Advertisement

We need your help now

Support from readers like you keeps The Journal open.

You are visiting us because we have something you value. Independent, unbiased news that tells the truth. Advertising revenue goes some way to support our mission, but this year it has not been enough.

If you've seen value in our reporting, please contribute what you can, so we can continue to produce accurate and meaningful journalism. For everyone who needs it.

More places are encouraging phone-free zones Alamy Stock Photo

Are you in favour of phone-free pubs?

Could you go without your phone for one evening?

O’SHO PUB IN Cork is hosting a phone-free night, requiring customers to place their phones in lockable bags for two hours.

The decision to restrict devices was discussed on Today with Claire Byrne yesterday morning with many listeners expressing support for the measure.

Pubs are not the first to implement phone-free zones. Some musicians and comedians such  have previously asked their audiences to place their phones in lock-up pouches . 

So today we’re asking: Are you in favour of phone-free pubs?


Poll Results:

Yes, it's a great idea (6003)
No, I need my phone when I am out (2215)
Unsure, I like the idea but don't know if I could do it (998)

Readers like you are keeping these stories free for everyone...
A mix of advertising and supporting contributions helps keep paywalls away from valuable information like this article. Over 5,000 readers like you have already stepped up and support us with a monthly payment or a once-off donation.

Close
65 Comments
This is YOUR comments community. Stay civil, stay constructive, stay on topic. Please familiarise yourself with our comments policy here before taking part.
Leave a Comment
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Jeff behan
    Favourite Jeff behan
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 2:19 PM

    I think it’s very important that a doctor tells you’ve got a food allergy
    A trained medical doctor !
    Not some health shop or self diagnosed
    Food intolerance website

    138
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Carina Clarke
    Favourite Carina Clarke
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 3:37 PM

    Jeff if I waited for a doctor to tell me what was wrong I’d be dead by now. Doctors treat blood tests not people. I went to an excellent nutritionist who treated me and despite being dog sick with anything I ate or drank managed to get me back to a place where once it’s gluten free I’m fine. It took nearly 2 years hard work and I have to be careful but I’m healthy.

    46
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute David Cullen
    Favourite David Cullen
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 1:36 PM

    You should mention allergies when booking your table you’ll find there is no fuss rather than assuming everybody should be knowable about your allergy and your specific requirements. Then at least you know before you go

    115
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Catherine Sims
    Favourite Catherine Sims
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 4:35 PM

    We always do and often it makes no difference at all sorry to say. We don’t expect everyone to be knowledgable about our specific requirements but Ireland has a very high incidence of Coeliac disease as it’s more common in Irish people and people of Irish decent. The point I am making us that some restaurants claim to cater for people with coeliac disease ( which is an auto immune disease ) . I don’t think it’s too much to assume they have some level if knowledge is that case . Often though cross contamination is the main issue and when you are really sick because someone used the wrong serving spoon it’s pretty easy to be annoyed.

    46
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Catherine Sims
    Favourite Catherine Sims
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 12:47 PM

    My son is Coeliac and lactose intolerant . Eating out is a nightmare. Listing ingredients is great but staff need educating on cross contamination too. My poor son has ended up very ill because of so called gluten free options that clearly got contaminated from other foods. I just don’t eat out with him now. It’s safer .

    107
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Helen Farrell
    Favourite Helen Farrell
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 1:27 PM

    Catherine I understand – I’ve Coeliac disease too, and even a crumb would make me very ill.
    Many restaurants do produce GF food, only for it to be cross-contaminated with gluten during serving; like using the same spoons to serve, or dropping crumbs on the GF meal.
    Things are improving though. There are a few fantastic places, but it depends where u are based.
    Believe it or not, Mcdonald’s is good (I’ve a 6 year old!) with gluten clearly marked on the menu sheet- the underside of the sheet they put on each tray.
    Antoinette’s bakery in Kevin st, Dublin is a totally GF café. No chance of cross contamination.
    Da Mario’s in Celbridge is an amazing restaurant, extremely high awareness of Coeliac condition.
    For fish and chips, Beshoff’s, Mespil road can’t be beaten and they clean down according to advice from the Coeliac Society of Ireland.
    Even Starbucks have a delicious GF bap with ham and cheese, and you can ask for a wrapped piece of hazelnut & chocolate cake, or a wrapped chocolate brownie thus avoiding any cross contamination.

    60
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute George Grey
    Favourite George Grey
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 1:47 PM

    The problem with restaurants and especially the smaller ones is not just a lack of knowledge on the part of the front of house staff but also the kitchen. In many smaller places the food comes from places like Musgrave and Palladium Foods and is pre par pared and frozen. Other than following the basic cooking instructions the chefs knowledge of the product is limited. HSE at the moment ask only they be trained in hygiene. Ask someone in an Italian, Chinese, Thai or burger joint about lactose or sulphur s and they would have to admit to not understanding what they have in their kitchen. What are the constituents of mustard and ketchup is not part of general training. But let me be clear here, I am not blaming the small operator, they work long hours, pay exorbitant taxes and – especially these days – get very little return for the labour invested. I think the HSE have to get real here and demand and offer (free) training for these outlets and large food firms should produce notices about their products which should be posted in public. Staff should be trained of course, but the nature of this workplace means a high turnover of personal which managers and owners find hard to keep apace with. Share the burden and people will quickly adapt.

    38
    See 2 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Carina Clarke
    Favourite Carina Clarke
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 3:29 PM

    I find restaurants biggest downfall is gf dessert. You ask for the icecream which they assure you is gluten free. Then they stick a wafer in it. So it has to be sent back and then they send out the same dish with the wafer removed. And look at you like you’ve ten heads when you tell them that it’s contaminated and you can’t eat it.

    45
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Catherine Sims
    Favourite Catherine Sims
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 3:37 PM

    We find McDonalds fantastic too but he is a bit fed up of that being his only eating out treat but it’s food you only give in moderation really. There is maybe one or two good places down here in the mid west but our recent holiday around Co Clare was a disaster . The only place he didn’t get sick after was one place that didn’t normally do GF but sorted something for him and it’s clear they took great care and he was fine after it. We have soup cafe in Limerick which are fantastic I have to say .

    19
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute David Burke
    Favourite David Burke
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 1:51 PM

    What a massive entitled whine.

    There are kids who are allergic to almost everything so the staff just aren’t going to be knowledgeable about every single allergen . They have a dozen tables and just deliver the food. They don’t know the makeup of every constantly changing dish.

    Just a quick ring ahead that day to the restaurant and there wouldn’t be an issue. Either the maitre d could give them all the details beforehand or one of the staff would be ready when they arrived.

    But leaving it till you get there to talk to busy staff at peak times is just entitled.

    I worked with kids who were allergic to legumes, grains, nuts, dairy and everything you can think off. The parents called ahead, sent binders with info, dropped down beforehand and met with the staff. They had it down pat and it wasn’t an issue because of it.

    103
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Kenny McGrath
    Favourite Kenny McGrath
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 12:38 PM

    You don’t need it all on the main menu. You just have 1 or 2 separate menus that staff can give to customers when asked with the ingredients if everything on it. Let’s be honest they’ll still put that it may have been contaminated somewhere else. I make food and bring it to restaurants with me for my little one. Anaphylaxis is not something I want to see occur again

    71
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Daddy De La Noche
    Favourite Daddy De La Noche
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 2:05 PM

    I never eat out in restaurants because of this, imagine explaining to someone, no grains(wheat,rye,barely,rice,corn etc) , no dairy and no white sugar? It’s better to stay at home and cook and make deserts that I know exactly what is in them.

    47
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute David Burke
    Favourite David Burke
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 2:21 PM

    There are some restaurants which can cater too such needs in Ireland. Not many but they are there.

    15
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Sarah Clifford
    Favourite Sarah Clifford
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 3:09 PM

    Its very difficult to find a restaurant that has grain free options on the menu and for this reason I dont eat out

    13
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Andrew Haire
    Favourite Andrew Haire
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 12:30 PM

    Mustn’t have allergies so. I’d everything in the picture with relish .

    40
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Thomas Maher
    Favourite Thomas Maher
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 12:40 PM

    Seriously!! Thumbs down for not having an allergy. That’s a good thing.

    25
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Andrew Haire
    Favourite Andrew Haire
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 1:16 PM

    It must be because people with allergies are self obsessed.

    54
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Mike Clinton
    Favourite Mike Clinton
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 12:46 PM

    The sooner the chefs stop piling salt & sugar into food the better.
    It’s almost impossible to get food that isn’t drowned or cooked in the stuff.

    38
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Eoin Costello
    Favourite Eoin Costello
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 2:12 PM

    I’m allergic to chocolate. Its a nightmare getting desserts. Even last week I asked for vanilla ice cream and explained I’m allergic to chocolate. And out it came with a chocolate wafer on it. But worse still I got married last year and from day one told the hotel I was allergic and went thru the whole story. The day before I went thru it again and was made sure that the kitchen would be chocolate free. They wrote congratulations in chocolate on my dessert plate. Hiw bloody stupid. Some places just dont care about allergies.

    35
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute David Burke
    Favourite David Burke
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 2:26 PM

    That’s pretty bad, no excuse when they are informed beforehand.

    32
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Lydia Morgan
    Favourite Lydia Morgan
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 3:13 PM

    What happens if you have chocolate then ? Have you been medically diagnosed by a doctor as having an actual allergy and not just an intolerance ?

    38
    See 2 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Eoin Costello
    Favourite Eoin Costello
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 7:24 PM

    Yeah diagnosed and all. Its an allergy not just intolerance. Took a few yrs to diagnose properly after tons of tests.

    9
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute David Andrews
    Favourite David Andrews
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 9:53 PM

    That’s a great story Eoin… really breathtaking. Now, hopefully you’ve learnt that the world doesn’t revolve around you and if you’re unfortunate enough to be allergic to chocolate, it is your responsibility to ensure you don’t eat it. Not everyone else’s. But are the movie rights still available for that masterpiece you just told us?

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Siobhán Mc Kenna
    Favourite Siobhán Mc Kenna
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 1:27 PM

    I have food allergies so understand the fear. Must be extra hard with kids. Might be difficult for some – but I think i’d check out the menu online beforehand and an Italian restaurant in Ireland would not be somewhere I’d choose hoping for diary allergy free food. They generally use a lot of cream & dairy.
    It will be great to have more awareness and education for staff soon. Much needed.

    35
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute David Burke
    Favourite David Burke
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 2:24 PM

    She just wants to complain.

    Most eastern food has little no dairy in it. Thai or Chinese or Vietnamese and it’s very unlikely to have dairy.

    Or just call ahead and ask so they have time to check. Instead of waiting till the worst possible time.

    59
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Aoife McCarrick
    Favourite Aoife McCarrick
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 12:36 PM

    I have issues with low fat milk as it causes me to have a very upset stomach – a nightmare when eating out. It would be great if the glycemic index and carbohydrate details were listed for food as well for diabetic’s. I think that a lot of people are alergic to something and agree that we should at least know what is in our food if eating out.

    29
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Donal O'Dwyer
    Favourite Donal O'Dwyer
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 6:01 PM

    Why should waiting staff have to be trained and knowledgable in your particular issue? These people are generally paid terribly low wages and are working there as a stop-gap, not as food prep and allergy specialists. The waiting staff don’t cook the food. I suggest that the next time you want to eat out, call ahead and ask to speak to the chief who prepares the food so that they can tell you directly and save you making a wasted journey.

    26
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Petra Madill
    Favourite Petra Madill
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 1:54 PM

    I’m sure there are actually a lot of people out there who are not allergic but are quite intolerant to certain food groups or types. So this new rule helps a lot of people.
    I’m very intolerant of fish and other seafoods. It’s not as hard to avoid that but I’m – to a lesser extent – intolerant of dairy and gluten. Thankfully I have the choice as to whether or not I want to feel crap (unlike people who are actually allergic) sometimes the pizza or huge slab of cheesecake is worth it.

    25
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Andrew Haire
    Favourite Andrew Haire
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 2:26 PM

    Most people who think they have allergies are in fact food intolerant , of which I have myself. Food allergies are quite rare.

    55
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Susan Cremin
    Favourite Susan Cremin
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 1:05 PM

    I am a fish lover however I’m intolerant to Molluscs they make me violently sick very quickly but thankfully I don’t go into anphalactic shock at all. I find most restaurants are quite helpful but almost always they refer to the chef which makes me feel a lot safer. I’ve worked in kitchens and ingredients can be changed during the day if they run out of something its always safer to get the chefs ok I think.

    24
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Sinead Cronin
    Favourite Sinead Cronin
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 7:13 PM

    Food allergies & intolerances are no joke. My daughter has a nut allergy & the amount of times people have suggested she’s being fussy or insinuated that we’re over protective is mind boggling. Parties are a nightmare, we bring a lunchbox of food & safe cake to avoid her sitting watching others enjoy treats.

    I have an intolerance to wheat- so yes if I get wheat in a meal out I wont seem ill at the time, however a week of bloating, pain & semi-religious experiences in the bathroom mean I am adamant I dont want any wheat!

    Waiting staff ARE responsible for food too. I have worked in catering in the past & I was trained to represent the chef & ethos of the restaurant in front of the customer. Professional front of house staff can make or break a customers experience. In the case of allergies the stakes are higher than usual.

    23
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Accord Moan Eye
    Favourite Accord Moan Eye
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 5:25 PM

    What kind of wait staff don’t understand the word ‘dairy’? Sounds a bit far fetched; I have a dairy and wheat intolerance and I have found wait staff to be most helpful and accommodating in several restaurants around the country.

    20
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Nope
    Favourite Nope
    Report
    Aug 5th 2014, 5:26 PM

    Not that far fetched. Asked a server if there was any dairy in one of the potato dishes on offer and was told yes so other creamy potatoes were loaded onto my plate and when I said ‘oh no I can’t eat those’ I was told ‘oh you’re fine, it’s just cream’ :-/

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Zoë Ní Cholmáin
    Favourite Zoë Ní Cholmáin
    Report
    Aug 5th 2014, 6:36 PM

    I’ve worked as a waitress for years and most staff aren’t trained to understand this, I’ve been met with blank stares when requesting dairy free dishes before too. Not so far fetched actually.

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute damian
    Favourite damian
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 5:57 PM

    I have lactose intolerance. It’s not the worst of the food intolerances, but you do have to ask, as dairy is used in a lot of dishes…

    17
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Sayre Shallow
    Favourite Sayre Shallow
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 4:28 PM

    Anapen or Epipen should be in every restaurant and every flight. Just in case your waitress or chef doesn’t understand your allergy.
    It is useful to have a card with all your info on it so the waitress can give one to the chef . That way it is clear what you can’t have.
    Look after yourself. You can’t expect other people to .

    16
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Mark Ibbotson
    Favourite Mark Ibbotson
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 6:59 PM

    I wish I was able to express myself better because reading this I got very annoyed. I think its something to do with how petty all this is. Is there not enough important things going on in the world at the moment you could use your column inches on?

    14
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Fiona O Brien
    Favourite Fiona O Brien
    Report
    Aug 3rd 2014, 6:39 PM

    Im am very happy about this. I am lactoce intolerant and the waiters often get it wrong or there is hidden dairy in sauces which leads to me being ill. I eat without worry now

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Clíodhna Cullen
    Favourite Clíodhna Cullen
    Report
    Aug 4th 2014, 1:11 AM

    I had take away this evening from Bombay Pantry and the menu was very useful as they had detailed allergy info in symbols beside the names of the dishes. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

    Also as somebody who worked as a waitress in my late teens, I always took customers with allergies seriously. While in some cases I may have been sure of the content of dishes, I always checked with the head chef and informed the customer accordingly. As a paying customer, you deserve a certain standard of service from the waiter/waitress, inclusive of their knowledge of the menu (and bothering to check with the chef if neccessary).

    7
Submit a report
Please help us understand how this comment violates our community guidelines.
Thank you for the feedback
Your feedback has been sent to our team for review.

Leave a commentcancel

 
JournalTv
News in 60 seconds