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Labour room built for less medicalised births cost €100,000 but rarely used

The suite in Sligo University Hospital is often called ‘the good sitting room’ by frustrated mothers and birth workers.

A SOUGHT-AFTER modern labour room with a birthing pool funded by the HSE to the tune of €100,000 is being rarely used in Sligo University Hospital (SUH).

The Journal Investigates can reveal that despite it being the only delivery suite that complies with recommended modern infrastructure guidelines for maternity care at the hospital, the room has often lay empty in the two and a half years since its completion.

“I don’t know why they won’t embrace it,” Sandra*, a midwife at the hospital who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told us.

The ‘Suaimhneas Room’, which translates as peace or serenity, is part of the HSE’s rollout of home-from-home delivery suites, a priority in the National Maternity Strategy to offer less medicalised birth options.

Often called “the good sitting room” by frustrated mothers and birth workers, it is equipped with a heated water birth pool, an ensuite with a shower, a sound system and mats for labouring on the floor.

It is the only delivery suite with an ensuite. One staff member called the rest of the labour ward “archaic”. According to staff, SUH has been waiting for a new maternity unit since 2007.

Sandra said staff often keep the door of the Suaimhneas Room shut and claim it’s being used when it’s empty. She added:

They’re not facilitating what the women need and what we have to offer in physiological birth, and we’ve got the most beautiful place to do that in.

Generally, physiological birth means there are no interventions performed, such as continuous monitoring and drugs to induce labour.

Benefits are many and include increased breastfeeding rates, greater maternal satisfaction and reduced costs of care. This type of birth, however, is not recommended for women with certain risk factors or conditions, like preeclampsia or placenta previa.

Other reasons SUH staff gave for rarely using the room was lack of confidence, fear of litigation if things went awry, lack of adequate staffing and distance, the room being too far away as compared to the other labour suites — despite a difference of a few steps.

When presented with these claims, a SUH spokesperson said: “Not all labouring women will meet the criteria or indeed wish to use the room.”

On staff shortages, SUH told us that the hospital currently has “a number of vacancies within its midwifery department” but recruitment is ongoing.

In line with the National Maternity Strategy, SUH provides one-to-one care for birthing women. When asked directly how staff shortages affect care in the Suaimhneas Room, given it is all one-to-one care, the hospital did not respond.

Over the past two years, in antenatal classes and clinics, women have been told the room “might” be ready by their due dates.

But The Journal Investigates spoke to women who used the suite at the times when staff claimed the room was still under works.

In the months of reporting this story, we spoke to nearly 40 women who gave birth in the Sligo area in the past two years, as well as midwives, GPs and other pre and postnatal birth workers.

Of the mothers we spoke to, only five used the Suaimhneas room for all or part of their labours and only two used the pool, which cost more than €15,000.

Conversations with women in other parts of the country suggest similar underutilisation of these style labour rooms.

When asked about this, the HSE’s National Women and Infants Health Programme (NWIHP) said: “The development and implementation of home-away-from-home delivery suites across maternity sites and services in the country has been enabled so as to support women to have a greater range of birth options.”

Sligo University Hospital Numerous women told us they were unable to access the new labour room in Sligo University Hospital. Adriana Casserly / The Journal Investigates Adriana Casserly / The Journal Investigates / The Journal Investigates

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Lack of consistency and clarity

Dozens of low-risk women shared a variety of reasons they were given as to why they were not allowed to use the room. Often these reasons conflicted.

Some included too few staff working in the labour ward, especially during night and weekends.

One was told that she couldn’t use the room because she was already 8 centimeters dilated; another woman who arrived at the labour ward with 8 centimeters dilation could use the room.

Some women we spoke to were not told that an induction meant they would risk-out of the room.

One woman was refused access to the room for being unable to provide urine for a test, though the few women we spoke to who were able to use the room did not need to provide urine samples.

Others were told that birthing in the Suaimhneas Room was not permitted, so even if they used the room for part of their labour, they would need to move to push. This is not in line with SUH’s guidelines.

Others were told the room was not complete or that the tub takes hours to fill, both are false.

One second-time mother was initially told she could not use the Suaimhneas room due to staffing constraints. Then, because the ward was at capacity, she was admitted to it but was not permitted to use the pool.

She told us she felt comfortable there and had a greater satisfaction with her second birth.

SUH said it could “not comment on individual cases”, but encouraged women to raise their concerns and feedback with a member of their clinical team or to use the HSE’s Your Service Your Say. The spokesperson added:

There is a rigorous complaints process in place in SUH that any patient can access.

In regards to staffing at night, the hospital said: “As is standard for all maternity units, there is a difference on staffing levels Monday to Friday in comparison with out of hours (nights and weekends).”

National priority — with no measures for success

The 2016 National Maternity Strategy, which aimed to normalise birth, outlined that each maternity network would provide alongside birth centres run by midwives rather than obstetrics. And where those were not feasible, provide designated low-technology spaces, like the Suaimhneas Room.

To date, there are still only two ‘alongside birth centres’ – the midwifery-led units operating in Cavan and Drogheda.

Home-from-home delivery suites have been developed in 15 units. Another, in Letterkenny, “is in the early stages of development”, the NWIHP told us.

The HSE has invested around €1.2 million in these style rooms nationwide. The NWIHP said that the full budget of €100,000 was spent on the Suaimhneas room.

Only women with normal-risk pregnancies under the Supported Care Pathway may have access to these rooms. In 2020, that amounted to almost 35% of women giving birth.

But, there seems to be little oversight of their success. When the number of women who accessed them was requested via FOI, the NWIHP said that it “does not collate this data at a national level”.

The response stated it “will continue to work closely” with the maternity networks and sites to support their “ongoing deployment and use”.

According to SUH staff, there is a record of use of the Suaimhneas room kept on the labour ward. When asked about this, a spokesperson for the hospital said: “There is no data available on the number of women using the unit.”

NMS 2017 The implementation plan for the National Maternity Strategy was launched by Simon Harris in 2017. Sam Boal / Rollingnews.ie Sam Boal / Rollingnews.ie / Rollingnews.ie

Years-long wait for less medicalised option

Nearly all sources interviewed expressed disappointment in not only the lack of the Suaimhneas room’s use, but also how long it took to create.

In preparation, staff told us that a reconfiguration of the labour ward in order to not lose beds was complete by 2018.

“The funding for Sligo was provided in three phases. €10,000 in September 2019, €35,000 in November 2019 and €55,000 in June 2022,” the NWIHP said.

Then, staff told us, for years the room sat empty.

In response, a SUH spokesperson said that before the room was upgraded, “it was used for other clinical purposes within the maternity unit including a triage room and a labour room for women with Covid or suspected to have Covid throughout the height of the pandemic”.

Plans for the Suaimhneas room were further delayed due to the pandemic. An invoice, obtained by FOI, shows works to the room were completed in June 2022.

Rooms in other parts of the country opened earlier, such as University Maternity Hospital Limerick’s Danu Suite, which opened to mothers in May 2018. NWIHP stated they funded all rooms between 2018 and 2024.

In Sligo, there are four other delivery rooms which share a single bathroom.

The most recent unannounced inspection of SUH’s maternity services by the Health Information and Quality Authority (HIQA) occurred in 2019.

The report concluded that the hospital “was compliant” with the majority of standards inspected but highlighted the physical environment of the labour ward:

It did not meet recommended design and infrastructural specifications needed to provide safe, high-quality care in a modern maternity service.

Numerous maternity units in the country have similar infrastructure issues.

With the Suaimhneas room being the only delivery room with an ensuite, not much has changed in Sligo in the five years since the audit.

SUH said they are seeking funding to upgrade the remainder of the labour ward.

In February 2023, a letter from the HSE to Sligo County Council stated the hospital launched the home-from-home room during 2022.

When asked for clarification as to when the Suaimhneas Room was first used, a spokesperson for SUH said that it was opened on 31 July 2023.

Yet, several women we interviewed were told in antenatal clinics and classes after that date that the room was not yet operational.

The earliest use of the Suaimhneas suite we could confirm by a woman who was not also part of the maternity staff was September 2023. That woman, a private patient, was told by staff that she was only the second or third woman in labour to avail of the suite.

Many women are ineligible based on the room’s criteria. Our investigation found from the experiences of many women who did qualify, they are rarely let in.

SUH stated that decisions around a mother’s suitability to safely use the birthing pool are determined in line with hospital guidelines and that “the safety and well being of the mother and their unborn child are central to all clinical determinations and criteria applied in this regard”.

Considering birth without medical assistance

“It’s hard to describe in words the feelings a mother-to-be goes through when her dream birth is slowly taken away from her, bit by bit,” one first-time mother, Eva, described her experience to our team. Due to privacy concerns, she asked that her last name be withheld.

Eva, who was 41 during her pregnancy, originally wanted a home birth but could not access the service. She also said did not qualify for the midwife-led unit in Cavan, due to “advanced maternal age”.

She described the possibility of birthing in the Suaimhneas room as a “small plaster on my wound.”

Eva Eva was disappointed that she wasn't able to use the Suaimhneas room when giving birth. Eva Eva

At every antenatal appointment and in classes, Eva tried to get clarity on the criteria for the room to little avail. After several visits to the labour ward, when the room was never in use, she “thought something was fishy,” and her hope of using the suite dwindled.

Because of SUH’s high intervention and C-section rates and Eva’s low confidence in the likelihood of using the Suaimhneas room, she planned to give birth at home without medical assistance, also called ‘freebirthing’.

Since freebirthing is unregulated and unregistered, there are no statistics on how many women have had them in recent years. The Journal Investigates reported a growth in unassisted births as part of our investigation in 2023.

In June 2024, Naomi James, a professional photographer and mother-of-four, died after giving birth at home, assisted only by a doula (a non-clinical birth worker). She had a postpartum haemorrhage after giving birth to her baby, who survived.

Eva and her partner bought supplies, like a birthing pool and waited. She told us:

I felt pushed to such desperate measures by the system.

While Eva was meeting her doula to finalise her birth plans, contractions came on suddenly and quickly became less than a minute apart. She was more than an hour away from home but only a few minutes away from the hospital.

After some deliberation, she decided to go to the hospital. As she predicted, she was not able to use the Suaimhneas room and was disappointed. While she had a quick labour with no interventions and called her midwife “awesome”, she was still frustrated by the lack of privacy at the birth.

“There are many midwives that do everything possible to accommodate mother’s wishes, however I often got the feeling that their hands were tied,” Eva said.

Despite knowing the risks, Eva said she would still prefer to freebirth, rather than give birth in the hospital, for future pregnancies.

More than half of the women we interviewed said they would be interested in a home birth for future pregnancies and several others either already freebirthed or intend to freebirth.

When this was put to the NWIHP, a spokesperson told us: “The HSE is aware of a small minority of women birthing without medical assistance.

“Unassisted births are associated with an increased risk of complications… The HSE would strongly advise all women that a trained maternity healthcare professional i.e. a midwife and/or an obstetrician, is present at all births.”

The NWIHP spokesperson also stated that SUH rates of induction of labour, instrumental delivery andor caesarean section are “in line” with national averages.

‘Answer’ for improving hospital birth choice

Many of the women interviewed expressed frustration and grief about the lack of birthing options in the north west and the high rates of interventions at SUH.

While the HSE provides a home birth service through privately employed midwives in some of the country, mothers in Sligo and the surrounding areas do not have access to this service.

Private Midwives Ireland, whose package of care is €6,800, has only one midwife who can cover up to Sligo, but not north of this. Thus, capacity is very limited.

A decade ago, Sligo had the lowest C-section rate in the country, at 19%. In 2023, the National Healthcare Quality Reporting System (NHQRS) reported Sligo had the sixth highest C-section rate in the country.

Last year, Sligo’s C-section rate was 42% and its induction rate was 35%. For first-time mothers, this increased to 43% for C-sections and 45% for inductions. This rise in intervention rates is consistent with the rest of the country.

Ireland has one of the highest C-section rates in Europe, according to the latest NHQRS report.

First-time mother, Saffron Demarco, who gave birth in May 2024, was determined to have a birth without medical interventions.

“To me that room was the answer,” she said.

While pregnant, she too originally hoped for a home birth. Saffron learned about the Suaimhneas Room at SUH’s antenatal classes and felt hopeful as she looked at the picture of a beautiful room.

Her class consisted of about twenty-five pregnant women. The facilitator warned not many would be eligible for the room and asked everyone who was low risk to raise their hands. Only two did and she was not one of them.

Saffron explained that she was low risk, but was put under consultant-led care because of her choice to forgo blood transfusions. Refusal of blood transfusions is not listed under the exclusion criteria for the Suaimhneas Room.

She could never get a clear answer as to whether she qualified for the room. While her obstetrician apparently recommended her for the room to the ward, they cautioned that ultimately the decision would remain with the head midwife on the day of her birth.

“That never made sense to me because why should it be their choice? You should be able to use the room or not use the room,” Saffron said.

When it came time for Saffron to give birth, she was denied access to the room. Her midwife said that she wanted her to use the room but it was out of her hands.

“I had a very traumatic experience of the birth and I feel that if I had that room, maybe things would have been different,” Saffron said. “Maybe I would have felt safer and more calm and the birth would have gone better.”

Saffron Saffron Demarco felt her birth experience would have improved with access to the Suaimhneas suite. Saffron Demarco Saffron Demarco

No births permitted in birthing pool

In response to an FOI, SUH said that all midwives have received education on the use of water immersion and on evacuation from the pool, and approximately 50% of the staff received training in water births.

Though water births are offered in some other hospitals around the country including Coombe, Wexford and Drogheda, SUH does not offer water births, so women must exit the pool before the pushing stage.

A SUH spokesperson said the hospital “ would like to offer this service for women” but it is “dependent on a number of factors”. These include “the finalisation of a national clinical guideline on water births and the completion and availability of a HSE waterbirth training module for midwives”.

“Work in these areas is actively ongoing at national level,” they added.

“There’s no point forking out all that money for that gorgeous room and then not being able to use it. It’s so disappointing,” said Síofra MacMahon.

She was one of two mothers we spoke to who managed to use the room and pool when her son was born in January 2024.

“You want things to go forward, you want water birth to be an option.”

* Name has been changed

The Journal Investigates

Our previous six-part investigation into birth choice can be read here. The Journal also published your stories last year of trauma endured during and after labour

Reporter: Adriana Casserly • Editor: Maria Delaney • Main Image Design: Lorcan O’Reilly • Social Media: Cliodhna Travers

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    May 10th 2023, 5:05 PM

    Simple answer. Take it out of the hands of RTE. In recent years they send turkeys who couldn’t win. Main reason? If we won they would have to host the next year. It would bankrupt the station.

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    May 10th 2023, 5:15 PM

    @Niall Sheridan: you’ve been watching too much father ted..

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    May 10th 2023, 5:18 PM

    @Niall Sheridan: Nail on the head.

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    May 10th 2023, 6:34 PM

    @Niall Sheridan: Bankrupt the station lol:-
    To host Eurovision, Liverpool city council will be using €2.3 million of council funds, which will be matched by the Liverpool City Region Combined Authority. Additional funding will come via the European Broadcasting Union, the BBC, and the U.K. government — for a total investment of around €11.3 million. They expect to generate £40M by hosting the event.

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    May 10th 2023, 6:38 PM

    @Niall Sheridan: the elephant in the room is rte,s general mediocrity… rte is riddled with awful output . Therefore its general management lacks creative creativity…
    Its preocupation with gender equality , dulls its output…

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    May 10th 2023, 10:57 PM

    @Niall Sheridan: and they wouldn’t get away with holding it in a showjumping shed in mill street

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    May 10th 2023, 5:32 PM

    The answer is in the article. RTE chooses and manages the act and voting is held on the Late Late Show. An outdated conservative show not representing the majority of the population. Maybe it did in the 70′s and 80′s but not today and is obvious from the choice that was made. Our country is filled with great musicians, the problem is the management behind this event – all the money in the world can’t fix that.

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    May 10th 2023, 5:19 PM

    Stop trying to fabricate talent, there is authentic talent all around Ireland, you just need authentic people to spot it.

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    May 10th 2023, 5:19 PM

    “My lovely Horse” That would have been a winner.

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    May 10th 2023, 5:37 PM

    Send Enoch Burke and family

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    May 10th 2023, 5:11 PM

    Because it’s not 1985.

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    May 10th 2023, 5:23 PM

    Maybe because the generic Stock, Aiken & Waterman type production (which hardly reflects an Irish sound in any event) went out in the eighties. Countries have been modernising and utilising their own distinctive traditional vibe for an age in Eurovision. And if there’s one thing we’re not short of in Ireland, it’s a wealth of great traditional history to draw from.

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    May 10th 2023, 5:17 PM

    I’d rather watch the paint dry whilst pulling my fingernails out!!

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    May 10th 2023, 5:23 PM

    @Ann Neylan: I know some clubs that can facilitate that. Dress code is leather only.

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    May 10th 2023, 6:02 PM

    @Ann Neylan: Oh thanks. I thought I was without a compass on a cold lonely sea.

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    May 10th 2023, 6:14 PM

    @Don’t Forget: I’d be up for that!… as long as I’m not subjected to viewing the Eurovision!!!

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    May 10th 2023, 5:31 PM

    Butch Moore , Dana , Linda Martin , Johnny Logan and other singers could sing . Those singers and others went to Eurovision with “proper” songs , not like the entries Ireland has sent in recent years .

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    May 10th 2023, 5:50 PM

    Unfortunately we aren’t as well liked and popular abroad as we’d like to think we are. That and although the Irish entry deserved to go through ahead of a bunch of lads dancing around in their underwear, it was a very mediocre woke song about we are one love etc

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    May 10th 2023, 5:25 PM

    Waste of money has been since Australia moved to Europe

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    May 10th 2023, 6:23 PM

    21 countries have never won the eurovision and still enter it every year. Some people need to calm down about Ireland not getting to the final.

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    May 10th 2023, 11:59 PM

    @Tom Leddy: Yes but Ireland is a country known for punching well above its weight in the arts in general. What’s put on that stage every year is not a reflection of the talent available in this country and the worst thing of all about that, is that it’s on purpose. RTE can’t risk sending too good a song because they don’t want to have to host it. Their attitude is nauseating.

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    May 10th 2023, 8:56 PM

    Problem: Our entry is chosen on a TV program which nobody under 40 watches. Answer: Irish Live Music Venues choose 15 acts. Each if these chooses a song. Then there is a LIVE concert in the Point with voting done on a reasonably accessible app.

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    May 10th 2023, 9:10 PM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: This!

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    May 10th 2023, 10:16 PM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: Forgot to mention that the concert should be live-streamed FREE!

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    May 11th 2023, 12:15 AM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: Good idea but it would have to be taken out of the control of RTE, because they won’t even put up proper funding for 1 act.

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    May 10th 2023, 5:42 PM

    Withdraw. Ireland could never win at the moment even if they had the best song ever. It’s not a song contest it’s a political game

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    May 10th 2023, 11:02 PM

    @Carm(Orange Vampire): Ireland are not doing well BECAUSE it’s a song contest and we haven’t sent a decent act in years…..

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    May 10th 2023, 5:17 PM

    When you bring, non european Countries into competition and to keep it alive. You know it is failing, like giving a dying pig a blood transfusion and using a Donkey or a mule.

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    May 10th 2023, 5:22 PM

    @Emmet Murphy: I think you’re telling Porky’s there

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    May 10th 2023, 5:23 PM

    @Emmet Murphy: hardly dying, have you seen the viewing figures? Biggest TV event outside the Olympics and World Cup. The fact is we haven’t had great songs and because we have no neighbours other than the brits we can’t rely on friendly votes like Scandinavian and Eastern European countries do. If it were based purely on jury votes like back in the day we’d have won it a few more times. But no jury voting in the semi finals means we’re always underdogs

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    May 10th 2023, 5:31 PM

    @Gearóid MacEachaidh: Viewing figures, seriously and that is how you’d measure its success? I tuned in one time, to see how silly it had become and I was right.

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    May 10th 2023, 5:39 PM

    @Emmet Murphy: that’s how the people who produce the success measure it lol, more viewing figures mean more TV rights money and advertising money. So yes, that is how I and the real world measures success. And of course it’s silly, it’s meant to be. That’s the whole point!

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    May 10th 2023, 6:20 PM

    @Gearóid MacEachaidh: produce the show*

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    May 10th 2023, 9:00 PM

    Is it the same people all the time at RTE? Louis Walsh and Linda Martin etc? They need throwing in the bin. Everyone saying we were robbed this year. Millions of people around Europe hated it. All it had to do was not be in the five worst songs of the night. It was an utterly bland song with utterly bland lyrics likened to a World Cup anthem or Coca Cola ad. The main singer was terrified with fear, and the backers sang the majority of the song. And as for the outfit? It was an instantly forgettable performance instantly forgotten by the entire continent. Fire the judges. And finally can you imagine the holy mortifying shame of Ireland pulling out “because we can no longer win it”. We’d be a laughing stock. But then…

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    May 10th 2023, 5:16 PM

    Send Cruachan next year and metalheads all over Europe will rally to it.

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    May 10th 2023, 5:36 PM

    We could go the revival route and have Michael Flately emerge, his oiled golden torso glinting in the follow-spots while playing air-shillelagh and singing something that includes the phrase, ‘ Hup ye boy yeh’ ?

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    May 10th 2023, 11:46 PM

    @Focal Cliste: thanks for the laugh

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    May 10th 2023, 11:49 PM

    @Focal Cliste:

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    May 10th 2023, 6:37 PM

    The Eurovision is a 2 night song contest. Nowadays the weirder the acts the more votes they get. As for investing more money in our efforts NO WAY. Most recent winners seem to disappear within the year.How many delegates are with the Irish act. It is a jolly for rte staff.

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    May 10th 2023, 5:39 PM

    Should have gone with CONNOLLY

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    Mute zephyrum
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    May 10th 2023, 5:06 PM

    Meh

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    Mute B Collins
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    May 10th 2023, 5:35 PM

    What is even the point of it? How much money have we spent on sending acts to Eurovision over the years and what have got out of it? It’s a waste of money. As creative investments go, we would be much better off just keeping our money for local initiatives that are for us than for performative eurotrash.

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    Mute dreiglaser
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    May 10th 2023, 5:30 PM

    Was it necessary to send an alert for this “news”?

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    Mute Michael Dowling
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    May 10th 2023, 5:44 PM

    Maybe AI can create us a winning tune.

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    Mute Anne Busher Collins
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    May 10th 2023, 5:41 PM

    Ireland just have access to the block voting. Norway votes for Sweden, Sweden votes for Norway, Croatia votes for Moldova, Moldova votes for Croatia. Its as simple as that. Eurovision organisers don’t care how farcical the song is, just keep spending money on votes guys.

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    Mute Mike Finnegan
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    May 10th 2023, 5:53 PM

    Ask Dana if she’ll do it next year. And tell her she can have the Aras when Michael D. is done with it…..

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    Mute Liz O'Neill
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    May 10th 2023, 11:18 PM

    I think even Liberace would have been embarrassed to wear that outfit.

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    Mute Martin O'Reilly
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    May 10th 2023, 6:00 PM

    Simply take the politics out, and a few more things? That’s what needs to happen. Fin.

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    Mute C McD
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    May 10th 2023, 11:46 PM

    RTE is the problem. They have no actual intention of hosting the Eurovision. But this is a bigger problem than Ireland’s over/underachieving record. It’s a systemic flaw in the design of the contest. An artist who wants to represent their country shouldn’t have to contend with whether their (largely irrelevant, out of touch) national broadcaster genuinely wants to host it. There has to be a better way.

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    Mute Patrick Burke
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    May 11th 2023, 12:40 AM

    Any country which sent a grotesque puppet called Dustin to represent them can’t complain when they fail time after time. People have very long memories and regarded it and still regard it as an act approaching contempt.

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    Mute Shelly
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    May 11th 2023, 7:57 AM

    Used to love the EuroVision but it’s not the same.
    Ireland needs to put fresh brains behind the whole entry concept. This country has oodles of talented artists not getting a look in because RTÉ uses the same old criteria but that needs to change. Up the budget for a start , all those millions supposedly allocated at the budget for the Arts should be spent on this , the returning revenue would be worthwhile . Put Ireland back into the Eurovision with a bang !

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    Mute Tim Brennan
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    May 10th 2023, 8:53 PM

    Move to country to Moldova or to the Baltic ocean

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    Mute Daniel Dudek Corrigan
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    May 11th 2023, 10:59 AM

    Irish song is chosen first by limited few within RTE and then Friday night late late show audience, which wouldn’t exactly be the prime target audience of the Eurovision…

    Balkan countries are building entire, standalone shows around their selections, with amazing production value and engagement. It’s essentially a Eurovision contest on a national level.

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    Mute Lydia McLoughlin
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    May 10th 2023, 11:09 PM

    The original voting system was the fairest. Once everyone in the country got a chance to vote up to 10 times each at a modest cost fairness went out the window and greed barged in.

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    Mute Brendan O'Connell
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    May 10th 2023, 10:41 PM

    Move on from this rubbish, way more important issues to be fixed.

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    May 10th 2023, 11:11 PM

    Maybe pay to get in automatically like other countries do?

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    May 11th 2023, 12:49 PM

    It’s become a very lavish stage show now rather than a song contest . Riverdance was meant to be just an interval entertainment all those years ago ,but as.we know completely eclipsed the song on stage .Maybe that’s the clue to the future . Go big or go home they say but honestly is it any way to squander money .

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    May 11th 2023, 3:42 PM

    I’m going to write our winner for next year, wish me luck guys!

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    May 10th 2023, 5:11 PM

    Will the Eurovision ever forgive us for insulting them by sending a Turkey to represent us.

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    May 11th 2023, 2:04 PM

    Like the Late, Late it’s time to let the eurovision song contest die a peaceful death

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