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Boris Johnson during the pandemic. Number 10

Boris Johnson was 'bamboozled' by Covid graphs and sometimes appeared a 'broken' man

A note from the former chief scientific advisor said watching Johnson get his head around stats was ‘awful’.

BORIS JOHNSON WAS “bamboozled” by the graphs and data presented to him during the pandemic and was sometimes a “broken” man, the UK Covid-19 Inquiry has heard.

Diary entries by former chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance were shown to the inquiry today as Sir Patrick described dealing with the former prime minister.

The inquiry heard how Mr Johnson sometimes struggled to retain scientific information, was “clutching at straws” and at one point queried whether Covid was spreading “because of the great libertarian nation we are”.

One of Sir Patrick’s diary entries from May 4, 2020 said: “Late afternoon meeting with the PM on schools. My God, this is complicated. Models will not provide the answer. PM is clearly bamboozled.”

Other entries, also written in May 2020, said: “PM asking whether we’ve overdone it on the lethality of this disease. He swings between optimism pessimism, and then this.

“PM still confused on different types of test. He holds it in his head for a session and then it goes.”

In June, Sir Patrick wrote: “Watching the PM get his head round stats is awful. He finds relative and absolute risk almost impossible to understand.”

Later, in September 2020, Mr Johnson is talked through some graphs, after which Sir Patrick wrote: “It is difficult, he asks questions like ‘which line is the dark red line?’ – is he colourblind? Then ‘so you think positivity has gone up overnight?’ then ‘oh god bloody hell’. But it is all the same stuff he was shown six hours ago.”

Under questioning by Andrew O’Connor KC, counsel to the inquiry, Sir Patrick said: “I think I’m right in saying that the prime minister gave up science at 15.

“I think he’d be the first to admit it wasn’t his forte and that he struggled with the concepts and we did need to repeat them. Often.”

However, Sir Patrick said this issue was not unique to the UK and advisers in other European countries had suggested at least one other leader had also struggled.

“So I do not think that there was necessarily a unique inability to grasp some of these concepts with the prime minister at the time, but it was hard work sometimes to try and make sure that he had understood what a particular graph or piece of data was saying.”

Another notebook entry from Sir Patrick described a “broken” Mr Johnson being distressed by seeing everyone in masks at a Battle of Britain memorial service in September 2020.

It read: “5 hr of meetings with the PM. He came back from Battle of Britain memorial service and was distressed by seeing everyone separated and in masks – ‘mad and spooky, we have got to end it’.

“Starts challenging numbers and questioning whether they really translate into deaths. Says it is not exponential etc etc.

“Looked broken – head in hands a lot. ‘Is it because of the great libertarian nation we are that it spreads so much’. ‘Maybe we are licked as a species’… ‘We are too shit to get our act together.’

“We went round in circles and then the famous whiteboard emerges.

“Discussed Package A (mild [increase] measures) and Package C (full lockdown) and when and how to do a circuit breaker […] eventually sort of agree circuit breaker and stricter measures […) but PM keeps clutching at straws.”

One entry from September 7, 2020, said: “Chief constables have said current rules too complex and difficult to police.

“PM looking glum. Then suddenly – ‘Is the whole thing a mirage? The curves just follow a natural pattern despite what you do’. Incredulity in the room.

“The whole meeting carefully manages the PM (is it always like this?) and he eventually approves the measures – really just reinforcing and enforcing what we should be doing anyway…”

It concludes: “I leave and comment again that PM does not look like a man enjoying his role.”

During the course of Monday morning, the inquiry also heard:

– There was a short period after Mr Johnson suffered Covid where he was “really unwell” and struggled to “concentrate on things”.

– Asked whether there was tension between himself and England’s Chief Medical Officer Sir Chris Whitty, Sir Patrick said Sir Chris was of the view that “pulling the trigger to do things too early could lead to adverse consequences” such as the indirect harm of people isolating, loneliness and deaths from other causes. Sir Patrick said these were appropriate concerns for Sir Chris but that he had wanted to move on Covid earlier.

– Sir Patrick left the permanent secretary of the Department of Health, Sir Chris Wormald, “incandescent with rage” for suggesting more stringent measures were needed to curb virus spread in March 2020. Sir Patrick said Sir Chris had told him it “was the manner of raising it in the meeting rather than the substance that he was concerned about”, but Sir Patrick said: “I stand by the fact that I think it was the right thing to say at the time.”

– Sir Patrick was concerned over the Government’s “operational response” to limiting the spread of Covid-19 during the pandemic’s early months.

– There was an “urgent recognition” in mid-March 2020 that intense measures were needed to stop the spread of coronavirus and “that we were much further ahead in the pandemic than we realised”.

– Sir Patrick said of former health secretary Matt Hancock: “I think he had a habit of saying things which he didn’t have a basis for and he would say them too enthusiastically, too early, without the evidence to back them up, and then have to backtrack from them days later. I don’t know to what extent that was sort of over-enthusiasm versus deliberate – I think a lot of it was over-enthusiasm. He definitely said things which surprised me because I knew that the evidence base wasn’t there.” When asked if this meant he “said things that weren’t true”, Sir Patrick answered “yes”.

– There was “an inadequate scale of facility” to do test and trace through Public Health England, Sir Patrick wrote.

– Sir Patrick wrote that Mr Johnson “didn’t really think” long Covid “was a big problem”, adding that the former prime minister “wasn’t keen” to take on board evidence about the longer-term impacts of Covid-19 infections.

– In July 2020, Sir Patrick wrote that then-chancellor Rishi Sunak said “it is all about handling the scientists, not handling the virus” during an economics meeting, but had not realised Sir Chris Whitty was in the room.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 11:12 AM

    Is this the same Flanagan who’s lobbying the Egyptian authorities on behalf of Muslim Brotherhood extremists?

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    Jan 19th 2015, 12:38 PM

    That would be the same guy alright! Pandering to extremists! The very people who want to change our laws to Sharia use them against us. Don’t get so tolerant that you tolerate intolerance.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 12:42 PM

    The Irish citizen indefinitely interned without due process by a military dictatorship?

    No it’s the same Charlie Flanagan who refused to expel the Israeli ambassador for murdering hundreds of children recently.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 12:46 PM

    Do you mean the person who entered Egypt on an Egyptian passport ?

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    Jan 19th 2015, 2:07 PM

    Still an Irish citizen, whether you believe with his opinions or not.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 2:13 PM

    if we didn’t allow terrorists to refuel in shannon the threat would be nil

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    Jan 19th 2015, 6:48 PM

    They weren’t terrorists, they were the Americans. Letting the Americans refuel there is why we might be a target. Try and keep up.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 7:09 PM

    I should keep up? ))) keep reading it, the penny has to drop eventually )))))) Numpty

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    Jan 19th 2015, 7:17 PM

    Now, now my child. Just because I corrected you, there is no need to resort to name calling. I was only doing it to clear up your confusion.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 12:45 PM

    Terror threat to Ireland is low ! , well if the number of Muslims continue to grow that “low ” might change

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    Jan 19th 2015, 3:09 PM

    Only 2% of EU terror attacks since 2010 were Islamic, ther dont report lone wolfs, seperatisis and nationalist attacks cos theyre not as sexy.
    Same in the US their biggest threat remains right wing extremists

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    Jan 19th 2015, 4:07 PM

    That statistic is completely misleading

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    Jan 19th 2015, 5:30 PM

    140, 000 murders in the USA since 9/11 fewer than 100 with any fundamentalist connection. Sharia law? The mind boggles. Who/what system benefits from keeping people churned up about this while they steal kids’ patrimonies?
    There is a cowardice that responds to this in the West.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 11:11 AM

    It might be an idea to look around the Parnell Square area.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 11:20 AM

    Or Dame Street, Solny?

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    Jan 19th 2015, 11:54 AM

    Tap, that’s where I live.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 12:20 PM

    Thanks for the heads up Comrade Shinnerbot.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 1:54 PM

    Keep your eyes peeled Prov, rumour has it that there are some suspicious characters hanging around that area.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 2:14 PM

    All I see are freedom fighting patriots, but don’t worry, if I see any terrorists I’ll be quick to deflect.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 5:40 PM

    the south circular road, post office on leopards corner on dole day etc etc, w.union shoo hooo.

    “policy of integration” haven’t ye tried that already? best of luck with trying what’s not possible. Don’t let them return here, home? this is not their home.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 11:09 AM
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    Jan 19th 2015, 12:52 PM

    It’s well known by the man on the street that jihadists are hiding out in Ireland. What’s not well known is the Americans and Britain is watching very carefully and they will take action if necessary.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 3:12 PM

    Not to mention G2 and Garda Special Branch who have a long track record of nearly unbroken success w terrorism si

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    Jan 19th 2015, 1:27 PM

    The article mentions integration, something that will never ever happen. Multiculturism does not work and there is zero evidence that it does. On a side note has any other Irish person given any type of vote on mass immigration or integration or is this forced integration? by the way the U.N convention on human rights states that forced integration is genocide, under article 2 i think.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 5:44 PM

    no we were not given vote cos they’d know the outcome, so forced it, and the UK now says they should have put it to the people.

    the cartoons should be published here in solidarity with freedom of speech. if they think theres no threat here, then theres one way to find out, or would they be not so sure? they’re not sure, they’re here too and lots and lots of sympathisers hiding behind face.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 1:49 PM

    Be alert, your country needs lerts

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    Jan 19th 2015, 2:59 PM

    I can’t believe the comments painting all Muslims with the same brush. Just as the KKK does not represent all Christians, fundamental terrorists such as those in France do no represent all Muslims.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 2:15 PM

    Why is it low???

    Because we have such a small Muslim population.

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    Jan 19th 2015, 12:16 PM

    Ireland on high alert. Keep that one eye open paudge

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