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Flooding in Midleton, Co Cork on 18 October 2023 Press Association

Storm Babet: Cork roads remain impassable after 'worst flooding in 40 years'

The storm brought heavy rainfall to counties like Cork and Waterford, leading to major flooding.

LAST UPDATE | 19 Oct 2023

COMMUNITIES IN THE south of the country are reeling from the effects of major flooding due to heavy rainfall yesterday.

A Status Orange Rain warning was in place for Cork and Kerry early yesterday amid Storm Babet, followed by a Status Yellow warning across the country. Wexford, Wicklow and Waterford were also subject to an Orange warning for several hours in the afternoon.

Several politicians, including Taoiseach Leo Varadkar, have travelled to Cork today to the epicentre of the damage.

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The storm brought knee-high flooding to parts of Cork, particularly the town of Midleton, where members of the Defence Forces were deployed as buildings flooded and roads were cut off.

Cork County Council appealed for road users to take care when travelling today and to be conscious of pedestrians and cyclists while multiple roads were still closed and impassable due to flooding.

Lisa O’Connell saw the front window of her salon smashed due to the conditions. 

She told The Journal that the salon was suddenly hit by flood, causing staff and customers to wade “waist-deep” in water to get to safety. 

“We’re a very busy salon full of clints. But just like in the blink of an eye, the water just started coming up and pouring into the salon and it was like we were nearly outside was like knee-deep within about kind of five minutes.”

Damian O’Brien, who runs two clothing stores in the town, said it was devastating. 

“We couldn’t get ahead of things here. All businesses are saying the same thing. It’s nature and all that but sandbags weren’t there when we needed them, until it was almost too late.”

Cork County Council, which said more than a month’s worth of rain fell in the space of 24 hours, established a response co-ordination centre at Midleton Fire Station and a rest facility in Midleton Community Centre for residents who had been evacuated.

The council’s Severe Weather Assessment Team has convened to assess the impact of the flooding. Efforts to address immediate concerns today are focused on restoring essential services, securing affected areas, and supporting impacted residents and businesses, according to the council.

Between 5pm yesterday and 9am this morning, the council responded to 57 calls for assistance.

The council is offering free disposal of flood-damaged goods at all of its Civic Amenity Sites until 26 October. Raffeen Civic Amenity Site is closed due to flooding but the site in Youghal has reopened to the public. Skips are to be made available in the worst affected areas.

Members of the public have been asked to continue to avoid Main Street in Midleton to allow for clean-up operations; to avoid driving through floodwaters; and to be especially conscious of vulnerable road users like cyclists and pedestrians.

Trains between Cork Kent in the city centre and stations at Cobh and Midleton are still suspended this morning. Bus transfers are operating on the Cork commuter network but are not possible to Glounthaune or Midleton due to flooding, according to Iarnród Éireann.

Local TD James O’Connor has said it is “devastating” to see the extent of the damage caused in Midleton and has questioned why a Status Red weather warning was not issued.

“Widespread damage across East Cork will require major support from the government,” O’Connor wrote on social media.

Storm Babet is the second named storm this season and is also affecting the UK. In Scotland, the Met Office issued a rare red weather warning for parts of the country where it believed there was “danger to life from fast-flowing or deep floodwater”.

Meanwhile, in Waterford, a council official stated that several roads were still flooded and expected to remain that way for the duration of today. 

Waterford City and County Council’s Director of Services, Fergus Galvin, told RTÉ Radio One’s Morning Ireland this morning that he and his colleagues cannot recall any worse flooding event.

“It’s unprecedented in recent times. None of them would have any recollection of a scale of flooding of this order in the last 30 or 40 years,” Galvin said.

“Some of the roads are still underwater this morning. We would expect that will remain the case for much of the rest of the day,” he said.

“We would be aware from some preliminary surveys yesterday that we will have structural damage to a number of places and local roads in the west of the county but we will have to wait until the floodwaters recede to get a full picture of those.”

Storms that can cause major impacts like flooding are expected to become more frequent and more intense as climate change disrupts weather patterns. 

The Climate Action Plan 2023 states that the “most immediate risks to Ireland from climate change are predominantly those associated with changes in extremes, such as floods, droughts, and storms”.

Extreme rainfall and flooding can cause “disruption of transport services, unsafe driving conditions and gradual deterioration of infrastructure”, it details, while “projected increases in the frequency of extreme precipitation events may result in more water-borne disease (eg E.coli) from contamination of drinking water because of overland flows of pollutants”.

‘Orange is quite dangerous’

Met Éireann’s Chief Hydrometeorologist Eoin Sherlock has explained that the intensity of yesterday’s flooding was due to a combination of factors.

Speaking to Morning Ireland, Sherlock said: “We had an awful lot of rain falling in a relatively short period of time. Coupled with that, the ground was saturated beforehand because we had some heavy rain in the in the preceding days. So unfortunately, when that rain fell in a short period of time, it had nowhere to go except into the rivers and down to lower ground.

“We had high tide during the morning, so that has the effect of limiting the outflow of the river into the sea – so basically, there’s nowhere for that excess water to go except up and up and unfortunately it spills over the banks at that point,” he outlined.

On how Met Éireann decides what type of warning to issue ahead of an extreme weather event, he said that the forecaster uses Irish and European weather models to inform its predictions.

“The model guidance was suggesting that it would be Orange. When we look at the figures that fell on the ground in that particular period of time, I think we had one or two stations where it creeped into Red territory,” he said.

“Other parts of Cork were in Orange level territory in terms of amount of rainfall and then parts of Cork were below or even just creeping into Yellow. The way we do it is we look at, is it going to be a widespread event? Will it affect all of Co Cork?

“The guidance that we got and, when we were watching this unfold, what the observations were tallying with, was that I think maybe in two stations, we crept over 80, and that would be the upper threshold for an orange warning,” he said.

Sherlock said that the thresholds for weather warnings and how Met Éireann communicates about them will change as Ireland’s long-term climate also changes.

“The climate has changed, there’s no doubt about that, that’s unequivocal. We’ve gotten warmer; we’ve seen temperatures increase by point seven degrees since the last round of climate averages in the last 10 years,” Sherlock said.

“We can expect more extreme rainfall because the temperature has increased. So, what we’re doing now is we’re looking at the thresholds that we have for the warnings and are going to change them in reflection of what’s happening in the climate,” he said.

“Another thing that we’re trying to do is to look at not only what the weather will be but what the weather will do. If you’ve been looking at our warnings over the last couple of days, we have been warning about flooding and we’ve been warning about difficult driving conditions.

“Maybe people don’t understand what 80 kilometre per hour winds are, but if we if we can inform people that there’s going to be flooding, they can take the necessary steps.

“As a quick recap: Orange is quite dangerous. There’s only one or two millimeters between an Orange rainfall warning and a Red.”

The floods were also raised during Leaders’ Questions today, where Tánaiste Micheál Martin said the rainfall was “very, very severe”. He applauded the community workers, the civil defence and the defence forces for responding so quickly. 

Since he was young, Martin said he could remember flooding occurring in Cork. He said there was a need for an “honest debate” on the objections being submitted against flood relief plans around the country. 

While he said he had not objections to submissions being made, he said when it results in years of delays, he does have a problem. People Before Profit Mick Barry raised concerns about the flood relief programmes in the county, for which Martin replied: 

“You may recall your own comments in relation to the Cork City flood relief scheme where you described your OPW’s proposals as crude and not taking into account the people’s relationship with the River Lee.”

He said he wasn’t pointing it out to attack anyone, but said the realities needed to be highlighted that a debate on the issue is needed.

Enterprise Minister Simon Coveney also raised the issue during a visit to Midleton this evening, when he pointed to the success of flood relief infrastructure in other places.

“In Cork city centre, there’s been a lot of resistance to physical flood infrastructure to try and protect businesses and houses in the city centre,” he said.

“And I really think we need to reflect on that and try and protect businesses, families and homes.”

He added that many businesses hit by floods would not survive such levels of continuous flooding in the future, and that there was a need to look at what could be done to ensure that protection from flooding was stronger.

- With reporting in Midleton by Niall O’Connor

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    Oct 19th 2023, 10:11 AM

    the climate changes every 3 months so yes it is climate change just not the man-made type… like we’ve never had a storm in October in ireland… get a grip

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    @Alan B: :)

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:34 AM

    Jesus! I don’t believe it!!!! A section on the Journal with COMMENTS OPEN!!!!

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:49 AM

    @Brian k.: Not for long.Let me try something:

    windy.com/multimodel/31.519/34.432?30.939,34.432,8

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    Oct 19th 2023, 12:49 PM

    @Brian k.: yet this is the most interesting thing you have to say.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 1:28 PM

    @Martin O Connell: well I would have more to say IF the comments were…. Open!

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    Oct 19th 2023, 3:11 PM

    @Brian k.: Yes, and it’s been FLOODED with comments.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 5:57 PM

    @Brian k.: my thoughts exactly. 10 of the first 40 articles allow comments. Pathetic

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    Oct 19th 2023, 10:34 AM

    Back in the 80s this type of flooding was a common thing.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:54 AM

    @Thomas Reddy: Link to some pictures of Midleton from the 80s

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    @Juri Hertel: Look up Hurricane Charley, and it’s not the Taoseach I’m on about!

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    Oct 19th 2023, 2:54 PM

    @Thomas Reddy: Yes, but these extremities are more frequent and severe and flood plains to take excess water run off are mostly filled in or built on.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 8:53 AM

    Despite all the gags and facile insults/comments, most commenters are equally powerless. The real power remains with the academic icons who died a few centuries ago and their hold on society today.

    Anyone who tries to dislodge dangerous convictions like natural selection, scientific method modelling and things like that will experience over-the-top reactions. These poor judgments extend to the Journal, which permits comments on individuals rather than on ideas, so whoever in the Journal decided to phase out comments on anything relevant is diminishing themselves, the readership and the country. 

    This country is not one of those countries where information is controlled.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 8:56 AM

    Apologies as the Journal curtails my comments to a phone app and the previous comment is an old one.

    It is not the assault on society by scientific method modelling nor even the cheerleaders in the media pushing the silly notion of human control of weather/temperatures; it is how easily genuine researchers can restore balanced perspectives with a bit of intelligence and effort outside the modelling subculture.

    The Journal has shown that it is impossible to support balanced perspectives through visual narratives and comments from genuine investigators throughout history since empirical modelling emerged in the 17th century through an experimental theorist.

    It is, therefore, an online publication acting against the interests of Irish society.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 9:51 AM

    When a society believes it can control the planet’s weather/temperature by using CO2 as a thermostat under humanity’s control, then people can call me what they like.

    It isn’t that the conviction is dangerous and disruptive like natural selection is; it is that genuine research becomes obscured, and students need to learn the relationship between the planet’s motions in a Sun-centred system with the terrestrial sciences of biology, climate and geology.

    With all the language of climate action, the world is boiling, tackling climate change, etc; balanced perspectives surrounding climate become lost to modelling rubbish, such as Ireland’s maritime climate, which provided the foundation for yesterday’s Atlantic storm.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 10:27 AM

    I especially do not want students in future to become victims of scientific method modelling like those posting meaningless reactions are.

    “Rule III. The qualities of bodies which are found to belong to all bodies within the reach of our experiments, are to be esteemed the universal qualities of all bodies whatsoever.” Newton

    Suppose a theorist wishes to equate the fall of an apple  (experiment) with the orbital motion of the planets (universal qualities) or conditions in a standard greenhouse (experiment) with the Earth’s atmosphere (universal qualities). In that case, Newton’s Rule III/ Laws suits experimental theorists and their meaningless imperatives to control the weather.

    I only ask readers to investigate it at this level, as it is complicated beyond this point.

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    @Alan: re “are you trying to flood the board with nonsense?”
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    @Gearoid O’Ceilleachair: Yes, you alone have discovered the flaw in the scientific method.

    Isn’t it remarkable that your “discovery” supports your theistic beliefs.

    When you win that Nobel Prize for disproving The Theory of Evolution, Astronomy, Physics etc. come back and we’ll all apologise.

    Until then, you’re just another Theist desperately trying to hold back the tide of scientific advancement.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 12:41 PM

    There is no justifiable reason why students should carry anxiety for the sake of a subculture no more than any reasonable adult should. The temporary destruction of solar system research by an experimental theorist in the 17th century can now be removed by any considerate person using 21st-century visual narratives.  

    sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

    theplanetstoday.com/

    That is Mercury moving behind the Sun as seen from a satellite tracking with the Earth on the opposite side of the Sun. By scrolling the dates forward on the animation, readers can appreciate what they see from the satellite, with Mars coming into view soon—nothing dour, nothing dull, no hysteria or people at each other’s throats.

    Enjoy your solar system and terrestrial surroundings for a change.

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    @Gearoid O’Ceilleachair: certainly getting that way.

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    @Gearoid O’Ceilleachair: You believe that their anxiety is part of a modelling subculture, that doesn’t make it so. I have not seen you once provide any evidence which contradicts climate change. Many people were and are anxious about where they go after death due to certain ideas which aren’t evidence based, why don’t you rail against those?

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    @Diarmuid Hunt:

    The scientific method modelling of experimental theorists, of which climate change modelling is a symptom, didn’t begin as laws of nature, gravity, physics, or something else; it started as rules of reasoning.

    strangebeautiful.com/other-texts/newton-principia-rules-reasoning.pdf

    The idea of laws is that they carry legal vocabulary with them, such as evidence, claims, a jury of peers, and so on, as a component of the empirical subculture. It is why many of you behave as though it is a trial when I am demonstrating what actual research looks like.

    There is no death; there is just life before we enter the world in our physical existence and life when we leave it. In our journey, we pick up the Eternal in existence, which makes us love creation all the more.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 5:28 PM

    @Gearoid O’Ceilleachair: All those laws of nature etc were discovered by reasoning and experimentation. Asking someone to show how they know something is the only way you can tell if they know it, if I came here and said the sky is green and you replied “ok I believe you” I’d be much more worried about society than if you asked me for proof. Proof is extremely important when you want to convince somebody reasonable of something. If you want to throw reason out the window and just repeat the same things over and over even after correction then I would consider you unreasonable. I don’t think you’d know actual research if it was in front of you which I have no doubt it has been many times.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:11 AM

    Met Eireann will have to come with a different system of weather warnings for Cork. The county is too big for one weather warning to cover the whole county. Its over a 150km from Castletownbere to Mitchelstown, one facing the Atlantic, one well inland, two totally different places for weather. It’s a difficult job for Met Eireann, I don’t envy them.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:24 AM

    @Sean Walsh: Read the article again.
    Met Eireann is using 6 different forecasting systems from 1.4km to 22km,see

    windy.com/

    1. Click onto the map where you want.
    2. Click onto “Forecast for this location”(yellow arrow)
    3.Click onto “Compare” (in the bottom line)

    Windy (former windyty) is free of charge.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:32 AM

    @Sean Walsh: The electorial division map might be a better bet as at least it divides Cork up.

    It also divides Tipp in two but leaves other big counties like Mayo and Kerry the same as the county boundaries.

    Can’t imagine it would tax better minds than mine to come up with a meteorological warning map of some sort.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:33 AM

    @Juri Hertel: When I worked in Mitchelstown, I was closed to my home town in Co. Offaly in KM terms than a colleague was from hers on the tip of West Cork!

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    @Gerard Hayden: What are you trying to say?

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:39 AM

    @Juri Hertel: They can use as many forecasting systems as they like…. It will still rain and have strong winds in Ireland no matter what that do.

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    @Brian k.: Your words are full of wisdom.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:27 AM

    Reminder that much of what happens to Cork re flooding is due to dodgy planning permission and all that that implies.

    Tiny, corrupt fiefdoms with no central oversight, has lead to so much of this.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:34 AM

    @Chris O’Brien: Indeed.About 100,000 m3 of water yesterday in the streets of Midleton had a former basin until ca. 25 years ago.This had been filled up by millionaires with their villas and GAA clubs,just south of the Midleton distillery – who had also filled up the natural withhold.And by the County Council who had built social homes into this natural flood plain.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:35 AM

    @Juri Hertel:
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    Midleton is pictured in the article.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 12:18 PM

    Dredging the rivers would help,they havent been dredged in decades.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 1:10 PM

    Tanaiste announces in the Dail an hour ago that up to €10 million would be made available. They sent €16 million to Gaza last night. I don’t get it.

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    @Thomas O’Donnell: If you’re not in Gaza, you’re not eligible to get it or any of it.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 10:36 AM

    There were several people on various broadcasts yesterday saying that if a red alert were to have been issued it would have had to apply the whole of County Cork. Apparently this is actually true – which is completely ridiculous, given the size of the county. What applies to Midleton and other areas in east Cork as well as Cork city will often be completely different to places such as Mitchelstown and Charleville.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:29 AM

    @John Manahan: If Mitchelstown floods, we have bigger problems! Its not near a major river and here is a good slope in the area.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 12:16 PM

    @John Manahan: Weather forecasting isn’t an exact science, they aren’t going to know which areas are going to get hit worst.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 9:03 AM

    God isn’t this climate change an awful thing?

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    Oct 19th 2023, 9:15 AM

    @Corey Dalton: Yes, it is.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 9:46 AM

    @Corey Dalton: Sure is.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:38 AM

    I’m a firm climate change advocate, have been saying for years that when floods like this happen deniers say its just weather, problem now will be insurance companies don’t care and will not insure places like this. When you can’t insure a place, then it’s basically a stranded asset… in otherwords worthless.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:51 AM

    @David Hynes:
    re. stranded assets:40% of the Irish economy is based within 5 km of the coast line.
    Now you understand.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 9:52 AM

    Babet minus the T is Babe.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 2:41 PM

    @Jon Jon: Well. Your next lesson is to differentiate the usage of: there, their and they’re.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 2:12 PM

    This is Just a Photo Op for Langer Leo

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    Oct 19th 2023, 2:43 PM

    @leo oleary: Yeah. He’s in all the photos on this article.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 9:31 AM

    They can go scuba diving

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    Oct 19th 2023, 9:36 AM

    @Mary Toilet: Yes they can and see bottom feeders like you, first hand.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 9:47 AM

    @Mary Toilet: They could do with more bridges under which Trolls like you could live.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 9:50 AM

    @Fishfingers Fortea: lol

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    Oct 19th 2023, 9:51 AM

    @Fishfingers Fortea: brilliant!

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    Oct 19th 2023, 10:34 AM

    @Mary Toilet: Scuba diving in shitty waters?

    noteworthy.ie/red-flag-6186539-Oct2023/?mc_cid=bbaa7f67eb

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    Mute Nickb
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    Oct 19th 2023, 2:37 PM

    Authorities need to get into most of our rivers that run through towns in this country with some seriously big machinery and get involved with large scale dredging if operations instead of counting newts!
    Small streams , roadside drains and ditches all need the same type of attention, they have been neglected for decades?

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    Mute Emmet Murphy
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    Oct 19th 2023, 2:46 PM

    @Nickb: A lot of these rivers, had flood plains and they are all filled in now or have houses on them.

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    Mute Denis Slattery
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    Oct 19th 2023, 2:40 PM

    Worked in Cork when I was a young man.
    I remember the heavy rain and the mighty crack

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    Mute Nick Vasilakis
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    Oct 19th 2023, 3:14 PM

    It really is incredible that people expect the met office to be able to give yellow, amber and red warnings at the townland level. What do they think meteorology is?
    Ireland is one of the countries with the most unpredictable weather – within very narrow bounds – in the world.
    Meteorology is at best, inspired, well researched, and statistical guesswork. It isn’t the met office’s fault that the weather varies from hour to hour!

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    Mute Brian k.
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    Oct 19th 2023, 1:32 PM

    Wonder will the former 2FM DJ be found guilty or not guilty of engaging in sexual conduct with this woman that says she was only 16. Hmmmmmm?!

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    Oct 19th 2023, 2:09 PM

    @Brian k.: I was wondering the same myself.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 5:58 PM

    @John finn: I think he will be found Guilty. He knew what he was doing.

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    Mute Ger Murray
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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:45 AM

    Where was the RED weather warning, we’ll be flooded with warning from now on from Met to cover there ass . Midleton co cork

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:56 AM

    @Ger Murray: It was on windy.com

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    Oct 19th 2023, 3:16 PM

    @Ger Murray: Simplistic comment. See mine below.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 10:12 AM

    “Maybe people don’t understand what 80km per hour winds are”

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    Oct 19th 2023, 10:16 AM

    @Ronan McGrath: We’re not stupid. They are winds that start from Point A and end at Point B (80km away) exactly one hour later. If you let the wind overtake you, it’s not windy anymore…

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    Oct 19th 2023, 10:49 AM

    @Ronan McGrath: a lot of windy lads on here.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 11:25 AM

    @Ronan McGrath: re ” We’re not stupid. They are winds that start from Point A and end at Point B (80km away) exactly one hour later.”
    Try it again,contact your science teacher for grinds.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 2:33 PM

    @Juri Hertel: Sarcastic comments are lost on you Juri

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    Oct 19th 2023, 1:47 PM

    Is it Hurricane Charlie what they’re referring to 40 year’s ago?

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    Oct 19th 2023, 8:18 PM

    Richie Sunak wants Israel to Win!!
    Win what ?
    There are no winners in Palestine or Israel.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 6:26 PM

    To the people who are complaining that the Journal is closing increasing their comments section. It is not censur – although sometimes close to it – it is because the comments are abused for spreading lies, fear, offence, racism, vile: in one word any kind of negativity one can come up with. Many people, like me, consider to ignore the comments at all, or even to stop using the Journal for information because of this.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 4:48 PM

    Always thought Cork floated on water

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    Oct 19th 2023, 4:59 PM

    @lesidees: down there, they think they walk on water

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    Oct 19th 2023, 9:18 PM

    @lesidees: it does, you know the saying, $1HT floats.

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