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American tourists enjoying St Patrick's celebrations in Dublin last weekend. Rollingnews.ie

Two Dublin councils form coalition in favour of tourist tax - and urge others to come on board

The councils want the power to tax tourist stays, as many other cities do worldwide.

TWO DUBLIN LOCAL authorities have come together to push for national legislation to enable councils to levy taxes on overnight stays by tourists.

Fingal County Council has written to all councils nationwide calling for the introduction of enabling legislation for locally collected “transient visitor tax” on overnights in hotels, short-term rentals such as Airbnbs, and other accommodation.

Opponents of such a measure have argued it would hamper Dublin’s competitiveness by increasing the cost of visiting what is already an expensive city.

However, Dublin City Council is on board with the idea of tourism tax, and has requested cooperation on the matter from Dublin’s other two councils, South Dublin and Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown.

It’s understood Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown County Council is set to formally indicate soon that it will co-operate on the initiative, following a discussion by its finance committee.

James Humphreys, a Labour Party councillor for Swords in Fingal, said many visitors to hotels in his area – in the hinterland of Dublin airport – were transient commuters. He hopes a tourism levy could be ringfenced for initiatives to encourage tourists to venture further in Fingal and stay for longer.

However, councils cannot implement such a tax without enabling legislation from national government. Fingal wrote to the Minister for Finance late last year to request this.

Séamas McGrattan, a Sinn Féin councillor and chair of Dublin City Council’s finance committee, said Dublin-wide cooperation would ensure there was no distortion of the tourism market, and increase political pressure on national government to take action.

Dublin City Council’s finance committee proposed a 1% hotel tax in 2023. The council’s current ruling coalition of Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael, Labour and the Green Party is in favour of such a measure. It says a tourist tax will help fund city services and enable the council to ease pressure on small businesses commercial rates.

Tourist taxes are levied in many popular destinations worldwide. Visitors to Venice pay €1-5 per night, depending on the time of year, with the funds used to finance maintenance of the city’s heritage sites, as well as public services and events.

In Vienna, visitors must pay 3.2% tourist tax on their accommodation bill, while Lisbon doubled its tourist tax from €2 to €4 per guest per night last September.

The Irish Hotels Federation has criticised the proposal for Dublin, arguing that its members in the capital already contribute to the city’s budget through commercial rates and levies to fund local authority services. Hotels argue a tourist tax will hamper Ireland’s competitiveness in the international tourism market.

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    Mute James Lough
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    Feb 27th 2022, 8:08 AM

    Putin we had 2 years of covid and now you start this absolute farce which will achieve nothing.

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    Mute Richard Williamson
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    Feb 27th 2022, 11:03 AM

    @James Lough: I think he plans on rebuilding a Soviet empire.

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    Mute sean o'dhubhghaill
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    Feb 27th 2022, 2:18 PM

    @Richard Williamson: He is, after all, ex KGB.

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    Mute Daniel O' Connor
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    Feb 27th 2022, 4:06 PM

    @Richard Williamson: Most ex soviet states are already controlled by Putin through puppet governments. Ukraine was sliding too far West for his liking

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    Feb 27th 2022, 4:54 PM

    @Richard Williamson: what good will it do him, he’s 69 years of age and not in the best of health. Maybe that’s his thinking though, he’s not afraid to make a big mess because he knows he’ll not be around too long to see it.

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    Mute Giovanni Casermaggio
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    Feb 27th 2022, 9:16 PM

    @Richard Williamson: I agree

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    Mute Noel Doherty
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    Feb 27th 2022, 10:35 PM

    @James Lough: have you ever seen a farce, an actual farce? I saw one once a Noel Coward play, it was farcical for sure

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    Mute Charles Malone
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    Feb 27th 2022, 8:08 AM

    Nelson Mandela: “Courage is not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it.

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    Mute Daftbit Jelly
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    Feb 27th 2022, 8:30 AM

    @Charles Malone: Just what Ukraine needs more platitudes.

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    Mute James Kerins
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    Feb 27th 2022, 10:36 AM

    @Daftbit Jelly: Just what Ukaraine needs, more Sarcasm.

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    Mute James Kerins
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    Feb 27th 2022, 10:36 AM

    @James Kerins: *Ukraine

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    Mute David Jordan
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    Feb 27th 2022, 10:06 AM

    Russian troops tried entering Khershon early this morning. Some drove into the city at high speed in light armored cars and canvass covered Kamaz trucks…

    https://twitter.com/notwoofers/status/1497803254360649732

    and other soldiers tried slowly walking in behind light armoured vehicles out in the open, and walked into an ambush. They all scattered when shooting started.

    They were attacked by the Ukrainian army and defeated…

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ukraine_af/status/1497853318458232837.

    Russian troops are very poorly trained, it was bizarre to see. Not only are they walking into a city with high building, exposed, they are not using tanks. They might as well tried cycling into the city.

    Seems they were ordered to entre the city for a photo opportunity, a lot of pressure up top to get results. They haven’t captured a city yet.

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    Mute David Jordan
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    Feb 27th 2022, 10:26 AM

    @David Jordan: Correct link.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t2j8au/kharkiv/

    They just drove into the city and into a trap.

    I posed the first video of a Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 drone hitting a target at Khershon International Airport.

    And here they’re walking into the city out in the open.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t2il8a/russian_forces_in_kharkiv_got_under_attack/

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    Mute Richard O Connor
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    Feb 27th 2022, 10:27 AM

    @David Jordan: conscripts cost 400$ a month to pay a t80 or t90 is $4,000,000 at least. They can replace the 18-22 year olds easier. Sad days for humanity

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    Mute Paul Hedderman
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    Feb 27th 2022, 11:02 AM

    @David Jordan: Maybe the poorly trained are the Rosgvardia, the Russian National Guard, as opposed to the Russian military? Could be a case of sending in the “pawns” first as he thought it would be an easy campaign in Ukraine and hes keeping his proper military for further expansion/if the west gets drawn into the conflict….. Hopefully not and this all ends soon

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    Feb 27th 2022, 11:12 AM

    @David Jordan: Putin has told them that they’d be seen as liberators and would be welcomed by the Ukrainian people……His lies are being exposed.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 11:48 AM

    @David Jordan: It is called reconnaissance. The Russians don’t want to fight for the cities. They will besiege them. Modern cities generally have about 3 days supply of food on hand and are dependent on rather fragile ‘just in time’ supply chains.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 11:59 AM

    @Paul Hedderman: correct

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    Mute Des Hanrahan
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    Feb 27th 2022, 12:17 PM

    @Des Hanrahan: Slight correction they do appear to be fighting for Kharkov.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 2:32 PM

    @Stephen Murphy: get over yourself, they are sacrificial pawns in Putin’s plans. Your great hero is getting exposed for the madnan he is.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 3:01 PM

    @David Jordan: correct. Putin relies on reputation and numbers on the ground, but troops very poorly trained.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 4:16 PM

    @David Jordan: Grozny 2.0

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    Feb 27th 2022, 1:49 PM

    Putin is now trying to escalate the conflict with talk of Nuclear. He is literally this centuries’ Hitler. Russians must stop him! It’s on the Russian army and Russian people now

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    Feb 27th 2022, 4:53 PM

    @Local Ore: Exactly, it has to come from within. Protests are taking place in cities all over Russia today. Hopefully the financial collapse tomorrow will be the catalyst that is needed and Putin will suffer a ‘heartattack’

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    Feb 27th 2022, 8:52 AM

    The Demonstrations in support of the people of Ukraine must continue until this Stops

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    Feb 27th 2022, 10:02 AM

    We need to take more action on the aviation front. Closing Irish airspace is largely symbolic. With several Russia backed SPVs and leasing companies based in Ireland well over 100 aircraft are funded or leased through Irish companies at the IFSC and elsewhere in this country. These companies can only continue to do this with Central Bank, Stock Exchange and Companies Office agreement, so the Government can directly intervene. In any case the assets (aircraft) are at risk and credit backing from Russian banks may soon be worthless.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 11:31 AM

    @Mark Campbell: ya a nofly zone over Ukraine is needed. Very basic level protection for Ukraine but also effective.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 2:49 PM

    @Roy Dowling: no not necessarily. It can be done & yes the British have made those claims but on a humanitarian basis it can be done to protect large population areas and protect escaping refugees. Its just that Ukrainians would also not be let fly planes.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 11:08 AM

    Am I reading this correctly, that the head of the Russian Orthodox Church is supporting the War and Invasion. If so, it’s not a Christian Church if it supports War and Aggression, and my Church, the Roman Catholic Church should sever all ties with it.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 11:34 AM

    @Owen McGinley: you clearly don’t understand your church or the Russian orthodox Church. Both involved and supporting wars throughout their history. Your church had a political wing in the last century called fascism and the Russian orthodox Church has aligned itself also with fascists in the balkans and Russia. Christopher Hitchens wrote & spoke extensively about this 20 years ago. “Religion poisons everything”.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 11:40 AM

    @Allora: I know my Church all too well, although I had hoped it would have moved on a bit, and I was using this forum in part to allow other comments and raise the issue.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 1:34 PM

    @Owen McGinley: — It’s not unusual for Christian clerics to be involved in supporting wars. The Nazi supporting president of Slovakia during WW2 was an RC priest. That’s only one example, and there must be countless others.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 3:10 PM

    @William Tallon: yes I’ve heard of it but haven’t read it but apparently its viewed as a judgement on the Hitch and presents the arguments in a trail like manner as claimed by Seymour but without input of a defence from christopher obviously and yes he supported the war on Iraq and Afghanistan for his own reasons as he made clear. Imperialism wasn’t one of them and that claim leans towards someone who hadn’t read him. He most definitely was an authority on the rcc. He was called to the Vatican to speak about his knowledge of mother theresa & her reputation. I’d call that a validation of his authority.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 3:11 PM

    @William Tallon: by the way he was a member of the Eastern orthodox Church.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 1:09 PM

    Will the west do anything about the countries supporting Russia during its invasion of Ukraine? China, India, Pakistan, UAE, all are standing with Russia, that will enable Putin to continue. Why are we just ignoring that?

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    Feb 27th 2022, 2:23 PM

    @Local Ore: maybe the international community cannot or will not, but we can…. when buying something, look at where it’s made. Buy Irish or EU at least.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 2:44 PM

    @Local Ore: Doubtful

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    Feb 27th 2022, 3:01 PM

    @Local Ore: The absentee countries don’t necessarily support the war and the UAE has condemned it. The UAE are usually aligned with America, but annoyed at Biden’s lack of support when the UAE came under attack recently. They used absenteeism to show their annoyance. If they vetoed that would have been a different situation.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 3:38 PM

    @Local Ore: Only Belarus are standing with Russia

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    Feb 27th 2022, 3:04 PM

    The best thing that can happen is a bit of fear and common sense in his circle, internal coup. Take him out now. Pull back from Ukraine and start the job of restoring Russia’s place in the world.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 11:55 AM

    Putin had to wait until Angela Merkel had stood down and this muppet had taken charge. She understood what Ukraine was loosing having grown up under essentially soviet rule in east Germany and realising that they would rather be dead than under Russian rule.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 1:10 PM

    @Colm O’Leary: ya cause she stop Russia in 2014 and 2008 and didn’t want the gas line from Russia,she really stood up to Putin.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 8:53 PM

    @Daniel Roche: that wasn’t any of her business in 2008 or 2014. That would have led to war with Russia for sure!

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    Feb 27th 2022, 11:20 AM

    Is it Russian registered planes that will be banned from Irish airspace or will it include all the planes that are registered in Ireland through their leasing companies or other low tax jurisdiction? I’d imagine it’s irrelevant though as they can’t reach Irish airspace without traversing UK airspace & they have issued a ban on all Belarusian & Russian flights so if we want to remain neutral we could do so without offending anyone. Lets face it if an Aeroflot plane was passing over Irish airspace what are the air corp going to do about it?

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    Feb 27th 2022, 1:54 PM

    @Joe Thorpe: hopefully it will include planes being used by any Russian airline regardless of it’s state of registration.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 1:11 PM

    Putin needs go into a dark room and have a chat with himself about what he wants.

    Ukraine has closed door on Nato Membership. Objective met.
    There is a point from where we cannot go back.

    Does he want to be an ageing man watching Russia slowly disintegrate.
    The way the world is now for any country you can lead it or leave it we are all codependent.

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    Mute Tommy Roche
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    Feb 27th 2022, 8:00 PM

    Sanctions need to be tightened to include a complete EU airspace ban on all flights to/from both Russia and Belarus. And Belarus needs to be hit with exactly the same sanctions as Russia. They need to be treated as one and the same.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 2:55 PM

    I am the man, the well fed man
    In charge of the terrible knob
    The most pleasing thing about it
    It’s almost a permanent job

    When the atom war is over
    And the world is split in three
    A consolation I’ve got, well, maybe it’s not
    There’ll be nobody left but me

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    Feb 27th 2022, 4:42 PM

    I think PooTin is having a stroke. Russian economy will not recover from this.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 12:12 PM

    MOD Putin has calculated 50k Russian deaths is acceptable for this war. They thought they would kiev easier- they are now going to starve it ..cutting it off etc.. but it’s also reported Kermlin needs to secure Kiev by Monday. Russian fx expected to collapse on Monday. If Putin is backed into a corner .. will he put chemicals in Kiev water?

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    Feb 27th 2022, 3:02 PM

    Can we not just boot the feckers out now? Seriously wtf are our government playing at? Threats with nuclear weapons…. Time to stop the charade

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    Mute James Lough
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    Feb 27th 2022, 4:54 PM

    @Rerek Tony Dyan: Putin is unhinged, therefore, the west is genuinely in a difficult position. If he uses nukes we are all in serious trouble.

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    Feb 27th 2022, 10:23 AM

    How are we supposed to stop the entering?

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    Feb 27th 2022, 3:28 PM

    Yet again I am left wondering why Ireland does not have a nuclear weapons.
    Blind Larry has informed me he has a CERT Basic in drone navigation.
    I mean I could have the fuse lit. With enough time to pour a fresh pint of Guinness before watching the firework display on CNN.
    What could possibly go wrong?

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    Feb 27th 2022, 6:31 PM

    We cannot just watch a genocide in Kyiv happen over the next week – we must protect them if putin chooses this action, no more excuses

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    Feb 27th 2022, 10:21 PM

    @SheepleDog: We cant but it has to be handled delicately by the west as they’re dealing with a mad man with nuclear weapons. There might not be a “we” anymore if things escalate to a nuclear war involving other nations….. Scary thought

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    Feb 27th 2022, 6:07 PM

    We, including Irish democrats, must prepare now to fight to protect Kyiv – we cannot stand back and watch the genocide of a European democratic city despite putins bluff of nukes (may as well blow himself up)

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    Feb 27th 2022, 11:20 PM

    Problem now is that Putin has boxed himself into a corner and can’t be seen to back down for fear of losing credibility with those Russians that support him. To withdraw or concede could very well spell the beginning of the end for him. Ironic that he preaches to Russians that Ukrainians are part of the great motherland family, and on the other hand he’s prepared to bomb and kill them?

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    Feb 27th 2022, 5:21 PM

    Talk about what!!

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    Feb 27th 2022, 6:27 PM

    Ukraine agreed to talks but not in Belarus!!!!

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    Feb 28th 2022, 12:01 AM

    This is all going to end very badly with mad Vlad’s finger on the nuclear button.

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    Feb 28th 2022, 12:37 AM

    Putin clearly on steroids fluid retention very obvious tonight. Something not right.

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