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A view of the West Bank settlement of Modiin Ilit. Alamy Stock Photo

Should the Occupied Territories Bill be passed?

The Bill was brought forward by independent senator Frances Black in 2018, but is yet to be passed.

A NUMBER OF Opposition TDs have said the Dáil should sit through the mid-term recess next week in order to pass the Occupied Territories Bill.  

The Bill, which was brought forward by independent senator Frances Black in 2018, seeks to prevent Ireland from trading in goods and services imported from illegally occupied territories anywhere in the world, which would include the occupied territories in Palestine.

Green Party leader Roderic O’Gorman said yesterday that the necessary changes to the bill are unlikely to be complete before the Dáil dissolves before the end of the year, and therefore will not be passed before the general election.

Supporters of Israel have been fiercely critical of the bill, and some have sought to incorrectly characterise it as a total ban on all trade with the state of Israel.

Others argue that enacting the bill is more important now than ever.

So today we’re asking: Should the Occupied Territories Bill be passed?


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Yes (8108)
No (1306)
Unsure (438)

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    Mute F1rYnpWc
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    Nov 11th 2024, 4:09 PM

    FF,FG had their chance to solve housing. Give them no votes.

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    Mute Paul Gorry
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    Nov 11th 2024, 11:21 PM

    @F1rYnpWc: Watching the two best dressed men, Darragh O Brien (ff) and pascal Donoghue(fg) on rte a few minutes ago proves your very well made point. Two rabbits caught in the headlights. The opposition made them look like fools. Fffg OUT…

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    Mute Tim Brennan
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    Nov 11th 2024, 11:27 PM

    @F1rYnpWc: no problem except the only track record SF is in blowing them up

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    Mute Paul Gorry
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    Nov 11th 2024, 11:33 PM

    @Tim Brennan: 2024! And you’re still licking a lolipop for 100 years of failure.

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    Mute Tim Brennan
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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:28 AM

    @Paul Gorry: when you gang up with hairy fairy proposals that the banks won’t give you a mortgage for doesn’t sound very promising

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    Mute Tim Brennan
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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:29 AM

    @Paul Gorry: no problem any better than the provos from Belfast running this country look north the provos are in power with even more difficult housing problems

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    Mute Colette Byrne
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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:39 AM

    @Tim Brennan: well they well ans truly blew them up tonight, neither fffg had a leg to stand on.

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    Mute Paul Gorry
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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:58 AM

    @Tim Brennan: Like every fffg lover jumping on the bandwagon, hey tim!! Liberal Democrats, Labour, and ritchie also put them in their place.Nowhere to hide anymore tim. Fffg = Fail. Carry on with your fffg ( love in) tim. The rich agree with you, the homeless don’t IMO…

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    Mute Paul M Doe
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    Nov 12th 2024, 1:04 AM

    First debate was a home run for the mighty FG :)

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    Mute Sheila McNulty
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    Nov 12th 2024, 5:24 PM

    @Paul Gorry: talking nonsense so they have respect going on television both of whom always dress well , & neither are fools, so your point is is on here to make you feel better by trying to belittle them grow up

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    Mute Sheila McNulty
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    Nov 12th 2024, 5:37 PM

    @Colette Byrne: dream on

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    Mute Frank Mc Carthy
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    Nov 11th 2024, 4:09 PM

    I’m not a housing market analyst— but OBVIOUSLY prices will be inflated with these kinds of market interventions

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    Mute Brendan O'Brien
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    Nov 11th 2024, 5:42 PM

    @Frank Mc Carthy: How could you be a housing market analyst when you’re a full-time Internet troll?

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    Mute Paul M Doe
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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:37 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: people in glass houses lol

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    Mute Sean Stevenson
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    Nov 11th 2024, 4:30 PM

    Exactly what FFG want to appease their homeowner base. Every single policy of theirs adds upwards pressure on housing prices by providing buyers with more capital (FHS, HTB, etc) without providing anything substantial regarding increasing supply (Such as removing height limits for apartments, what skyline are we preserving? Have you ever looked up in Dublin? Nothing impressive). FFG are architecting a demographic timebomb, which will lead to the collapse of our pension system, due to young people not being able to afford a house, never mind start a family. Stuck in the rent trap because FFG have successfully sold our countries property market to the highest bidder instead of treating housing as the essential fabric of society that it is. Vote anybody but FFG. Don’t give them any preference

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    Mute Mr “JonnieBoy” Johnson
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    Nov 11th 2024, 5:24 PM

    @Sean Stevenson: if massive supply comes in time, fast forward 5 years and all those who buy will be in negative equity and some apartment blocks will be the new slums of the future.

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    Mute The next small thing
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    Nov 11th 2024, 5:33 PM

    @Sean Stevenson: According to experts in the field, it costs over 500k to build a 2 bedroom apartment in Dublin. If you go higher then these costs will rise, so who will buy these apartments and who will take the risk building them? Or is the plan to keep building 3 bed semi’s and just cover the country with them.Until the country gets some sort of control on the numbers arriving into the country no party will be able to even mke a dent in the housing crisis.

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    Mute Sean Stevenson
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    Nov 11th 2024, 5:56 PM

    @Mr “JonnieBoy” Johnson: Oh nooooo!! Not negative equity!!! Screw our young being able to buy a home, won’t somebody think of the poor homeowners.

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    Nov 11th 2024, 11:25 PM

    @The next small thing.
    Firstly we have one of the lowest population densities in the EU so the notion we are going to cover the country with houses is ridiculous.
    Yet we are going to need big numbers of immigrants to build the houses. The last time we went building crazy here most of the work was done by eastern europeans, young Irish people are not going building.

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    Mute James Brennan
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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:35 AM

    @The next small thing: so a two bed appartment cost more than an 3/4 bed house, doesnt that raise a red flag???? When the powers that be are feeding off the crumbs of developmers and vulture funds of coruse we will have one of the highest price per unit build

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    Mute Thomas Harrington
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    Nov 12th 2024, 7:29 AM

    @The next small thing: actually it’s gets cheaper once you over 5 floors

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    Nov 12th 2024, 9:15 AM
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    Nov 11th 2024, 4:34 PM

    Of course it will. That’s the neo-conservative plan!!! Extra cash for their buddies. The only properly costed and effective plan is the SF one. Fully costed by the Dept of finance and received with positivity. Vote SF

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    Mute The next small thing
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    Nov 11th 2024, 5:36 PM

    @Paul Whitehead: We’re still waiting on how SF are going to be able to build houses for less than 300k in Dublin. SF also want social housing built by council direct labour crews and we have seen what the public sector are like when delivering any capital projects in relaton to budgets and timeframes.

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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:40 AM

    @Paul Whitehead: SF are never an option. Bring back internment for those animals lol

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    Mute Paul M Doe
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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:41 AM

    @The next small thing: the only decent thing a shinner ever did was starve themselves lol

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    Mute Don't Forget
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    Nov 11th 2024, 5:07 PM

    Everyone has told it them that it would increase house prices for years. Their own advisors, any economists and anyone with a functioning brain.
    At what do we state the obvious which is that it’s their policy to increase house prices?

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    Mute hans vos
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    Nov 11th 2024, 6:14 PM

    Election pledges? They couldn’t keep their promises for umpteen years and still people believe them.

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    Nov 11th 2024, 4:22 PM

    This time last week I was saying that Trump would win bigly :)

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    Mute SV3tN8M4
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    Nov 11th 2024, 7:51 PM

    Fianna Fail & Fine Gael would view House prices going up as a good thing, as it continues their cost cartel with the corrupt Developers, REIT’s, Vulture Funds & Investment Funds in this failed State.

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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:48 AM

    @SV3tN8M4: middle Ireland very much enjoys house price increases :)

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    Mute Tommy
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    Nov 11th 2024, 5:41 PM

    2 cheeks of the 1 @rse is FG and FF and the Greedy Greens are the hairline crack.

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    Nov 11th 2024, 10:36 PM

    FG help to buy? Can we just call it what it actually is: a help the vultures scheme.

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    Mute Sheila McNulty
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    Nov 12th 2024, 5:35 PM

    @Anthony Curran: shows how wise u, Its only give to a family or couple buying a home no help to by goes to vulture funds wise up

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    Mute RIP
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    Nov 11th 2024, 8:21 PM

    Really, does anyone believe any of the pledges and promises coming up to the election, No.
    Simply, if you’re satisfied with the present government, vote for them. If not, vote for change

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    Mute Name
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    Nov 11th 2024, 6:02 PM

    FF has a long history of economic mismanagement, but to see FG also engaging full on in handouts and bad economic policy is concerning. There essentially is no fiscally responsible party left. Don’t give me Aontú, which is just catholic Sinn Fein. Makes the Greens almost look good, at least they’ve stuck money into infrastructure and sustainability instead of vote buying.

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    Nov 11th 2024, 11:17 PM

    @Name: cheers comrades

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    Mute Shane O Neill
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    Nov 11th 2024, 11:58 PM

    A senior lecturer, an economics professor and an estate agent. No surprises which one of the three says help-to-but is a good idea.

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    Mute Tim Brennan
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    Nov 11th 2024, 11:17 PM

    Breaking News Sinn Fein have great ideas on housing but no banks will fund anyone a mortgage to buy them.

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    Nov 11th 2024, 11:31 PM

    @Tim Brennan: I just watched a debate on rte 1 there just now, it’s obvious that FF/FG are the cause of the housing crisis, and they have no hope of rectifying the mess they made.

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    Mute Tim Brennan
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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:32 AM

    @Jimmy Kiely: brilliant however The provos have proposals the banks won’t guarantee to give mortgages to would be buyers yet in government in 6 counties and housing crisis as bad as here

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    Mute Colette Byrne
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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:41 AM

    @Tim Brennan: not true,northern Ireland includes couch surfers etc. In the Republic they don’t.

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    Mute Colette Byrne
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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:43 AM

    @Tim Brennan: did you not listen,banks will lend as they would be under government guarantee.

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    Mute Sheila McNulty
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    Nov 12th 2024, 5:25 PM

    @Colette Byrne: maybe go check it out

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    Mute D Farrell
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    Nov 11th 2024, 5:42 PM

    The help-buy-scheme allows couples to turn their paid income tax into a deposit for a first home. I think it’s a good scheme, and SF saying they’ll do way with it is wrong. Those working & paying tax get this welcome support.

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    Mute lesidees
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    Nov 11th 2024, 6:07 PM

    @D Farrell: the help to buy scheme pushes up house prices. It increases the number of potential buyers (demand) but does nothing to increase the supply of houses

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    Nov 11th 2024, 6:31 PM

    @lesidees: The help-to-buy scheme helps first-time buyers only, not investors or those already on the property ladder. SF should not do way with it.

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    Mute Sean Stevenson
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    Nov 11th 2024, 7:09 PM

    @D Farrell: Why is this hard for you to grasp? It does not help first time buyers. It would only help first time buyers if houses were affordable and there was no supply issues. Right now, all it does is add upwards pressure to an already strained housing market, with developers simply pricing in help to buy when putting a house to market. Adding cash liquidity without significantly increasing supply does nothing but push prices up.

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    Nov 11th 2024, 7:26 PM

    @Sean Stevenson: Help-to-buy scheme put first-time buyers in a better position compared to investors. Because SF wants to do away with it, perhaps they don’t like people working & paying income tax.

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    Mute Sean Stevenson
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    Nov 11th 2024, 7:36 PM

    @D Farrell: Man, are you drunk? Your comment makes absolutely zero sense. Full FFG supporter intelligence on display here. How does SF not like people paying income tax because they don’t want to continue an inflationary scheme that does nothing but drive house prices up?

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    Mute Paul M Doe
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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:47 AM

    Sk um fein hate working people

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    Mute Sheila McNulty
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    Nov 12th 2024, 5:30 PM

    @Sean Stevenson: it was helped a hell of a lot of first time buyers

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    Mute Colette Byrne
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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:38 AM

    So the panel on upfront tonight were correct, and fgff were lying. How can people fall for these tactics.

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    Mute Nigel Hayden
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    Nov 11th 2024, 11:27 PM

    Boomerang economics, what goes up must come down, when it does come down it’s the less well off who bear the brunt

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    Mute JP
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    Nov 11th 2024, 10:49 PM

    Everyone who can is at the building. The roads are choc a bloc with lorries carrying building materials. What more can be done ? There are simply no more workers available. I don’t support any party and I cannot see any one of them with the required magic wand.

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    Mute MN
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    Nov 11th 2024, 6:12 PM

    FFG are seeing this and thinking yeah great where’s the problem

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    Mute smatrix mantra
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    Nov 11th 2024, 4:50 PM

    Would not mind my houses being worth more.

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    Nov 11th 2024, 10:38 PM

    @smatrix mantra: I bet ye live in yer ma’s attic.

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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:50 AM

    @Anthony Curran: if your parents got divorced would they still remain cousins? lol

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    Mute North Phone Bowe
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    Nov 12th 2024, 4:43 AM

    @smatrix mantra: houseS??? Equity in houses only really helps investors creaming an inflated low supply market, exactly what FFG policy was formulated for. Majority of family homes will never be liquidated in parents life time, thereafter with the hope that the inheritance from home will give children a foothold to buy their own home. So equity in that scenario is nullified with high costs of that foothold.

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    Mute Bernard Connolly
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    Nov 11th 2024, 5:28 PM

    Yet most people will vote FFG… the two will

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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:47 AM

    @Bernard Connolly: and rightfully so :)

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    Nov 12th 2024, 1:53 AM

    Would anyone think that a state owned factory that would turn out modular houses that could be assembled in very short time would be a good idea. A rated and built in a few months surely has to be better than block built houses that take a year or more to build. Build them on state owned land and try and sort out the planning and objections

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    Mute Sheila McNulty
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    Nov 12th 2024, 5:27 PM

    @Pat Clancy: where is the state owned Factory ?

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    Nov 12th 2024, 12:51 AM

    Fantastic work as always from the mighty FG :)

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    Nov 12th 2024, 10:28 AM

    140000 homeless people excluding teh people that live with their parents FF hopeless party

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    Mute Colm Flaherty
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    Nov 12th 2024, 7:26 AM

    I’d love if you asked the experts which party’s policies have the desired effect, if any.

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