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KAMALA HARRIS AND Donald Trump shook hands today at New York’s 9/11 memorial to mark the anniversary of the attacks, briefly putting politics aside hours after they clashed in a fiery presidential debate.
The solemn display of unity was a stark contrast to the scenes from the previous evening, when the Democratic vice president forced the rattled Republican former president onto the defensive in a bruising encounter in front of tens of millions of viewers.
President Biden, Vice President Harris, former President Trump, Sen. JD Vance and Former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg at 9/11 Ceremony in New York. pic.twitter.com/nK19YKABjB
— CSPAN (@cspan) September 11, 2024
Any sense of harmony from the commemoration of the 2001 Al-Qaeda attacks is likely to be short-lived, with the election still on a knife-edge with just two months to go, despite polls showing a crushing debate win for Harris.
The 78-year-old Trump came out swinging even before the ceremony, claiming in an interview with Fox News – without evidence – that the ABC News debate in Philadelphia was “rigged” against him.
“It was a rigged deal, as I assumed it would be, because when you looked at the fact that they were correcting everything and not correcting with her,” he complained, referring to pushback from the moderators to some of his more brazenly false statements.
Trump later appeared to reject the Harris campaign’s call for a second debate, comparing the 59-year-old Harris to a beaten boxer demanding another chance and saying on social media: “Why would I do a Rematch?”
The rivals kept their animosity hidden at the Ground Zero memorial however, in an extraordinary encounter that also included President Joe Biden, who dropped out of the race in July.
Biden, 81, looked on as Harris and Trump shared their second handshake in the space of a few hours – having also done so at the start of the debate in an unexpected move prompted by Harris.
It also marked just the second time Trump and Harris have ever met in person, with their first encounter coming at the debate in Pennsylvania.
Trump passed up an earlier opportunity when he refused to attend Biden’s 2021 inauguration, due to his false claims that he had won the 2020 election.
Former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg appeared to initiate the greeting in New York, touching Harris on the arm to get her attention before she and Trump shook and exchanged a few words.
Wearing commemorative blue ribbons, they all then watched as the names of the almost 3,000 victims of the attacks on the Twin Towers were read out.
“We stand in solidarity with their families and loved ones. We also honour the extraordinary heroism on display that fateful day by ordinary Americans helping their fellow Americans,” Harris said in a statement.
Harris and Biden – who have appeared several times together at political events since Biden bowed out following a disastrous debate against Trump – headed later to the site in Pennsylvania where a hijacked plane crashed on 9/11.
A third was flown into the Pentagon outside Washington.
The solemn atmosphere could not have been more different to last night’s debate, the biggest night so far of the shortest and possibly the most dramatic election campaign in modern US history.
Both candidates declared victory but it was former prosecutor Harris who landed blows on issues including abortion, and repeatedly managed to bait convicted felon Trump into angry remarks on past grievances.
A CNN snap poll said Harris performed better than Trump by 63% to 37%, while a YouGov poll said Harris laid out a clearer plan by 43% to 32%.
US media and commentators broadly agreed that Harris had come out on top – but that it may not move the dial much in a deeply polarised and entrenched electorate.
Republican strategist Liam Donovan said Trump “largely whiffed” in his efforts to tie his opponent to Biden.
“It will surely boost morale at a time when Democrats are getting anxious,” he told AFP.
Harris got another boost with US pop megastar Taylor Swift offering her backing minutes after the debate.
Trump said Swift would “probably pay a price for it in the marketplace.”
But the race remains neck-and-neck going into the final stretch, and America’s first female, Black and South Asian vice president insists she is the underdog.
Harris heads Thursday to North Carolina and Trump is due onstage in Arizona, two of the half-dozen swing states expected to decide the election.
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I absolutely can’t bear Windows 8, it’s useless unless you have a touchscreen monitor, just saying :)
I am surprised you got any red thumbs for that. I thought the general consensus was Windows 8 is awful. I certainly wont be upgrading anytime soon, and honestly, if a better OS comes around, i would love the opportunity to jump ship from Microsoft
I bought a laptop with Win8 and had to install Win7. I actually cried with frustration trying to use Win8.
Try installing Windows Shell and Skip Metro Suite – both free, your Windows 8 will basically skip the live tiles, go straight to the desktop and the Start button is restored.
Shite… it’s “Classic Shell”, sorry
Not sure I can switch back to Win8 now. But thanks anyway, Cpm.
There are already better OSs available, if you’re not tied to windows specific software, then both OSX and Linux are far better, more secure operating systems. If you want to use an existing pc, then opt for linux, one of the many flavours of Ubuntu is worth checking out, lubuntu works well on older equipment, you can dual boot so you don’t loose windows while checking out linux.
You’re a funny man, if they can’t switch from metro to windows desktop on windows 8, how on earth do you expect them to use Linux? Or worse still, Mac OS?
MS may have made some errors with the stupid charms on Windows 8, but it’s still far better and does more than any other OS, that’s the reason Windows is still no. 1.
Windows 3.1 was my first OS, IBM 386 at the tender age of 11! Remember being so excited installing a 33.6k modem in the next machine.. Contact!! Anyway, have to drop my anorak to the dry cleaners..
And upgrading from 4 meg of ram to 8 meg was orgasmic. Trying to find proper video/sound/network and modem drives was some craic! 1 meg download every 3 minutes :-)
Remember fiddling with IRQ jumpers? Jaysis.. We got one of those fancy black IBM Aptivas with the pop up media bay. Came with a DVD player…. But no decoder card!
Oh yeah.
I tried to connect to a VPN on a Windows 8 machine recently, having (mostly) used XP the past 12-13 years I nearly put my foot through the machine.
Hopefully the swift demise of Win8 in the short term and a better interface for those of us not using touchscreens.
You can download software on windows 8 machines that gives you the windows 7 interface, very handy and it a free as well.
The Windows 9 ui will be device dependent, basically if you use it on a desktop you’ll get a desktop interface, and a mobile ui on mobile devices
what’s the point of buying windows 8, then downloading software to make it seem like the earlier version?
You’re missing Windows NT and Windows 2000 Pro,
Windows 2000 Pro was pretty rock solid as far as Windows went, Windows ME never should have been released instead they should have worked on game comparability for Windows 2000 Pro and released that to the general public instead of business only.
Probably left out because they’re more for business, than personal, pc’s
Perhaps, but the article refers to what people used in school or work.
:)
Fair enough!
Maybe they’re working from home though!
NT 3.51 was a beast. Rock solid. As was NT 4.0.
As you would expect from the guy who wrote VMS and who MS stole from DEC to write NT :-)
The Commodore 64 back in the eighties, i well remember when we had to get in the queue for night classes.
Windows 8 = Mac 1.0
Macs are good. But in 30 yrs of technical publications work I’ve not once encountered a Apple product. Never, nay…
Gimme DOS any day. Id love a game of prince of persia now. Best game ever…
… And Lemmings, I used to love Chuck Yaeger’s flight simulator too.
Doom and wolf were more classics from that era.
Wolf = Castle Wolfenstein? If so, great game.
The very same. Dont make em like they used to
I’ll challenge anyone to a game of quake or doom!
What about Half-Life? Legend!
Doom was the first program that I can recall actually getting frightened playing.
F15 strike eagle II anyone?
Robocop,chuckie egg,rainbow island,batman and ikari warrior on the Amstrad 6128+.. great music! Must get it fixed and have a burn off em again…
Leisure Suit Larry :)
Eagles Nest on the Amstrad! Took forever to load though!!
Gorillas on dos 3.0 get your angles correct and hit that other gorilla brilliant.
Half life was deadly alan
harrier attack!!
So many rage moments with Windows ME. There was many a blue-screen-of-death to be had.
Fail to understand all the moaning in the comments……..just get a Mac. When you go Mac you will never go back! No viruses and they just work! ( just in case I get a reply that there are Mac viruses out there….OK …perhaps but I have never had any, nor know anyone who ever had one either , never seen any evidence ever ever). Windows users just wish there were…but they don’t exist
I primarily use Mac, but in my line of work I need to use Windows (and sometimes Linux), as do a lot of others I imagine! Not everyone can afford the Mac price-tag like yourself Dave!
When you get a mac you become a slave to the temple of Steve Jobs, start dressing like a hipster, wasting money on Starbucks slop as well as you suddenly wont mind paying well over the odds for Foxconn-made junk that will die just when the warranty expires.
Why would I buy a Mac, I want an computer not a Facebook machine for twice the price
Virus for macs are not so common because NO ONE uses Mac for anything important, it would be a total waste of time infecting a Mac, all you would gain…. Anyway enjoy you draconian DDRM and not actually owning your machine and software
There are so few viruses for macs because NO ONE uses them for important work, it is a complete waste of time developing virus for a facebook machine that you don’t actually own, you just paid for the right to used it and steals the rights to your photos and videos.
Enjoy you draconian DDRM and no games
There are so few viruses for macs because NO ONE uses them for important work, it is a complete waste of time developing virus for a facebook machine that you don’t actually own, (you just paid for the right to used it) and steals the rights to your photos and videos.
Enjoy you draconian DDRM and no games
Dave, only idiots and naive users get viruses these days! Doesn’t matter which OS you use.
Journal must be using Mac servers for verification purposes, ignore my duplicate posts please
“just get a Mac”
A Mac is fine if you’re looking for a toy for playing games and messing on facebook. Some of us are developers and want our software to function on more than just macs.
There’s a lot of developers who use Macs (myself included).
Build a Hackintosh :-D
No one user them for important work, most developers I know use mac, the others use Linux, only those forced would ever use windows, add to that film production, music, photography etc, etc, you clearly have never used a mac. Mind you it appears from your post that you regard “important work” as playing games!
I develop for iOS and android on a mac, in fact really the limit is you need a windows machine if you want to use microsofts tools for developing for windows. you have the roles reversed. Most developers I know find windows a pain to develop on. Linux or mac all the way.
Tomás is clearly using a PC. Clearly using a PC. Clearly using a PC…..
“There’s a lot of developers who use Macs (myself included).”
They’re called losers.
Could you elaborate a bit more on that Jack, please?
Sad pee cee addict! Microsoft have you addicted to inferior quality and virus ridden junk.
Dave, do you think there are fewer viruses for macs because of something Apple did to protect you? If so, you are sadly mistaken… and vulnerable.
I wrote my first (and last) virus as an MS DOS batch file. Must have been about 15 years ago.
If it was a batch file it was not a virus.
When I was 15 I used to sometimes walk into a store that was selling PCs and put several of them out on display. I’d change the autoexec.bat file so that when it booted up next it would format the harddrive. It eventually taught them to lock down their machines =D
I remember using the dos editor to blank .pwl files, log into store PCs then change the the screensaver to statements about how “I rock”. Simpler times
” I’d change the autoexec.bat file so that when it booted up next it would format the harddrive. ”
I didn’t think you could automatically confirm a y/n for something like that using ms dos.
Mine was along the same lines, except it installed automatically from a floppy disk, then four or five reboots later it deleted all of the exe files, renamed itself and the clean autoexec(old).bat file, then delete itself, leaving the non malicious file there. I created it because I was being sent abroad for a week, for work, and some smartass on work experience in the office started telling me, quite seriously, that he would take my job when I was gone. He was gone when I got back, not sure if it was my doing, or not.
Perhaps it isn’t a virus as you pointed out, malicious programme/file so.
Now you mention it, I might have used deltree rather than format. One way or another there was a switch that disabled the prompt. Was too long ago now.
Windows 8 is great, it runs very fast on laptops and is super compatible with everything, people can’t handle having to learn something new.. I found Windows 8 to be very user friendly, it took about 3 days to get used to the new interface…I suppose people out there want a modern looking windows xp?
A lot would argue they already had a win xp replacement in win 7.
Where’s Windows 98 Second Edition?!
Prior to Windows 2000 Pro, Windows 98SE was pretty good
Windows 95 was huge success by focusing on the end user. That was nearly 20 years ago. As response to recent editions has been luke-warm, what will the next 20 years bring us from MS?
Still takes 10 minutes to boot up, so no improvement there.
Been looking, The new pc’s have windows 8.1 pre-installed, the start button has been re-introduced. I’m on 7 at the moment, machine is on life support, so I’m just going to have to suck it up and move with the times.
@Susan – you can fields two free programmes that basically make your PC Win 7 again, the first is called Start Menu ( I think), and the second skips the tiles and goes straight to the Win 8 desktop, I can’t remember that one’s name though. They work a dream.
*Windows Shell, and Skip Metro Suite.
Surprised you couldn’t come up with a pun on your pen name Cpm …
?
I liked xp but have been using mac since 2006 and have not looked back
What about windows 2000? It came out at the same time as windows ME and was far superior, based on windows NT technology. Windows XP was not a successor to windows ME, it was a successor to windows 2000 because MS decided to abandon their extremely buggy stream that originated with windows 95 in favour of the one that originated with windows NT.
Is anyone still running CP/M or CP/M 86?
Used to need it to run WordStar, SuperCalc and dBaseII on an Apple II.
I think some CP/M machines are still running. Originated at JPL in Pasadena, IIRC.
Those were the days. I remember getting excited about 300baud modem speeds.
Don’t forget “Windows RG” windows really good edition. Link: http://windowsreallygoodedition.com note adobe flash required and use a full web browser for best experience!
Started out on dos and windows 3 also used gem for project planning software
That was last week wasn’t it? :P
Geoworks/PC-Geos is worth mentioning. It came pre-installed on top of msdos on Philips PCs here in the early 90s. As well as the Nokia 9000 Smartphone, HP omnigo proto tablet and an ATT tablet. Stable fast and tightly coded. With great vector graphics. Everything Windows 3 was not. Microsoft forced manufacturers to buy licences for every PC they produced. Whether their product was installed. Killing off any competition before it could get a foothold.
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