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TAOISEACH LEO VARADKAR has today launched Fine Gael’s campaign calling for a double Yes vote on the 8 March referendums.
Speaking at the event in Dublin this morning, Varadkar said nobody will lose anything from the changing the wording of the Constitution, but many people will gain new rights and new recognition.
On 8 March voters will be asked if they wish to:
A number of politicians and civil society groups have raised concerns about the proposed wording of the referendums.
Many are still backing a Yes vote, but others are voting No, while some remain unsure.
Speaking at the Fine Gael campaign launch today, Varadkar said the Constitution is not just a legal document but also much more than that.
“It’s a statement of our values as a nation, the beating heart of our Republic. We want to make sure that it reflects our values as a society and as a nation as it is now,” said the Taoiseach.
Families that are not based on marriage like those led by a grandparent or lone parent will gain constitutional recognition for the first time, he said.
The Taoiseach also said the new article on care will give protections to carers and those they care for that are now limited to only to women and only in the home.
“It will put a positive obligation on future governments to continue to work hard to provide additional state support for family carers, men and women, in the home and outside of it,” said the Taoiseach.
Social Protection Minister Heather Humphreys, who is the party’s director of elections for the referendums, said that the vote is about delivering a more modern and inclusive Ireland
“It is so important that our constitution reflects the Ireland of today – an Ireland that recognises that all families are different, an Ireland that places huge value on the role played by our carers,” she said.
The minister said her party is strongly advocating to remove the “outdated language in the Constitution in relation to a woman’s place in the home”.
“It’s important that we send a clear message to women, and indeed men, that a woman’s place is wherever she wants to be,” she added.
Humphreys said she is looking forward to respectful debates on the issues.
Fine Gael Councillor Anna Grainger from Dún Laoghaire was also at today’s event, where she outlined she became a lone parent unexpectedly when her son was one.
She said the Constitution has never recognised her family, stating that since its very existence they have not been given the same protections and supports available to other families.
“If that’s not a blatant injustice to thousands of families in Ireland, I don’t know what is,” she said.
She first experienced this inequality on the day her son was born when she was told in the hospital she would have to go elsewhere to register his birth because she was unmarried.
She said a Yes vote on March 8 will mean her family will finally be treated equally with the same fundamental personal rights, respect, values, protections and opportunities that other families have enjoyed for decades.
Tracy Carroll from Meath, also at the event, is a carer for her daughter Willow (7), who has complex needs and son Noah (9), who is autistic.
“A Yes vote for our family means recognition. It will make care visible and places an obligation on the government and future governments, to provide, support and make our society accessible for all,” she said.
Meanwhile, Fine Gael Councillor John Reilly from Louth, who has an autistic adult son, Chris (23), with complex medical needs, said the referendum on care, in his view, is a move away from outdated notions of parental roles.
Family occasions have to be planned with military precision due to the pressures of care, telling the attendees at today’s launch that if they are are lucky they might be able to get a two-day trip in Ireland.
He said the Constitution as it stands fails to recognise the complexities of caring for the modern family bond.
“Voting yes will change that,” he said, adding that it would recognise him as a carer for Christopher on an equal basis to any other member of the Reilly family.
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My heart goes out to the parents. If anything like this happened to my child I’d do anything and go anywhere if I thought there was a hope to help her.
If a child is with their parents they are not missing.
Exactly! That little boy is NOT missing……..
So you would take your critically ill child out of intensive course of treatment in a world class hospital based on a couple of google searches? It’s between a father who admits he read a few things online and thinks he knows what treatments best and people who spend their lives learning how to treat cancer.
Sure why not give the kid leeches?
You never had a terminally ill child obviously! You would do ANYTHING to have the best for them. And chances are the treatment they are looking for is suitable for me but not in the ‘world class hospital’ as you put it. A lot of parents you will also find don’t go by what Google says. You’d be surprised the amount of studies that doctors tell you About but they don’t have in that centre of care.
This is just two parents trying to save their son watch the video really sad, any parent would go to the ends of the earth to try and save their child best of luck to them
yes and taking a sick child out of hospital and traveling around Europe with him is clearly the best thing you can do with a sick child,
This man is not a qualified Doctor at the end of the day, he’s doing what lots of people do and that is using the internet to diagnose and research health issues. This is very far from accurate.
I never knew that you needed consent.
Last year my mother was in the Beacon hospital.
She wanted to go back home and the doctors refused to let her go.
I said you can keep her as long as you want if you pay for the bills.
Within 10 minutes they let her go.
I agree on those points Martin but it is being alleged by the father that basically the family were being prevented from getting a second opinion abroad on using this treatment for their son abroad. If this is true we need to know why. Everyone is entitled to a second opinion. It was unlikely the NHS would have funded this treatment abroad but the father then said they would go privately . Why wasn’t this entertained by doctors if this is true ? Why did this descend into a grab and run for the parents? People seek treatment for their child abroad all the time . It’s not a new concept. We need to hear the hospitals side. They may have questions to answer on how they handled dealing with the parents and the managing of the child’s treatment if what the fathers says is true.
Bear in mind these people are Jehovah’s witnesses and their faith forbids blood transfusions and certain medical procedures. Of course the child was happy to be with his parents but the facts of the matter are the child is gravely ill and would die without appropriate treatment . By removing the child from the hospital the parents were obviously unhappy with what his treatment would entail. It wouldn’t be the first time an instance like this occurred that resulted in the hospital going to the high court for permission to overrule the parents and proceed with transfusions. Rightly so too! Do they think their God wants them to prove their love for him by allowing an innocent child to die? As parents they’re not only deluded and misguided but dangerous and criminally negligent and need to face up to their actions in a court of law.
I have a friend and similar happened to her and her son.
Years later we learned the child was needed for a drug trial £££££££ and a certain number of children were needed. Most of the children in the drug trial died- some from overdose etc. Mother was harassed in the hospital and when she refused to sign consent the SS took the child and he was screaming for his mother non stop, but she was refused contact. The child got infection after infection and went down hill without his mother. She was done for MSBP, yes she gave her son cancer???
There is no cure for cancer, only treatment . Treatment means more pain and suffering which is really hard for any parent to watch as I know full well.
No evidence at all at this stage their beliefs are behind their actions though. Seems like they were trying to pursue what they felt was a better treatment option for their son . A medically approved and tested treatment used in other countries that us coming on line in the UK in the near future but not near enough for this child to wait around .
@Martin…. doctors get it wrong time and time again….. They offer their opinion on matters and go to ten and you’ll get at least 7 differing opinions…. trust me I’m a doctor… fc uk off doc….
The child is going to die nothing will stop that. The extreme radiation will leave the child with no quality of life and he will die at some point in his childhood, only 30% live over 5 years.
It is taught within the religion, that ‘god helps those who help themselves’ and that doctors are there to help. They want a better option that to have him blind, deaf, with multiple tumours, in pain and with little mental capacity.
Blood is a separate issue with the bible stating, it is the life force and never consume it (not those exact words).
These are just loving parents, see the person, before you see the religion. The fact that their religion was released was to sway public opinion against them. In a few cases it worked.
Proton treatment is not radiation and this is what the parents seek. Five years extra is double his current lifespan. His current condition is not as a result if the tumour but rather the surgery to remove the tumour and may prove temporary and he may regain a lot of what he had before. They had not given up on their son .
Catherine
Well you have changed your tune,
Yesterday you were totally against the parents decision.
I’ve chosen not to judge these people, even after all the facts are known
If you saw my previous comments you will see that I said on the first article that I thought they were leaving for to try another therapy or treatment . I was not against that but rather the manner in which they were going about it. What I was against and still am is taking a child away to die without palliative care or pain relief. I am wondering how and way things descended into this and am worried that calpol was the child’s only pain relief. A lot of people just assumed on here that they parents were taking the child off to die somewhere . We didn’t know that . We didn’t know their motivation. Now we do and we need to know why they felt they had to grab and run .
No they didn’t give up, let his feed run out. They got a few days of family time with him. His still being fed, not dying of starvation or in unbearable pain. He will die at some point. The proton beam is still radiation, but it only hits its intended target not like xray radiation that hits a large area therefore doing damage to a previous healthy area.
They always had his best interests at heart. They should have been left in peace. They did the right thing.
There is no denying they took chances with their child’s health here . They were not though choosing the “lesser of two evils ” though by letting their child die without palliative care and pain relief. There needs to be questions asked on why the parents felt they had no choice but to take their child off in the manner in which they did. We have one side and we need to hear the other. The child seems to have been stuck in the middle of all this . I think without question the parents are entitled to a second opinion on their child’s treatment. I hope they get that now at the very least.
Catherine the word you used was selfish and you used it more than once.
It was the lesser of 2 evils and still is. The radiation treatment the hospital want to use is harsh. The radiation the family want to use is less harsh.
I trusted the family had the childs best interest at heart and they do. They found a better option than leaving him die and letting him have radiation that would have left him in a very bad way with little to no quality of life.
The parents decided to leave than face the last option I mentioned.
None of us knew what medication they carried. And my view that the family be let alone still stands. As does my view that they are acting in their sons best I interests.
The doctors said they could do no more.Child had op and is paralyzed in parts now. So of course the parents want some other therapy for their child.Parents feel doctors failed.
Antonov, your mother is an adult and therefore has the right to refuse treatment if she so wishes, once she is is of sound mind.
It’s completely different with children.
Do you have kids do you Martin?? Parents will go to the ends of the Earth if it means saving their child. We lost a 10 year old in our family due to a brain tumor. He was treated on the NHS and DID NOT get proton treatment.
The NHS are following protocol & not actually interested in individuals. Whats one more death to them? The often put money ahead of life.
Parents don’t do that, that’s the difference!
Martin when it does to medical advice always get a second opinion they were on their way to a treatment centre. The child was is the same danger as if he was in hospital in England. They want treatment not available in the UK so why stop them getting treatment that they and other medical professionals think could help.
Because they need to go through the proper channels and procedures , the child didn’t even have pain relief , travelling around Europe was not good for a child only out of major surgery .
Just watched channel 4 news they had a woman on who was told by the NHS not to get proton treatment for her son. She persisted, went to the states and the child made a full recovery. They had an oncologist on who was forced to admit the reason they don’t have this treatment in UK is money.
Catherine,Proton therapy is radiation but it uses a focused pencil like beam of particle radiation that reduces the risk of damaging healthy tissue.
That’s horrible.
Exactly
I just hope that the little boy will be able to see him Mum and Dad ASAP. Very well put by the Dad that ‘in his deepest, darkest hour’ he wouldn’t have the comfort of his parents. I hope there are no charges brought against them. I hope that the doctors come down to earth a bit and have open and two-sided discussions with the parents about what’s best. This seems to be brought about by bad communication skills. Any parent would go to the ends of the earth to save their child. Doctors need to realise that.
Since when is a doctor either a guardian or custodian of a child…. this hold was never missing he was with his parents… Some pissed of doctor with a god complex angry because someone didn’t obey his call…. So now it’s a crime to love and care for your children ……
This child…
Brian , don’t think it was anything to do with a pissed off doctor , the child is seriously ill and they were genuinely concerned for the child .
The doctors can offer opinion, however the parents are the child’s guardians legally and have the right to decide on what is best for their child and his last short while on this planet…. but to arrest and jail them and remove them.from their child’s side is bullying and nothing else…
Yes and now the child will be in state care and the doctors can do as they please to him.Hitler and SS did it ” in the best interests of the child” of course as that was Hitler’s slogan first.
Over dramatic there ..
I totally agree
this makes my blood boil. watch the u tube video they posted. the doctors are being very arrogant. I know if it was my child and being told theres nothing more they can do for him id be def looking for a second opinion. and a third and a fourth. any parent with any sort of instinct would no doubt do the same. child child was being well cared for and the media scaremongering and putting info out there that just wasnt true. the parents were made out to be awful and stupid and ‘trying to kill their child’ by taking him out. They were going elsewhere for treatment they were being refused in the uk. they were gonna sell their home to pay for it. the docs were that bloody arrogant that they threatened to take the child off them in order to give dangerous treatment that would inevitably lead to severe brain damage. fair play to the parents for not taking it lying down. we r led to believe all doctors r the be all. good on them.
Helen , the child just had major surgery , had not started the rest of his treatment yet , had not had a chance to recover from the operation yet and the parents just took him out . lt was very irresponsible of the parents , their actions could have cost the child his life .. Now if they had been told that there was nothing more that could have been done for the child , well than that’s a different story . they would have got the help they needed to go abroad in a safe and proper manner if there was other treatment available that could save the child .
That video is disturbing. If what the father says is true, a doctor basically told him, “don’t question me or we’ll take your child”. Then the essentially limitless resources of the state are applied to enforce it, while the police brazenly admit that the arrest warrant has nothing to do with any actual crime. At the very least, it’s plain to see that the child is not being neglected.
Meanwhile state “care” in Rotherham consists of promoting people who ignore the mass procurement of teenage girls. Britain is in big trouble. I’m not convinced it can recover.
did u watch the video? they were going put dangerously high levels of radiation through his brain. they refused him the proton treatment. any questions they have for docs were met with treats of protection orders.
Yes , for the best interests of the child only . they would never let a child die , they would try everything to save the child .
Emily, I worked in the health system for years and “don’t question me or we will take your child” is basically the way the system works.
Joan he will die anyway! Our family lost a 10 year old to a brain tumor. Did you watch the video his dad made, they were going to give him treatment that would destroy part of his brain! WHO WOULD ALLOW THAT WHEN BETTER TREATMENTS ARE AVAILABLE IN PRAGUE???
What if that was YOUR child?????
Would you just accept it?
Children die of this! This Country should be ashamed of its self. He will die, just as 10 year old Joseph did! Did either of them deserve this terrible treatment just because they were born in the UK???
Molly , if the treatment is available to saved him in another country , then do it the proper way to get him there , they went the wrong way about it and put the child at even more risk .
Problem in this case is the NHS did not allow for a proper way.
“The proper way”? When did Britain become a state where you needed a permit to get treatment for a sick child? It’s not Soviet Russia.
That’s not true
Go watch the film lorenzos oil it might open ur eyes
Your article headline could have been a lot kinder.
Seems like a statement of fact, they were arrested, it was in Spain and they are parents, not misleading, perfect headline
Looks like the hospital told porkies. No conflict with parents. Do as I say or you won’t see your son again.
They have had a hard time. Hopefully they will be left in peace to continue with what they had planed. They clearly aren’t neglecting their son, they clearly love him very much as shown in earlier video’s and Facebook posts. Very wise of them to post a you tube video. To get their ‘unedited’ version of events across.
Now the police should release them quickly with no charges and the boy should be released back into their care.
Best wishes to the family.
Lily, it’s still ‘their’ version of events. You called them wise to post the video, yet you don’t you think they would be wise enough not to try manipulate public opinion!
If they wanted a second opinion, this could’ve been arranged (even if they had to go to court to get it).
I suspect there are some porkies and mistruth in their version.
To put it into context – do you trust EVERYTHING the HSE says? They’re more concerned with covering their own asses and “saving” money, than a patients actual welfare. NHS is a very similar beast.
Horrible situation for this poor family. Why can the child be classed as missing/kidnapped when he is with his parents?
JESUS let them go there son needs them .let them the treatment that they want for there son
BEST WISHES TO YOU ALL
Having looked at the fathers video last night things don’t add up for me. We know now they were not taking their child somewhere to do. They were seeking further treatment as I said earlier and it wasn’t thought if as being in the bes interests of the child by doctors. According to the fathers account there has been a total breakdown of communication with the child’s oncologists and that they felt they had no choice but to leave. Seems strange. They are certainly not the first parents who would have researched their child’s condition and treatments. They certainly wouldn’t have been the first parents who would want to take the child abroad for treatment not available in their own country. We all helped recently fundraise for little Gavin for example. Yet according to the father the child’s doctors would not co operate with this idea at all. That seems odd to me. I understand the father is not a doctor and is going on limited Internet information and he really cannot make medical decisions for his son but he can seek an outside second opinion . Why alledegy was the two doctors in question trying to deny him this second opinion. Why was there alleged comments made about protection orders? We need more information . I hope that the family’s religion was not the reason the doctors immediately jumped to allegedly mentioning protection orders. The father appeared to want thr NHS to fund the proton treatment abroad . That was unlikely from the start . He wants to sell his house now but does the child have that kind if time? Will the patents be allowed to get their second opinion in Spain? I want to hear from the hospital on this. I think if what the father says is true they need to say why this was their stance
Agree with you Catherine apart from the comment that the family cannot make medical decisions for their child. This is exactly who makes them, aided of course by medical professionals and hopefully by them then researching and confirming what doctors are saying. It’s the parents who should make the decision on what treatment their child has, it’s the doctors jobs to provide them with the best information available to them, answers any questions they have honestly and then let the family decide what happens
I am not taking about consent to treatment there though. I am talking about the best treatment for a specific condition. Doctors know what treatments have the best outcomes and what needs to be targeted where. I meant from a medical knowledge perspective and an overall and long term view of the child condition and treatment. Doctors should provide all the information though . There are treatments some doctors are aware of. Perhaps they don’t keep up on the literature. Or they only offer what’s available to them and don’t as seems to be the case here tell patents about other options abroad. Some doctors do though so what’s going on here? Also seems the parents were not being given the option not to consent under threat of protection orders according to the fathers video. Too many questions left unanswered here
Why would you believe the father? They have just compromised the intensive care of their child and face years in prison for child abuse and possibly negligent homicide if he dies. Of course they are going to spin a story.
We were told at the press conference on Friday that the battery in the feeding machine was going to run out within hours, the child would then starve to death etc.etc..and the whole scenario was beinig played out by the Police as if it was a Hollywood movie race against the clock thing. The Police then explained that the main reason for issuing the arrest warrant was because the Parents acted without consent from the Hospital to remove the child – we then found out that no consent was actually needed. When questioned by a journalist on this matter they couldn’t give a straight answer. The Police then said that they where concerned because the Parents never told anyone where they where going!!! Jesus, real crime of the century stuff here!!! Further, if the childs life was in such supposed “grave danger” without receiveing urgent medical care, how come they managed to travel from the UK to southern Spain by car with seemingly no adverse effects to the childs health.
On Saturday, Sky News had a specialist in the particular medical field on explaining how the feeding machine works. When asked about what will happen when the battery runs out, he said you can just plug it in to the mains and held up the machine to show that it had a plug on it. Something the Police never bothered explaining at the press conference.They were too busy telling us all about the special batteries the machine needed.
Perhaps instead of going on an all out global manhunt for the family, and on the basis that there was no evidence (other than the say so of one Doctor) that the child was going to be harmed in any way let alone being in “grave danger”, a simple public broadcast alert asking for them to contact the UK Police would have been more than sufficient. Hope the UK Police force in question gets ripped to shreads for such outrageous behaviour. I won’t be surprised if that idiot in charge of the investigation resigns after the Judge throws his case out of court.
Couldn’t agree more Mark!
The while this strikes me as a massive initial overreaction and then the police needing to justify why they overreacted.
If you’re concerned appeal for the patents to get in touch to confirm all ok. If they don’t, then consider ramping up.
Now we have the ludicrous situation of parents being accused of “kidnapping” their own child, parents being shoved into a police car in Spain being told to hurry up so they can’t talk to the media, court hearings over two days with one hundreds of miles away in Madrid to deal with “extradition”. Meanwhile their son is sick and no doubt frightened to be suddenly separated from his parents in a foreign hospital.
Anyone seriously “concerned for his welfare” would let his parents get back to his side and stop this extradition for “neglect” crap!
*This whole thing …not the while this
I am exited to live in a time where these highly paid doctors who have wasted years of their lives in medical school can now be replaced with a Google search. Imagine the savings that will be made in our health services when we fire the consultants and replace them with a bank of coin operated internet cafe PCs in A&E. **
** May contain sarcasm and a spelling mistake.
…or that we live in an age where the only treatment available to you is that which you can afford, or the state is willing to fund.
The father states in the video that they were willing to pay for the treatment themselves so that’s bull.
Actually he said they were willing to sell their home to pay for it. That’s a far cry from having the money to pay for it.
They were willing to pay for it, they had the will and the means to raise the required funds, hence they could afford it and your point is bull$hit.
Good luck getting a hospital to provide expensive treatment on the promise that you’ll sell your home to pay for it.
Funny then that money didn’t seem to be an issue when they arrived at wherever their indented destination was.
Totally agree with you Ron
My heart goes out to this family. It is utterly inhumane to chase down a dying child and his family as they try to get him the treatment he deserves. What kind of sick bureaucrats would issue an arrest warrant and have them arrested. It just goes to show you that parents are mere “legal guardians” without the right to act in the best interest of our flesh and blood. How on earth were we so idiotic as to end up on this situation. My sincerest best wishes to the family this awful time compounded by a state drunk on its own power.
John the medical mafia are the new old church with many having the god complex. I am a doctor, so I know all, when many times doctors get it so wrong and people die. But as long as money is made from the “treatment” who cares.?
I know many cases where the parents did not want to put their children through more treatment, then they lost their children to the corporate parent and died anyway in agony without their parents. No one really cared as it was all about control over the family. I can still hear the screams sometimes in my mind from these children separated from their parents in their last hours. Its just horrific. Maybe this case will bring the other cases to light as usually there are gagging orders on parents – that’s if the ICO is got before the media get involved. Now I presume this case will also be confined to the secret courts etc and we will hear no more.
Yes Catherine I see the mention of the “protection” order but obviously the parents were on the ball and managed to get the child to safety before the ICO was implemented. Awful stuff. It’s quite clear the police had zero legal grounds to arrest the parents. Sadly little things like the law don’t matter anymore.
Jesus. I know this happens, but this is a graphic picture that really brings home what we don’t want to think about.
If the parents have critically compromised the treatment of their child with their stupidity they should face the full consequences of their actions. Child abuse and negligent homicide and long prison spells for the both of them. Utterly irresponsible and criminal.
How many children have u had that their life is hanging on the balance as it says in the bible ye who judge will b judged. Ur creating a bad karma for urself by ur statement.
I feel sorry for this family, being put through all this with a very ill child. I don’t doubt for a moment the father’s story, for those of us leaving in the Uk, treatment on the NHS has completely gone down the drain, I have had a few harrowing experiences with consultants who in most cases have received their training abroad,India, Pakistan etc, some times due to language difficulties or general mannerisms come across as being very arrogant. Once when I asked one of these consultants at East Surrey Hospital for a second opinion, I was told to be careful what I wished for and to know where ‘my gun’ was pointing. Imagine that kind of talk from a consultant. I complained to the hospital and to this day nothing has ever been done about it. So unless one is being treated privately in the UK, you’d just have to wait to die in the NHS
The video clearly outlines the situation…I would’ve done the same if I were in those parents’ position.
The child has stage 4 cancer! Obviously this is the treatment available within the NHS which the doctors believe is best. Clearly the parents are at their wits end but their actions were irresponsible. Their child’s health should be the most important thing. If they wish to seek a second opinion there is a correct procedure. Poor kid.
And there’s the problem… “within the NHS” The medical equivalent of cheap-seats.
Tracey , well said
If you watch the video you will see they attempted to follow the correct procedure and had a dr from another hospital request his files – MRI etc, but this was ignored by his Drs in the Uk. This seems to be a family at their wits end attempting to get the care they needed. Drs are not always right, but some unfortunately believe themselves to be infallible. Likelihood is that the treatment being sought was more expensive , or worse was better but meant they wouldn’t meet their discount quota with the relevant pharma co., or worse case they haven’t been keeping up and didn’t even know it would work. Whatever the reason the hospital should be making a statement detailing the issues, but I suspect they will be hiding something. These parents are not criminals and instead of appearing in court they should be attending a meeting with the UK Drs and whoever they wanted to get an opinion from.
Authorities failed to provide protection for years to 1400 youngsters in Rotherham.
Now similar authorities are chasing parents of Ashya King for snatching him from health system that was on his way to fail to provide the necessary treatment. This warrant is illegal and european humanright Coutr should look into this
The child didn’t even have a chance to recover after the operation . if the treatment was not available in the UK , then the family have a right to get it in another country , we hear all the time about families fundraising and going to other countries for treatment but the proper protocol must be followed .
Says who “THE GOVERMENTS” a crowd of sheep we are to them we have a right to care for our children in the best possible way we can if that was your child and he came back worse from his surgery would you just sit there and wait for your child to die. Sorry but I don’t think so. People can be so cruel.
To be fair to the cops it does look like they might have been told porkies by the hospital with regards to the childs condition and the reasons the parents took the child.
Think for a second about the phrase “practicing medicine”. Most of the time the doctors haven’t a clue, they are just trying treatments that should/could/might work. I agree 100% with the actions these parents took. Imagine being desperate about the life of your young sick child and then on top feeling threatened with the last bit of control you have being taken away. The were doing the best they could in a desperate situation to protect their little boy. I hope some changes come out of all of this and no threats of court orders should ever be handed to loving parents at their wit’s end during such a difficult time in their lives.
Since when does any healthcare provider reserve to right to claim possession of your child? This is utterly amazing… What’s worse is that there are people out there that are supporting this and calling for the prosecution of these parents. If that is your belief…please, leave this planet as soon as possible. You are not part of the solution you ARE the problem.
Authorities failed to provide protection for years to 1400 youngsters in Rotherham.
Now similar authorities are chasing parents of Ashya King for snatching him from health system that was on his way to fail to provide the necessary treatment.
Once u SUBMIT a birthcert for your child to the state, then they have custody of the child…cases like this highlight the power the state has if they wish to use it.
This child is with his parents so he is not missing . If that was my child I would go to the ends of the earth to get treatment for my child .. This family should not be stopped in their quest for the best treatment for their son , if one hospital can’t give the best treatment let them use another hospital .. End of .
Who are we to judge the parents or hospital. But the father said the child was very sick, had limited movement, being tube fed, couldn’t talk and then they take the child out of the hospital. Why would you do that. If they wanted a 2nd opinion bring in another doctor to check out the child, you are entitled to your medical reports. Just ask for them. That is what we did before our son had serious surgery when he was approx that child age. I had no problem getting the reports. I think there is more to this than meets they eye. We will never hear the full story. but does it really matter who is right when the child get the best treatment that is the question.
As u said before he had his surgery this poor little boy was left worse after his surgery .
These parents have done nothing wrong if their not happy with the care their son was receiving they should have every right to move him to where they wish and an investigation should be done on the hospital as to why this child was left like this after surgery especially when us as parents think we’re doing the right thing for our children shame on the governments for interfering and I hope the parents get reunited with their son who needs them with his battle. He can’t fight on his own and I would do the same if it were my child. What law was passed for hospitals to stop parents from moving their child out of a hospital to bring him to somewhere they can receive better medical care cause the Irish medical system in Ireland have no empathy for any patients we’re just a number and a profit to them. It’s so sad what the government is allowing state care take control of these days. It would make you think is my child safe in hospital care or is there other healers out there that can actually heal a person.
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