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JUSTICE MINISTER JIM O’Callaghan has dismissed claims by Labour that “unvetted trainee gardaí are being allowed to patrol out streets”.
Speaking in the Dáil this morning, Labour’s Justice Spokesperson Alan Kelly said that Garda Commissioner Drew Harris informed the Justice Department in November that “full vetting would no longer take place in Templemore prior to trainees entering the college”.
Kelly said this “sent shockwaves” through the force.
“If gardaí are not going to be fully vetted before entering Templemore, then how can standards be maintained?” asked Kelly.
O’Callaghan said the Garda Commissioner has described the vetting system in place as the “most stringent vetting of any role in the state”.
The Justice Minister said there are three stages to the vetting process.
Stage one is completed before garda recruits enter Templemore, and stages two and three occur when they are in Templemore.
O’Callaghan said this speeds up the process of recruitment and that new gardaí will end up being vetted to the same degree as anyone else in the force.
“It won’t result in a situation where we have gardaí patrolling the streets as attested members who haven’t been thoroughly vetted,” said O’Callaghan.
“They are vetted, but the process of vetting isn’t completed until they are fully attested.”
However, Kelly said the standards of vetting are now different and that the new vetting procedure is a “political ploy to ensure that numbers got bumped up in December”.
He said O’Callaghan needs to ensure that there is no one in Templemore who shouldn’t be there.
“These people who enter Templemore need to be vetted in the same standard as they have always been vetted,” said Kelly.
“The public aren’t buying this and they’re worried about it.”
However, O’Callaghan repeated that the vetting takes place in three stages, and he noted that the first stage, completed before anyone enters Templemore, is extensive and involves detailed personal information on the candidate and family members
He said the second stage, which happens while the candidate is in Templemore, involves “security checks and local vetting, which is a short interview conducted by a sergeant or higher rank on the garda’s local station”.
The third stage then involves the garda vetting bureau making a final decision, said O’Callaghan.
However, Kelly said the “bottom line” is that there are candidates in Templemore “who simply are not vetted to the standard required”.
“You can’t deny that,” said Kelly, “and there are guards of different ranks who are disgusted by this.”
O’Callaghan repeated that part of the vetting process takes place during training, and that this is done to speed up the recruitment process due to a “recruitment crisis”.
“We are changing the sequencing of the process to speed it up,” said O’Callaghan.
“We are letting people start, and then we are getting the information and we’re getting fully vetted gardai at the end of the process.”
In a statement after their Dáil exchange, Kelly said the issue is “absolutely staggering”.
“The public will be shocked that trainee Gardaí – individuals who may never even become full members of the force – are being sent out on patrol without the necessary background checks.
“I have been told by Gardaí that full vetting ‘would no longer take place’ for new recruits entering Templemore.
“This raises fundamental questions about the Government’s commitment to upholding the integrity of the force.”
Kelly described the new vetting system as “desperate attempt to paper over the cracks” which involved “unvetted trainees being sent out, putting both the public and the integrity of the Gardaí at risk”.
Kelly added that there needs to be an “immediate guarantee that no trainee is being deployed on patrol without full vetting”.
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How will that affect his shareholding in REIT though? Oh right it won’t because there is nowhere to rent because he and his other career politicians destroyed the rental market intentionally for the un.
@: “were turning a corner on 10/12 of undersupply”… literally admitting they didn’t do their jobs, but its all grand.
@Thesaltyurchin: yep, sure what would be the consequences to squandering billions in usury money to line his own pockets with investment and share returns. 12 years of working out ways to extort the tax payer. He does nothing other p I s s I n g on us and tell us its raining.
There should be no tax to pay for us awesome landlords
@: Yep and when you consider the housing crisis we are experiencing now was predicted over a decade ago and FFG have been the government all that time it makes one wonder what the last four Ministers of Housing were actually doing because they certainly weren’t trying to solve said crisis. Now look at us, its totally unacceptable.
This made is the definition of delusion!
@Rob Ryan: “man”
@Rob Ryan: such as those who ignore the massive increase in the delivery of housing since he became Minister ?
@Roj Blake: Where?
@David Corrigan: in some of the department figures, somewhere. Not on the ground
Mind you, they may deliver a year’s worth of their objectives in about 6 to 7 years, if we’re lucky
@Roj Blake: please tell us I need a good laugh
@Tom Newell: dont mind Stephen, he doesn’t post under his real name anymore because everyone was laughing at him for getting kicked out of FF and he still shills for them every day hahaha
@Roj Blake:
Where has Steven Kearon gone?
Since he has stopped posting under his real name you & john john have turned up with the same claptrap.
Probably just a coincidence.
@David Corrigan: Well I live in Limerick city and houses have been built and are halfway or starting on all sides of the city,plus two new secondary schools and a hospital on the southside,don’t know about the rest of the country but non stop building in Limerick.
@Daniel Roche: and how many of them are being built by the government?
@Tom Newell: Limerick city,where I live,I’m on holidays this week,more than happy to give you a tour of the houses built,half built,just starting,this is my name on Facebook if you want to organise, fully accept could be totally different across the country but there is a serious about of building works in Limerick across housing, schools, hospitals etc.
@Daniel Roche: ROFL
@Frank Cauldhame: Genuinely don’t know what that means, sorry.
@Martin Mongan: Well I haven’t seen any ministers actually building them but plenty of social housing if that is what you mean, just ten minutes walk from me,the blood mill roadmulgrave street,not enough but great to see it.
@Frank Cauldhame: Had to Google it,not sure how that is funny,I’m more than happy to give you a tour of Limerick,the question was asked where,I said Limerick city cause I’m living in Limerick city,to anyone on here more than happy to show you building works going on in Limerick and show what has been built,I didn’t vote for any of government parties but there is a huge amount of construction in Limerick and I’m happy to show anyone on here, maybe look at the facts before laughing on the floor, education is no burden.
More FFG ‘Schemes’…A few crumbs here and there to make it seem like their doing something
FFG out
Tackling the symptom instead of the disease, again.
That smacks of the usual “vote for me, the money’s great, I can’t get enough of it”
More short term fixes that do nothing more than increase the cost of renting! This does nothing to alleviate the crisis. Same as HAP. We need more supply of housing.
@Sean Murphy:
Correct, we need more builders which neither FF, SF, FG or any other party can come up with a viable solution to.
All the restof their proposals are just window dressing.
@P.J. Nolan: I’m a builder, living in London with 2 other builders from Ireland and working with plenty of other Irish builders who would come home TOMORROW if we actually had somewhere to live that didn’t involve paying over the top rents.
More public money being shifted straight into the private pockets. How long do we have to tolerate this stuff??
@Jim O’Sullivan: excellent news
they wouldn’t need this nonsense if they took the vultures on with the law’s.. but no it’ll never happen ,, this all started when the greedy decided to get rid of Bedsits in the 90′s which made many homeless and many rich … sound familiar
@Trent: bedsits have been replaced by dorms, which are a much more efficient use of space.
@brian o’leary: That’s exactly what a vulture or slumlord would say,, i hope your neither and just Naive
@Trent: you’ll find they don’t celebrate the name Michael Noonan anymore as his involvement in bringing vultures funds into the country under the circumstances they were brought in on was nothing short of economic treason.Now they’re in they’re in.FG at their very best.
@brian o’leary: Dorms? Do the residents have personal toilets/bathrooms or do 50 people share same?
Jazes.
Has their ever been a worse Housing Minister?
The will never end as long as FFFG are in power. They’ve had 100+ years and housing – like most everything in Ireland – is a catastrophe.
But “here’s 500 quid…now shut up”
@Chris O’Brien: yes, look at the Shinners in NI when they controlled housing portfolio
@Roj Blake: good man Stephen even after getting you kicked out of FF you still go on about the “shinners” hahaha
@Roj Blake: How long has the North been now without a functioning Govment? Almost like it works differently there.
Housing is not a commodity. This useless shower had little industry outside of agriculture, then the big corps and tech giants came, after 2008 housing in Ireland became the new gold standard for investment firms, laws in other countries protect the citizens from this type of skulduggery but our crowd invited them in and changed policies to keep them here. Fffg are not for the people of this country. Prove me wrong
@Tom L: oh it certainly is a commodity and I profit handsomely from the commodity :)
@Tom L: no argument here i think theyve more than proved that they do not have the interests of ordinary people at heart. Im just amazed that no one is organising protests en masse to get them out
@Nicola: and bring in the political wing of a terrorist organisation who have never run a country…..and who’s other half are doing a worse job of it up north.yeah?
@uUleRhCu: and I’ve no time for this bunch…it’s depressing.
This fella is a scrounger. We need a hand up, not another handout! It’s honestly a shocking state of affairs that the housing minister doesn’t see that these handouts aren’t solving the issue, they are prolonging it. As a renter myself, 500 quid has only knocked off a portion of a month’s rent for me. We should be in the streets trying to get FFG out, I’m sick to my teeth of reading these last ditch efforts.
@Eoghan: I would never rent to someone with a disgusting attitude like yours
There is and saying , you can’t teach a old dog new tricks . Oh yea we have an election next year
I want to see the back of FFG green muppets that’s what I want
Da** all use to OAPs!
Increase in tax credit means landlords will increase rent
I am so confused about thise announcment.
The housing body confirmed it has 4,100 new social and cost rental homes ready for construction…It said that with Government support, the organisation could deliver 700 of these new homes this year and a further 900 by the end of 2024.
So they are annoucing/celebrating planing permission now?
They will build 1300 houses in a YEAR and a half?
This sounds more like abject failure with regards to housing targets, yet they have a photo op with this?
I must be going mad. IS this genuinely what the announcment is about????
I’ve not seen one policy from FFG that will make a real difference to the housing crisis.
What would make a real difference is to reduce immigration. Start kicking out failed asylum seekers. Start kicking out people that have lost their passports at Dublin airport. Stop handing out so many visas to South Americans, Asians and Africans etc.
It really is that simple.
@Voice of Reason:
We need lots more immigration!!
Advertise in Africa, south America and Asia for labourers, put them up in log cabins and mobile homes and teach them a trade.
4or 500,000 should do the trick…….
Hopefully most will bring their families and stay
@P.J. Nolan: We need a radical overhaul of how we educate our children. Teach them trades and lifeskills instead of basing their future on an exam which is basically a memory test.
@P.J. Nolan: Most likley your being facetious and yet your kinda right here.
We need more housing to support foreign Medical proffesionals for one thing. Yet we cant bring in foreign skilled labourers as we have no where to put them.
Enact an Australian style visa program for skilled workers and students.
Problem there is we have nowhere to house them so our services will continue to suffer.
I always forget how everyone working in Irish hospitals are all Irish cos we have such an educated pool of Drs and nurses to pluck from in Ireland.
@Voice of Reason: How about we stop rewarding the indigenous population for having scrote after feckless scrote with no interest in engaging in any worthwhile trade or occupation;..generations upon generations of career benefits’ recipients contributing nothing to society.
And what about those renting houses which the landlords are not on the RTB? Which as far as I can work out are actually more than those on the RTB for the first time ever.
Second hand car sales man
Is this the “appropriate process” for requests for the budget that Michael Martin was referring to when he complaining about FG backbenchers writing opinion pieces for a newspaper? Ministers mouthing off at press events.
Why is there not a quote from Simon Harris in this article????
That would be a positive move, plus not forgetting the Shinner criminal gang wants to abolish all the measures that help ordinary working people buy their own homes.
@Roj Blake: You are more afraid of a party who have never been in power than you are two parties (FFG) who have spent 100 years proving they should be feared?
@Roj Blake: remembering that 99% of political criminality in the history of the Republic was committed by the parties this guy supports.
Because in fact he’s just a FFFG stooge, and the ONLY card he has to play is the same one the Unionists use: SF is scary.
This guy, and everyone like him, knows that as soon as SF is in power and there’s no increase in terrorism they’re all done. Forever.
@Roj Blake: For example???
@Roj Blake: You are starting to get boring!
@Roj Blake: You FFG deluded mob wouldnt know what helping people even looks like. Took the capital turning into a crime pit that dragged in tourists before your wish.com barbie of a minister reacted, the banks and developers literally own your parties and you cant go a week without embarrassing yourselves or the country
@Roj Blake: why don’t you post under your real name anymore Stephen? Is it cause people keep laughing you got ran out of FF yet still shill for them everyday online?
@Tom Newell: “barbie of a minister”? what a misogynistic comment to make
@Roj Blake: But Stephen you always use misogynistic and demeaning language!
Who cares what he says he has zero credibility now.
Does he? Brilliant. And who does he think will pay for it? A bunch of suckers who work hard and scrape by and build the future by creating families. Really, people need to pay for themselves. Sick of paying for everyone else.
Here’s a radical idea : how about the State not taking 52% of the rent in taxes ? Currently the State makes more than the landlord on a given property. The State IS the problem.
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