, 4:05 PM

    @Clint Sofie: Until something happens and the farmer ends up in court being sued.
    And then you have the odd idiot leaving gates open, damaging fences, littering.

    Add that to the rural crime wave of machinery and tools and you can’t fault the farmers for not being too happy with finding you on their land without their permission.

    It doesn’t hurt to ask.

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    Mute Clint Sofie
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    Aug 27th 2019, 5:00 PM

    @Mill Lane: Dont think that asking Benjy for permission to stand at a hole of water for an hour or so is going to convert him to let the tax payer who pays his grants catch a few fish, with the greatest of respect ,MILL.

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    Mute Mill Lane
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    Aug 27th 2019, 5:22 PM

    @Clint Sofie: And that’s the difference between thinking and doing….you won’t catch too many fish by thinking.

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    Aug 27th 2019, 6:13 PM

    @Mill Lane: Give it up Mill, it is well known that farmers have killed over a half acre of land. THIS IS MINE AND NOBODY WILL CROSS THAT LITTLE PIECE OF GRASS, SO THERE.

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    Mute Mill Lane
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    Aug 27th 2019, 6:40 PM

    @Clint Sofie: Well if you have such a low opinion of them… don’t go onto their land or buy a boat.

    Simple really.

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    Aug 27th 2019, 7:33 PM

    @Clint Sofie: And I’m sure you won’t mind if Bull and myself slip around into your back garden and enjoy an hour lying out in the sun. Just saying like….

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    Aug 27th 2019, 7:56 PM

    @Molly1952: You would be very welcome and I would hope that you would also bring your family’s as well. My land is open to all.

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    Mute Clint Sofie
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    Aug 27th 2019, 8:07 PM

    @Clint Sofie: Oh and by the way, we will all end up with 6 foot of grass at the end of the day, no matter how much ya may crave for more of it wright now. The best of luck lads. We will all end up in the same place at the end of it all.

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    Aug 27th 2019, 10:22 PM

    @Clint Sofie: Have to agree with you on that one…

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    Aug 28th 2019, 1:09 AM

    @Molly1952: Good night Molly, or should I say good morning. Cheers.

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    Mute Garreth Mc Mahon
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    Aug 27th 2019, 2:38 PM

    How the government can’t make the retailers show up and yet they are the ones with the biggest mark up is beyond me

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Aug 27th 2019, 5:50 PM

    @Garreth Mc Mahon: the retailers are in the UK and other far flung places. 95% is exported. Irish retailers paying more would only be a drop in the bucket

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    Mute Brian Flavin
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    Aug 27th 2019, 2:54 PM

    Should banned import beef from South America & North America and need support Irish farmer

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    Mute Louise
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    Aug 27th 2019, 3:07 PM

    And for every €10 you spend on cow meat, you are directly supporting the slaughter of animals.

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    Mute Adam Manning
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    Aug 27th 2019, 3:20 PM

    @Louise: thanks for that

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    Aug 27th 2019, 3:23 PM

    @Louise: and for every €10 you spend on carrots you support the slaughter of innocent vegetables.

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    Aug 27th 2019, 3:52 PM

    @Bull McCabe: and you are denying rabbits their staple diet.

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    Mute Mill Lane
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    Aug 27th 2019, 4:26 PM

    @Louise: As a “normal” vegetarian I really do wish others would stop making stupid statements like this.
    People have a fair idea the beef on their plate has been to the slaughter house, they don’t need to be told as they are not stupid.

    Our meat free diets are probably no better for the environment, monoculture, pesticides, more diesel, more air miles ect. ect.

    Choosing not to eat meat doesn’t give us the right to lecture people and those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

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    Aug 27th 2019, 7:40 PM

    @Louise: The animals wouldnt exist if they weren’t there for meat. Who do you think is going to feed and house a herd of cattle or pigs for pets??

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    Aug 27th 2019, 8:32 PM

    @Molly1952: Thats grand Molly and you are doing the animals a favour? are ya sure that the animals are not doing YOU, a favour.

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    Aug 27th 2019, 2:41 PM

    @the journal. Please fix bugs for iPhone that makes your comment post twice because you have to repost to get it on comments

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    Mute Garreth Mc Mahon
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    Aug 27th 2019, 2:39 PM

    How the government can’t make the retailers show up and yet they are the ones with the biggest percentage in the price is beyond me

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    Mute Tim Oconnell
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    Aug 27th 2019, 5:29 PM

    @Garreth Mc Mahon: free trade “”

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    Mute Joe Clery
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    Aug 27th 2019, 6:04 PM

    @Garreth Mc Mahon: Coz they are busy taking care of business servicing customers, its a talk shop.

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    Mute John Hanrahan
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    Aug 27th 2019, 4:01 PM

    That top poster is wrong. The retailer gets €3.30 out of every €10 of meat.
    They are now looking for a €1Billion Brexit fund. Have they all lost the plot. For those who don’t know what €1Billion looks like, here it is. €1,000,000,000.

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    Mute Sean Stevenson
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    Aug 27th 2019, 5:42 PM

    @John Hanrahan: too many farmers in this country. If they can’t compete, let them go bust. All the subsidies we give them outweigh the cost of ‘buying Irish’

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Aug 27th 2019, 3:06 PM

    So where have they published the figures for the claims they are making?

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    Aug 27th 2019, 3:32 PM

    @Darren Byrne: The poster with the prices? I’m sure if it was wrong, the big retailers would have no problem coming out and saying so. But they are cowering away from it because they know it’s true.
    Btw, beefplan has suicide prevention phone numbers and coping with depression numbers up on their website. This is a really serious issue for rural people, please don’t doubt them for no reason. It’s their industry, they know it, they know the figures. They shouldn’t have to prove that they aren’t dishonest.

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    Aug 27th 2019, 5:05 PM

    @A2 Poster: I have no doubt that some of them are finding things hard. I have seen other people operate businesses and fail where others then follow and succeed. But my issue is when someone makes claims that just aren’t backed up by figures. Secondly they don’t say how much it costs them to produce that beef that they’re only getting 2 for every 10 spent.

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    Mute Thomas Maher
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    Aug 27th 2019, 4:08 PM

    Whats the average turnover/profit of a beef farm anyone?

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    Aug 27th 2019, 5:25 PM

    @Thomas Maher: I would say it relies on economies of scale. The guy who started this only has 100 head of cattle. I’d imagine costs would be much less pro rata if you had 1000 head of cattle.

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    Aug 27th 2019, 8:45 PM

    @Thomas Maher: last year I think teagasc stated it was 6000 € profit Including single farm payment. At the price it is this year I’d image the factory is after taking all the single farm payment and probably some of the off farm income as well

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    Mute Kieran Feely
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    Aug 27th 2019, 7:49 PM

    The Irish state and the EU appear to be determined to wipe out rural Ireland!

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