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Money Diaries A civil engineer and farmer on €75K living in Leinster

This week, our reader is busy running his farm and working as an engineer, while also building his own home.

WELCOME TO HOW I Spend My Money, a series on The Journal that looks at how people in Ireland really handle their finances.

We’re asking readers to keep a record of how much they earn, what they save if anything, and what they’re spending their money on over the course of one week.

Are you a spender, a saver or a splurger? We’re looking for readers who will keep a money diary for a week. If you’re interested send a mail to money@thejournal.ie. We would love to hear from you.

Each money diary is submitted by readers just like you. When reading and commenting, bear in mind that their situation will not be relatable for everyone, it is simply an account of a week in their shoes, so let’s be kind.

Last time around, we heard from a manager at an NGO earning €53K. This week it’s a civil engineer and farmer on €75K. 

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I’m a civil engineer in my 40s, primarily working from home with the odd day in the office. I also have a small beef farm (35 cattle) and do some agricultural contracting for neighbours on a small scale too. This allows me to drive which I love doing and gets me out of the office work to clear my head.

I live with my wife and four-year-old son. We are expecting a new child in October. We rent a small three-bedroom terrace house and are building a new house. We started last September and just finished the roof. This is a self-build and my father-in-law has building experience. He’s doing a lot of the project management. We’d be lost without him. The windows are ordered and are the next big item to go in. We’ve spent just over €100k so far on the build, all from our savings which are nearly empty. We’ve been approved for a mortgage and drew down in January before the last couple of rate hikes. We were lucky to avoid those hikes and fixed the interest rate for seven years.

My days are busy, and no two days are alike. It’s great to have variety. My wife works three days per week which allows her to mind our child at home and save on childcare. We felt that made sense and we are actually better off losing two days’ wages versus paying childcare. When we are stuck our parents help out, which is fantastic. On days we both work we take turns on entertaining him during the afternoon when he returns from play school.

For leisure, I try to do some running and cycling. It’s hard to find time at this time of year but I always try to get 30 minutes in somewhere along the way to loosen the body.

I used to save some money each month, but that stopped once we started building. I also used to invest around €100 a month in stocks and shares but again stopped that when building began. I prioritised ones that paid dividends so that there would be a small regular income. I reinvest any dividends to try to take advantage of compounding.

Occupation: Civil engineer and farmer

Age: 40s

Location: Leinster

Salary: €75,000

Monthly pay (net): €3,700

Monthly expenses

Transport: €250 diesel

Rent: €700

Household bills: €170

Phone bill: N/a (company pays)

Health insurance: N/a (company pays)

Groceries: N/a (wife covers groceries, I cover bills/rent)

Subscriptions: None

Pensions: €375 + €500 AVCs

Mortgage: €221 (split between two of us [only a small amount has been drawn down so far])

Life insurance and mortgage protection: €43 (split between two of us)

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Monday

5.30 am: Alarm goes off and I get out of bed, dressed and drive 10 minutes to my friend’s yard where I milk his cows while he’s away.

6.00 am: Start milking and turn cows back out to a fresh paddock. Some held back for the AI technician.

7.30 am: Drive home for the cornflakes and play with my four-year-old for a while before he goes to play school.

9.00 am: My wife makes me a packed lunch. I grab that and head to the yard. I’m taking some annual leave to take advantage of the sunny weather. I check my own cattle before starting the tractor and go mow silage on contract. I start that work around 10 am.

5.00 pm: I get back to the yard. I didn’t stop and ate lunch on the go. It’s great with GPS and autosteer on the tractor to allow eating while moving.

5.30 pm: Second contract job of the day is to spread some fertiliser for a neighbour. Switch machines on the tractor and quickly do that.

7.00 pm: Arrive home for dinner. My wife and child already ate. I heat mine in the microwave. Chicken, potatoes and peas. Lovely.

8.00 pm: After saying goodnight to my kid, I head out to the new house and start chasing walls for first fit electrics. Need to try to keep costs down. This is hard work but doable. We know where we want sockets and light switches. I’ll chase those. Any extra can be added later when we get an electrician.

10.00 pm: Quick check on the cattle again and finish for the day.

10.30 pm: Have a cup of tea followed by some YouTube and reading up on the day’s events on the internet. My go-to sites are Twitter and Boards. I’ve a lot of work lined up for tomorrow, so I shower before bed and hit the pillow for midnight.

Today’s total: €0.00

Tuesday

5.00 am: Wake up before the alarm with the sun shining through the blinds and the birds singing. Find getting up early in this weather a breeze. Grab breakfast and head for the yard.

5.30 am: Get the tractor going and head off to spread slurry for a neighbour. Since the start of this year, he has had to spread using LESS (Low Emission Slurry Spreading) and hasn’t managed to get his own tank fitted with the equipment yet. Luckily, I got the job for a bit of extra income. There isn’t much to do today for him.

9.00 am: I’m back home to change equipment again. It’s lovely and sunny outside. The next job is to ted the fields I cut yesterday. I fill the tractor with diesel, put on the tedder and head away.

1.00 pm: Finished that job and it’s time to head home. Stop at the local filling station for lunch. Grab a chicken roll with cheese and onions, some wedges and a coffee. I do the Euromillions as well. All told I’m €24.70 worse off. I eat it outside on the benches and scroll through Twitter on my phone.

1.45 pm: I’m back in the yard and straight to the new house. I’m meeting an electrician to see if he’s interested in the wiring of the place. I’ve got three quotes so far that range from €21k to €29k. I might have to cut out some of the fancy lights I’d wanted, though I feel lighting is important and I want to get it right now.

2.30 pm: Straight to the house now for a quick clean and change of clothes. We have the anomaly scan in the hospital at 3 pm. Time is against us for making it on time.

3.30 pm: Scan over and all is great. That’s a big relief. We celebrate with a coffee and hot chocolate. €7.20 covers that.

4.20 pm: I’m back in the yard and back on the tractor. I’ve to move some bales for a farmer a few miles away. It’s not a big move but it can be slow work as his yard is small. Drop the tedder and put on the loader and trailer and off I go.

8.00 pm: I’m home, and hungry. I put on a bit of pasta for myself to keep me going. Still have more jobs to do. The bright evenings are great.

8.30 pm: I better check the cattle. I’ve not had a chance all day. They are all fine but I see a water leak in their trough. I turn that off and move them to fresh grass. They needed a move. Grass is growing rapidly these days and management is a little harder. Better to look at it than for it all the same.

9.00 pm: The evenings are cool and there is some dew on the ground for the last few nights. I’ll put on the sprayer and spread some ground with a foliar application. I’ve been doing this for a couple of years, and it improves soil health and reduces the need for chemical nitrogen. This is a good time to do it as strong sun can affect the product’s effectiveness.

11.00 pm: Finally in. Have a quick pint of milk before a few minutes on the internet to see what’s new.

11.40 pm: Call it a day and head for bed.

Today’s total: €31.90

Wednesday

6.10 am: No alarm set for this morning, and I had a lie in! Wake up fresh and decide I’ll go for a run. Quickly get changed and out the door. I do 7.5km and it takes me 42 minutes. I’m content with that. I have lost a lot of fitness and what I lost in fitness I gained in weight. I’ll lose it again once I get back into a more regular routine.

7.00 am: Home and sit down to the breakfast. Weetabix today. I like to change it up. I hear the child stirring too.

7.20 am: The little man is wide awake and I call into his room. We play for a while and then head down for his breakfast and get him ready for play school. My wife has a cold and is resting up.

8.50 am: Off to drop the child to play school and from there, I’ll head with the car to get tested. It failed its NCT a couple of weeks ago, but I got the parts and it’s fixed up now.

9.40 am: Car passed. Another year of driving permitted. €28 for the retest. I bought the car new in 2009 and it’s still going strong. It has 345km on the clock. I have thought about changing a few times but then sense kicks in. Car prices are crazy, and my own car is near worthless to trade. Best keep it going. Better for the environment too and not be scrapping something that’s working and replace with new.

10.15 am: Home again. My wife is curled up on the couch. I make her a Lemsip and head to the co-op to get a few pieces to fix the water leak from yesterday.

11.00 am: Home again with new joiners. They and other bits cost €34 which will come out of the farm account. I head to the field and fix the leak and check the cattle while I’m there. All is good. They are relaxing under the hedges for shade.

12.00 pm: I head to the play school and collect the little man. We stop at the shop on the way home to grab lunch. He has a grá for cheese sandwiches these days. We grab a few sandwiches and sausage rolls. I also do the Lotto for tonight. Fingers crossed. Spent €26.20 in all.

1.15 pm: The Lemsip and sandwich have done wonders for the wife and she’s up and about. Herself and himself have plans to go out in the little backyard to play in the sun. I head to the tractor and get set to mow my own silage. I wait until after lunch to ensure all the dew is gone and the grass sugars are at their highest. I’ve six hours or so mowing ahead of me and I bring some crisps, water and a packet of biscuits for sustenance.

5.20 pm: I get a notification on my phone from Revolut that I’ve paid €33.60 to Eddie Rockets. Scam or dinner? Let’s wait and see.

5.55 pm: Here’s Eddie! Dinner brought to the field. I’m handed a box of chicken tenders and bacon/cheese chips. Lovely.

7.10 pm: Back in the yard. I’m back to the office work tomorrow but I’ve some things to do first before I start that. I get the tractor and things ready to roll bright and early.

7.45 pm: I stop at the shop and buy three ice creams. A Snickers ice cream is €2.50! I really shouldn’t have bought it. Anyway, spend €9.39 in the shop.

9.00 pm: Check last night’s Euromillions ticket, and it’s disappointing as I have won nothing.

9.30 pm: A cup of tea and a browse through YouTube before bed is in order.

11.00 pm: Lights out….

Today’s total: €97.19

Thursday

6.00 am: Alarm goes off and up I get. The first job today is to bring cattle to the factory for my neighbour. I don’t bother with breakfast and head off.

8.20 am: Back home and in to join the rest of the family for breakfast. My wife, feeling better, gets the young lad ready while I finish off my food.

8.50 am: Bring the young lad to play school and then head back home for the office job.

9.15 am: Laptop on and I get a cup of tea while it performs one of its regular updates. It doesn’t take long. The first job is to quickly glance through emails. Any that look important from the heading I respond to, and the rest I delete. If it’s important, they’ll send it again. A look at the calendar shows I don’t have many meetings today. I open the last project I was working on and do a bit more to it. I’m currently working on plans for flood defences. This seems like a waste of time in this instance due to the proposed plans in the EU to raise the water table in areas.

12.30 pm: Young man is home from play school, and I join him for lunch. Today’s lunch consists of brown bread and boiled eggs.

1.10 pm: Back to work. I plan to finish early. I’ve a great employer who trusts me to do the work given to me on time. After that, I can tip away at other things. And today, I need to get my grass baled this evening.

3.30 pm: A call from the contractor says he’ll be on in an hour. I close the laptop and head for the yard and get set up to rake the grass so he can bale it.

6.00 pm: My wife delivers tea and sandwiches to the field for the workers. I always liked this part when the machines stop for a break. Years ago, in my parents, the house would be full of men in for food. Nowadays with time pressure, the contractors hardly have time to stop but these lads must be hungry.

7.00 pm: I’m finished raking and the bales are still being made. I change equipment on the tractor again and start to bring in the bales for the winter. A lot of work ahead and I won’t get done tonight.

11.30 pm: I’ve enough done for the day, and I head home.

11.50 pm: Hit the hay…..

Today’s total: €0.00

Friday

5.00 am: Out again at the bales before the crows get a chance to peck holes in them. I’ve a banger set up to scare them in case, but they usually won’t go near them while I’m in and out of the field.

9.00 am: Head home to log back into work. I’ve the house to myself today as the rest are gone to Bloom. I grab some tea and toast and head to the spare room.

12.30 pm: Busy morning with meetings today. My attention span is not what it used to be and if the meeting has little to do with me, I often start scrolling on the internet and reading articles about stuff I’d have an interest in. I cycle down to the shop for a roll and get my Lotto ticket checked. No winnings again. Spend €6 on a roll, crisps and drink. Some sort of special offer on there.

1.20 pm: Lunch over and it’s back to the laptop. I’ve a good bit to do today but it will have to wait until tonight. The bales are on my mind.

3.30 pm: Right, that’s enough of looking out at the sun. Time to get out in it, albeit in the cab with air con turned on.

7.10 pm: All done. Phew. I park up and head home. No one there so it’s a takeaway dinner for me. I stop in the chipper and get chips and pizza. Another €15 gone.

7.30 pm: I bring the food to the laptop and try do a bit more work. Mind isn’t in it though.

9.00 pm: Wife and child are home and he’s heading to bed. An hour later than usual but he was full of chat after his day and had a nap in the car too.

10.30 pm: I’m nodding off to sleep myself on the couch. I decide to go for a shower and then go to bed. Tomorrow is a new day.

Today’s total: €21.00

Saturday

7.00 am: I’m awake a little while and no one else is. I’ll go do a small run.

7.40 am: I did a 5k which took me a little over 24 minutes. I tried to do each km faster than the previous. It was cool this morning, but I lost some sweat. Holy moly.

7.50 am: Everyone else is up for their breakfast. I join in and then head for a shower.

8.30 am: Myself and the little man head off to the yard. Our first job is to check the cattle. They are very content. Where they have great shade from the trees and they spend the hot hours resting there. I check their water and all is fine.

9.30 am: Off to the new house build now and do work there for a few hours. First up is to finish putting insulation in around where the windows will go. It’s not hard work but is slow.

11.30 am: Insulation done, it’s time for some hammering. I have to put a few wall ties (may not be the actual name – the things that hold the wall plate down to the wall. Like metal straps) on to keep the roof secured to the blocks.

1.10 pm: Lunch time. Ham sandwiches made by those at home. I can easily tell which was made by the four-year-old, who is all proud of himself for making a sandwich. I’ve eaten worse.

2.00 pm: I leave the house and head back to the site and finish off the work.

4.00 pm: Tractor time. Hooray. A friend is digging out some clay to put in a new garage and I’ve kindly volunteered to take the clay from him and use it to form my lawn.

7.00 pm: Job done. Nice pile on the site now. No panic spreading it out yet. That can be done in 12 months. Now though, dinner time. Bacon and spuds.

8.00 pm: After dinner and a bit of playing, it’s time to take the kid to bed.

8.30 pm: He’s fast asleep, and so is the wife. I make a cup of tea and watch a bit of YouTube.

9.45 pm: I’m up and dressed and it’s time for pints. Won’t go wild.

2.40 am: I get home. I text the wife as I left the pub so I’d remember the time for this report. The pub had a special offer of four pints for €20. It’s not that long ago when it was three for a tenner. According to Revolut, I spent €40 during the night.

Today’s total: €40.00

Sunday

7.30 am: I’m woken by the child thinking a belly flop onto me while I sleep would be fierce funny. In fairness, it probably was but at the time I didn’t see it that way.

8.30 am: I fell back asleep but I’m up now and grab the breakfast. We all go for a stroll and the chap on his bike. He’s just getting used to peddling after being on a balance bike. He’s very wobbly. So am I.

10.00 am: Back home and I make a coffee and a slice of toast. We’re dropping the little man to his grandparents, and we head to Ikea. First though, we must go to mass in the cemetery.

11.20 am: Mass over and I am wrecked. It was a major struggle to stand in the heat. On the road now to Dublin.

12.40 pm: We’ve arrived and parked up. I’m hungry again and we head straight for the canteen in Ikea. We both get soup and a roll. I grab a sandwich too and a bottle of water. €7.50 is all it cost. That’s great value. However, I have a major problem with food prices in general. The problem is food is too cheap and people put no value on it.

3.15 pm: Finally finished walking around. We went primarily to look at beds but weren’t too impressed with the quality of the children’s beds. They didn’t look like they’d stand up to much hardship. We bought a few other bits and pieces and spent €66 in total.

4.20 pm: Stop on the way down out of Dublin for an ice cream but got a coffee and scone instead. This cost €14 for that. Some markup there compared to a lunch in Ikea for nearly half the price. Back to my previous point. A lot of people have no problems paying €3.50 or more for a coffee but complain like crazy having to pay 90c for a litre of milk. To me, it makes no sense at all.

5.10 pm: Arrive back and the little man has a desire for a pizza. I head off to get that from a nice restaurant who do lovely pizzas about 10 minutes away. There’s eight of us to be fed now and I buy six pizzas. Total €90.

7.30 pm: We head home after eating and then running around the garden playing chase with my child and his cousin of the same age. I’m tired now.

9.30 pm: I flick on the laptop to see how much work is lining up for me tomorrow. Turns out none seeing as it’s a bank holiday. With the shame of that mistake, I go to bed.

Today’s total: €177.50

Weekly subtotal: €367.59

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What I learned –

  • I seem to eat out a lot more than I realised. It might be a good idea to cut back on that spending a little bit. I used to go for a coffee or stop for one every day if I was driving around. I’ve cut that out already, mostly.
  • This week had little or no outgoings really for the house. But I know once the bank holiday is over, suppliers will be sending me their monthly bills. I suspect there’ll be €7,000 or so payout for materials next week. These are hard to accept, but necessity. One thing I have learned this week is our main supplier of materials is now charging more than their competitors in the region. I’ll be ringing on Tuesday to complain. It keeps them on their toes, and they match prices if I can show they are more expensive. We do shop around all the time, and they have honoured lower prices to date.
  • The farm work will quieten a little this coming week as the weather is still too dry. Once rain starts coming then I’ll have long hours contracting at slurry. This is a time-consuming job but it’s not difficult and the pay is good versus the effort needed.

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    Mute Dave Murray
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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:13 PM

    “A number of people took to Aer Lingus’ Facebook page to complain about the situation, saying it resulted in people missing weddings and other events due to take place today”
    Eh, it was hardly Aer Lingus’ fault for a thunderstorm happening was it?

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:16 PM

    Morons.

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:22 PM

    The thunderstorm is ISIS related. Apparently the would be tewwowist is under the weather and wants to strike the Aer Lingus infidels with a rod of lightening!

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:24 PM

    “tewwowist” – imagine Jonathan Ross is reading the news.

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:46 PM

    They can also claim €250 compensation from aer lingus for being delayed for more than 3 hours, it’s an IATA regulation regarding delayed flights within the EU. They shouldn’t have cut it so fine if they planned to go to a family ceremony, you should always factor in delays when travelling.

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 8:46 PM

    I am still figuring out the stupidest stuff yet till my next comment!! So far the journal and few other commentators are winning!!

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 10:06 PM

    Those IATA refunds don’t cover acts of God.

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 10:38 PM

    Not due to weather

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    Jul 24th 2016, 1:49 PM

    Not for a weather related delay they can’t.

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:17 PM

    Airport Closed. How was that a fault with Aer Lingus ? Complaining seems to be a hobby with some people, get over it !

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:14 PM

    How is this news?

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 9:24 PM

    In other news, were building a bridge and we just need some water to go under it

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 9:28 PM

    Your reading it arent you lol

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    Jul 24th 2016, 9:18 AM

    Shoddy reporting and a misrepresentation of the facts from our online sleuths at the Journal.ie – hence the quick volley of self righteous condemnation from the pythonesque peoples court.

    People on board didn’t complain about having to disembark the plane. On the contrary, the lightening and thunder show around us made the decision easier. The frolics started thereafter when the villans of the piece, namely the Swissport “agents”, acting on behalf of Aer Lingus, got involved.

    Frequent flyers and seasoned travellers know the Spiel when something like this happens – but the majority on board were holidaymakers (families, first time flyers etc), unfamilar with the nuts and bolts that such a situation brings with it. They were left in the hands of three highly incompetent south american Swissport agents (think Manuel from Faulty Towers meets Mr. Bean with a topping of a hyperactive Carmen Miranda) who could bearly get a sentence across their lips in English or German. A chaos ensued that could easily have been avoided!

    A good 20% of the passengers (myself included) headed home with promises from Carmen et al that we’d recieve a call or text in the morning, informing us of our new flight time on Saturday – it never happened. No one at the Aer Lingus hotline (25 minute wait) could tell us either.

    Made our way back to the Airport at 8:30 after a very short night to be met by the daytime crew of Swissport “agents” led this time by a robust Valkyrie, with enough spraytan to cover an Airbus A380 and the attitude of a Rattlesnake with a monster hangover (the omens were not good).

    Again no flighttime was communicated. We were herded into a pen (beyond security controls) with the promise of breakfast and a definite flighttime.

    Hours later, a very tired, hungry and remarkably patient group of passengers were “served” breakfast (a mini bottle of mineral water and a mini swissroll) by the said Valkyrian. No updates given, just aggresive refutes (I know nothing, so back off) from our teutonic tank. Kids, wheelchair bound passengers etc left tired and starving. Feeding ourselves wasn’t an option, seeing that we weren’t allowed back out into the main terminal from our pen.

    All avoidable with some common sense and an action plan in place for such occurences. We finally boarded at 2:15. The Pilot, an absolute gentleman, apologised profusely and his crew were brilliant, feeding the hungry hoarde with free Pringles, sandwiches and chocolate (they quite rightly hid the alcohol).

    Tarring the passengers, as some have done on here, as a whinging mass of ungreatful moaners is grossly unfair. A remarkably patient, tolerant and friendly bunch of people given that they were treated abominably by the Swissport incompetents.

    As for Aer Lingus: kudos to you for providing a hotel when you didn’t have to (Lufthansa left hundreds of passengers to sleep overnight in Terminal 1with ruptions ensuing). I’d only question the wisdom of your decision in replacing your highly professional and experienced ground staff at FFM Airport with external, highly incompetent and wholly unprofessional, third party vendors

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    Jul 24th 2016, 5:56 PM

    Best comment I have ever read on the Journal .. From another frequent Traveller !! Loved the A380 comparison .. I think I’ve met her before ..

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:25 PM

    Slow news day

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 11:21 PM

    Lufthansa flight to Dublin was also cancelled because of the storm delay. Stuff happens.

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:48 PM

    I was on that flight – completely agree that the thunderstorm was not the fault of aer lingus but the way we were treated is their fault. I paid 300+ quid to them and they sub contracted a bunch of clueless amateurs in Frankfurt airport. All we wanted was some information as to what was happening and when we were likely to leave but nothing back only lies and miss information given to make us go away. A lot of anger and tears could have been avoided by simply telling us what was likely to happen. Not a major issue considering some of the other news stories on here as we all got home safe but the frustrating part was it was all avoidable if someone from aer lingus would have communicated with and not avoided us.

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:53 PM

    Not easy when the airline dont know whats happening, plans change so much but the priority would be to get vack to Dublin if possible.

    FRA airport failed by allowinf aircraft to taxi, they were fully aware of the closure so why rhey cleared push back is a big question.

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:59 PM

    Hi Paul – fully agree with that regarding last night and the confusion – we were told however we would fly back at 12 today, then delayed till 1, then told it was 3. Not a word from aer lingus just announcements from the ground staff on each delay with no additional information as to why. Just flight delayed by two hours and then they ran off. Nobody knew what was happening but clearly their had to have been some additional information we could have been told but weren’t.

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 8:02 PM

    Aer Lingus has no employees in Frankfurt so you are relying on Swissport. Agree, in these situations professionalism is required, but having been in a similar situation, passengers also have a tendency to “hassle the hell” out of the staff and exacerbate the situation. Judging by some of the passengers gripes over missing events back home because of the delay, wouldn’t surprise me if they were the most vociferous and dare I say it unreasonable??

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 8:18 PM

    21 hrs without any clue what has happening. 21 hrs for a 2 hr flight. Hardly an over reaction to ask to be told when you were likely to be going home.

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    Mute The IMF are here
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    Jul 23rd 2016, 8:25 PM

    Cormac.

    I’m sure it was hard going and costly and stressful.

    But:

    - Aer Lingus have no staff on the ground.

    - They took all instructions from the airport. What you experienced, so did every other delayed flight.

    - I’ve been in that situation more the once, more often than not on an Irish bound flight from the US. Only one thing to do – don’t wait for the airline. Get your own hotel and taxi knowing it will all be expensed to €250 value, keep an eye online for flight details and find a high stool and a compassionate bar man.

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    Mute Cormac
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    Jul 23rd 2016, 8:33 PM

    Learnt the hard way – that will be the plan if and when it happens again

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    Jul 24th 2016, 6:37 AM

    I can’t understand all the red thumbs to this comment. Its fair and reasonable.

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 9:03 PM

    Ah first world problems

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 9:09 PM

    Surely the curfew is a noise issue for the residents near the airport. The thunderstorns must be quieter during the curfew or they will be banned as well.

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    Mute David Hefner
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    Jul 24th 2016, 1:22 AM

    So This a is a newsworthy article? A flight was delayed. Big swinging M****y. Sheesh.. really scraping the barrel Journal. Sigh.

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:11 PM

    Aer Linger

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:15 PM

    Aer Langers

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:39 PM

    Aer heads ^

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    Mute Techbuzz Ireland
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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:12 PM

    Aren’t planes built to sustain lighting strikes?? There has been lots of thunderstorm activity around that area but the rest seemed to manage.

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:15 PM

    Did you not read the story,

    The airport temporarily closed due to a lightning storm, by the time the airport reopened it was near its curfew with flight back logs, the Shamrock was taxi-ing out but then got told the airport was closed cause it was the curfew time.

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    Mute Techbuzz Ireland
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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:19 PM

    Ah yeah. I see but since it was taxi-ing out it should of been allowed take off. Regardless the headline makes it out different?

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:28 PM

    No its something the Germans are very strict on, any UK, French or Spanish airport and they would have continued open to free up the back log but zee Germans have dont bend the rules

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    Jul 24th 2016, 12:51 AM

    Diverted to refuel on a recent trip from Portugal delayed in Shannon for 3 hours not allowed off the plane and not even a bottle of water given to passengers. We had already been informed that the catering trolley had been V busy on the flight out and was not restocked. I complained to Aer Lingus by è mail the following day 14th June and received a confirmation of receipt from them however despite two phone calls and follow up e mail I have never received a reply. Customer service is a thing of the past with Aer Lingus. I shall just have to speak with my feet and fly Ryanair. Aer Lingus has gone to the dogs. .

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    Jul 23rd 2016, 7:58 PM

    Aer hole ^

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    Jul 24th 2016, 3:17 AM

    Lots of Lightning still in Germany

    http://en.blitzortung.org/live_dynamic_maps.php?map=12

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    Jul 24th 2016, 3:06 PM

    My brother and I were caught up In this ordeal but we were flying home with Lufthansa. Never in my life have we been treated so badly – all the Lufthansa desks were closed when we finally got off the plane in which we were waiting 2 hours, which meant we couldn’t get transfer and hotel vouchers forcing us to sleep in the airport and wait to catch an Aer Lingus flight home at 10pm last night. Never again Lufthansa.

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    Jul 25th 2016, 4:42 PM

    OK negative folk. Delays occur when travelling we understand. Here is the actual story step by step so you can judge if it was a run of the mill normal delay.

    Due to leave Frankfurt at 8:45 last night. Little thunderstorm delayed things while they suspended operations. Got on plane at 23:15, sat until 12:00 on plane doing nothing. Pushed back from stand on ramp waiting to take off. Told then that there’s a curfew of 12:00 and flight can’t leave. Sent to baggage hall to reclaim bags to be told u could be waiting a couple hours for your bags. Went to ticket desk where nobody knew anything. Told wait for a bus to a hotel but we don’t know when the bus will get here. After an hour or so we were sent back inside to collect our bags then back to the ticket desk for further chaos. Eventually we were told if u don’t want to wait for the bus u can pay for a taxi to the hotel we booked and claim later from aer lingus. So after a while waiting for a taxi I got in with two other nice folk I met there and we shared the taxi fare of 68 Euro after the taxi driver faffed about trying to get out through the barriers for five mins as all was closed. Arrived then at the hotel to a que for check in as one might expect with one night Porter to check us all in. Got to my room at 3:30 am and fell asleep. Got woken at 8:00am told bus to airport is at 9:00. Went down and got breakfast only to be told breakfast is not included and I had to pay 18 Euro for brekkie. Back to airport on half hour journey and waited at check in desk to be told sorry the 10:50 flight has to go first and our flight was scheduled for 12:00. Eventually after the 10:50 flight closed we got to check in our bags where the desk clerk wrote go to gate E4 and we were told the flight will now depart at 13:00. OK so went to gate E4 where I had to que and go through security. A few of us waited around there for a while until someone asked what’s happening only then to be told we switched gates. Now go to gate D54. So after hassle to get back through security we walk to completely the other side of the terminal where we go through security screening again. Inside the gate holding area there’s nothing more than a couple of vending machines. So we wait and wait and wait. The 13:00 flight looks less likely now as its 12:45 and nothing’s happening. Then they come out with water and juice and a small slice of Swiss roll each. We are then told there’s no crew. Bags are loaded buses waiting but the crew are still back a half hour away in the hotel. The ground handling girls use a passengers phone to ring the hotel to try get the crew to come down. She sends the buses for the plane away. 14:15 we are told hurray the crew are in the plane but now we must wait for buses to get you to the plane. 14:45 a bus pulls up. I’m first out and me along with 6 or 7 others get through onto the bus only to be told sorry this bus is for the Istanbul plane so u have to get off. Back off waiting again. Next bus arrives. Are u the aer lingus bus? No! The ground agent talked to him and changed his mind after he made a phonecall or two. 15:00 on the plane all good waiting to go. Pilot comes on to say we are ready to go all packed in all accounted for but waiting on ground handlers to bring up paperwork which should be about 15 mins. 15:30 we take off finally. The crew were great free food and drinks in plane and really looked after us. None of it their fault. All aer lingus offered on arrival was a meal voucher!! R u shitting me? A meal voucher.

    Proud to say despite what some on here said, that nobody really had a go at any staff or shouted etc. We all knew they were just going their job but with no leadership or direction from the airline it was a catalog of errors.

    So glad to be home now with my Mrs and two little princesses!!

    Don’t go blurting out rubbish about the story until you have heard the facts.

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