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Ivana Bacik ‘very concerned’ Labour won’t be able to support a yes vote in care referendum

Bacik said the Irish Constitution as it stands is “an embarrassment”.

LEADER OF THE Labour Party, Ivana Bacik has said her party may not be able to support the two referendums set to take place on International Women’s Day because of concerns over the wording.

As chair of the Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality (which has now completed its work) Bacik was heavily involved in the process leading up to the referendums. 

In an interview with The Journal, the Dublin Bay South TD said although the Constitutional provisions relating to a woman’s place in the home and dealing with care are “an embarrassment”, she has serious concerns about the government’s proposed new wording.

Following recommendations from the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality, voters are set to go to the polls on 8 March next year. This comes after significant delays to the publication of the proposed changes by the government.

Voters will be asked if they wish to:

  • amend Article 41 of the Constitution to provide for a wider concept of family
  • delete Article 41.2 of the Constitution to remove text on the role of women in the home, and insert a new Article 42B to recognise family care.

Draft wording of the referendums was published earlier this month but Bacik said the wording, particularly relating to recognising care, is “narrowly defined” and “weak”.

“We will be putting down amendments on the bill in the new year to strengthen the wording to bring it more into line with what we had recommended on the Oireachtas committee and which had buy-in from all the political parties and support from civil society and trade union groups too,” Bacik said.

“We’re very concerned that the government wording, particularly on the care referendum, is so narrowly defined and so weak, if I may say, that we won’t be able to see a way to support it.

“And we’re very concerned about that,” she said.

Central to Bacik’s concerns is the divergence from the wording proposed by the Oireachtas Committee and the Citizens Assembly.

She highlighted that the government’s proposed wording restricts care to care within the family and doesn’t extend to care outside of the family.

She also noted the weakening of language used in relation to care with the use of ‘strive to support’ rather than ‘take reasonable efforts to support’. 

Bacik said the Labour Party will take a decision on supporting the referendums in the new year but stressed the party wants to engage further in the process.

“I would like us to see the change made, our Constitution is, frankly, an embarrassment.

“The text in article 41.2 currently is an embarrassment, to say that we still refer to women as having a life within the home and mothers as having duties within the home and that we have no reference to fathers…So we need to change it. But it’s how we change it that’s important now,” Bacik said.

Patronising 

Earlier this month, Social Democrats leader Holly Cairns said it was “patronising” of the government to hold the referendums on International Women’s Day and dubbed the changes a “powerless amendment”. 

Cairns claimed instead that if the government really wanted to do something meaningful for women, they would instead make a commitment to implement the findings of a recent review into abortion services. 

Bacik said she didn’t agree that holding the referendum on 8 March was patronising but agreed that the abortion review recomendations need to be implemented without delay.

“I want to see the recommendations of the abortion review implemented without delay. I mean, I’m someone who has campaigned for over 30 years on abortion rights at a time when it was not at all popular. And so I am absolutely convinced of that need in advance of International Women’s Day.

“I don’t think it’s patronising to hold the referendum on International Women’s Day frankly. I think it’s positive that we’re seeing a referendum held. I wanted it held in November of last year, and all of the committee wanted that,” she said.

Proposed wording

As it stands, the government is proposing to ask voters to accept the following changes to the Constitution on 8 March:

Family Amendment

To amend Article 41.1.1 to insert the words “whether founded on marriage or on other durable relationships”.

It also proposes the deletion of the words “on which the Family is founded” from Article 41.3.1.

Care Amendment

To delete Article 41.2 from the Constitution and insert an Article 42B with the following wording:

‘The State recognises that the provision of care, by members of a family to one another by reason of the bonds that exist among them, gives to Society a support without which the common good cannot be achieved, and shall strive to support such provision.’

Speaking earlier this month when the referendum was confirmed, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said: “We firmly believe that passing these events will reinforce the fact that Ireland is a modern, inclusive nation that strives to treat and care for all of its people equally.”

“It’s crucial that we listen carefully to people in groups who may oppose these proposals and give them a fair hearing. We’re all aware that it’s far too easy for debate to become polarised. And the only way to avoid this is to participate in an informed, respectful conversation with everyone concerned,” he added.

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    Mute Dearbhla O Reilly
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    Mar 15th 2022, 9:06 AM

    I’ll play Horslips and Rory all morning until the kids cry for mercy. They love my Paddy’s day playlist. Shall also have a big Irish fry up. And will take the eldest for a couple of scoops in the GAA club while the other two have a puck around. Family day.
    Thats pretty Irish actually!
    Is mise cailín glic.
    La féile padraig sona daoibh.

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    Mute JusticeForJoe
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    Mar 15th 2022, 9:34 AM

    @Dearbhla O Reilly: Sounds like grand craic, that. Can I come?

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    Mute James Lough
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    Mar 15th 2022, 10:42 AM

    @Dearbhla O Reilly: l’ll wait for 12th July

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    Mute JustMeHere
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    Mar 15th 2022, 11:10 AM

    @James Lough: You do you. Fash Fest 2022 suits you. Fleg burning day and night. Sure it sounds like bliss.

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    Mute Pat Barry
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    Mar 15th 2022, 3:33 PM

    @Dearbhla O Reilly: I bet you have Thin Lizzy on there too.

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    Mute Maurice Wrenn
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    Mar 15th 2022, 6:51 PM

    @James Lough: thanks do you want to come to my 50th birthday party on the 12th of July

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    Mute Dearbhla O Reilly
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    Mar 15th 2022, 7:27 PM

    @JustMeHere: sure do!! Pick up @justiceforjoe on they way. Bring crisps.

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    Mute Dearbhla O Reilly
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    Mar 15th 2022, 7:27 PM

    @Pat Barry: meant for you.

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    Mute i.Have.it.Me.
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    Mar 15th 2022, 9:27 AM

    St Patrick’s day is up there as one of the most depressing days of the year.

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    Mute Larry Whack
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    Mar 15th 2022, 9:33 AM

    @i.Have.it.Me.: Totally, as kids it was spent in mass followed by standing in the freezing rain watching a row of tractors drive by. As you get older it’s spent hungover with an all consuming fear. Now as parents it’s back to the tractors. Sob.

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    Mute Dave Johnston
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    Mar 15th 2022, 10:27 AM

    @i.Have.it.Me.: It’s a day off work. Go for a pint and don’t be such a bloody moaner.

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    Mute JustBEERbarry
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    Mar 15th 2022, 10:37 AM

    @i.Have.it.Me.: the fact its in March says it all.

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    Mute Johnny Kelly
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    Mar 15th 2022, 11:45 AM

    @i.Have.it.Me.: Couldn’t agree more. The day as a kid watching crappy parades

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    Mute i.Have.it.Me.
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    Mar 15th 2022, 1:00 PM

    @Larry Whack: the fear is real haha

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    Mute Damo
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    Mar 15th 2022, 2:00 PM

    @i.Have.it.Me.: aren’t you are a ray of sunshine!!

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    Mute Steve O'Hara-Smith
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    Mar 15th 2022, 7:33 PM

    @Johnny Kelly: You could have been taking part, that’s even less fun than watching.

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    Mute Pádraic Brady
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    Mar 16th 2022, 10:12 AM

    @Larry Whack: I guess it depends on the parade. My local had a bit more imagination, so I have no depressing thoughts of tractors.

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    Mute David O'Brien
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    Mar 15th 2022, 9:47 AM

    No parade for me. I’ll be out enjoying the Irish countryside. First 18 holes of golf booked for this year

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    Mute ed w
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    Mar 15th 2022, 9:29 AM

    watch the tractors at the parade obviously

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    Mute Garreth Byrne
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    Mar 15th 2022, 10:26 AM

    I’ve met some people who intend to go to church and pray on the morning of St. Patrick’s Day.

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    Mute Gavin Linden
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    Mar 15th 2022, 10:45 AM

    @Garreth Byrne: I’d be one of them..
    Then to the parade, couple of pints before bacon and cabbage dinner (no dessert!).
    Then a bit of a tour of the locals till lateish….
    Night of farting and snoring and hopefully a walk the next morning to reset the system.

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    Mute Charles Coughlan
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    Mar 15th 2022, 10:54 AM

    @Garreth Byrne: That wouldn’t be unusual, we are a Catholic country, I wouldn’t be the best practicing Catholic but go to mass occasionally, will try to rectify this now that Covid is “relatively” under control.

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    Mute Gavin Linden
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    Mar 15th 2022, 11:04 AM

    @Charles Coughlan: Not just Catholics that celebrate the feast of St.Patrick. I always thought that fact should have been exploited more to help the mixing of the green and orange.

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    Mute Derek Moran
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    Mar 15th 2022, 12:31 PM

    @Charles Coughlan: not a catholic country anymore. Thank God.

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    Mute Charles Coughlan
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    Mar 15th 2022, 9:19 AM

    Nothing special, certainly won’t be going on the phiss, don’t need to be associated with the term “drunken irish”

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    Mute O Swetenham
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    Mar 15th 2022, 10:57 AM

    @Charles Coughlan: unfortunately you’re associated with the “drunken Irish” whether you like it or not. That’s what stereotypes are for.

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    Mute Damian Collins
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    Mar 15th 2022, 10:27 AM

    Have to work so no.

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    Mute Stu Cullum
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    Mar 15th 2022, 9:02 AM

    Stay calm

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    Mute Tim Oleary
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    Mar 15th 2022, 11:42 AM

    I go to Mass, attend The Parade, Labhair Fochal Gaeilge. Go for a walk.

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    Mute Mattress Dick
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    Mar 15th 2022, 8:46 AM

    Skinful of hooch!

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    Mute Greg Ward
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    Mar 15th 2022, 10:15 AM

    @Mattress Dick: 3 words painting a magnificent picture. Hon Dickie-Boy!! Lol

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    Mute The Grand Nagus
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    Mar 15th 2022, 10:41 AM

    Going to see Batman

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    Mute Joseph Devine
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    Mar 15th 2022, 10:55 AM

    @The Grand Nagus: nice

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    Mar 15th 2022, 6:08 PM

    @The Grand Nagus: Batman the 19th? A good one I hear.

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    Mar 15th 2022, 9:18 AM
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    Mute Carrie Poettcker
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    Mar 15th 2022, 2:37 PM

    All the polls this week trying to find out what we’re up to. If I were any more paranoid…! :P

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    Mute Stealth
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    Mar 15th 2022, 12:07 PM

    Nope I’ll be working

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    Mute Philip Dwyer
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    Mar 15th 2022, 2:08 PM

    I’ll be doing a Men’s Trek up the mountains followed by a few jambons from Costcutter in Perrystown.

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    Mute David Haye
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    Mar 15th 2022, 11:12 AM

    I’m not allowed in any licenced premises, im not allowed to consume any alcoholic beverages and I have to observe a 7am to 9pm curfew so I’ll not be doing very much this year im afraid.

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    Mute Pat Barry
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    Mar 15th 2022, 3:38 PM

    @David Haye: You’re in the majority anyway.

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    Mute Rachael Baldwin
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    Mar 15th 2022, 3:29 PM

    We can’t now as my son has covid. He was supposed to be taking part with his GAA team in our towns local parade and he’s devastated about it.

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    Mute Kevin Hickey
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    Mar 15th 2022, 6:05 PM

    Sesh

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    Mute James Delaney
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    Mar 15th 2022, 11:25 AM

    Let us drink wehey ,,the atheist agnostic alcoholics association authorised by the authorities ,hip hip hooray

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    Mute Karl Phillips
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    Mar 15th 2022, 11:27 AM

    Gone to

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