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THE ELECTORATE OF the United States has voted in tens of millions to return former President Donald Trump to the White House. This election was always going to be close but the realisation that their fellow citizens, their neighbours, friends and even family, have voted for a convicted felon who ran a campaign on division is a body blow for supporters of Kamala Harris. They are despondent, depressed and in disbelief.
The day before the election, there was a quiet, hopeful expectation that America was on the verge of making history, electing the first woman to the office of president.
Harris did not run on breaking the glass ceiling like Clinton did in 2016, but a woman in the Oval Office resonated with many of the voters I spoke to on the ground in Illinois and Indiana regardless. That hope has given way to a question; is it that any man is preferable to a woman? How deep-seated is misogyny in America?
There is no shortage of emotionally charged videos of women voting for Kamala Harris, but it wasn’t just about the symbolism of a woman holding the top job; it was the importance of protecting women’s rights.
Abortion rights were on the ballot in several states at the same time passing in Arizona, Montana, Nevada, Missouri, Colorado, New York and Maryland. In Nebraska a vote to further ratify the state’s 12-week abortion ban passed, in Florida efforts to amend abortion law are set to fail despite a projection of 57% in favour, 60 percent is required to pass.
Many women are scared, they know that women are at risk of being disproportionately impacted by a second Trump term with expectations that Republicans will bring forward a national abortion ban and other Project 25 – a far-right blueprint for deconstructing long-established norms, rights and governance in the US – aspirations including bans on contraception and access to IVF treatment. Instead of waking up to the first woman president, women face a potential erasure of their rights that will literally put their lives in danger.
Trump ran on ideology – we know how identity politics can resonate with an electorate that feels disconnected from the political system, Brexit being a prime example. His campaign benefited from inflation; the cost of goods and services are higher than they were four years ago – explaining that this is due in large part to global factors is not going to reach a disenfranchised voter.
The success of populism as a political vehicle is in its simplicity; all of your ills and problems can conveniently be attributed to one person or community. There is a slide towards populism in America today, and some analysts believe the environment is now ripe for dictatorship. The new president-elect has repeatedly heaped praise on authoritarian leaders, calling President Xi a “brilliant man”, Russia’s Vladimir Putin “very smart”, North Korea’s Kim Jong Un a “tough, smart guy”, and Hungary’s Viktor Orban “one of the strongest leaders anywhere in the world”.
This was another election that pitted American against American, the impact of which will continue to be felt within communities and families. People know the US is becoming more polarised – they feel that polarisation, but don’t know how to stop it.
Accepting that the Democrats have lost and that millions of voters sat out of this race will take a long time to sink in. An autopsy of what went wrong has already begun, but there isn’t only one smoking gun. There will be some who will seek to pin blame on those who voted for the 3rd party candidate in protest over Israel’s war in Gaza, but Jill Stein’s vote would not have changed the outcome.
At play here was the economy, immigration, ideology, misinformation and disinformation online, social media, Biden’s late drop-out which limited Harris’ campaign and Harris’ inability to distance herself from Biden’s administration, as well as sexism and racism.
Trump will take office with a Republican majority in the Senate, a conservative Supreme Court, and as we await results, an outside chance of a Republican House. He will have almost unchecked power, and fear is palpable among those who do not support him that he will action on some of his most alarming campaign pledges, including mass deportation and threats to prosecute and imprison political opponents.
This isn’t going to be the same as 2016; more moderate voices have long left the Trump camp and in their place, the American people will have shapeshifter JD Vance as vice-president and a cabinet that includes conspiracy theorist Robert F Kennedy Jr and the ego-driven, unpredictable billionaire, Elon Musk.
The landscape of America is shifting, and its seismic impact won’t only be felt in the United States but globally.
Emma DeSouza is a writer and campaigner. She is in Chicago for the US election results.
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Politicians are getting down to business of scoping a pilot study to consider the establishment of an informal subcommittee to consider the validity of ordering a second report on the validity of establishing a formal committee which might then debate the merits of recommending that a report be written up to forward the position that a referendum might be worthy of consideration by the government.
In 2453.
@Seán J. Troy: Sean you had comment waiting for a while ? :-)
@Charles Murr: Nope. Tragically, this is just how politics works.
@Seán J. Troy: couldn’t have said it better myself other than the government is going to f this up!
There’s no way I’m voting to repeal the 8th until I know EXACTLY what the government intend to replace it with.
@aoife✨: how about trusting a woman?
@Deborah Behan: there’s a lot of irresponsible women out there… Also, this isn’t just a ‘woman’s issue’.
@Fred: Irresponsible how? Having sex without a husband?
@Fred: so because some women are “irresponsible” then all women should be punished eh?
Lots of bad men out in the world and statiscially men commit more crimes then women, I guess I should be punished for what they do too……
The reality is women need to be given control over their own bodies, the situation right now hurts women and puts their lives at risk.
Let’s just vote.
@RG Law: no they need another topic if discussion to distract the house crisis and health service issues and Garda issues etc
@RG Law: On what? Unless the options that pressure groups really want are before the people on the ballot paper well then its a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater , get what option you want on the ballot paper.
They should just give these Lunatics their referendum, they will lose, there are plenty of people in Ireland both Male and Female who are against this Murder on demand
@Paul Byrne: The only lunatic on this thread is YOU ..Abortion is not murder,pet.It’s a medical procedure that is legally available to Irish women..
@The Dunes Of Inchy: im not your pet missus, and i want a referendum on bringing back the Death Penalty for people who want to kill unborn babies
@Paul Byrne: it’s not possible for an “unborn baby” to get a ‘death penalty’..you must do better at your trolling ..,
@The Dunes Of Inchy: Paul’s on his period.
@DaisyChainsaw: Yeah its running out me nose, how did you know that? You must be Nostrildamus
@The Dunes Of Inchy: no it’s not, otherwise there wouldn’t be such a vacuum of doctors willing to carry it out. It’s a barbaric and violent act mostly carried out for convenience in the name of choice. The only people it empowers are those who gain financially from it. It hurts women and let’s society off the hook. Your heart was beating at 6 weeks, you’d fingernails at 12 weeks. Think about that.
@Paul Byrne: Looks like the crazies and your follower of brigading bots are up bright and early. 55 thumbs in less than an hour at 8am. Sad state of affairs.
@James O’Shea: well i dont want to be on the bad side of Leo ya know i have to get up early
@RG Law: How is taking a few pills a’ barbaric and violent act’ ? Whatever reason a woman decides not to carry on with an unplanned/planned pregnancy,she never will have to give her reason/s to the likes of you..It hurts women not being able to access it…My heart was indeed beating at 6 weeks,I was being breastfed by mother at that stage…I had fingernails since I was born,i used to cut my little faceen with them…I’ve thought about what you have said ,& it’s pure emotional hogwash that you have been using..who’d thunk it eh :
@RG Law: Do you think miscarriages are “barbaric and violent”? That’s what an abortion is, a chemically induced miscarriage.
@Paul Byrne: yes, I’m assuming your gender, but I’d guess you will never be affected by this? Why do you feel that you have the right to control other people’s bodies?
@James O’Shea: Yep definitely something fishy there, although you’d expect nothing less.
@Seth Cheffetz: i dont want tocontrol anybody, i am human, and anybody who has any shred of Humanity knows that killing an unborn Babie is the most disgusting thing on the Planet, and before you get into Unborns do not feel anything i watched an abortion and i could clearly see the Baby fighthing the needle which was about to kill it, and that was just one way that its done
@Paul Byrne: I am anti abortion but pro choice, but what a stupid comment from you sir. I wonder would you be so vocal if one of your family members had or indeed wanted to go through the current ordeal of travelling to the UK for an abortion. I would like to think that if my daughter was in that situation she would tell me and let me help her in whatever way i could. Clearly your narrow mindedness means your family would keep you in the dark. Sad really and your loss! But the likes if you will be dead soon, then no one will care about your silly opinions.
@Toon Army: indeed, must be the strong winds keeping them awake in the Bible Belt and southern states of the USA.
@Coco86: As i far as i know there is Abortions carried out in Irish Hospitals
In certain cases but not on demand
@The Dunes Of Inchy: the heart of a foetus is beating at 6 weeks gestation, with arms legs face and fingernails at 12 weeks gestation. It’s human and alive long before it’s born. And you sanction it’s death in the name if choice. It’s a dehumanising act. And for atheists like me even more horrifying when you know there’s no after life, this is it, your one chance at life and as a species we allow the killing of unborn human beings in the name of choice. No thanks, you do me no favours.
@Coco86: You’re not anti abortion.
You’re fooling yourself.
@Paul Byrne: every year, 20-30 terminations take place every year in Irish hospitals to protect women.
@RG Law: i know this, these Witches of Eastwick think because i am a man that they can pull the wool over my eyes but im prepared for these B#tches
@RG Law: And another 3000 Irish abortions are outsourced by virtue of the 13th amendment. Why don’t so called “prolife” campaign to repeal that?
@Paul Byrne: You watch abortions? That’s some kinky shït right there!!
@RG Law: Simple really, I don’t agree with it but I’d never force my views upon others who clearly have a very difficult decision to make. It’s all well and good to shout and roar but when the shoe is on the other foot how would you react? Im assuming you have a close family, so what if your daughter, niece etc didn’t share your views on abortion and decided to travel to the UK, would you rather support them or bash them? I know I’d rather support all those close to me in that situation regardless of my personal opinion. Because the end result by not doing so is a family member / friend in pain. You are the one fooling yourself
@Paul Byrne: True, but you say on demand like its an easy decision to make. Its not. On a side note, what would you do if there was a referendum and it passed?
@DaisyChainsaw: you like Abortions do ya, thats some sick s#it rigjt there, if i heard condone this Murder of babies i would forget you where a Woman and treat you like a man
@Coco86: it wont so thats a stupid question
@Paul Byrne: I like abortions the same way I like amputations or any medical procedure for that matter. And how would you “treat me like a man”?
@DaisyChainsaw: the way any butch gets treated
@Paul Byrne: quite the bully aren’t you? Do you threaten and bully every woman that does not agree with you?
@Paul Byrne: Great comeback glad to see you can appreciate a view separate to your own
@DaisyChainsaw:
If you induced a heart attack in someone, that would be cruel and barbaric. When it happens spontaneously it is a sad and natural event.
@TheoWolfe: The woman has been told by the medical professionals beforehand, on the procedure that is going to be carried out..She will also be told the reasons to ‘why’ they stop the foetus’s heart…What IS ‘cruel and barbaric’ is forcing that woman to go through with that pregnancy, knowing that the foetus is dying inside of her,or giving birth, knowing that it is missing half it’s skull..Find a new hobby for yourself Theodore :)
@RG Law: The “heart” of an “EMBRYO” is beating at six weeks ,so what?
“It’s human and alive before it’s born” Who says that it isn’t human ? I don’t care if you’re an atheist and are ‘horrified’ by a woman ending her unwanted pregnancy..My advice to you would be not to have one..
@Coco86: you can’t say you don’t agree with it and off you go and do it … you’re excusing all sorts of acts we find wrong, rape, assault. You are anti abortion because? It’s wrong to kill human life?
Be honest with yourself and others, instead of hiding behind “choice”.
@The Dunes Of Inchy: it’s a human being. In countries where it’s accepted as a norm the argument is being made for post birth abortion. What not when you place no value on this human life …
http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/03/01/medethics-2011-100411
@The Dunes Of Inchy:
You are citing a hard case, but you know that is not what is being sought. What is being sought is the freedom to destroy the human being at the convenience of the woman for any reason, and some would argue, up until birth.
You are just being dishonest to pretend otherwise.
@RG Law : an embryo is not a “human being”, pet..If it was,the “pro life” movement would be carrying out fundraisers every week,& lobbying our government,so that they can carry out research into the huge loss of human “lives” that never make it to utero :) They would even be asking them to divert money that goes into cancer research..But even they know that an embryo is not a ‘human being’ ..And as for your silly link.Boring.
@TheoWolfe: As I just said To RG,an embryo is NOT a ‘human being’ ..And no woman goes looking for an abortion right up to birth..Can you put up examples of where doctors in hospitals are doing this ? Thanks.
@The Dunes Of Inchy:
Sorry Rosie, you need to go back to Biology 101. It may be a legitimate stand to support abortion but it is not legitimate to deny biological facts and treating the truth as a foreign country.
@TheoWolfe: You need to wake up pet..
@The Dunes Of Inchy:
Just keep denying facts Rosie.
@The Dunes Of Inchy: interesting how pro abortionists are so clear about the legitimacy of the “medical procedure” as they see it yet they fight like hell to allow any images or video of an abortion to be part of the debate. Interesting to see if that will change this time around but somehow I doubt it. The visual impact would defeat any repeal effort.
@kevin windle: “pro abortionists” ? The majority of people in Ireland are in favour of women procuring abortions for cases of FFA/RAPE/INCEST,so are they “pro abortionists” too :) Sure, if you antis want to put up a video of a late term abortion,then go right ahead..Most decent Irish folks cannot stand the yob defence tactics :) And anyway,we’ll just put up the facts regards those procedures..like showing photos of hugely deformed foetus’ :)
@TheoWolfe: The reason that the “pro life” movement don’t do any fundraising into the loss of those “human beings” that never make it to utero,is because they know that they would be scoffed at for thinking that they’re “human beings” like you or me :) Poor pet and your ‘facts’ :)
Nice try,but no cigar, Theodore :)
@The Dunes Of Inchy:
Just keep denying biological fact Rosie, it just hurts your cause.
@RG Law: So what your saying is a person cant be anti abortion but pro choice? Your single brain cell must be hurting
@Coco86:
Can you be anti- slavery but pro-slave ownership?
@TheoWolfe: Did slaves have a choice?
@Coco86: All im saying is that while i personally dont agree with abortion i believe in the couples choice to make a decision thats right for them. They will have to live with that choice and dont need to be labelled as murderers. And again, as i said earlier, id rather support a loved one who made that choice as opposed to not, because they are not murderers!
@The Dunes Of Inchy: I’m just saying that decisions should be made based on the full facts and not a sanitised debate which is what has been happening for the last 20 years
@kevin windle: as I’ve already said to you,most Irish people want women to be able to have the choice of ending a pregnancy, due to them getting a diagnosis of a FFA..Look Kevs,you can show people all you like about that procedure but most people will take the side of the human being.They don’t want to see the woman who is already suffering physically and mentally,not to be put through anymore suffering..It’s people like you,that want that to continue..And if you want people to see how the majority of abortions are carried out in the 1st trimester,then they will be so bored..
Theodore ; nothing hurts my ’cause’ when I’m saying that an embryo is not a human being..you cannot prove that it is…and when 65% of those “human beings” never make it to utero and most human beings not caring that they don’t..
@The Dunes Of Inchy:
Keep playing the ostrich.
[All] organisms, however large and complex they might be as full grown, begin life as a single cell. This is true for the human being, for instance, who begins life as a fertilized ovum.”
Dr. Morris Krieger “The Human Reproductive System” p 88 (1969) Sterling Pub. Co
@TheoWolfe: Just reading through the comments and it looks like that you’re now saying that a fertilized egg is a ‘human being’ .Have you ever thought of getting some therapy ?
This is about basic women’s rights. Time to get out of the dark ages and vote now. Also, having the vote in the summer when many young people, the future of our country, are out of the country is unacceptable. This just plays into the hands of the old guard.
@Toon Army: actually its about human rights. Not just for wonen you know??? Human rights for ALL. SAVE THE EIGHTH!!
@Ismise Máire: The Human Rights Commissioner on the Council of Europe,he made it very clear to the Irish government when he said that, “international human rights standards do not protect the life of ‘unborn children.’ They protect women.” Imagine that?
@The Dunes Of Inchy: probably Childless this Commisioner and by that i mean was too miserable to have any or adopt any like most European Leaders or Angela Merkel types
@Toon Army: actually it’s a human rights issue, the right to live the most basic and human right.
@RG Law: human “means relating to or concerning people”(Collins). Fully agree on right to live as a human right.
@The Dunes Of Inchy:
Maybe not, but is such an oversight justification for the mass killing of human life?
U.N. Declaration of the Rights of the Child (1959).
Preamble reads: Whereas the child, by reason of his physical and mental immaturity, needs special safeguards and care, including appropriate legal protection, before as well as after birth.
So it could be argued that the unborn is protected under the UN Charter, if that document is even worth the paper it is written on.
@TheoWolfe:
UN Declaration of Human Rights…not Charter.
@TheoWolfe: You’d want to read that charter again lad .”All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights” In other words,bodily autonomy Poor pet
oops..and that is Article 1 on the UN Declaration of Human Rights :)
@The Dunes Of Inchy:
Because you missed it first time Rosie.
N. Declaration of the Rights of the Child (1959).
Preamble reads: Whereas the child, by reason of his physical and mental immaturity, needs special safeguards and care, including appropriate legal protection, before as well as after birth.
@TheoWolfe: Article 1 clearly states that every ‘human being’ is entitled to their bodily autonomy :) And that also brings me back to what the HUMAN RIGHTS commissioner said ; “The thing is, international human rights standards do not protect the life of unborn children. They protect women.” Ooh,that must hurt you Theodore,who is the “protector” of all embryos …
SKY should do Abortions, because if they did, it would be on demand
@Paul Byrne: Did you think up of that one all by yourself ? So cute if you did.
@The Dunes Of Inchy: yeah and i own it, im going to be sticking it on T-shirys and selling it to Pro-lifers
@Paul Byrne: I’ll have my own T-Shirt which will have this slogan on it ;” “Pro-Life” people want to keep the 13th “
@Paul Byrne: My mistake it was early morning
My T-shirts will have on them
SKY should show Abortions because if they did Abortion would Not be On Demand
Going on sale soon
@Paul Byrne: That’s rather niche of you! Over 90% are women taking pills and bleeding for a while so it might not hit your kink.
I’m uncomfortable with many aspects of abortion but I will vote to allow women to make their own decisions.
@Dazz: Cheers. That’s all we want.
Have to say the pro life lobby will have been heartened by Leo’s support in his interview with the New York Times at the weekend.
@Emmet Dillane: i did not know this, leo deserves gratitude for his remarks on this issue and him being a Doctor would know what and what not an Unborn Baby feels inside the Womb
@Paul Byrne:
‘Outlining his views, he said he does not agree that a “baby in the womb, the fetus, whatever term you want to use, should have no rights at all”. He said the rights should not be equal to those of the mother, in his view, but added he disagrees with those that argue that human rights should only begin after a child is born.
“I don’t agree with that,” he said’
Posted at 6.05am and 7 hours later there’s minimal comments by abortion article standards. The usual antis are too busy huffing and puffing over Hook getting Cucked to care about the preborn children today!!
@DaisyChainsaw: you have some weird fascination with him. I’m pro choice but I think there has been a complete overreaction by liberal pro censorship leftists like yourself.
@Theunpopularpopulist: I don’t want him censored. I would like to see him have the courage of his convictions rather than fold like a cheap suit to save his job. But he’s too much of a coward for that. He neutered himself with his embarrassing climbdown.
I HATE THAT WORD…….SCOPING!!
@sean o’dhubhghaill: The verb ‘scoping out’ an abortion referendum presents semantic problems I’ll agree. Most of us understand the noun ‘scope’ as something pertaining to range and ability. The doctor’s stethoscope enables a doctor like Leo to hear a heartbeat. The telescope enables some wary politicians to see approaching distant voter-asteroids. Other words like stroboscope, stereoscope, kinetoscope – I’d guess – enhance our auditory, colour and visual range of detection. And gastroscope seems like something for poking inside the digestive system to see what is going on there – I wouldn’t be tempted to visualise or nasalize that. When it comes to an eventual Dail and Seanad debate on the 8th Amendment many backbenchers will resort to intriguing verboscopic devices, in the chamber and in their constituency clinics.
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