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What has St Stephen's Green got to do with the Guinnesses. Quite a lot actually... Photocall Ireland

What did the Guinness family ever do for us?

Forget Arthur’s Day – National Philanthropy Day will hear about the real legacy left behind by some members of the brewing family: a cathedral, a library… and bacteria get a look in too.

ARTHUR’S DAY? Perish the thought. The real legacy of the Guinness family – apart from leading to Ireland being eternally associated with a particular brand of stout – is not a faux-cultural day in September. (Although they should be given credit for the ongoing work of the Guinness Social Entrepreneur Fund)

Among some of the real initiatives taken by Arthur Guinness (grandson of the Arthur who founded St James’s Gate in 1759) in the late 19th and early 20th century included employee welfare schemes and the provision of public recreation areas.

While the brand is now owned by Diageo, the group will remember the Guinness family in a free lecture at the Storehouse next Thursday, which happens to be National Philanthropy Day. (Pre-booking is essential for the one-hour talk – email storehouseeventsadmin@diageo.com).

Evidence of the family’s philanthropic works is still visible around Dublin. The biggest givers were brothers Arthur and Edward Guinness, sons of Benjamin Guinness, and grandsons of the ‘original’ Arthur Guinness who set up the brewery at St James’s Gate in 1759.

Check how many of these you were aware of…

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  • Restored St Patrick's Cathedral

    Benjamin Guinness, son of St James's Gate brewery founder Arthur, stumped up £150,000 for the restoration of the cathedral in Dublin between 1860 and 1865. Pic: Mark Stedman/Photocall Ireland
  • Donated Iveagh House to the State

    Rupert Guinness, grandson of Benjamin and son of Edward, gave away what was once Benjamin's home, Iveagh House at 80 St Stephen's Green, to the Government in 1939 - it houses the Department of Foreign Affairs. He gave the 'back garden' - now the Iveagh Gardens off Harcourt Street - to UCD in 1908 and now they are a public park. Pic: Wikicommons
  • Helped set up the Lister Institute for Preventive Medicine

    The same Rupert persuaded his father Edward to give a grant to help set up the Lister Institute for Preventive Medicine in England. Rupert was a politician and agriculturalist who also helped push forward testing of milk and elimination of TB-infected cattle. Image: Alexander Raths/Shutterstock
  • Established Iveagh Trust and buildings

    Edward, Rupert's father, was known also as Lord Iveagh - buildings in the centre of Dublin which were built to house poorer residents of the city in more modern accommodation, still bear his name, and the Iveagh Trust still operates today. (It also runs the Iveagh Hostel for homeless men). Pic: William Murphy/Flickr
  • Made St Stephen's Green a public park

    Arthur Guinness, brother of Edward and grandson of 'James's Gate' Arthur, bought St Stephen's Green in 1876, had it landscaped and made it a public park. Pic: Sasko Lazarov/Photocall Ireland
  • Restored Ireland's first public library

    The same Arthur also paid for the restoration of Ireland's first public library, Marsh's Library in St Patrick's Close, which dated back to 1701. Pic: Julien Behal/PA Wire
  • Built extension to Coombe Hospital

    The Coombe maternity hospital in Dublin only moved to its present location in 1967, but its previous incarnation at Long Lane was the beneficiary of Guinness money with which a dispensary block was built. Pic: Nejron Photo/Shutterstock
  • Innovating in worker welfare

    A doctor takes an X-ray of a patient in a Guinness employee medical scheme. Employees at the St James's Gate brewery benefited from schemes that were not typical of the time - by the 1920s there were pension schemes, free concerts and sports, education, subsidised meals medical and dental care... and two free pints of Guinness. Pic: Guinness Archive/Diageo Ireland
  • Preservation of Muckross House

    When Arthur Guinness (he of Stephen's Green fame) bought Muckross House in Killarney in 1899, he went about preserving the house and protecting the land around it, which would turn out to be a future blessing to tourism in the Kerry area. Pic: Eamonn Farrell/TheJournal.ie

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:31 PM

    This is a successful company that has built other parks in a number of countries. Don’t think there’s any danger of them collapsing like that other Celtic Tiger pipedream.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:10 PM

    This type of parc is hugely popular in europe…france in particular…this is long overdue.they provide huge employment for a region.once the access roads arent causing problems for the locals then its all good.

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    Jul 27th 2016, 10:43 AM

    Might stop the steady decline in house prices too…..

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:28 PM

    Mr Power sounds like Grandpa Simpson…

    Dear Mr President there are too many states these days please eliminate three. P.S I am not a crackpot.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 1:30 PM

    I’ll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize missourah!

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:40 PM

    This is why we can’t have nice things in this country, the ‘Not in my back garden’ mentality still as strong as ever.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:56 PM

    Not only that but you have clowns who don’t even live in the area that can object on multiple daft reasons.
    A Dublin man living in Dublin, once stopped a building being built at Knock Airport.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:03 PM

    Probably works for the daa. Those boyos try to destroy everything happening at other Airports.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:31 PM

    Dauid, some of the objections are for changes rather than to the whole scheme and are well founded.

    Some of them, as we see, are crackpots.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:54 PM

    Describing this as a ‘giant water park’ is a little misleading. Not exactly water slides and log flumes…

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:39 PM

    Some may have to take one of the jobs on offer……just saying!

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:26 PM

    Something, something, Gift Horse, Mouth….

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    Mar 30th 2016, 3:29 PM

    We have a great country but it needs a roof. Now we have it.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 10:26 PM

    If I lived in the area I wouldn’t be disturbed by 2500 people per week arriving. I would be looking at setting up some business that would relieve these 2500 people of some of their holiday money.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:55 PM

    What do we have to do in this country to have somewhere to go other than pubs. Every county should have one.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 1:02 PM

    Something bringing employment to the area and some people cannot open their eyes to the benefits.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 7:38 PM

    Because they want to stay on state benefits

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:54 PM

    “There’s no pleasing some people.”

    “That’s just what Jesus said sir.”

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:54 PM

    Centre Parcs?

    Centre parcs is cool. Love the Centre parcs.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:19 PM

    Crazy people lodging crazy planning objections is hardly news

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    Mar 30th 2016, 3:10 PM

    Some of them will be afrid they will be offered a job !

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    Mar 30th 2016, 4:25 PM

    This is absolutely fantastic for the area. Never mind the hundreds of jobs it will create, it’ll be great for the businesses in the wider area too. The ones in the uk offer off-site activities like quad biking, go karting, laser and clay pigeon shooting, that kind of thing, and hotels restaurants and b&bs in the area get a lot of business from it too – when we go we usually stay overnight somewhere the night before our stay starts, so we get there nice and early on our first day to make the most of it. You also get people shopping in the area before they go (the parcmarket isn’t the cheapest place to shop) or going out for a meal in one of the local restaurants even during their stay.

    Also, it isn’t a water park. There is a swimming pool, but that’s a small part of what Center Parcs is

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    Mar 30th 2016, 1:32 PM

    1750 jobs, at least 1500 of them will be taken by foreigners.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 1:40 PM

    by “foreigners”, do you mean Dublin? Besides, nothing wrong with an auld “mix of the gene-pool”

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:00 PM

    Eamonn…you may be right..i suspect quite a few local young adults have emigrated from this area and the jobs eventually on offer at this parc wont be viable enough to enable them to come home and take them….so its likely that immigrants will take them….many of the employees in these type of parcs actually stay in accomodation provided.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:33 PM

    - 1750 jobs, at least 1500 of them will be taken by foreigners.

    1750 jobs all of which will be filled by people who apply for them.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:49 PM

    @Eammon

    So?

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    Mar 30th 2016, 3:10 PM

    Coming from a country that exports a fair amount of people per year since time immemorial, I think your statement is a bit rich Eamo

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    Mar 30th 2016, 5:03 PM

    Nope, no accomodation for staff on site, the space is too valuable

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    Mar 30th 2016, 7:45 PM

    By ‘foreigners’ do you mean people who have a good attitude and are not work-shy?

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    Mar 30th 2016, 7:57 PM

    John..ive been to several similar parks in europe and ive come across a number of young irish working as lifeguards,entertainers etc for the summer..i assume when this park open a lot of the staff will be french,italian etc….a fantastic adventure..and i dont think bad attitude and work shy will be tolerated..

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    Mar 30th 2016, 8:34 PM

    @Matt Connolly,
    Matt you are some illiterate, if you think a foreigner is someone from Dublin.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 8:36 PM

    @John Mulligan,
    No. Look the word up in a dictionary.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 8:38 PM

    @Peter Fechter,
    They won’t be French or Italian.
    They’ll be Eastern Europeans working for subsistence wages.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 9:54 PM

    @Phil Blanc,
    They will get the jobs because they will undercut the Irish workers.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 4:58 PM

    Jesus, longford needs something, it’s a hole.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 5:26 PM

    Rachel..it has diversity.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 5:27 PM

    lol…. wow, remind me to put longford on list of places to go for my summer holidays then! im humbled.

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    Mute Matt Connolly
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    Mar 30th 2016, 1:25 PM

    Anyone else thinking “league of gentlemen”?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meF7NmfnXZ0

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    Mar 30th 2016, 1:56 PM

    That artist’s impression needs a roof and four walls with heating enclosing that pool!

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:26 PM

    Lol.
    Better if it was built in Wexford.
    The sunny south east..

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    Mute gus sheridan
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    Jul 27th 2016, 10:45 AM

    Stuff Wexford! You have enough attractions, Longford is sadly in need of something like this!

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    Mar 30th 2016, 3:18 PM

    That’s a lot of jobs. I doubt its that many at all. Seasonal work and part time included won’t hit that figure.

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    Mute Adam Gill
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    Mar 30th 2016, 4:32 PM

    Have you ever been to Center Parcs? They employ a ridiculous number of people. Bear in mind the number of businesses that will be opening – it isn’t just Center Parcs, (think a 1000 room hotel with all associated staff) it’s the half dozen or more restaurants, the bars, the cafes, Starbucks, shops, each with their own full complement of staff. Then the dozens of lifeguards, sports staff, coaches etc, the groundskeeper guys, housekeeping. I think you’re underestimating the impact this will have on jobs in the area

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    Mar 30th 2016, 5:28 PM

    Adam…..it might even offer some competition for Trabolgan…..

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    Mar 30th 2016, 10:09 PM

    Oh I wouldnt go that far… I mean, it’s good n all, but, like, Trabolgan man!

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    Mute gus sheridan
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    Jul 27th 2016, 10:46 AM

    Its all year round jobs lads!

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    Mute Ben Frost
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    Jul 27th 2016, 1:26 PM

    Stop commenting directly to old articles Gus.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 6:03 PM

    And some people wonder why there is nothing in the country

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    Mar 30th 2016, 4:27 PM

    This is absolutely fantastic for the area. Never mind the hundreds of jobs it will create, it’ll be great for the businesses in the wider area too. The ones in the uk offer off-site activities like quad biking, go karting, laser and clay pigeon shooting, that kind of thing, and hotels restaurants and b&bs in the area get a lot of business from it too – when we go we usually stay overnight somewhere the night before our stay starts, so we get there nice and early on our first day to make the most of it. You also get people shopping in the area before they go (the parcmarket isn’t the cheapest place to shop) or going out for a meal in one of the local restaurants even during their stay.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 5:01 PM

    Sorry for the duplicate! Didn’t think it had posted :/

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    Mar 30th 2016, 5:55 PM

    Do centerparcs allow locals to pay as you go?if so I’m happy…

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    Mar 30th 2016, 8:34 PM

    Objectors probably the suits from Dublin 4

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    Mute gus sheridan
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    Jul 27th 2016, 10:41 AM

    Me Power, please tell my which village in the Longford area is missing you? If you dont return they will have to pick a NEW village idiot! You always get one nutter……

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    Jul 27th 2016, 10:41 AM

    Mr Power…….

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    Mar 31st 2016, 4:17 AM

    This is who is behind it:
    Blackstone Group
    After the subprime mortgage crisis, Blackstone Group LP has bought more than $5.5 billion single-family homes for rent, to be sold when the prices rise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blackstone_Group#Real_estate Still happy for it to go ahead? How many have had their homes repossessed here in Ireland? This crowd are sitting on homes waiting to make a killing when the prices rise.

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