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Over 120 children were without a school place at the beginning of September. Alamy Stock Photo

People Before Profit motion calls for ‘immediate emergency action on special needs provision’

The motion also seeks an additional €2.5 billion in funding for disability payments and services in 2025.

PEOPLE BEFORE PROFIT have introduced a motion calling for “immediate emergency action on disability and special needs provision”.

Speaking in the Dáil this evening, People Before Profit’s Paul Murphy said it is the “perseverance, strength, courage” of parents to “keep fighting for their children in the face of adversity that keeps this issue on the political agenda”.

The motion noted that over 10,000 children are awaiting an Assessment of Need, while over 110,000 are awaiting essential therapies.

It also notes that over 120 children were without a school place at the beginning of September.

Meanwhile, it highlighted how only 1,028 out of 3,300 primary schools have autism classes, while this figure is 410 out of 710 for post primary schools.

The motion also notes that over 1,000 children with disabilities were without school transport at the beginning of September.

Among other things, the motion calls on the Government to double the number of places available in universities for therapeutic courses and to ensure Assessments of Needs are “carried out and recommended supports and therapies given within the legal timeframe”.

It also calls for “emergency action” to be implemented to provide “appropriate school places for all those who need them now” and to ensure every school has an autism class.

The motion also seeks an additional €2.5 billion in funding for disability payments and services in 2025.

Murphy told the Dáil that “how children with additional needs are treated in this State is a national disgrace”.

“I’m confident that in years to come, a Taoiseach will be sitting over there making a State apology for how these children were so badly failed by the State,” added Murphy.

He also claimed that there is a “lack of fight for the most vulnerable children in our society” under the current government, while the Government “fought for years for the rights of Apple to not pay any taxes”.

In response, Hildegarde Naughton, Government Chief Whip with responsibility for Special Education and Inclusion, said “enabling children with special educational needs to receive an appropriate education is a priority for this Government”.

“Of course, there are very significant challenges, and I want to reaffirm my commitment to continuing to work to ensure that families and schools are supported,” said Naughton.

She said it is “unacceptable” that there are still “some children today who have not yet secured a school place for this school year”.

“While there is spare capacity in the system, the problem is that capacity isn’t always close to where children live,” said Naughton.

And while she said “most schools are helpful in providing special class spaces, a very small number have to be encouraged, and in some cases instructed, to open special classes using legislative powers”.

Such legislative powers were used twice this year.

Meanwhile, Anne Rabbitte, Minister of State for Disability said “this Government is fully committed to people with disabilities and their families”.

She added that there are “important challenges which must be addressed”.

“I personally know of the frustrations families experience in accessing the services they need,” said Rabbitte.

“However, I want to tell you that the government has listened to the families and is pursuing significant investment and reform as part of the programme of radical transformation across disability services.”

She added that recruitment and retention of staff providing disabilities services is “presenting challenges to the HSE” but that the HSE “continues to explore a range of options to enhance the recruitment and retention of staff”.

“While we have made significant progress over the last five years, I think we all acknowledge how important it is that we continue to develop services so that all children are provided an appropriate level of service,” said Rabbitte.

“The scale of the challenges in this area is well understood by the government and the HSE, however, substantial and concrete efforts are being made to focus on finding workable solutions to improve services and support for children with disabilities and their families.

“I am acutely aware that no one wants to see a child having to wait one year, one month or one day more than necessary to receive the therapy support that they need.”

Elsewhere, Rabbitte said there were 3,393 children on the CAMHS waiting list in July, a decrease of 900 when compared to December 2022.

She added that as of the end of July, 94.2% of “urgent cases were responded to within 72 hours”.

She also noted that this year’s Budget had a record €2.8 billion for community-based disability services.

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    Mute Brian Keelty
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    May 15th 2014, 1:25 PM

    Moodys, Fitches and S&P… why do we care or listen to them. They triple A rates junk bonds on the sub prime mortgage fiasco… If they for those so wrong why listen to their opinion????

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    Mute Saul goodman
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    May 15th 2014, 1:31 PM

    We don’t have to care what they think but when we need money it matters

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    Mute Emily Elephant
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    May 15th 2014, 1:33 PM

    Because lots of investment funds are only allowed to invest in bonds with a certain rating from those agencies. If you get a better rating, you get more demand, hence higher price, hence lower cost of borrowing new money.

    Personally I wouldn’t trust Moodys to tell me what day it is, but that’s not how funds work.

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    Mute Ryan Carroll
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    May 15th 2014, 1:40 PM

    Emily Saul that is no reason to give them more credibility. We have to take it into account, but if I was making decisions I’d want a few other corroborating data points before I’d base any decision off these peoples opinion.

    They were more responsible for the crash than nearly any other single factor by mislabeling exploding mortgages as AAA rated investments in a massive fraud.
    They should have been wound up and new agencys with new personnel put in their place…but why would we do that, we didn’t bother doing any other serious financial reforms…

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    Mute SeanieRyan
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    May 15th 2014, 1:41 PM

    The people that countries borrow money off listen to them and use them to set the rates. So we do not have to listen but we certainly are affected by it.

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    Mute Saul goodman
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    May 15th 2014, 1:41 PM

    Give them credibility or not it doesn’t really matter. They are what they are and they are going nowhere

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    Mute Brian Keelty
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    May 15th 2014, 1:41 PM

    It was a rhetorical question…… I know why we do.. We have no choice as a small country… but why does any investor or country on mass do so

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    May 15th 2014, 1:43 PM

    They must be doing something right or else investors are losing money……

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    Mute Emily Elephant
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    May 15th 2014, 1:44 PM

    Warren Buffett called it the lemming effect. While lemmings as a whole have a terrible reputation, no individual lemming has ever been singled out for criticism.

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    Mute Nigel O'Neill
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    May 15th 2014, 1:46 PM

    Exactly Brian!!
    We know how corrupt the ‘free market’ and powers that be are..thus given how much emphasis is placed on bond status done by these rating agencies, the question is how are they regulated and by who!???
    It would be ridiculous in the extreme to believe they were truly impartial and independent!

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    Mute Brian Keelty
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    May 15th 2014, 1:51 PM

    And Nigel wins the top prize. ….

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    May 15th 2014, 1:54 PM

    Our barely above junk paper is trading with below 3% yields! I wouldn’t be so certain the markets still attach the same value to the opinions of these agencies that they once did.

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    May 15th 2014, 1:57 PM

    Moody morons. What do they really know?

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    May 15th 2014, 2:08 PM

    I would not say they are going nowhere at all Saul, theres another crash coming, anyone familiar with the insane risks currently being taken on the international markets can see that. Were in for a period of sluggish semi-ok but anemic GDP growth (a jobless recovery) followed by another crash and the scale of the risks being taken will mean that no bailouts will be possible this time.

    I only hope we get people in charge in the US and UK who can see the writing on the wall in time and go back to pre80s financial regulation.

    Also Saul the ‘must be doing something right’ comment is PAINFULLY naive…I used to have people say stuff like that to me in 07 when I was trying to yell ICEBERG ICEBERG back when you could count those of us seeing the thing on one hand, what you got was smug replies about how ”were doing ok so far” and ”soft landings”.
    They were making money for people with the sub prime mortgage securitization scam and that ended up getting away from them and crashing the global economy.

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    May 15th 2014, 2:14 PM

    Ryan I’m not saying I agree with the system. I’m just saying that it’s not going to change anytime soon. You are properly correct when you say another crash is in the way. I’m not an expert or even close to being one. Are you telling me that nobody (investors) actually listens to ratings agencies? BTW I tried to sell my house in 2006 because I could clearly see the writing was on the wall. Unfortunately I had no idea how bad it was actually going to be or I would have dropped the price a lot more!!!

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    May 15th 2014, 2:16 PM

    Putting your faith in those in charge in the US and UK to “see the writing on the wall” and act is a bit naive too Ryan. The ones in charge are the ones orchestrating the crashes – doesn’t take a professor to work out the ultimate consequences of pumping upwards of $40bn in new liquidity every month into capital markets.

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    May 15th 2014, 2:24 PM

    No no quite the opposite Saul…sadly…to my eternal horror they listen to them as if they never had any history of fraud whatsoever. Talking to people in the financial sector today and I’m talking about traders investors not bank tellers the smugness is shocking, and I feel kinda bad saying that cos some of them are friends, we’ve generally agreed to avoid this topic in our conversation, but they act as if the 08 crash had nothing to do with them, and no mistakes were made, that it was all govt policy mistakes or people ”dumb enough” to buy houses above their grade.

    I don’t beleive crashes are orchestrated I’ve seen too much of the inside of the top of the political and financial systems to beleive that, the more scary (imo) reality is they are unplanned and people are bumbling through oblivious to the consequences of their actions (politicans)..or just not caring (in the case of the financial sector)

    Even in the best most ideal financial reform we’d still need ratings agencys…I’m not saying lets stop being capitalists and bring on the central planning, just that these particular actors should have been swept away and new people and organizations put in their place, we could still do that and should.
    Short of that, I’m saying we should take what they say with a grain of salt and look to corroboration for everything they say.

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    May 15th 2014, 2:36 PM

    Is it worth pointing our none of the triple A bonds defaulted. They were a lot riskier than people thought but if held to maturity none defaulted.

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    May 15th 2014, 2:46 PM

    I think we need to be clear about what the rating agencies’ fraud was, because usually it is trotted out by crusties who don’t know what they are talking about.

    The obvious type of fraud they could commit would be to overstate the prospects of investments in which they already had a stake. People buy in and they cash out. There’s absolutely no evidence of this type of fraud whatsoever. So whenever it gets trotted out, it is easily dismissed.

    At the other end of the scale is incompetence. Getting it wrong, even getting it spectacularly wrong as the rating agencies did, is hugely damaging. But it is not fraud.

    That is the distinction which the agencies have been able to draw so far. But it is a false dichotomy. In between those two extremes is an area which in my opinion isn’t grey at all.

    The way the subprime loans worked was that junk was bundled up with apparently good stuff, so that overall the investment was seen as fairly safe and graded accordingly. These were then themselves mixed up, repeatedly, on the insane theory that if risk was spread around far enough, it effectively disappeared.

    By the end of this chain, the instruments which were being sold to Norwegian pension funds and Canadian cities were based on an incredibly complicated basket of assets. By some estimates, in order to conduct a due diligence exercise on any one of those instruments, you would have had to read one billion pages of documents. This is of course impossible.

    And it is the very fact that it is impossible which makes the rating agencies fraudulent. They were giving a rating to securities when they had absolutely no idea whether or not they were good investments – and must have known that they couldn’t possibly have any basis to rate them.

    The theory is that the agencies have escaped prosecution because they have threatened to destroy the credit rating of any country which tries. This at least has the whiff of credibility. It cuts down the number of countries who would be in a position to give it a go, and certainly rules out the US.

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    May 15th 2014, 2:51 PM

    Subprime was never mixed up with prime mortgages in CDO’s. You fundamentally misunderstand what a CDO is…

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    May 15th 2014, 2:57 PM

    6 year old video but explains the problem well.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb_R1-PqRrw

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    May 15th 2014, 1:26 PM

    An upgrade would upset the Whingers. They should leave announcement until after weekend.

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    May 15th 2014, 1:49 PM

    This will drive the Sinn Fein shills mad.

    Good news under this Government puts them into a dark rage, verbal diarrhea and lashing out insults at everyone. Their economic think tank had been hoping for a second bailout.

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    May 15th 2014, 1:32 PM

    As a measure of current market sentiment, this is fine; as a measure of economic and financial reality, it is delusional.

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    May 15th 2014, 1:51 PM

    Given the Agencies’ rating of US sovereign debt, their indebtedness and the state of their economy, this upgrade for Ireland is relatively realistic if not too little.

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    May 15th 2014, 2:56 PM

    ” likely to upgrade Irish debt to Baa2 from Baa3 ”

    This company run by sheep or something?

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    May 15th 2014, 4:19 PM

    Well, the deficit is heading towards 3% of GDP?

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    May 15th 2014, 1:29 PM

    the only thing its confirming is the abality of Baldie and Givememore to bitch slap a capitve population

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    May 15th 2014, 1:47 PM

    fock moodys vankers

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    May 15th 2014, 1:30 PM

    It’s just another euphemism for” your still trash lads” . Long ways from the heady days of triple A

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    May 15th 2014, 1:33 PM

    Heading the right way though

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    May 15th 2014, 2:38 PM

    Baa2 is a long way from Caa1/2/3. Anything but trash.

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