“Most successful country in the history of the world”.. That has to be the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard, you must be an American. Thick as a branch.

As if to prove my point …

‘Most recent superpower’ yes, buts thats all.

There is a massive divide in the US when it comes to education. The haves get great educations, the have nots get extremely poor education.

I love when middle class Irish people look at poor uneducated Americans and judge the whole country by it. In all honesty, if these types of polls were conducted in Ireland, what percentage of people do you think wouldn’t, for example even know what DNA is? From the mass-going FF voting morons to the slack-jawed troglodytes wandering around our cities, I’m guessing it would be quite high.

“I love when middle class Irish people look at poor uneducated Americans and judge the whole country by it”

They’re not doing that at all. They’re judging the percentage of Americans included in the survey and laughing at the whole country for having a high percentage of idiots.

“what percentage of people do you think wouldn’t, for example even know what DNA is” you don’t need that much of an education to have a basic understanding of what DNA is. But I bet you anything that a higher percentage of Irish people know where Canada is than US citizens. =D

What percentage of Irish citizens would be able to point out Norway on a map?

“What percentage of Irish citizens would be able to point out Norway on a map?”

If you think Irish people not able to identify a tiny obscure country surrounding by dozens of other tiny obscure countries is in some way equivalent to US citizens not being unable to identify the gigantic country they share a border with, then your education system is in more trouble than I ever imagined.

Jimbo, from your description of Norway I’m guessing you know absolutely nothing whatsoever about it. You’re wrong on all counts, so do have a look at a map.

On what counts Joseph? Norway is in Europe. There are a great many small countries in Europe.

In what way is an Irishman not knowing where Norway is in any way equivalent to an American not being able to find the enormous country they share a border with?

Do you think Norway is the size of Canada? Do you think Ireland shares a border with Norway? Do you think Norway is an Island or continent without any bordering countries?

I saw an article in National Geographic which claimed that 92% of 18-24 year olds in the USA pointed out Canada on a map. So I’m not sure where the claim comes from that they can’t, since every child in their compulsory primary education system undoubtedly learns where it is quite early. Norway is a neighbour of ours to the north, and is about as significant from our point of view as Canada is from a US point of view. And I’d say half the population don’t know where it is.

Jimbo, is Norway a small country ? No. Is Norway surrounded by dozens of small countries ? No.
The rest of your last post is irrelevant as a response to mine.
Glad to hear you’re getting out.

LMAO you think Norway is a big country? Norway can fit inside Canada nearly 26 times.

Unless you count Russia as part of Europe, every country in Europe is small. All of them. They are tiny. There is a cattle station in Australia the size of belgium FFS

Don’t recall saying Norway was a big country and the relevance of the cattle station/Belgium comparison is what, precisely ? Please also tell me which small countries surround Norway.

Norway is a teeny weeny insignificant country. Its population is smaller than that of Toronto. It’s in Europe. All nearby countries are small in terms of the area they occupy. All of them. Sweden, denmark, Austria… it doesn’t matter which countries you name… germany, italy, uk, ireland… they are all small. Name one european country that is not small.

Norway also happens to have a teeny weeny population. It is totally insignificant. I don’t know what slartybartfast was thinking when he wasted his time building those ugly fjords.

Well over the course of 8 years every cell in the human body replenishes. Meaning you are not a single atom similar to a you 8 years ago or a you 8 years from now.

Teleporter does the same thing just faster.

Correct me if I’m wrong, because I’m not a physicist and only did some light reading some time ago, but that was essentially replicating the characteristics of one atom and transmitting that data to another atom which took on the characteristics, making a clone? Whereas the photon can actually be moved from one place to another? There was a bug fuss around the photon teleportation around a year ago.

Nope. Both experiments used quantum entanglement. Both experiments teleported the subject material in the same sense of the word.

I think you misunderstand quantum entanglement. Nothing with a physical mass has ever been moved from one location to another without moving through the intervening space. In the case of the atom you linked, the quantum state of one atom was transferred to another atom changing out to be identical to the first one. Both atoms stayed in their location. The leading scientists in these experiments are vehement we will never see mass teleportation.

You don’t have to move the physical mass. They simply teleport the properties of the atom to another atom.

“Both atoms stayed in their location”

Not according to the article Jude.

“The act of teleporting always destroys the original — not entirely unlike the transporters of the ”Star Trek” television shows and movies.”

Both atoms did not stay in their location, the original was destroyed after its properties were teleported to another atom.

It’s also reported in the journal IEEE spectrum, which provides a little more detail:
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1046690

Read the article you linked. All of it. The reference to the original being destroyed was a reference to the classic idea of teleportation in Sci-fi. The quantum state of one atom was transferred to another. No mass moved. Both atoms still intact. It’s exciting because it means we could potentially transfer data via Binary quantum states. But again, no mass was actually teleported. Simply the “data” of one atom was transferred to another.

Jude, does that apply to photon teleportation too? The context in which I gained my very limited knowledge was researching quantum cryptography. The photon is they key and is transported to the recipient to decrypt data. As the photon can only exist in one place in space at any time, and because it’s transported rather than transmitted it cannot be intercepted, it is unbreakable encryption. Or, likely that my understanding is completely flawed.

I have read all of it, several times at this stage.

“The reference to the original being destroyed was a reference to the classic idea of teleportation in Sci-fi”

No it Isn’t. The only reference to sci-fi is where the author is explicitly stating that the definition in real physics is “not unlike not entirely unlike the transporters of the Star Trek”.

Read it again…

“In physics, teleportation means creating a replica of an object, or at least some aspect of it, at some distance from the original. The act of teleporting always destroys the original — not entirely unlike the transporters of the ”Star Trek” television shows and movies — so it is impossible produce multiple copies.”

“No mass moved”

Why do you keep saying that? I just finished telling you that it isn’t necessary to move mass to teleport an atom. It’s the properties of the atom that are teleported.

The key to understanding what they mean by destroyed is partly down to semantics. They don’t physically destroy the atom, but they destroy its state when it is observed.

“Then the scientists measured the energy states of A and B, essentially opening the boxes to see whether each contained a 1 or a zero”

That’s my understanding. I’m not a physicist, but I know the basics and am well aware of the confusion that can arise from the semantics used by quantum physicists.

@Barry

This is the abstract from a 1997 experiment in the journal nature.

Quantum teleportation — the transmission and reconstruction over arbitrary distances of the state of a quantum system — is demonstrated experimentally. During teleportation, an initial photon which carries the polarization that is to be transferred and one of a pair of entangled photons are subjected to a measurement such that the second photon of the entangled pair acquires the polarization of the initial photon. This latter photon can be arbitrarily far away from the initial one. Quantum teleportation will be a critical ingredient for quantum computation networks.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v390/n6660/abs/390575a0.html

When quantum physicists use the word “destroy” they don’t mean they destroyed the physical matter or particle. They mean they destroyed the state. In the case of photons it’s the state of the photon’s polarisation.

Do excuse me, I did mean photon! But yes, as pointed out above, an atom with its electrons were also teleported.

I am on about the people that issue money to likes of these gob shites to explore the the possibility of teleporting when they could be authorizing money to something worthwhile.. I am not talking about the General Public get off your high horse you do gooder!!!

Paul, I think you should volunteer for the first human teleportation

Haha: “There education”. Where education?

Why when I can just get a plane, car, motorbike, cycle, run or walk and it won’t cost billions of tax payers money.. Plus by your name buckwheat Macmillan you have an stupid American name you could volunteer yourself!!!

Paul. It’s not your taxdollars so just quit being such a sanctimonious begrudger

It’s MacMillan III to you Paul, and I went to Yale.

You mentioned you went to Yale la-di-bleed in da-di… It just goes to show you mentioned Yale so Americans are up there own arse!!

..but definitely not stupid. I hope you’re enjoying using the internet considering it’s development was funded by the US government.

Everybody benefits from the internet true??? Who the jaysus is going to benefit from teleportation???

Paul, it’s just as well European Physicists like Faraday, Maxwell, Lodge, Hertz and Tesla didn’t share your “who will benefit” from attitude, otherwise we would be living similar lives to people in the 1800′s.

Will you benefit from teleportation??? Answer no…. So what’s the point??

And then you have to get some gilly to be the 1st muppet to try and get teleported.. More than likely it will be some American who was abducted by aliens yrs ago and will want to go back to them because the experience has changed his/her life…

The money doesn’t actually disappear, you know? It gets paid to researchers, scientists, technicians, engineers, manufacturers, who then pay tax, spend money and occasionally create worthwhile things.

Fair enough Paul. I’m not going to get into a discussion with someone that is obviously trying to wind people up. Adios.