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Green Party senator Pauline O'Reilly and party leader Roderic O'Gorman RollingNews.ie

The Greens want to pilot 'forest schools' to foster a respect for nature - how would they work?

The party wants to introduce a pilot model where most of the school day every week is spent outdoors, “rain, wind or shine.”

WELCOME TO POLICY Matters, a series from The Journal that takes a deep dive into the ideas and solutions proposed by Ireland’s politicians on some of the biggest issues of the day.

As part of the series, The Journal sits down with different spokespeople from across Ireland’s political parties to take a deeper look at what they believe needs to be done across areas like housing, health, the environment and childcare.

Over the course of the 2024 general election, we will be taking a special look at some of the proposals from different political candidates that might otherwise slip under the radar.

As part of that, we caught up with Green Party senator and general election candidate Pauline O’Reilly to talk about forest schools.

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AS PART OF their general election manifesto, the Green Party has included a number of proposals around ‘affordable, green schooling’.

Included among these is a pledge to oversee a pilot ‘forest school’, which the document describes as “a model of schooling for young children which has proven to be successful in Scandinavia.”

The Journal caught up with Green Party senator and candidate for Galway West Pauline O’Reilly to learn more about her party’s plans.

O’Reilly explained it like this: Forest schooling is essentially about outdoor education. Children will still do academic subjects but in a “different” setting where they can explore the outdoor environment.

And no, it’s not just for a couple of hours a day or a week, the Green Party wants to introduce a pilot model where most of the school day every week is spent outdoors, “rain, wind or shine.”

“There’ll be shelters. So it’s not as if you’re literally standing in the rain all of the time. You’re wrapped up every day to do that, to be outdoors,” O’Reilly said.

“If there was a willingness to go beyond the day a week, which we would hope that there would be, then you would have academic subjects outside. But currently, the way it operates is that it is very much hands-on in nature, outdoors, playing, going for a walk, jumping in puddles, you know?

“And we’re talking about primary school here. So it’s really before there’s serious exams coming up.”

O’Reilly explained that it is all about building a love and respect for the natural world. 

“The reason for it, from our point of view, is that you can’t protect what you don’t know.

“And it’s the things that you love that you are going to respect.”

The Green Party envision the pilot operating via the Department of Education on the basis of existing primary schools voluntarily putting themselves forward to take part.

“I don’t think it’s probably feasible to have large schools turning into forest schools. But certainly, if there are smaller schools that want to become part of the pilot, I think that that would be what we’re looking at,” O’Reilly said.

“It might sound a bit out there, but actually it works very well. They do it in the UK aswell, and kids love being outdoors.” 

O’Reilly made the point that when she was growing up, children spent much more time outdoors because there was no social media. 

“We weren’t online as much as our kids are. It’s really about trying to foster that within the school hours, because there is a lot less outdoor time by kids,” she said, adding that it also has the benefit of being another form of physical activity for children.

In terms of being prepared for the temperamental Irish weather, O’Reilly said funding would have to be put in place to make sure children have the appropriate outerwear like coats and shoes to participate, no matter what the weather on any given day.

“It’s still a relatively small amount of money. We’re talking about a pilot,” O’Reilly said.

And no, the concept isn’t literally confined to forests. Schools in urban areas may opt to take part but in green areas like parks – basically anywhere children can have the opportunity to “commune with nature”.

When it was put to O’Reilly that this concept might be a hard sell for many parents in Ireland, she countered that a lot of parents have already embraced the idea of outdoor preschools and love them.

“The overall premise here is that you protect what you love, and fewer and fewer of us, including adults, are spending time in nature.

“We know that the natural world is under threat, but we also know it’s better for us, our mental health and our physical health, to be surrounded by the environment.”

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    Sep 21st 2016, 8:54 PM

    Once again FG caught lying through their teeth..any comment Leo???????

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:09 PM

    He said it was to the best of his knowledge that is NOT making a solid claim, he is saying he could be wrong what’s the big deal????

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:17 PM

    @Declan McDermott: you would have thought he would know something like this before he goes on the national airwaves and makes a t#t of himself.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:43 PM

    But he put it out as truth Declan. Look at our newspapers almost on a daily basis put their view out as truth. All part of the game.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:51 PM

    Factcheck. Government ministers knowledge is not not knowing anything, when they should.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 11:01 PM

    @Declan McDermott: What’s wrong is that Leo is was lying. Perhaps not a big deal in FG, eh?

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    Sep 22nd 2016, 6:42 AM

    Declan “to the best of my knowledge” and “as far as I know” are Leo’s stock in trade. He is a prize bullshit merchant who always covers his arse.

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    Sep 22nd 2016, 1:23 PM

    @ Declan..the big deal is that FG are constantly covering their asses by spinning out lies and untruths. Do you not think it might have been worth Leo’s time to check that fact out?

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:07 PM

    Excuse my language but these guys boil my blood.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:15 PM

    @Joe Butler:

    Tone it the funk down, Joe.

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    Mute Joe Butler
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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:24 PM

    Naa

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:28 PM

    Maa lol

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:27 PM

    Claim: A government minister has never gone before the PAC
    Verdict: Leo is talking Bollix.

    Fixed that for you Journal :-)

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    Sep 21st 2016, 11:14 PM

    Another Fact (only in Ireland): in every other Westminster democracy in the world EVERY minister appears before the PAC EVERY year as part of the budget process.

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    Sep 22nd 2016, 7:17 AM

    Except they do appear before the committees dealing with their departmental area.

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    Sep 22nd 2016, 9:51 AM

    ah yes the Irish solution, water down the Westminster system with a bast*rdised committee system: the departmental committee, the committee you have when have when you’re not having a committee

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    Sep 21st 2016, 8:55 PM

    Grandad pampers and a couple carers to clean him up for the day make sure the aul eye isnt wondering he hasnt been able to look at anyone straight in eye since the his banking bonds matured he will play a blinder, a man of his withered words, doesnt give a donkeys ball bag

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:20 PM

    You’d have thought leo would know his facts or check stuff before he opens his mouth. Is that too much to ask considering noonan and the PAC was all talk last week

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:05 PM

    Leo spoofing, well I never!

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    Sep 21st 2016, 8:44 PM

    Is this the face that launched a thousand ships?

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    Sep 21st 2016, 8:57 PM

     Sweet Michael , make me immortal with a kiss….

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    Sep 21st 2016, 8:54 PM

    Strange for Leo to Fib …

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:03 PM

    AND Leo has been doing so much arse licking he talks shite.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:01 PM

    So sick of these old farts dictating to the majority of younger people and robbing us blind while they do it. Corrupt to the core and rotten out, just go already. No one believes anything you say anymore, just go away.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 10:18 PM

    Nothing new about Leo talking out his arse

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    Sep 22nd 2016, 9:05 AM

    Leo would talk about anything except his own department to get into the news. FG deserve him, he is the Joan Briton of the FG party.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 8:56 PM

    Just let him f**kin retire. He will only ever be answerable posthumously anyway.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:30 PM

    To be honest I doubt of this guy is even gay.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:35 PM

    Who’d have him ?.. Luckily he’s so in love with himself he’ll never be lonely.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 8:58 PM

    About time too.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 8:55 PM

    Good one

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    Sep 21st 2016, 10:23 PM

    Leo knows very little about anything,TRUE.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:49 PM

    Leo meant a Minister as important as Master Michael no doubt.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 10:41 PM

    They can ask him about Irelands broken tax system while he’s up there too!

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    Sep 21st 2016, 10:29 PM

    Politics aside I’m no fan of Michael Noonan, but by God the Man needs to look after His health as He does not look well.

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    Sep 21st 2016, 9:07 PM

    There’s a very good reason why so few Ministers appear. The PAC is a body largely designed to hold accounting officers in Govt Departments and related bodies to account for spending. These people are mainly secretary generals or their equivalent as well as those officials who took major spending decisions. In other words not politicians. Nothing magical about this.

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    Sep 22nd 2016, 4:51 AM

    A ideal candidate for a Fg leader

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    Sep 22nd 2016, 11:29 AM

    Punjab Leo talking crap AGAIN

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