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Garda Commissioner says he won’t defer 6 November deadline for new staff roster

Rank-and-file gardaí have voted to take industrial action in the face of an ongoing dispute with Commissioner Drew Harris.

LAST UPDATE | 28 Sep 2023

GARDA COMMISSIONER DREW Harris has said gardai will be expected to comply with a roster change planned for 6 November.

It comes after rank-and-file gardai threatened to withdraw their labour if the standoff with the Garda Commissioner over the reimplementation of a pre-Covid roster system is not resolved.

At a special delegate conference of the Garda Representative Association (GRA) yesterday, rank-and-file gardaí voted to strike on 10 November.

They also intend to operate a de-facto work-to-rule by not agreeing to work overtime on Budget Day and Halloween, as well as on 3, 17, and 24 October. 

The ongoing dispute centres around proposals to revise garda rosters, which has built up to a no-confidence vote by gardaí in the Commissioner. 

Harris met four Garda representative associations today.

In a statement, a spokeswoman for An Garda Síochána said that this was the fourth time the Commissioner and Garda management have met all the Garda associations in the last week.

“As part of long standing efforts to get collective agreement on a new roster, the Commissioner and Garda management will meet individually with each of the Garda associations next week,” the spokesperson said. 

“Throughout the three years of talks between Garda management and the Garda associations on a new roster that has involved over 60 meetings, the Commissioner has repeatedly stated that he is willing to compromise to reach agreement on a new roster,” they said. 

“There have been no preconditions to talks put down by the Commissioner and Garda management.

The spokesperson noted that in July, the Garda associations and the entire organisation was “given the agreed three months’ notice that it would be returning to the Westmanstown Roster on 6 November 2023″.

“The Westmanstown Roster is the only roster currently available that was collectively agreed to by all Garda associations and Garda management,” they said. 

“The Commissioner has also repeatedly stated that he and the Garda management team are available for intensive talks with the Garda associations to deliver a new roster that best meets the policing needs of the people of Ireland and gardaí. The Commissioner re-iterated that invitation again today.”

‘Can’t wait beyond 6 November’

Speaking this evening, Garda Commissioner Drew Harris was asked about the GRA’s request to delay the roster change beyond 6 November 6.

Harris said: “The rationale is around visibility and service delivery. As commissioner with responsibility for an efficient and effective policing service provided and being held to account for that, I can’t wait beyond the sixth of November.”

He said the current roster is more expensive and provides “poor service” delivery.

The GRA has vowed to continue to operate the current roster system of four days on and four days off, despite the order to change it.

Commissioner Harris said: “We are a disciplined organisation. Individuals have already been informed what their duties are and they will be expected then to parade for duty on those days.”

Asked if he was proceeding with the roster change due to a concern that he could not be seen to back down, he said: “This isn’t a personal issue for me. This is a professional issue in terms of providing a policing service to people of Ireland.

“We’ve already set out the rationale for why I’ve made this decision: This is a professional policing decision in terms of how we police and provide crime prevention, detection, and also a national security service here.”

Harris added that he “completely and entirely refutes” the claim from the GRA that he had shown contempt to its members.

He also said he would not “speculate” on disciplinary measures for gardai who withdraw their labour.

“We’ll have to see what happens on that day.

“There’s no clear indication that there’s going to be a withdrawal of labour beyond those individuals who are members of the (GRA) executive stating that they intend to do so.

“So we await developments over the next couple of weeks.”

Budget Day

Speaking on RTÉ Radio One’s Morning Ireland earlier today, Justice Minister Helen McEntee said that the Commissioner has assured her there will be a “sufficient presence of gardaí on the ground” on Budget Day.

The matter is a particularly sensitive one in the wake of the aggressive anti-immigration protest outside the Dáil last week that saw TDs across the political spectrum threatened.

Drew Harris this evening said that there would be an adequate policing plan in place.

“We don’t wait till the morning of the 10th of October to see who turns in voluntarily,” said Harris. 

“Individuals are detailed and properly briefed for those sorts of duties and will be notified in advance of their requirement to work.”

Speaking on Morning Ireland, McEntee described the decisions taken among gardaí on industrial action yesterday as “regrettable”.

“I think the facts are very clear here. There’s nobody, and that means the Garda Commissioner nor the Garda associations, who believes that either the current roster or the previous and incumbent roster is the right roster moving forward.”

The minister said that “we all want to negotiate a new roster that is suitable for the needs of the public today and that works for members of An Garda Siochána”.

“The only way that that can be found is through negotiation,” she said.

“There will be a meeting today between the commissioner of An Garda Siochána with the four associations and it’s absolutely imperative that all four associations including the GRA are around the table for that discussion.”

During the meeting earlier today with Garda representatives, Harris asked for the position of garda representative bodies on the question of escalating the dispute resolution to the Workplace Resolutions Committee.

There was some disagreement between the representative bodies on how far they want to escalate the matter.

The Journal understands that the GRA wants to continue to have group discussions and told the Commissioner it is prepared to “actively engage with discussions” if a deadline of 6 November for introducing the contentious roster is halted.

Harris said there will be bilateral meetings next week between him and the individual representative bodies.

Additional reporting by Press Association and Niall O’Connor

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    Mute Sean Kelly
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    Jan 8th 2017, 7:56 AM

    I’m only in my the boozer. I’m half drunk, half high and there’s a strange smell of raw meat off me. What the heck am I doing here reading about baby names for?

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    Jan 8th 2017, 8:27 AM

    We should just use our pps numbers

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    Mute Santa Carla
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    Jan 8th 2017, 9:11 AM

    What the article doesn’t state is that this list was issued by Dept of Foreign Affairs and is a list of the first names of babies who applied for passports. It is not a list of all babies born last year. That is done by the CSO and comes out later in the year. This one means nothing

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    Jan 8th 2017, 9:36 AM

    It clearly states at the top of the graph that the names are from birth certs.

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    Mute Santa Carla
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    Jan 8th 2017, 11:50 AM

    Yes. Birth certs provided for passport applications, not all birth certs issued last year. Those stats aren’t collated until later this year. Google it

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    Jan 8th 2017, 11:53 AM

    Yes. From birth certs provided for passport applications. Not all birth certs issued last year. Those stats aren’t collated yet. Google it. Dept of Foreign Affairs released these ones, that’s your clue.

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    Jan 8th 2017, 11:58 AM
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    Jan 8th 2017, 1:28 PM

    @Santa Carla: That seems legit at face value. I was wondering why the department of foreign affairs were collating birth cert statistics.

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    Jan 8th 2017, 9:05 AM

    Why are people such sheep when it comes to choosing names?

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    Jan 8th 2017, 10:18 AM

    If they really were sheep,we’d be calling them Wooly and Shaun

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    Jan 8th 2017, 12:03 PM

    When you have a kid call it Enda so

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    Jan 8th 2017, 8:21 AM

    Recently I heard a child being called Noah by his Mother.
    The first thing I thought of was ‘where is the flood’

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    Jan 8th 2017, 8:24 AM

    If only Daniel and jack were in reverse

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    Jan 8th 2017, 7:14 PM

    @eastsmer #IRExit: When I hear jack I think where is the bean stalk,and as for Emily I think where is the ponies .English to the core this nation of sheep are.

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    Jan 8th 2017, 9:57 AM

    Very soon it will be Mohammed.

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    Mute Donncha Ó Coileáin
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    Jan 8th 2017, 11:12 AM

    Highly unlikely. You’re probably the type who sees the country as overwhelmed with Muslims, when in fact it’s just 1.1% of the population. That’s about 51,000 people out of 4.7 million, and about 4,650,000 people who are not Muslim. That, coupled with the fact that (and this may surprise you) they don’t call all their sons Mohammed, makes it even more unlikely.

    But don’t let the facts get in the way of your arsey comment.

    On another topic though, I’m sad to see so few Irish names in the lists. None for the boys, and two for the girls. So many nice ones to choose from.

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    Jan 8th 2017, 11:20 AM

    Ah fèck it, there are at least three Irish names for boys. Sunday morning brain is a curse.

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    Jan 8th 2017, 12:35 PM

    @Eamon Mac Gowan: Followed by Abdul,Haifa,Ibrahim,Precious.

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    Jan 8th 2017, 1:55 PM

    Please please please save us from Jack.

    It’s been going on 20 years.
    1/5 of boys are called Jack.
    Its cringeworthy.
    It’s awful.

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    Jan 9th 2017, 1:12 PM

    @Tom Burke: Do you know how it started by the way?

    Titanic

    James Cameron has a lot to answer for

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    Jan 8th 2017, 1:37 PM

    I’d just like to point out that on the Journal’s graph they show lego on the male side. Can’t girls play with lego too? That’s some deep internalised misogyny right there. I knew the Journal was part of the patriarchy! Hell they even use pink and blue. And there’s only two genders!? Sexist and transphobic as ever.

    Fyi this is satire just in case I activate Poe’s law

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    Jan 8th 2017, 9:11 AM

    Just wondering how or where the Department of Foreign Affairs comes into it.

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    Jan 8th 2017, 9:22 AM

    It’s not possible to have a list of baby names yet as parent have 3 months to register their kids so a list like this is BS

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    Jan 8th 2017, 12:00 PM

    It’s not the proper CSO list Paul. This is just a list of the names on birth certs for babies who made passport applications last year

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    Jan 8th 2017, 8:11 AM

    Noah and Amelia/Emilia are the best names here

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    Jan 8th 2017, 9:02 AM

    Amelia sounds like some kind of blood disorder…

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    Jan 8th 2017, 3:10 PM

    Yes, but each to their own. I’m guessing that most Emilias are named after the actress’s stage name. The woman who plays Daenerys. I think it would date fast. At least naming a child after a legendary Irish character would mean they or their great-grandchildren could look it up later, while most names from a TV series will seem obscure even one generation on.

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    Jan 8th 2017, 11:48 AM

    Enda is a lovely name. Enda Kenny with be all forgotten about in 5 years time.

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    Jan 8th 2017, 12:01 PM

    It’s a pity his policies won’t be.

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    Jan 8th 2017, 11:30 AM

    AAHH no Enda how many Simon’s

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    Jan 8th 2017, 5:02 PM

    Michelle, surely these are passport related, why else would dept of foreign affairs issue?

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    Apr 3rd 2017, 1:38 PM

    my son was born in march 2016,and his name is Thor and that’s not on your list

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