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Fianna Fáil's Cathal Crowe during Gaza debate yesterday Oireachtas TV

Taoiseach didn't tell Fianna Fáil TD to correct claims British Army never shot Irish civilians

The Clare TD added that he had ‘studied history in college’ after making the remark.

TAOISEACH AND LEADER of Fianna Fáil Micheál Martin has said he did not direct a party TD to correct claims he made yesterday that the British Army never bombed or shot civilians in Ireland.

Clare TD Cathal Crowe this morning apologised “profusely” for the comments and corrected the Dáil record.

He made the original remark during a Labour motion calling for the Irish government to bring an emergency resolution to the UN General Assembly, calling out the blockade of humanitarian aid in Gaza.

Speaking during the debate, Crowe remarked that while the 7 October 2023 should be condemned, the Israeli state has since adopted an “indefensible eye-for-an-eye approach”.

“What is happening is not a war anymore; it is ethnic cleansing, genocide and, more recently, the weaponising of food,” said Crowe.

He then added: “The British army was a bad actor on this island for many centuries but even in the worst of days, when its cities were being bombed by the terror organisations of the IRA, it never retaliated by bombing and shooting the civilian population of Ireland.”

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Crowe added: “I, too, studied history in college. The Israeli people have a very tragic history of their own.  Looking at the CVs of several [Israeli] Cabinet ministers, they are children of survivors of the Holocaust.

“They should understand better than anyone what genocide, the loss of life, the weaponising of food and the killing of children involve. They do not.”

Reaction to comments overblown – Taoiseach

Speaking to reporters in Dublin, Taoiseach Micheál Martin said the reaction the Crowe’s comments during the motion’s debate were overblown, telling reporters he did not believe the remarks warranted so much attention.

The motion was co-signed by Sinn Féin, the Social Democrats, the Green Party and Independent TD Catherine Connolly, while the government did not oppose it.

Speaking later, Sinn Féin TD Aengus Ó Snodaigh called on Crowe to apologise for the remarks and to “correct the record” for his “false” and “appalling” remarks to the Dáil.

“I fear for what the schoolchildren he taught learned from this self-proclaimed ‘passionate historian’ if this is the level of ignorance and revisionism he displays as in elected office,” said Ó Snodaigh.

“In his attempt to rewrite history, Crowe is erasing the countless victims of British state violence in Ireland, North and South, victims and families who continue to fight for justice to this day.”

Ó Snodaigh remarked that the Troubles were “defined by the brutal murder of civilians by the British army, from the Ballymurphy massacre to Bloody Sunday”.

The Sinn Féin TD also pointed to the British forces opening fire on a GAA match in Croke Park on the Bloody Sunday of 1920, killing 14 people.

Ó Snodaigh also said that the British forces “went on to facilitate the bombings of 1974 which took the lives of people in Dublin and Monaghan”.

A total of 34 people, including a full-term unborn child, were killed in three no-warning bombs across Dublin and Monaghan on 17 May, 1974.

Operation Denton is investigating the activities of the Glenanne gang, which is suspected of being involved in the bombings.

Head of the investigation Iain Livingstone told RTÉ last year that there was collusion between the gang and the British security services. This review was expected to be published by the end of April but is now due to be published at the end of October.  

“Crowe made these comments in the context of the ‘many centuries’ of British activity in Ireland, apparently unaware of Oliver Cromwell and the thousands massacred in Drogheda and across the country,” said Ó Snodaigh.

“The historic parallels between British actions here and Israel’s actions in Palestine might be difficult to understand for someone whose party seems comfortable celebrating William the Conqueror.

“It’s probably time, however, for Fianna Fáil to drop the title of ‘Republican Party’ if they are unaware of the British ever shooting civilians in Ireland.”

Ó Snodaigh called on Crowe to make a “full apology to the victims of British violence specifically and to the wider Irish public”.

“I would also invite him to actually take up the cause of Seán Brown and all those killed by British forces and use his position to demand justice, rather than erasing their truth.”

Séan Brown, 61, the then chairman of Wolfe Tones GAA Club in the Co Derry town of Bellaghy, was ambushed, kidnapped and murdered by loyalist paramilitaries as he locked the gates of the club in May 1997.

No-one has ever been convicted of his killing. It was also alleged in court that surveillance of a suspect in the murder was temporarily stopped on the evening of the killing, only to resume again the following morning.

Preliminary inquest proceedings last year heard that in excess of 25 people had been linked by intelligence to the murder, including several state agents.

An Taoiseach today said that there is “no need to be re-fighting old wars”. While he accepted that the British state were behind many attacks on Irish civilians in the past, Martin highlighted equally brutal attacks by the IRA on the population also.

Asked if he recommended Crowe apologise, Martin said: “Certainly not.”

“I think Cathal’s views on the north are well-known. Cathal’s views – he studied history himself – are well-known. He doesn’t been to be correcting things, as far as I’m concerned.”

Apology

Addressing the Dáil this morning, Crowe said he wished to correct the record and “also apologise profusely to anyone that may have been offended” by his comments. 

“I was speaking without a scripted speech, and instead, using a series of bullet points,” he said.

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Crowe said he wanted to make the point that “brutal, bad and all as the British armed forces have been on this island for a very long time, they never resorted to sending over the Royal Air Force tanks and missiles to pummel Irish cities.”

“Regrettably, speaking largely off the cuff, I clumsily and wrongly stated, and I quote, ‘they never retaliated by bombing or shooting the civilian population of Ireland’, unquote,” Crowe said.

“Let me be very clear, it was not my intention to say this, and I didn’t realise how woeful all of that sounded until late last night when I received the transcript of what I had actually said.

“It was a genuine slip-up on my part, but it was wrong, and I wish to today unequivocally and profusely apologise. I studied history in college and taught history in the classroom. I am a Republican, and many of you will remember the boycott that I led in early 2020 to oppose a planned state commemoration of the Royal Irish Constabulary. 

“I know that the British armed forces have been involved in many heinous attacks on Irish people, historically,” he said.

Crowe said his own family also suffered at the hands of the British military in the past and said that he wanted to apologise to victims of “British State terror and atrocities”. 

He said he also wanted to apologise to people who care about Irish history and accuracy.

“I want to see a United Ireland, and I yearn for a day that there are no more British military personnel on this island,” he said.

“The next time that I speak on any of these matters, I’ll use a better prepared speaking note that accurately conveys what I wish to say, rather than speaking off the cuff and causing unintentional hurt and offence.”

With reporting from Jane Matthews and Muiris Ó Cearbhaill

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    Aug 25th 2016, 8:10 AM

    Some good news for a change..

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    Aug 25th 2016, 8:22 AM

    FARCing great news.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 8:43 AM

    “Obama vowed continuing support for Colombia, a key ally in the US war on drugs.”
    Really Mr. Obama? Maybe have a look at your own security agencies who are up to their bloody elbows in the drugs business in Columbia and many other countries for over 70 years:

    “The litany of this is a long one, with the OSS (the predecessor of the CIA) forming a strategic alliance with the Sicilian and Corsican mafia after World War II to prevent possible communist uprisings in Europe and to smash left-wing unions; the CIA’s assisting the Kuomintang with its opium trafficking operations to fund their joint anti-communist efforts in Asia; the CIA’s actual trafficking of opium out of Laos, Burma and Thailand to help fund the U.S. counter-insurgency effort in South East Asia; the CIA’s support of “the chief smugglers of Afghan opium, the anti-communist Mujahedin rebels in Afghanistan” in their efforts against the pro-Soviet government in Afghanistan, leading ultimately to Afghanistan becoming one of the largest opium suppliers in the world (a status only briefly interrupted when it was under Taliban control); and the Reagan Administration’s funding the Nicaraguan Contras (after such funding was outlawed by Congress) by, among other things, cocaine smuggling operations.
    The book quotes the United Nations Drug Control Program (UNDCP) which concludes that, today, “the biggest heroin and cocaine trading institutions in the world are the militaries of Burma, Pakistan, Mexico, Peru and Colombia – ‘all armed and trained by U.S. military intelligence in the name of anti-drug efforts.’” In the case of Colombia, while the U.S., to justify its massive counterinsurgency program, vilifies the FARC guerillas as “narco-terrorists,” this title is more befitting of the Colombian state and its paramilitary allies.”

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/02/16/the-u-s-war-for-drugs-of-terror-in-colombia/

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    Aug 25th 2016, 8:56 AM

    Good news all the same though Wally.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 9:12 AM

    Good copy/paste job Billy. Wouldn’t call counterpunch a credible source though.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 9:32 AM

    Can you identify anything incorrect in the article Tadhg?

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    Mute Pádraig Ó Raghaill
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    Aug 25th 2016, 10:10 AM

    The first rule of confirmation bias – go after the source

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    Aug 25th 2016, 11:28 AM

    Billy, I can see something incorrect! – YOU!!

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    Mute Billy Mooney
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    Aug 25th 2016, 12:07 PM

    So no dispute as to the content of the article then Tadhg? Maybe you’d prefer the Nation Security Archive blow which also outlines the U.S involvement in drug trafficking:

    “This electronic briefing book is compiled from declassified documents obtained by the National Security Archive, including the notebooks kept by NSC aide and Iran-contra figure Oliver North, electronic mail messages written by high-ranking Reagan administration officials, memos detailing the contra war effort, and FBI and DEA reports. The documents demonstrate official knowledge of drug operations, and collaboration with and protection of known drug traffickers. Court and hearing transcripts are also included.”

    http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/index.html

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    Aug 25th 2016, 12:29 PM

    Evidently Ronald hadn’t heard about his wife Nancy’s “Just Say No” to drugs mass media campaign during the 80s.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 1:29 PM

    @ Billy Mooney : North and South Korea are still technically at war, as they only signed an armistice, not a peace treaty. So that’s a longer war than the Farc one.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 2:10 PM

    I won’t quibble with you over inconsequential technicalities Niall. When I asked Tadhg if there was anything incorrect in the article I was referring to the linked counterpunch piece.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 3:12 PM

    @ Billy Mooney: no problemo. I was referring to the Journal’s abysmal record of exaggeration, lousy sub-editing, or simply getting things wrong.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 8:50 AM

    This seems like great news, but in reality its a Trojan horse. The Farc were established as a Communist movement, they formed the guerrilla because Colombians voted in favour of Democracy and the Communist candidates never got enough votes. They were more popular in Rural Colombia, but still not popular enough to win an election. So what do you do when you are a stubborn Communist who always looses an election? Form a Guerrilla. These people are murderers, kidnappers, drug dealers. All with the pretexts of founding “the cause” Colombia gained the fame they have is thanks to Guerrillas, they enabled drug cartels. They made travelling by land impossible, because they would engage in kidnappings even having their own checkpoints in the roads, they had total control of rural Colombia and their roads. People up to date travel mostly by air within Colombia not to get kidnapped.

    Many of the people who ruined Venezuela with Chavez and Maduro are Ex-Guerrilla members. They had the most senior positions in cabinet.

    What will happen in Colombia its a What happened in Venezuela, but on Steroids. These assassins will now be free and be able to run for office and fool the vulnerable poor population with false promises just like Chavez did in the 1990s, Chavez even said that “He hates Socialism, he is pro free market and these Marxists ideas are outdated” And people bought it.

    Don;t get me wrong, I am anti savage capitalism and anti oligarchy, this is the other extreme. But I dare any die hard leftists Marxists pro Cuba, Pro venezuela, Pro Communism to have the b.alls to come here and defend Farcs action, to defend Communism, Cuba and Venezuela without even been there for themselves. I dare someone who has been in in these places and say that Communism is the answer.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 1:41 PM

    Ok Uribe.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 3:47 PM

    Very good analysis Juan. You seem to know what you’re talking about.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 5:55 PM

    FARC didn’t start this conflict, the army’s attacks on civilians did.

    Colombia wasn’t a democracy- it was an oligarchy where only two parties could run for office until the early 90s. It was a ‘perfect dictatorship’ like Mexico, in the hands of an elite.

    What happened every time FARC tried to demobilize? It’s members were assasinated. Google the genocide of the Union Patriotica.

    Worried that poor people will vote for FARC? That speaks volumes about the country- the poor are so oppressed that they might vote for the hated guerrilla over the mainstream parties.

    I’m no supporter of FARC but people need to stop acting as though they’re solely responsible for the war.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 8:50 AM

    The United Nations are actually doing something useful! I need to lie down.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 8:39 AM

    That’s good news ☮

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    Aug 25th 2016, 10:09 AM

    Fantastic news for the SF bird watching society. They can now watch some birds in Colombia without coming under undue suspicion.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 8:17 AM

    Congratulations to Eamon Gilmore as well.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 8:15 AM

    What about the punishment for using child soldiers by farc.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 8:34 AM

    Usually govt propaganda, helps to deprive your opponents of legitimacy

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    Aug 25th 2016, 5:56 PM

    The army force poor Colombians who can’t bribe their way out to fight on the frontline. FARC aren’t alone in forced recruitment.

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    Aug 25th 2016, 1:37 PM

    No more Sinn Fein/ IRA training trips. Whatever will they do with their free time?

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    Aug 25th 2016, 2:20 PM

    All cause of the banana war started by the US and EU

    http://www.triplepundit.com/2015/01/bananas-colombian-civil-war-u-s-supreme-court/

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