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Warmest January on record as temperatures hover above crucial 1.5 limit

Last month was the warmest January globally of modern records.

JANUARY 2024 WAS the warmest January in decades — and the eighth month in a row to break temperature records.

The EU’s Copernicus Climate Change Service has confirmed that last month was the warmest January globally of modern records, following a pattern set by each month before it for a consecutive eight months in total.

It was wetter than average in parts of Europe, with storms impacting north and southwestern countries, but drier than average in other areas, including parts of Spain, Ireland, southern UK, eastern Ireland, and most of Scandinavia.

The global average temperature for the past twelve months (February 2023 to January 2024) is also the highest on record at 0.64°C above the 1991-2020 average and 1.52°C above the 1850-1900 pre-industrial average.

Deputy Director of the Copernicus Climate Change Service Samantha Burgess said: “2024 starts with another record-breaking month – not only is it the warmest January on record but we have also just experienced a 12-month period of more than 1.5°C above the pre-industrial reference period.”

“Rapid reductions in greenhouse gas emissions are the only way to stop global temperatures increasing.”

Last month, Copernicus revealed that 2023 was the hottest year of modern records, replacing 2016, which was previously the hottest year of modern records going back to 1850.

The rate of increase in global average temperature is fast approaching the 1.5 degrees Celsius mark above pre-industrial levels, a critical limit beyond which devastating climate impacts are expected to escalate significantly if the temperature rise is sustained.

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    Mute John Dennehy
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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:22 AM

    Get Eamon to ignore all emissions produced by the DAA, Dublin Airport, wealthy airlines, and private jests, then just build a few more cycle lanes and blame the farmers and turf cutters for all our problems, that should sort it out in no time.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:48 AM

    @John Dennehy: You forgot about taxing the SUVs for parking in Dublin. That will offset the methane footprint that clown breathes .

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    Feb 8th 2024, 10:28 AM

    @John Dennehy: Volcanoes?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:26 PM

    @John Dennehy: Whataboutery! It’s all you fools have in your arsenal!

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    Feb 8th 2024, 2:21 PM

    @Chutes: Is it now not ok to talk about the uncontrolled expansion of the aviation sector’s emissions or is that kind of scrutiny and criticism by the people concerned about global warming only re-severed for farmers, turf cutters, and the expansion of the dairy herd?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:32 AM

    The hottest January on record. Hmmm how old is the earth again. And when was records first recorded.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:59 AM

    @Scott coulter: way to miss the point…

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:29 AM

    @Scott coulter: oh my. Have a coffee.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 9:12 AM

    @Scott coulter: “And when was records first recorded”….the comedy writes itself…lol

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    Feb 8th 2024, 10:25 AM

    @Scott coulter: Globally. Not just near your house.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:25 PM

    @Scott coulter: We have a continuous temperature records going back 400,000 years from ice cores which show the Earth is now the warmest ever in 115,000 years. The last time the Earth was this warm was the Eemian interglacial, a period 130,000–115,000 years ago of very warm climate before the Last Ice Age, when Hippos were swimming in the Thames and Rhine.

    Here’s 2000 years of temperature and CO2 levels:

    https://imgur.com/gallery/5ioVzFY

    Note the rapid warming in the last c. 150 years coincides with CO2 increase due to industrial emissions.

    Current warming is happening c. 10 faster than the end of the Last Ice Age, a protracted period of warming, of c. 6 celsius over 8,000 years. So far we warmed the planet about 1.2 celsius in 150 years. That is why the temperature graph is likened to a hockey stick, it looks almost like a vertical line.

    See: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2019/01/28/last-time-the-climate-was-like-this-there-were-hippos-swimming-in-englands-rivers/

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:42 PM

    @Scott coulter: Not the shiniest tool in the box are we Scott? HAAAhahahaha!

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:38 AM

    My heating bill doesn’t agree. There were Plenty of minus Temperatures in January

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    Feb 8th 2024, 9:44 AM

    @Fintan Stack: There were a few.

    Not plenty.

    For what is normally the coldest month of the year.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:39 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: vague comment at best

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    Feb 8th 2024, 2:56 PM

    @Fintan Stack: does your heating bill cover heating for the entire globe? Or just your house? Because it’s the global average, not casa del Stack

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:21 AM

    Is there anything to be said for another tax?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:54 AM

    @Staker Wallace: God I’d love another tax , wouldn’t you now where’s me brick

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    Feb 8th 2024, 10:54 AM

    @Staker Wallace: records began about 200 years ago.. planet billions of years old ..

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    Feb 8th 2024, 12:41 PM

    @SFmeansShyte4free: Perhaps you could learn about how science is able to make measurements about things that happened long ago.

    Such as how artifacts are dated.
    Or the content of the atmosphere can be determined.
    Or the planet’s temperature.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:27 PM

    @SFmeansShyte4free: Is that supposed to mean something? Is there a point buried in there?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:11 AM

    The sky is falling… again!

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:17 AM

    @Ludie Creech: quick, let’s stick a tax on clouds !

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:39 AM

    Pre industrial revolution there was the little ice age in Europe. When those temperatures increased more crop could be grown therefore more nutrition therefore population increase and the need for mass production of textiles. Pre industrial carbon was 0.025 % in the atmosphere and now it 0.04 % co2 in the atmosphere ……. under 0.025% and plants won’t photosynthesise as effectively and we would have middle age problems where crops failed and famines were widespread. Does the EU want us to revert to that? Stop cutting rainforest in Brazil and stop buying they soya and beef….. that’d be a big statement

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:06 AM

    @James Casey: I thought it was a little less than 0.04% now as that’s decreasing (not at the same rate as the climate is increasing) but still decreasing all the same. Hopefully future scientists come up with some solution to both so the world can continue to evolve accordingly

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    Feb 8th 2024, 9:46 AM

    @James Casey: So, we humans have increased the levels of atmospheric CO2 by 50% in a mere couple of hundred years, since the industrial revolution.

    That’s an enormous amount.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:40 PM

    @James Casey: “Does the EU want us to revert to that?”, you get that the choices will in most cases be out of our control, that those times are in the pipeline regardless?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:48 PM

    @pBDSiMMi: ah I really hope so. Fingers crossed

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    Feb 8th 2024, 2:16 PM

    @pBDSiMMi: it’s 0.042% co2 this year.
    It went over 0.04% in 2015

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    Feb 8th 2024, 2:49 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: no not all human driven. There is carbon 12 carbon 13 and carbon 14 in the atmosphere.fossil fuels has pumped carbon 12 into the atmosphere. This is what plants absorb they don’t absorb 13 or 14. So yes that has increased because if us. A major player is methane and other dioxides which increase heating these mainly come from tectonic activity. Wethane comes from dying grasses in the savanna if those grasses are not grazed. Some of these grasses were burned off by humans as a tradition to allow new grasses to grow instead of allowing ruminants to the job to back carbon into the soil. Thankfully some positive stories are coming out on how we’re starting to reverse these trends. Not because if dictation from so called politicians but participation on the ground.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 3:18 PM

    @John Murphy: cheers John I must have read an old one.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:26 AM

    Ah stop I’m sick of these headline f off

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:27 PM

    @James Casey: You f off, you don’t need to read or comment!!

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:51 PM

    @Chutes: ? Gowl

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:57 AM

    What about taxing January? Or at least an extra tax for those who dont grow some lettuce at home in January.?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:25 AM

    We haven’t found a solution for climate change yet,
    but we’re definitely getting warmer.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:40 AM

    @Chris Finch: not Ireland, 2023 was one of the coldest here.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:58 AM

    @Fintan Stack: i recall September and even October being unusually warm

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:01 AM

    @Fintan Stack: that went right over your head

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:12 AM

    @Fintan Stack: 2023 was the warmest year on record in Ireland

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    Feb 8th 2024, 9:30 AM

    @Solid Snake: not to be confused by sunniest. Warmer doesn’t mean sunny, and in fact usually wetter.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:24 AM

    It is getting shameful that people are allowed to voice their opinion as fact on this journal -sorry I meant Pravda- but other voices (comments/opinions) aren’t allowed…

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:39 AM

    @Lars: agreed, however it’s important to question fables presented as fact.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 9:36 AM

    @Fintan Stack: what facts in this article specifically do you have a problem with ? Think I’ll stick with the scientific evidence rather than some lad who puts his energy bill forward as evidence against growing world temperatures.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 2:20 PM

    @Brian: I was referring to the voices opinion piece on which the comments are closed, not this article…

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:27 AM

    It’s making up for it these last few mornings.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:49 AM

    I’m convinced someone in the journal writes these articles just to wind up the masses in the comments. Probably wetting themselves laughing as they hit submit

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:49 PM

    @Sal Paradise: That’s your theory? WOW! Just WOW!

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    Feb 9th 2024, 10:08 AM

    @Chutes: Calm down lad. It’s a light hearted comment.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:01 AM

    Dreariest January on record, too, in my opinion..

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    Feb 8th 2024, 10:01 AM

    @The rats are turning on each other: isn’t it always the dreariest month of the year? It also feels like the longest month of the year when it comes to making your money stretch between paydays

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    Feb 8th 2024, 3:01 PM

    @Larissa Caroline Nikolaus: I’m only grateful that January’s over for another year.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:53 AM

    I thought most of Scandinavia experience their lowest temperatures in 40 odd years

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:59 AM

    @Cuddy Ballyfin Death: Not most, but certain regions of it.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:10 AM

    Also last winter parts of the US had the coldest winter with snow very early and sticking until March/April as per Idaho. The West has a negative footprint over the past decade while China and India’s is up by around 200%. What next? Grow more trees and ‘lung’ plants plus some common sense.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 9:49 AM

    @Chris Swanepoel:

    Do you mean that these places witnesses climate change?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 10:50 AM

    @Chris Swanepoel: i suppose you don’t buy any chinese made products then and would be happy to pay 3 or 4 times the price for these products if production was moved back to europe?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:21 AM

    The tipping point is close.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:14 AM

    @Sean O’Dhubhghaill: how close, dates ?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:56 AM

    @David Owens: Next Wednesday, about 5.30 in the evening (just before tea time).

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    Feb 8th 2024, 9:22 AM

    @Sean O’Dhubhghaill: thanks I’ll be ready

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    Feb 8th 2024, 9:42 AM

    @Sean O’Dhubhghaill: SPEAK UP!

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    Feb 8th 2024, 10:00 AM

    @Tezmond McVicar: Did he say something about cheesemakers?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 12:45 PM

    @Sean O’Dhubhghaill: It’s not meant to be taken literally. Cheesemakers obviously refers to the makers of all dairy products.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:36 PM

    @Sean O’Dhubhghaill: Those points are passed, well passed, now we just deal with the ramifications.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 3:29 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: Thank You! LOL! :-)!

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    Feb 8th 2024, 8:28 AM

    And people wonder why comments are turned off on some articles… you’d find more sense at a Q anon rally.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 9:51 AM

    @eoin fitzpatrick: There is simply no sense in suppressing comment. And in some cases – eg Israel – it puts The Journal on the side of evil.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 10:49 AM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: it’s not a good look for your site if every single comment is a conspiracy theory anti-everything nutcase though

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    Feb 8th 2024, 12:46 PM

    @eoin fitzpatrick: And yet those wingnuts tend to get a hiding here.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 9:21 AM

    It’s the warmest January since 1880. We don’t have records before that.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:14 PM

    @Washpenrebel: “It’s the warmest January since 1880. We don’t have records before that.”

    Actually, we have a continuous temperature records going back 400,000 years which show the Earth is now the warmest ever in 115,000 years. The last time the Earth was this was was the Eemian interglacial, a period 130,000–115,000 years ago of very warm climate before the Last Ice Age. There were Hippos in the Thames and Rhine during the Eemian.

    Here’s 2000 years of temperature and CO2 levels:

    https://imgur.com/gallery/5ioVzFY

    See: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2019/01/28/last-time-the-climate-was-like-this-there-were-hippos-swimming-in-englands-rivers/

    Note the rapid warming in the last 150 years coincides with CO2 increase due to industrial emissions and land use changes (cutting down forests, agricultural changes). Current warming is happening c. 10 to 20 faster than the end of the Last Ice Age, a protracted period of warming, over several thousand years, 20,000–11,700 years ago.

    Proxy temperatures are temperatures reconstructed indirectly by measuring stable isotopes from ice cores, corals, caves speleothems, as well as pollen and fossils (what pants grew in the past) etc. While CO2 levels are measured by examining at bubbles trapped in glacier ice and the number and size of stomata in fossil leaves (these are holes that air, inc. CO2, enters leaves). The oldest ice core is 2.7 million years old, i.e. we know the Temperature and CO2 levels going back over 2 million years.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 2:55 PM

    @Washpenrebel: Of course we do. Nature leaves clues, and those can be studied.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 4:00 PM

    @David Jordan: with all due respect. We don’t have the measurements. The famous hockey stick chart is data combined from two sources. The pre 1880 data is tree rings. The post 1880 data is thermometers. The bit where the graph goes up. We cannot say with any accurate information what the temperature was 300 years ago never mind 1000 years. If we used the tree ring data since 1880 to measure temperature we could have an idea but the scientists who do that are ignored bucause their findings do not match the thermometer readings.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 11:11 AM

    Eamon maybe you should close the coal fired power plant and all the factories in Ireland. Save the world and the Childers
    But first check out how many coal fired power plants Chyna are building and India annually.
    What about the rest of the factories around Europe pumping out the co2. . We all breathe the air that our fellow global citizens breathe in Beijing
    Your taxes and control do not remedy anything but create hardships.
    Solutions my green head banger NOT taxes.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 9:50 AM

    Been selfish and looking at it from an Irish perspective, as per usual it was just wetter and windier here. I doubt too many Irish people would complain if instead of more rain and wind, our temperatures just climbed by a few degrees instead.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 10:14 AM

    @The Firestarter: Being Ireland, increasing temperatures might be expected to bring us increased cloud cover, more rain, and more storms.

    That could well be our climate change.
    For the near future at any rate.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 10:39 AM

    The headline contradicts the first paragraph. Was it the warmest January on record or the warmest in decades?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 11:27 AM

    Bad day for that kind of news … It’s snowing !

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:23 PM

    @Dominic Leleu: If you can’t hold those two things in your head and have it mean something to you, it’s in fact a bad day for you.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 10:33 AM

    Big pinch of salt.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:24 PM

    @brendan C5: For the ignorant maybe, the rest of us would prefer it be tackled seriously, except ofc for farmers and let’s face it, government haven’t the cajones to do the necessary!

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:32 PM

    So, on average per month of 2023, it was 0.125 degrees hotter per month. It’s just another ploy to extract money out of the taxpayer to justify the money they spend on so called climate change!!!

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:42 PM

    @Paul Reid: Why not extract your head from the sand before posting this blinkered nonsense?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 2:52 PM

    @Conrad Stapletwin: That’s my opinion on the subject ots all about money!!

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    Feb 8th 2024, 11:40 AM

    80% of the comments here are from climate change deniers each one more ignorant and ill informed than the last – many of which clearly don’t know the difference between climate and weather.

    Simpletons.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 12:51 PM

    @Conrad Stapletwin: They are frightened.

    They would prefer denial to facing up to unpalatable truths.

    Right-wingers tend to have the mentality – the minds – of children. And the further to the right, the more childish the mind.

    It is much simpler for such to pretend that to live up to the responsibilities of being an adult.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 10:24 AM

    It is not possible to scale up experiments to atmospheric research as the crude scientific method modeling tries to do.

    Climate change modeling is based on the idea that the conditions in a common greenhouse scale up to the Earth’s atmosphere.

    If readers here want to know what a MAGA supporter feels like, then being a cheerleader for academic modelling fits the bill.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 12:48 PM

    @Gearoid O’Ceilleachair: If you have an alternative hypothesis, then I’m sure we’d all like to hear it.

    And I’m sure that you will have the evidence to support it.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:41 PM

    An astronomical hypothesis and an experimental hypothesis are two very different things. The scientific method subculture attempted to equate an experimental hypothesis with an astronomical hypothesis, so climate change modelling is another awful child of mathematical theorists originating with Newton as ‘Rules of Reasoning’. Being stuck in the 17th century is absurd.

    Scientific method modelling offers modellers an unrestricted means to associate conditions in a garden greenhouse directly with the Earth’s atmosphere. From there, it is picked up by all sorts of people, even well-meaning people, in a belief that controlling human behaviour equates to controlling the weather/temperature.

    People need to be more considerate at an individual level rather than acting as cheerleaders.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:52 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: Please don’t encourage the man! You’ll not get sense there, it’s his weird thing, let him have it. He seems to need it like a security blanket. I get that. Some just can’t face reality, which I totally get! Reality sucks!

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    Feb 8th 2024, 2:12 PM

    Why are comments closed on the Misinformation article? Surely, that is a joke?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:21 PM

    Denial of reality is strong around here! It saddens me to see so many thick Irish!

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    Feb 8th 2024, 12:07 PM

    There was a horrific cold snap in North America, unprecedented floods in California and other freakish events that are becoming the new normal.

    Supposedly there’s a really bad cold snap hitting Europe next month as well.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:00 PM

    @Seamus Enright: You mean, what could be called Climate Change?

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    Feb 8th 2024, 7:48 PM

    Let me get this straight government’s around the world have been making all these changes fir the climate in the last how many years and its done nothing? Could it be the planet is getting warmer because we’re at the end of an ice age cycle

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    Feb 8th 2024, 10:21 AM

    Spend 11.22 minutes watching Tony Heller shooting holes in this bull$hit
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsemWn2VIA8&ab_channel=TonyHeller

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    Feb 8th 2024, 11:44 AM

    @John Kennedy: Tony Heller (pseudonym Steven Goddard) doesn’t just believe climate change is a “fraud” and a “scam”, but has promoted conspiracy theories about the Sandy Hook school massacre.

    Absolutely disgusting.

    Climate deniers are simply awful people.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:25 PM

    @Conrad Stapletwin: “Climate deniers are simply awful people”? really? what is a “Climate denier”? I have no idea what Tony Heller’s views are on Sandy Hook, nor do I care, however I would be interested in your rebuttal of the data and evidence he presents in his video

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:32 PM

    @John Kennedy: Watch Liv Boree, Daniel Scmactenberger and similar instead! It’ll change your algo and you won’t waste more time.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 1:40 PM

    @John Kennedy: The burden of proof is on you as it’s you posting links to misinformation and false claims which have been debunked by actual scientific research and evidence based analysis.

    As it appears you’re too blinkered by these false narratives to do your own research I’ll do you this one courtesy and provide a link below…

    https://climatefeedback.org/claimreview/hosted-by-former-australian-senator-tony-heller-repeats-false-claim-that-scientists-fake-the-warming-trend/

    Now do yourself and the rest of the gombeens here a favor and stop posting links to provable lies and falsehoods.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 2:20 PM

    @Conrad Stapletwin: I take it you did not watch the video, grand, the man simply publishes available historical data and is outlining how the data is being manipulated to support the climate alarmist message, BTW, some of us are old enough to remember who a new ice age was the looming threat back in the 70′s also stooping to name calling does not become you.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 2:54 PM

    @John Kennedy: I watched the video. Tony Heller provides a misinterpretation of the data to further his agenda. The link I provided clearly reviews the video and the data as it’s presented and then debunks the claims within piece by piece.

    It’s clear you didn’t bother to read the article in the link I provided. Too much like hard work for you I suppose.

    This is the problem with people like you; the climate change deniers, conspiracy theorists etc. – even when presented with the truth you refuse to acknowledge or accept it and continue willfully down the rabbit hole of ignorance.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 11:07 PM

    Grand just grand all together love the heat.

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    Feb 8th 2024, 2:37 PM

    It is because the original Sun-centred astronomers were obligated to use the framework of Ptolemy, where the Sun moves directly through the twelve constellations while the planets wander, that Copernicus and Kepler had to present their conclusions as a hypothesis.

    ” Moreover, we see the other five planets also retrograde at times
    and stationary at either end [of the regression]. And whereas the Sun
    always advances along its own direct path, they wander in various
    ways, straying sometimes to the south and sometimes to the north; that is why they are called “planets” [wanderers]. ” Copernicus

    An experimental hypothesis is a guess that experiments at a human level equate to solar system and Earth science research. For example, the fall of an apple is the same as planetary motions

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