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State using private law firm as nuns continue attempts to raid Shine abuse fund

A schedule of records obtained on foot of a Freedom of Information request shows that 63 emails were sent or received by the Department of Health over the past year in relation to the Indemnity Agreement.

A PRIVATE LAW firm is representing the State in an independent review to determine whether a congregation of nuns can take back money set aside to deal with sex abuse claims.

The Department of Health confirmed to The Journal that Comyn Kelleher Tobin is representing it and the HSE as they engage with an unnamed independent expert.

The Medical Missionaries of Mary are trying to withdraw money from a fund intended to indemnify the State against legal cases taken by victims of disgraced doctor Michael Shine.

The Congregation ran the Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital in Drogheda where Shine worked as a surgeon for decades and where many of the alleged incidents of abuse took place.

A schedule of records obtained on foot of a Freedom of Information request shows that 63 emails were sent or received by the Department of Health over the past year in relation to the Indemnity Agreement.

The Department refused to release the contents of the correspondence, insisting that it “would disclose confidential communications between the Department and our legal advisor and other parties and their legal advisor”.

Victims say that they appreciate that the review is ongoing, but the Department should still be able to give them some basic details about how the process is being conducted.

Ian Armstrong told The Journal that he and other victims are appealing for “more transparency”.

“We have had no communication from the Department of Health, no communication whatsoever,” he said.

CEO of the support and advocacy organisation Dignity4Patients Adrienne Reilly said that the lack of communication with victims demonstrates that the State has failed to deliver its promise of a victim-centred approach to dealing with the Shine case.

Last August, after a number of victims spoke publicly for the first time, Tanaiste (then-Taoiseach) Simon Harris said: “We need to actually help these people get the answers, and we need to do it in a victim, survivor-centred way.

“So what I want them to know is that I hear them, that I do want government to engage with them, but I also want that engagement to be useful from their point of view.”

The Department of Health also confirmed to The Journal this week that the independent expert will be paid “in accordance with the provisions of the deed”.

The 1997 Agreement stipulated that fees and expenses paid to the independent expert “shall be shared equally between the Congregation and the Minister”.

Ian Armstrong said that he felt it was “very odd” that the nuns were paying half of the cost of a report that could decide if they can withdraw the funds themselves. 

Hundreds of men claim that they were abused by Shine over decades while he worked at the hospital and operated a private practice in the Louth town.

The hospital, established in 1939, was owned and run by the nuns until 1997 when it was sold to the North Eastern Health Board for IR£5.5 million.

The day before the purchase was announced by the then-Health Minister Michael Noonan, the Medical Missionaries of Mary signed a Deed of Indemnity and Charge.

The purpose of the agreement was to indemnify the State against claims “arising out of or in connection with” potential liability in respect of possible claims of alleged abuse.

The Agreement refers to allegations of abuse at the time that it was signed in 1997: “Various incidents of sexual abuse (‘the alleged abuse’) may have occurred in the hospital during the period of ownership thereof by the Congregation.”

A fund was created and a lodgement of IR£1.6 million was made by the Congregation, into an “interest bearing deposit account with The Investment Bank of Ireland” more than 28 years ago. It’s understood the fund is now worth multiples of that original amount and that it has never been accessed by the State to make payments to victims. 

While there have been cases taken, payments were made through insurers.  

The congregation’s solicitors, Arthur Cox, were “irrevocably appointed by the Order to administer the fund”.

However, two years ago, the Medical Missionaries of Mary sought permission to withdraw the funds, leading to the appointment of an independent expert to decide whether this could be permitted. No decision has been made public. 

Comment has been sought from the congregation. 

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    Jan 4th 2020, 9:23 AM

    He didn’t see that coming

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    Jan 4th 2020, 10:10 AM

    @logs byrne: but we all saw this coming!

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    Jan 4th 2020, 11:09 AM

    @logs byrne: who says he didn’t.

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    Jan 4th 2020, 4:31 PM

    @logs byrne: He tweeted the news of his death just after it happened RIP..

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    Jan 4th 2020, 9:25 AM

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    Jan 4th 2020, 11:49 AM

    @Fr Romeo sensini.: maybe he will make appearance on the next most haunted

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    Jan 4th 2020, 4:13 PM

    @Fr Romeo sensini.:…or the start!

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    Jan 4th 2020, 9:39 AM

    Seemed like a decent bloke but he was caught bluffing on Most Haunted.

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    Jan 4th 2020, 2:06 PM

    @Alan McArdle: yeah top bloke exploiting and fleecing the grieving by pretending to talk to their lived ones from beyond the grave

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    Jan 4th 2020, 2:42 PM

    @Alan McArdle: how was he decent?
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    Jan 4th 2020, 6:01 PM

    @As the fella says: just a con man

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    Jan 4th 2020, 9:59 AM

    Great chance for him to come back and spill the beans about the other side.

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    Jan 4th 2020, 10:06 AM

    He always made me laugh, even if that wasn’t his intention. Very young to die. RIP

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    Jan 4th 2020, 11:14 AM

    Some horrible comments on here. I’m sure his loved ones don’t find it amusing. Rip x

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    Jan 4th 2020, 11:28 AM

    @Beauty Emporium: I’m sure his loved ones won’t be reading this.

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    Jan 4th 2020, 11:30 AM

    @páraicS: how do you know ? Isn’t it better to just show a bit of respect regardless ?

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    Jan 4th 2020, 5:34 PM

    @Beauty Emporium: I’m sure they won’t be reading them

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    Jan 4th 2020, 6:27 PM

    @Beauty Emporium: Why? Did he show any respect for his vulnerable clients when charging money for lies about them? He was a complete scammer and con man.

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    Jan 5th 2020, 12:59 PM

    @páraicS: Why do you read the journal?

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    Jan 4th 2020, 10:02 AM

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    Jan 4th 2020, 12:27 PM

    way way back in the early 1980s i was working as head chef in a restaurant in a small cheshire town near liverpool – the restaurant owner was asked to lease a room for a ‘spiritualist evening’ featuring ‘a well known local medium ‘ (derek acorah -before he was on tv etc) anyway on the evening he arrived at the venue and was shown up to the meeting room , we were asked by the owner to send up a pot of tea and some refreshments – the girl who took the tray up to him said ” the manager said to bring this up for you ” achora replied -”oh ,i wasn’t expecting anything like that ” – “well your not much of a clairvoyant then are you “she replied !

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    Jan 4th 2020, 9:39 AM

    I predict we are all going to die one day

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    Jan 4th 2020, 1:32 PM

    @Tony O Neill: only 93% certain though

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    Jan 4th 2020, 2:04 PM

    @Tony O Neill: just one day?

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    Jan 4th 2020, 12:16 PM

    Absolute spoofer who preyed upon the weak, vulnerable & gullible

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    Jan 4th 2020, 12:28 PM

    @Liam Ó hAodha: alot of whom find alot of comfort in mediums

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    Jan 4th 2020, 12:50 PM

    @Liam Ó hAodha: priests up and down the country will be doing that at mass tomorrow and tonight. At least Most Haunted carried the disclaimer in the small print that it was first and foremost, entertainment.

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    Jan 4th 2020, 1:13 PM

    @miju irl: In my experience it only stops you seeing that if you’re departed one is gone forever there is a peace in nothingness. I don’t want a man who behaved as Jesus Moses etc caring for loved ones in the afterlife with their record and the trouble and deception they caused. Its time religious platitudes were silenced. The truth as raw as it is is best

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    Jan 4th 2020, 2:05 PM

    @miju irl: no difference between this and the Catholic Church

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    Jan 4th 2020, 2:24 PM

    @miju irl: yeah that’d be great if they weren’t changing people €200+ A pop just to be told garbage that people post on social media

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    Jan 4th 2020, 3:40 PM

    @Forest Hump: any church, not just catholic

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    Jan 4th 2020, 5:10 PM

    @Liam Ó hAodha: he learned it all from the muppets in the DAIL

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    Jan 4th 2020, 10:39 AM

    He’s going from host to guest

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    Jan 4th 2020, 11:38 AM

    @Justice Mickey: host to ghost

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    Jan 4th 2020, 12:05 PM

    @Justice Mickey:
    Host to ghost?

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    Jan 4th 2020, 12:35 PM

    @Ixtrix Net:
    No, a guest on Most Haunted lol.

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    Jan 4th 2020, 10:12 AM

    he’s in for the real thing now

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    Jan 4th 2020, 9:31 AM

    Not that haunted so

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    Jan 4th 2020, 10:31 AM

    Sam didn’t give him a heads up

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    Jan 4th 2020, 1:24 PM

    @Tom Guthrie: yes very strange that . Cos Sam was always interrupting him . Making Derek stop what he was saying to nod and say thank you Sam . Maybe Sam knew it was coming and sought employment with a different medium

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    Jan 4th 2020, 11:33 AM

    Rest in Peace

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    Jan 4th 2020, 10:35 AM

    Can’t wait to hear about it when he comes back. A while new season of shows right there. Get on it Netflix.

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    Jan 4th 2020, 10:25 PM

    His wife is giving away all his clothes, he was a medium…..

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    Jan 6th 2020, 6:41 AM

    @Robc: OFAH!

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    Jan 4th 2020, 10:45 AM

    The Bean Sidhe got him

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    Jan 4th 2020, 6:04 PM

    Con man

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    Jan 4th 2020, 10:06 AM

    Most Haunted

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    Jan 4th 2020, 12:28 PM

    RIP

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    Jan 4th 2020, 3:32 PM

    @miju irl: but he won’t, will he?

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    Jan 4th 2020, 5:49 PM

    He’s at peace with Sam now…. RIP
    Great show man

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    Jan 4th 2020, 8:41 PM

    “Mark loves Dick……Mary loves Dick”

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    Jan 4th 2020, 7:02 PM

    He was streaming live on Facebook a few weeks back, getting a fair bit of grief and slagging.

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