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Teresa Collins of We Are Still Here standing in the Angel Plot.

'It's recognition for these children': Scan for remains due for Tipperary Mother and Baby Home

Sean Ross Abbey was among the most notorious homes in the State during its operation.

AN IN-DEPTH SURVEY of the earth on the grounds of a mother and baby home in Tipperary will take place in the coming weeks as survivors trace the potential for a “mass grave”, similar to that found in Tuam.

Sean Ross Abbey in Roscrea was where 1,090 children died across almost four decades.

A geophysical survey, funded by the Department of Children, will be conducted on a patch of the land where some locals believe children may have been buried.

This is located beside a designated burial ground known as the Angel Plot but is currently overgrown with vegetation.

Tuam made headlines around the world after it emerged that many infants who died at the home were buried in a sewage tank on that site. 

Run by the Sisters of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary, Sean Ross Abbey was one of the largest and most notorious mother and baby homes in the State, containing a three-storey mansion, an orchard and a church on its grounds.

Thousands of unmarried pregnant women passed through its doors from 1931 until 1969, with 6,079 babies born there during that period. Among its most well-known residents was Philomena Lee, whose story featured in a 2013 film starring Judi Dench.

Many of the 1,090 children who died were under the age of three. A further 6,414 women were admitted there. 

75327C5D-0A3B-4E02-B90D-1B41B49C6CE5 One of several plaques left in the Angel Plot. The burial ground contains unmarked graves, 42 of which were found by the commission in 2019.

As part of the commission’s work, about a tenth of the Angel Plot was examined four years ago and some excavation work took place, but it only found the remains of 42 infants.

Teresa Collins, who was born in the home in 1963, told The Journal that the “numbers aren’t adding up” so survivors want to press ahead with a further study of the ground.

They have cited “local knowledge and local history” around Sean Ross Abbey, including the recollections of former workmen who tended to the wider estate.

Members of the We Are Still Here group hosted a gathering with representatives of the Department of Children, Tipperary County Council and Tipperary Sinn Féin TD Martin Browne on Thursday afternoon at the grounds of the former home.

Attended by The Journal, Collins explained to the group that campaigners hope that a scan of the grounds will “give these children recognition” and help to finally discover what happened to them.

“It’s been a long, long hard process but all we want in the end of it is if they’re there, we can begin to remember them.

“But it’s also a process of elimination. We may never be able to identify them if we find children there, but if there’s nothing, there is a question of whether the death certs for  many children were falsified.”

790C933A-F356-4D9A-9658-B8755704CB8D The group at Thursday's meeting on the grounds of Sean Ross Abbey.

The group has secured permission for a scan from the site owner who purchased the grounds in recent years.

According to the Commission of Investigation into Mother and Baby Homes, investigators were satisfied that a forensic report provided clear evidence that the coffined remains of children under the age of one are buried in the designated burial ground.

The commission’s report on the home said that local testimony had recounted that orders came in from the home every October for “six to ten 18-inch to 21-inch coffins”, but it also recorded that some infants at Sean Ross were buried without coffins in “quick lime”.

The Department told The Journal that without complete excavation, it was not possible to say conclusively that all of the children who died in Sean Ross were buried in the designated burial ground. It added that it did not consider that further investigation was warranted.

Collins pointed to a “discrepancy” in the Commission’s report where it mentioned that an inspector found that there were “two infant deaths” between July 1962 and July 1963, adding that a freedom of information request for a deaths register showed more infant deaths took place during that time.

‘Small bones’ discovered

Mike Donovan, who was a gardener at the grounds as a teenager in the 1980s, told The Journal he remembered “coming across small bones” in the section now earmarked for scanning while ploughing the land.

He alerted a more senior workman and recalled that the land was shortly after filled in with more clay and then trees sown over.

Scanning work

The scanning will be carried out by Limerick firm Precision Utility Mapping, whose director Jonathan Markham attended the gathering on Thursday in Sean Ross Abbey.

A separate scan took place on another part of the estate earlier this year by a separate firm, which reported back “anomalies” requiring further investigation.

Markham explained that the Angel Plot, which the commission examined, is “ideal ground” for scanning as it has been tended to over recent years but that the adjacent overgrown land earmarked by We Are Still Here will take longer.

Vegetation and shrubbery will need to be cleared to allow a thorough scan some three metres deep.

0916184B-F60E-4105-A168-CC4CFD66A0A3 The land earmarked for expert scanning in the coming weeks.

Markham said the firm will “data-driven” about its work and said an excavation may be required if its “non-intrusive” study finds anything of note.

“We’re geophysicists and engineers so it’s not there will be a breakthrough moment, but if we find something we will let you know that this requires further looking at,” he told the gathering.

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:22 PM

    Would love footage of him after Ireland scored

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    Jun 13th 2016, 11:28 PM

    I think ye should show the image again

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    Jun 14th 2016, 12:22 AM

    Missed the feckin thing 4 times…. Imagine that

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:53 PM

    No story about the Irish fans singing “Stand up for the Ulstermen” at the 24th minute in honour Darren Rodgers the man from Ballymena that died from a fall?

    The Irish soccer fans are our greatest ambassadors. They are doing the country proud.

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    Jun 14th 2016, 12:33 AM

    They are legends anyway but if that’s true my god what great ambassadors for the country

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    Jun 14th 2016, 12:38 AM

    It’s true alright and it’s definitely no exaggeration to say they are the best fans in the world.

    http://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/ifa-thank-irish-fans-for-classy-gesture-in-honour-of-fan-who-sadly-passed-away/82630

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    Jun 14th 2016, 12:53 AM

    @les cheers pal read the article and seen the video there a class act our boys and girls

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    Jun 14th 2016, 7:51 AM

    @Peter I have being told it was Gerry Adams

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:35 PM

    Apparantly the Swedish fans had to put their seats together from the boxes….

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:36 PM

    We must find this leprechaun man and make him King!

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    Jun 14th 2016, 7:55 AM

    @ VAL.#, sorry peter I have being told it was Gerry Adams

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:31 PM

    How do we know it’s not a Swedish fan on some kind of dare?

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:33 PM

    Hey Mick, it Patrick, I got ya a ticket for the Euros! Your a legend thanks tonight, Patrick you git

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:36 PM

    Ah tweety come on..we all know us Irish have to do a dare. He’s havin the craic and all the other teams seem to like us. Isnt that a good thing?

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:46 PM

    Because one section of the stand has Irish people and the other but if the stand has a huge potential to hold hot blonde Swedish girls , of course there’s going to be an Irish guy with his tinder range set to 30m

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:53 PM

    If I was a swedish lass of course I’d be lookin for an Irish lepraucaun

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:56 PM

    After Italy beat Belgium..COYBIG. We’re still in it to win it. Best of luck on Saturday lads..we can do this

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:21 PM

    Only the Irish…

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:55 PM

    Also only possible to get away with that with the nice cool Swedes.
    Imagine trying that against Russia!

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    Jun 13th 2016, 11:22 PM

    Yeah David if he was an England fan in the Russian side, be great craic for him

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:25 PM

    Class,who is he. Has to be named.

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:46 PM

    It’s Darbey, Darbey o Gill

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:25 PM

    Ah sure begorrah and bejeepers sure aren’t we only great craic alltogether, sure they all think we are mad.
    G’wan dat oirish lad..

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    Jun 13th 2016, 11:02 PM

    Found his pot of gold

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:24 PM

    Class

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:26 PM

    Betcha he had great crack.

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    Jun 14th 2016, 12:48 AM

    I was so proud of the Irish fans,,,they did our country proud.

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    Jun 14th 2016, 9:34 AM

    As did the team.

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    Jun 13th 2016, 11:08 PM

    I bet he is a ginger and looking for love.

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    Jun 13th 2016, 11:18 PM

    Ah but is it flat pack love and a bit of DIY?

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:25 PM

    Can’t see him.

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:35 PM

    This man is amazing!

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:39 PM

    Barry Hanson the legend

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    Jun 13th 2016, 10:55 PM

    He’s the green one in the photo, with the big red circle around him! 2 for the price of 1 in speck savers…..:-)

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    Jun 13th 2016, 11:02 PM

    Could they not have zoomed in a bit.

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    ha, wat a header

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    Jun 14th 2016, 6:37 AM

    It’s was Enda ! ” right so lads lets go ” ” we’re playing in yellow tonight then ”
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    He had a swede for lunch at half time. Yum!!!

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    Jun 14th 2016, 6:58 PM

    omg that is the maddest thing I have ever seen or will ever see in my life and I hav seen fkn mad things….that is mad its so crazy…oh gosh…..wait till I share this…oh lord…..I hope iireland win as we are all lovely people…..

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