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Rose of Tralee 2024 winner Keely O'Grady Domnick Walsh © Eye Focus LTD

Young people made up the majority of the Rose of Tralee's viewers this year

15% more young people watched the event than in 2022, when it returned from a two-year hiatus.

PEOPLE AGED BETWEEN 15 and 34 made up the bulk of the viewers of this year’s Rose of Tralee, comprising 60% of those who tuned in.

Over half a million people switched over to RTÉ to watch New Zealander Keely O’Grady take the crown, with an average of 543,000 watching the final. Across the two nights, nearly 413,000 on average switched over to watch the 64th edition of the competition.

This is the first year that 15-34 year olds have made up the majority of viewers since the event returned from a hiatus forced on it by the Covid-19 pandemic, with this year seeing a 15% increase on 2022.

However, viewership numbers have not returned to those that the competition saw pre-pandemic. Between 2015 and 2018, the contest drew an average peak viewership of around 735,000. It saw a drop in 2019 to just under 550,000.

The numbers since the Kerry-based festival returned from its hiatus have been on the increase, however. This year’s contest saw on average nearly 30,000 more people watching the crowning of the winning rose compared to 2023.

Where the event has seen massive increases in the last few years have been in social media engagement.

Almost ten years ago, the festival bragged about Twitter engagements in the tens of thousands. In 2015 and 2016, the official accounts saw just over 55,000 tweets around the event.

This weekend, there were over 500,000 engagements across Facebook, X, Instagram, and TikTok, with posts by official accounts raking in over 5 million views across all platforms, an increase of almost 3 millon compared to last year.

The scope of the competition has similarly changed. RTÉ’s streaming service RTÉ Player recorded streams being viewed in 81 different countries across Europe, America, Asia, and the Middle East.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 7:02 AM

    Two-tier Kier. Some absolutely staggering sentences handed out to rioters recently while an entire neighbourhood in Leeds, of a certain religious persuasion, attacked social workers and police and rioted with impunity. Impunity from the law and impunity from the media who hardly covered it. We will have the same here. War is on the horizon

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    Sep 7th 2024, 7:16 AM

    @Dan P: Very worrying what’s happening, two tier policing is happening here too. We are sleepwalking into a nightmare future.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 7:18 AM

    @Dan P: If russia isnt brought to heel then, yes, war is coming.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 8:14 AM

    @Freda Peeple: There has always been “2 tier policing”.

    The police force, and the justice system in general, was created to protect the great and good.

    All else is incidental.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 8:42 AM

    @Dan P: The vast majority of the recent violence was caused by far right loons. They’re the real threat.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:11 AM

    @Dan P: surely the courts are the ones that hand out sentencing. This is not just government policy etc.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:19 AM

    @Dan P: Lurid far-right propaganda. No doubt you’d love a war as a distraction from your boring little life.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:33 AM

    @Dan P: two tears in a bucket….

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:42 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Typical collaborator/apologist mindset. Resort to petty insults. Dismiss but don’t dare discuss. Have a gander at what a certain crowd were up to in Leeds before those riots.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:44 AM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: I agree on Russia. Corrupt mafiosa state

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:51 AM

    @Dan P: You’re talking about this? The media did cover it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/28/leeds-riots-harehills-disorder-muslim-men-children-care

    I collaborate with tolerance and respect. All people like you do is cause division and stoke hatred..

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:13 AM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: Hahahahaha

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:23 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Now Brendan, please don’t be attempting to come over all Gandhi. You have been called out before, by me, for stoking anti-republican division on articles related to that failed state in the north-east. Where are your tolerant and respectful tones when discussing Irish republicanism?

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:27 AM

    @Dan P: The biggest child protection scandal ever in the UK was in South Yorkshire, where over 1400 girls aged from 11 to 16 were sexually exploited by men from an ethnic minority. The Police & Media & Judiciary covered it up for years for fear of upsetting racial relations & it was eventually uncovered years later. This is happening again in the UK & is also happening here & anyone who has reported an incident & seen no action taken by Irish authorities will tell you. The media are complicit too in the cover ups. It shouldn’t matter who you are, these crimes cannot be covered up for any reason. We are making the same mistakes now in Ireland as they did in the UK.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:30 AM

    @SV3tN8M4: any details of those cover ups in Ireland?

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:33 AM

    @Dan P: you get the future you want.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:37 AM

    @SYaxJ2Ts: there is a slew of evidence of children being sexually abused and elements of the British security services covering up of same in Kincora Boy’s Home. I’m surprised you’ve not heard anything about this

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:40 AM

    @Darth O’Leary: these are historical, and my question was about Ireland, not the UK

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:52 AM

    @Richard.: What do you think MP’s and TD’s do? Legislate, they even call themselves legislators to help people like you.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:53 AM

    @SV3tN8M4: The biggest child protection scandal in Ireland was also covered up the state, and its institutions, and the media.

    And The Church have still not been held to account.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:55 AM

    @Dan P: New to Irish shores – the Musk Parrot. A strange species repeating things they’ve seen a dodgy tech titan spew on his hate and misinformation site. Elon Apartheid, a great person to quote when you are determined to sink your argument before its even left the dock.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:11 AM

    @SV3tN8M4: Well said John

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:24 AM

    @SYaxJ2Ts: Kincora is in Ireland

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:43 AM

    @SYaxJ2Ts: Where are the 30 children that were in the care of Tusla & the Dept of Roderic O Gorman gone, disappeared Kevin ? Where is the investigation, how many were sexually exploited or trafficked, I am not in power, your buddies are, maybe you can tell us why the investigations aren’t taking place or why the scandal is being covered up Kevin. I can’t comment on one particular experience as the matter is ongoing, but suffice to say, the obstacles placed in front by the State are deliberate. Just like all our other historic abuse cases which the parties you defend on here daily, they were as guilty the abusers, covering their tracks for them & placing obstacles in front of victims. You are a shill, a waste of time even replying to.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:44 AM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: Maybe two tier punishment is more appropriate, a man in the Uk got 22 months for throwing a bicycle at an ipas center when he was drunk, same day an afghani was caught trying to meet two 13yo girls he met online. 6months suspended sentence walks Scott free. Is that fair to you?

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:50 AM

    @Freda Peeple: If that is true, and you have given all pertinent information, then we see the same here.

    Depending upon the Justice concerned.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:36 PM

    @Thesaltyurchin: No. This future had very much been imposed on us despite our objections. There will be insurrection over this. All it’ll take is an economic depression and this house of cards will go up in flames

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:56 PM

    @Dan P: Nah, most peoples future looks fine.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 1:25 PM

    @Dan P: You might like to explore the psychology of left and right attitudes by Gabor Matè https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/sep/06/authoritarianism-roots-origin?

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    Sep 7th 2024, 1:35 PM

    @Sean Sean: I absolutely love Gabor Maté. What an intellectual titan!

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    Sep 7th 2024, 1:37 PM

    @SV3tN8M4: Gardai would never comment on an on going investigation, no matter its nature. You have no idea what has happened to those kids, but to suggest that it’s a cover up is ridiculous. And for the last time, they are not my buddies in government. Now sod off with your baseless accusations

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    Sep 7th 2024, 1:39 PM

    @Darth O’Leary: it’s in Belfast, UK. So the investigation is nothing to do with the Irish state

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    Sep 7th 2024, 1:05 AM

    Two hyaenas emerging from the long grass, sidling towards their next meal

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    Sep 7th 2024, 2:37 AM

    @Darth O’Leary: I really would like to see if people like you would be brave enough to stand up and be counted. Never happen though. You’re a nobody. Darth.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 8:44 AM

    @Darth O’Leary: Civilisation is coming to get you.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 8:57 AM

    @Darth O’Leary: Comment is meaningless. Name calling and derogatory remarks flopped at the local and European elections.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:06 AM

    @Vincent Alexander: but are about to go centre stage stateside?

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:26 AM

    @offside again:

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:32 AM

    @offside again: You’re on here day and night, simping for Israeli and excusing their war crimes and genocide, so it makes sense that you would be enamored with these two

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:34 AM

    @thomas molloy: So Blueshirts and Zionazis constitute civilization now? No thanks

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:37 AM

    @offside again: How can you stand? If you aren’t willing to sell out your friends families and neighbours you won’t get in the door, and you KNOW that. How can any opposition make a mark when FFG pool together to form a cartel, these “celebrities” (looose term) are out there to bamboozle the process. Like the Brazilian lad they draughted in during the the Europeans, I hope people can see through the nonsense

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:53 AM

    @Darth O’Leary: in some ecosystems, when apex predator numbers get too low, the whole system can suffer, and even start to break down. Stability only returns once the predator numbers increase?

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:07 AM

    @brian o’leary: I must agree. Keep going like that and you’ll be in line for a government press secretary job, pal

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:09 AM

    @brian o’leary: Will be centre stage with Trump. I pity Americans if it pays off. Similarly here, such conduct is displaying a flawed character.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:10 PM

    @Freda Peeple: democracy isn’t a cartel

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    Sep 7th 2024, 1:29 AM

    Hate speech bill in coming, Then the fun will start in Ireland. All the Best.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:59 AM

    Good. Hate crime and their handling of increased immigration haven’t dented their support. Just bothers a loud, uneducated minority who got no seats.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:45 AM

    @9QRixo8H: Peadar you say that, BUT a lot of these migrants are 10 times more racist than your little brain can imagine, they have no scruples when it comes to beating up kids and the elderly as seen daily around Europe. They detest our culture. But yea the far right are too blame for all your failures in life.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:01 AM

    @Freda Peeple: Now do all those racist assaults – even by kids – on those they view as immigrants.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:46 AM

    @Freda Peeple: So many soundbites and unfounded claims in here. They’re emotive. I’ll give you that.

    ‘a lot of these migrants are 10 times more racist than your little brain can imagine’

    I’m sure there are a few bad eggs in there. Just like every single section of society. But this idea that everyone from Ukraine or people escaping persecution (sometimes from Islamic States!) are largely or unusually racist, is just daft. I often wonder if any of the people who make these sorts of comments actually encounter any refugees or migrants in their day-to-day lives. I’m highly dubious.

    ‘they have no scruples when it comes to beating up kids and the elderly as seen daily around Europe’

    Who are ‘they’? All of the migrants and asylum seekers?! Taking a few isolated instances and blowing them up into some panic and hysteria driving ‘fact’ is dangerous stuff. It’s especially dangerous when we are only a few weeks out from people trying to set fire to migrant accommodation in the UK. We had those vile instances of strangulation in Cork yesterday. People REALLY need to start thinking about the consequences of their words and language. There are a lot of dimwits out there who take all of this stuff seriously. They aren’t the sharpest tools in the box and take all of the hysteria and misinformation as fact. There are many around here who are positively giddy at the idea of mass violence and division. Every baseless and unfounded comment like yours, just adds to an already combustible situation.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:56 AM

    @SerotoninWars: Hear, hear!

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:03 PM

    @SerotoninWars: It was a certain protected minority who carried out that barbaric incident in cork, but we can’t say boo about them. And yes tensions are very high around the country, it’s a tinder box ready to ignite and it’s all the EU and a our weak governments fault, not the average Joe held to the pin of the collar trying to survive and keep a roof over their heads. We don’t owe every Tom dick and Harry who took 5 flights to get here a place to live, and we was country don’t owe anyone anything. We were once a colony ourselves subjected to same injustices that these alleged refugees suffered historically. We have 900k on waiting lists, overcrowded schools, No infrastructure, and certainly the housing to offer the 1.6bn potential people who are eyeing our tiny island up.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:05 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: All of the people making these grand sweeping statements, hyping up isolated instances and tarring vast swathes of people from completely different cultures and countries into one homogenous lump, need to think about how much blood they will be happy to have on their hands. There’s an entire army of dimwits out there who buy into this stuff. They have very little in the way of critical thinking skills and are looking for easy targets to take their frustrations out on. They often don’t even understand who they are attacking. They’ve been drinking from the hysteria fountain and anyone who looks a little bit different is seen as a valid target.

    It’s really worrying. you would think people would learn from history that this base take and sweeping demonisation of vast swathes of people, only leads to the darkest of places. Step back from the brink people. Your words = consequences on the street. Real humans with lives, feelings and dreams are the ones ending up in attempted strangulation scenarios like we saw in Cork yesterday.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:12 PM

    @SerotoninWars: Still waiting on a picture of the attempted strangulation. No videos online so far which is very odd as it happened in the middle of the day and normally there are a barrage of videos with different angles. the image being shown in the media has cropped the other end of a very slack looking rope. Something not quite right about that incident.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:15 PM

    @Freda Peeple: You mention our own history. A history that involved mass emigration to countries in different time zones and hemispheres. We are still at it too turning up in the UK and Australia in our droves. We have challenges for sure. But so many of the things you mention are not the fault of migrants and refugees. There’s never any upside presented. The fact that we NEED a significant amount of immigration with our ageing population. Many services such as health would die on their feet without it. Add in the cultural vibrancy that so many have brought to our country too.

    None of this ever gets mentioned. Only the marginalising dog whistles that make people scared and hateful. There’s been government mismanagement in so many areas. Taking out our frustrations on people who had nothing to do with this is completely unfair. Right now it’s highly dangerous too. All of these words leads to the violence we see reported. We’ve turned into a nation where it’s no great surprise to hear that some of us have set refugee accommodation alight. Is this really who we want to be? It’s terrifying how quickly far-right ideology has spread in certain circles. I naively thought our history would mean we wouldn’t fall for this in any meaningful way. I was wrong.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 1:11 PM

    @Freda Peeple: In the last couple of days alone there have been multiple reports of kids – kids – attacking people they viewed as immigrants.

    One victim was 80 years old.

    I’m sure you’re so proud.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 4:29 PM

    @087 bed: can’t come soon enough

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    Sep 7th 2024, 7:13 PM

    @Freda Peeple:
    Were they paid up members of the camping and caravaning club of Ireland by any chance?

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    Sep 8th 2024, 11:39 AM

    @Freda Peeple: we have people going round cork putting a rope over the heads of Indian students like a lynch mob .
    There are racists everywhere no matter what there colour or where they come from,they need to be called out , however you bs whataboutery to justify your own racist is pathetic, and show a lack of intelligence that is frankly absurd

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    Sep 8th 2024, 11:48 AM

    @Freda Peeple: unbelievable, because it doesn’t fit you bs narrative you dismissed even after it being reported in the media and a ongoing investigation

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    Sep 7th 2024, 7:16 AM

    Two of the greatest spoofers meeting to see who comes up with the greatest soundbite. Just how Harris is Taoiseach is beyond me.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 8:56 AM

    @Gerry Lamont: the lesser of 81 evils?

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:07 AM

    @Gerry Lamont: Anything to contribute to the important issue of Irish British relations. ? “Contrarians may be seen as courageous, unconventional, counterintuitive thinkers, able to withstand herding pressures and even abuse from crowd-following conformists. Others may see them as maverick, out-of-touch, denialists ‘living on another planet’ and unable to see the obvious.”

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:52 AM

    @thomas molloy: Well, British-Irish relations would be improved by British cooperation with investigations into state sponsored murder gangs that ran riot in Ireland… I won’t be holding my breath

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    Sep 7th 2024, 8:01 AM

    Not FFG fan but it would be nice to see some of the haters on here being constructive for a change.Relations with our nearest neighbour are relativately good at the moment and we need to keep it that way.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:11 AM

    @Willie Marty: 100%.

    It’s all just noise, little thought. Removes the value of the comment sections.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:15 AM

    @Willie Marty: Starmer is most hated PM in UK history and you think its a good thing that simple Simon is cosying up to him? We have MI5 running the gardai, mi6 infiltration of civil service take your head out your arsenal, the west brits of this island has made us UK 2.0

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:35 AM

    @Tom L: Your comment reads like a child firing an AK47

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:39 AM

    @Tom L: starmer is not the most hated Pm, your reliance on GB news and X platform is feeding a dividend narrative. Take the tinfoil hat off and try some fact checking.
    As they say, you may be entitled to an opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own facts.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:52 AM

    @Tom L: ‘Starmer is most hated PM in UK history’

    And that’s how you make anything typed after your opening sentence invalid. Daft attempt at propaganda. As if people have forgotten about Truss and Bojo that quickly. Thatcher sent the Ding Dong song into the top 10 of the charts when she died for crying out loud!

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:59 AM

    @Tom L: you made a right mug of yourself there Tom.Does the L stand for lunatic by any chance.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:04 AM

    @Tom L: Is everything ok, Tom?

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:08 AM

    @Tom L: Yea, Starmer is the most hated PM in UK history.

    That was why there was celebration in the streets when Thatcher was wending her way to the Warmer Climes.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:50 AM

    @Willie Marty: Yes,I’m not a soccer fan, or an FFG admirer ,admire Starmer,for heavens sake can’t we give them both a ” búlabos”Gaelic for hand clap” for the day that’s in it.!!

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    Sep 7th 2024, 1:22 PM

    @Elizabeth Doyle: agreed

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    Sep 7th 2024, 3:48 PM

    @Tom L: I thought that was Thatcher by a long margin.
    Starmer isn’t even in the running.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 7:42 AM

    Two shysters in their shirt sleeves to give the impression they’ve been working hard, paper politicians!

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    Sep 7th 2024, 8:38 AM

    @Brian Hunt: no, they loosen the ties when the want to give that impression!

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    Sep 7th 2024, 2:45 AM

    And sky bull advertising that Corsley won’t sing God save the king at landsdown road today. Sky should be told to stop inciting possibly trouble ect for there own gain in selling advertising for breaking news that they created.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 2:52 AM

    @Christopher Fealy: people need to question how 24/24h news exists.

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    Mute Thesaltyurchin
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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:57 PM

    @offside again: two existential stalwarts… money and addiction.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 8:36 AM

    Ring leaders of human trafficking

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    Sep 7th 2024, 6:58 AM

    Journal why not do a poll on wether people would like to go back to queueing for concert tickets again. Instead of online sales.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 6:29 AM

    NATO..FO! Sure…they’re lining up on our Atlantic flank to attack…run for the hills!

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    Sep 7th 2024, 7:08 AM

    @damien leen: safety in numbers, nato or learn Russian, which is it leen?

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    Sep 7th 2024, 8:40 AM

    @Basildon Joe: Neither. They’re both the bad guys.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:44 AM

    @Basildon Joe: Why dont you just build a bunker like the Paranoid Americans have been for decades now, get in it, close that lid nice and tight now, don’t want those nasty Russians getting in. I’ll come get you when it’s safe to come out and play again, ok!

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:28 AM

    @damien leen: some things are worth opposing. Putins Russia is one of them. Medvedev has stated clearly that he wants to nuke the west. Russian interference in Western affairs is well documented both by the west and by Russians themselves. You should watch some RT.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:46 AM

    @Anthony Curran: Without NATO, we would all be under the russian jackboot by now.

    Surely you realise that?

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:15 AM

    @Alan: wow…that’s the same psycho babble that made the Americans go half way around the world to get their arses kicked by the North viatmenese, thinking they were stopping the spread of Communisim. You should watch less TV.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:20 AM

    @Alan: And what region of people are the only ones to use nuclear weapons on civilians?
    And why did the Cuban missle crisis come about?
    “Russian interference” it takes 2 to tango…read a book!

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:22 AM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: I agree with Pope Francia in that it could have been NATO “barking at the gates of Russia” that started this war

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:29 AM

    @damien leen: no Leen, sometimes you need to stand and fight. You are living in fairyland pal if you think Ireland can sit this out. I would not like to be in the trenches with you and that defeatist attitude.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:45 AM

    @Ross: It was Putin that invaded and made rubble of Chechnya.

    It was Putin that invaded and made rubble of Georgia.

    It was Putin that tried and failed – twice – to install puppet regimes in Ukraine.
    It was Putin that invaded Crimea.
    It was Putin that invaded The Donbass region of Ukraine.
    It was Putin that expanded that invasion to the whole of Ukraine.

    russia needs to be cured of its National Disease.

    Only then will the world be safe from russian brutality, russian barbarity, russian atrocity, russian tyranny.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:28 PM

    @Basildon Joe: Okay Rambo, you go fight your imaginary enemies, let me know how that works out for you.
    And you seem to forget we remained neutral during that little spat WW2…Worked out alrite for us.
    Anyway off you go Ranbo…fight the good fight and all that jazz! Enjoy the trenches.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:41 PM

    @damien leen: and you seem to forget that russia initially signed a pact with Germany. Following the war countries were so happy to exist within the russian orbit that they took the first chance they got to leave it. It never ceases to amaze me how US failings are used to justify Russian oppression.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 1:26 PM

    @Alan: It wasnt til the Americans were were pushed to the absolute limit with Pearl Harbour they did bother to get directly involved in WW2. 3Years ww2 had been raging at that stage.
    And American involvement is what annoys me ie…Vietnam(paranoia about communism)…Kuwait (oil)…anywhere they bloody feel like they get involved, once they know it benefits them somehow…and they claim to do it in the name of Democracy.
    Their shameless selling of weapons to the Israelis is also sickening.
    So,the Russians are they good guys, no they’re not.
    Are they a threat to us…No they’re not.
    The Americans, are they good guys…absolutkey not yet they wave their Democracy in people’s faces to excuse their actions and most people eat it up.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 4:03 PM

    @damien leen: don’t be such a weakling boy. Your grandparents would be disgusted.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:19 AM

    Oh, take a break from moaning please!
    Or at least get treatment for your condition. It’s a fairly positive story and certainly a refreshing change from the awful Tories. I for one am glad to read this.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:00 AM

    “Ooh.. Fwends”

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:11 AM

    Oh look; we can comment on the meeting of the uni-party poster boy and the Marxist, but are not permitted to opine on the relentless agenda to pull us – against the long-held wishes of the majority – into NATO. Funny that…

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:54 PM

    @Marie Power: All these unnamed “sources” in NATO that the article relies on for it’s direction are completely reliable and non partisan I’d say. No need for any balance. Top quality journalism right there

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    Sep 7th 2024, 6:27 AM

    Hopefully kicks off at the match tonight, would be hilarious, especially with Keir Partridge in attendance.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:08 AM

    Steady, middle-of-the-road Leaders getting on with it is surely a good thing. Those frothing over this presumably prefer angry and partisan sound bites – maybe SF and the Tories running the show instead?

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:49 AM

    @Derick R M: Middle of which road exactly? Bank loving neo-liberal wet dreams whose only credence is that they are not socially far right. Best friends of vulture funds and corporations. If that’s the best working people can get then we have no hope.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 2:26 PM

    @Derick R M: Mercenary Media “friction sells better than friendship” and zombie opposition with nothing positive to say.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:08 AM

    Their time in the sun. Neither will be king for much longer.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:44 PM

    Yo Simon. Saw you out in Ukraine with your serious face on and telling Zelenski that you have his back and how you are helping his people here in Ireland, but yet for the past few nights my friends have been trying to get accommodation for a widow and her very young children. People who have been put out in the streets. Citiwest closed to them. I hope Zelinski can come to Ireland and see through your lies.
    Enjoy the match.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:49 AM

    What ??? (I only read the headline).

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:52 AM

    @offside again: well you need to STFU then don’t you.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 2:31 AM

    @John Doe: what did I say that upset you so much ?

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:49 AM

    I would like to know who stage-managed the photo that they should both emerge without a jacket,two useless individuals.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:58 AM

    @K O: It’s so transparent. Almost every picture of Simon that the journal publishes is taken upwards from ground level. In fairness, he needs all the help he can get when it comes to looking statesmanlike

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:31 AM

    @K O: It’s stage managed, it’s why Harris has surrounded himself with staff recruited from main stream Irish media. Journalists are queuing up to get gigs with Govt & now even running for them, Irish Journalism is dead, hence Govt running amok & weekly scandals like the Bike Shed. The no jacket thing & sleeves rolled up is all carefully choreographed, best buddies ready for action or drinking pints like their previous meeting. No substance to either of them.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:03 AM

    Stamer is now going to means test the winter fuel allowance for pensioners and disabled people. I think his right, any means tested allowance in Ireland is 6 months bank statements, utility bills, and more importantly earn less than 18k. And they look for your P21.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 9:53 AM

    “Cause I’ve got friends in low places”

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:11 AM

    Oooohhhhh…friends…..prime minister friends…

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:50 AM

    Surprised that they aren’t holding hands. Remember Bertie and Blair’s love in, remember how that ended, brown envelope Bertie and war pig Blair. The Irish will never get respect from Britain because their attitude is still the same to us, inferior.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 2:36 PM

    @Brian D’Arcy: I think most countries think they are superior to other countries.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 7:25 PM

    @Brian D’Arcy:
    Take a holiday in any of the Costa’s where the English council housing estates empty out in to during the summer.
    It will cure your inferiority complex. Pure thick. How their Norman French betters managed to use them to build an empire I do not know.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:39 AM

    Neo-liberal fwends!

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:13 AM

    It’s great for the happy couple , just walk side by side, and don’t forget to smile for the camera.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:12 AM

    Some security operation in place ?If that was a game of rugby….very different then!

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    Sep 7th 2024, 11:28 AM

    Some commenters will be getting the memo: ‘Come reclaim your minds’ – Lost Property Dept.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:38 AM

    We’ve some chance if advancement in the North with a Labour government anyway

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    Sep 8th 2024, 11:45 AM

    @Ronan Mc: yes ,they are broke and the north is costing a fortune,won’t be to long until the English start to complain,then we are in like flint:)

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    Sep 7th 2024, 10:40 AM

    The union of aristocracy, blood and power should be dissolved and a new one should be implemented that has the economic interests of these islands at it’s core. We would need Europe.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 3:53 PM

    @Thesaltyurchin: It’s a work in progress. The first step was the Magna Carta. The French took a more drastic step a few centuries later. There have been many others and the Russian’s rather problematic approach has muddied the waters a tad
    Given the timescale so far I wouldn’t hold my breath for the finishing celebration.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:23 PM

    They are poles away politically. They definitely can’t be friends. Just watch the whole speech about labour TDs when they have the chance

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    Sep 8th 2024, 11:43 AM

    @Dominic Leleu: how are they poles apart , labour is not a left wing party any more ,
    I guy who stands there and tells you that he’s working class in a 20 grand suit doesn’t have a clue what is going on .
    Labour party is only different from the Tory party by the fact that they are not criminals trying to fleece the country for their own ends .

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    Sep 7th 2024, 1:44 PM

    Starmers father was a tool maker.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 8:38 PM

    Of course there friends birds of a feather

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    Sep 7th 2024, 12:06 PM

    With the greatest respect, and without flinging mud, it would appear some might suggest while the Irish Government have been somewhat absent in their husbandry are now cramming. Starmer is displaying a slightly too enthusiastic stick, and leaving the carrots to rot in the ground. Those who never had too much money, win the lotto and splurge unapologetically will know what I mean. There is a dial to leadership, not just the one you sit and debate in.

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    Mute Garreth Byrne
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    Sep 7th 2024, 5:03 PM

    Anything about cultural relations? Say, a Shakespearean play tours Ireland and an Abbey play tours England, Scotland and Wales. PS: a re-set of British-Irish relations is not only an English-Irish thing.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 7:15 PM

    @Garreth Byrne:
    You said Culture and Abbey in the one sentence.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 7:43 PM

    @H Woo: Some Abbey actors pronounce it kulsher begorrah.

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    Sep 7th 2024, 4:02 PM

    We are part of a universal world ,that goes back centuries, the universe needs hope ,so let’s challenge our narrative xxx

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