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The Daily PollACCORDING TO AN Irish Independent report today, Health Minister James Reilly is considering a so-called sugar tax on soft drinks.
The Government believes that the excise could double job as a revenue raising mechanism, as well as a measure to curb obesity.
Fizzy drinks are already subject to a 23 per cent VAT rate and any new tax could see the price of a bottle of Cola increase by 20 cent. At the beginning of the year, France introduced a similar duty and expects it to raise an extra €120 in revenue but it angered soft drinks giant Coca-Cola, who pulled out of a planned multi-million-euro investment.
Do you think it is a good idea? Should Ireland introduce a sugar tax?
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They’re doing it backwards, how about the push to make healthier foods cheaper instead?
Your right it’s cheaper to buy yellow food in boxes absolute crap food in tesco than it is to buy your vegetables fish, meat dairy it’s cheaper to buy a party box of spring rolls and a large pizza local farmers market is the way to go
Yep, this is the key…should be comparable reductions in the tax on ‘healthy’ competitive products…lets say bottled water, real fruit smoothies etc.
If not then this is just a revenue earner.
Also, the types who feed their newborn babies fizzy drinks wont pay any attention and continue to spend on these products…poverty is an attitude as much as a quantity of money.
Bringing in a sugar tax will make healthier food cheaper when compared to more heavily processed food so it still has the same affect. At present high sugar food is far far too cheap which makes it attractive.
Healthy food suck as fruit and veg isn’t expensive, but when somebody seems some cheap high sugar thing for 89c and some veg for 1euro they are going to opt for the quick high sugar fix because this is what are minds are programmed to do.
Barry you’re talking pony mate.
Coz it doesn’t bring in the €€€.
They could give a damn what we put into ourselves, it’s what they can get out of us they’re interested in. Otherwise I wouldn’t be smoking this delicious cigarette!
Spot on Peter , why is it that when you go into a shop all the sugary crap is being sold on the cheap and the good food are 3-4 times more expensive , they talk about cheap booze and blaming it for the drinking culture . What about the obesity culture ????
Truth hurts some people I guess Cian Doherty,
I’ve no fear of junk food being made more expensive, it only makes sense because the fact its so cheap makes iot the easy option for people.
Like it or not our brains are programmed to go for the high sugar option, this is proven in research
What research Barry? Can you provide links to said studies?
A bag of spuds doesn’t cost much and there are always deals on veg. I wonder is it more about buying something that’s quick to prepare rather than any issues with cost.
Ye where are these studies mate? Sure if our brains are automatically programmed to go for the sugary option then the cost of the sugary product is irrelevant as we will buy it regardless because we are “programmed” that way!
Eoin Gildea, its a proven fact that our brains crave calories which high sugar foods provide more then anything else. This is basic basic stuff so I won’t be doing your homework for you as I was even thought this stuff in school and thats going back abit.
From a evolutionary stand point it worked well for us and helped us to develop as a species over thousands of years because our brains wanted calories but wanted to do the least amount of work to get them. We are programmed this way.
This sadly is also the downfall of our species in more modern times, our brains still want calories but most of the population doesn’t do anything near the level of exercise we used to even 100 years ago and high calorie food is easily available to everyone…infact too available.
In short the only solution is to make all the high sugar foods less available and for people to get off their lazy arses and do more exercise.
Cian Doherty, sigh
Its not as simple as that its a lifestyle thing because our culture has changed massively.
We are now in a part of our history where never before have we had such easy access to high calorie food and so cheaply too, if we take no action to deal with the problems this can cause we are condemning our species to an ever growing health issue
yes Pieter
i agree with you 100%
but why are healthier foods dearer is the question we should be asking if there is less addidtive,s,less sugar and so on
James,
I think that’s a myth that healthier food is more expensive. Meat, fruit, veg, eggs ect are not dear.
Prepared ‘healthy’ alternatives may be expensive, but making your own food from raw produce is reasonably cheap.
A bit of education and a bit more effort is all that’s is required
Barry is spot on..fair play for not linking to research, this is a well known fact, let them google it themselves…
because that wont make any more money Pieter, thats what happens when economists make the decisions. Nothing good will happen unless they can make more money in taxes.
Obviously that would be the sensible and proactive way to tackle this issue. But when have any Irish government been sensible and proactive.
Except I wouldn’t want healthier foods made cheaper at expense of succumbing to GM foods or ripping off farmers as big supermarket chains often do !
this is not about health , this is about money. Tax the rich, they are the greatest health risk to us.
Nope! tax the parents who are either (a) stupid or (b) can’t say no. And concentrate on cigarettes and booze. Nobody has died, been killed, destroyed lives, abused, fought, rowed, puked all over the place, been sent to jail, suffered or casued great pain and hardships from fizzy drinks yet. The spanners!
Ye that’s correct. Parents are issue here, always wanting someone else to take responsibility.
What happened to patents telling their kids what’s good and bad?
Worked up till now didn’t it, what’s changed?
“Tax the rich” – said every idiot ever
Taxing the rich is a terrible idea, its not a difference of opinion, its a fact
a high blood glucose level earlier on in life increases the chances of nearly every autoimmune disease, blindness, cardiovascular diseases, and theres some evidence it increases the chance of cancer too. If they increase the taxes on sugary brinks then they should reduce the taxes on healtier drinks too.
Stephen, the French decision to tax the rich was an excellent idea from the perspective of the UK Exchequer.
Paul and Aidan
It clearly hasn’t worked until now!!!?? There are so many links between excessive sugar consumption and obesity and serious disease. Diseases which have cause thousands to die every year, destroyed lives and caused incomprehensible pain and hardship for many many more every year.
I do agree that it should be down to the parents, but clearly they can’t even look after themselves!! We have a ridiculously high rate of obesity here (better than many other countries but still nothing to be proud of). I am sorry but not everyone are such prime examples of human beings as ye (thank god..)
I don’t know anyone my age with with any sugar related disease. We all had parents from different backgrounds. They all thought us moderation.
Stop looking for excuses. Kids that aren’t given these sugars don’t develop problems. Educate, don’t restrict and tax.
No Eamon Gilmore already said to the government that he wants the people on more than 500,000 to take a tax of 10 pc, however b4 Halloween the government decided to raise their pays but not up as far as they would be eligible for this tax tho. €497,500 is what they will get also paid by us! Anyone on over €100,000 should be taxed very highly, as the people i see every day work from 9-5 Monday to Friday and barely make it out with €25,000 a year!
Bit of a kick in the teeth for designated drivers. Minerals are expensive enough in the pubs as it is.
Exactly my point
Drink tap water.
You’ve to pay for tap water in most places
Go smoke a joint then……….
I agree Kerry. When I worked as a Bartender in America I thought it was a nice touch that Designated Drivers got their soft drinks free. Otherwise I have no problem with ‘Fizzy Drinks’ being taxed higher. Perhaps healthier juice drinks could be reduced to encourage people to make better choices. Personally, it turns my stomach to see very young children guzzling fizzy drinks on a regular basis.
the price of minerals is crazy.
and its all down to greedy publicans.
has anyone questioned the price of fruit juices (in most pubs its E2.80 for a mixer size bottle it would take 3 to make a pt) either i think not.
greed pure greed.
and what about the price of bottled water its cheaper to buy a gallon of petrol & litre of oil than a gallon of water
Damn greedy publicans closing all the the time.
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/1000-pub-closures-since-2005-2914729.html
Will it involve a tax rebate for loosing weight?
Hey guy. God bless copy and paste.
Exsqeeze me?
Your tax rebate for loosing weight is a better lifestyle, healthier body, more energy and you are going to live longer with less health issues. Its not all about the money.
But if you want it to be about the money, you can likely expect insurance companys to start upping policy costs for overweight people in a few years if they’ve not done so already
I wasnt being serious Barry. :)
As a non drinker, I feel that the prices of nonalcoholic drinks are already excessive in pubs in Ireland. A price increase of 10% would push the cost of a mineral to over €3 in a lot of pubs.
In fairness, that’s just pubs being greedy and not thinking ahead. Nothing to do with taxes.
Keith
as a person who likes a nonalcoholic drink as much as a pint i think your 100% correct if not a little bit generous on the publican side with your price of E3.00 and i dont believe non drinkers should be punished because they chose not to drink.
but i get the feeling that we are in a nanny state that has the mantra punish everyone alike so your dammed if you do and dammed if you dont.
To be fair in a shop a coke can cost 1.50, a beer 2.20 maybe that’s a 70c difference. In a pub you would be getting it for 1.50 cheaper.. What more do you want? It’s not greed it’s just the way the world works?
Chris, it depends on what quantity you are looking at. Assuming a pint of beer costs €4.50, the 200ml bottle of minerals at €3 is far more expensive. A rock shandy in a pub will cost €6 and it has not got as much as a pint of beer. To compare like with like 3 bottles of minerals contains just over a pint, yet it is double the cost of a pint of beer. That is the crux of my argument.
I was roughly comparing bottle with bottle. You may be right though I think mineral bottles are smaller than beer bottles.
I still think that they have the same overheads regardless of the drink you buy. The cost of the initial drink to the owner is probably only a fraction of the final cost
I agree with you about overheads Chris, doing business in Ireland must be a nightmare with the high costs and that is something that the government needs to tackle. I was just making a comparison purely on the sizes of the drinks and their costs
Stop with the Nanny State Rubbish and concentrate on important issues!!
Fully agreed! Sugar is the least of our problems.
Obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer…they are the least of our problems???
I’m not gonna even get into this….
Perhaps income tax rates and benefit levels could use BMI as a factor as well?
Hardly fair on horizontally challenged people. Not only can i not see my toes but now in the higher tax bracket too.
What further incentive would you need to debloat yourself?
How i feel after a daily 5k run is incentive enough without handing away more cash.
Is their not a tax call VAT on these luxury goods already, this has nothing to do with health it’s to do with finance, increase the VAT rate on fizzy drinks.
It’s ALL to do with finance
And the only people their financing is themselves and the bankers at the people,s expenses.
First of all how on earth would u think that they would reduce price on healthier foods, seriously in 2014 we,ll be charged for drinking water which is a natural right and also one of the healthiest things for you to drink and herein comes another problem because the government have fluoridated the water which is dangerous to pregnant women, young children and people in not the best of health!
Make the rich richer and the poor poorer is their plan.
2016- Famine 2- caused by Fine Gael & Labour coalition.
And they will not pay for the wreck they will have our country in by that time, their term will be up and they will have their pensions.
Prepare for things to get a lot lot worse than tax on sugary drinks.
http://www.change.org/petitions/supporting-the-irish-nation-step-down-from-government
I agree with this. People who indulge too often in high sugar foods are putting a burden on the general population. It’s only fair that they help by paying extra towards the upkeep of our public services.
I think It’s actually the opposite. Because of a lower life span the morbidly obese put a lower strain on the health service overall. None of those old age illnesses to look after.
Sean you think wrong. Sure they may not be around as long but while they are here they have far more health problems.
Sorry cooper, I should have mentioned that it was the conclusion of a scientific study. Lifetime health costs for the obese were found to be lower than healthy people.
Do you have a source Sean? That would be an entertaining read.
Wouldn’t mind reading that myself
Subsidise fruit and veg with the money raised from any sugar or fat tax. Oh wait…way too sensible!
Put a tax on palm oil and glucose fructose(corn)syrup and processed foods made with those ingredients.Save some orangutangs and get people reading food labels and avoiding the worst foodstuffs for weight gain.
nanny state
It is important to look after the health of our nation and any initiative is welcome. But the Government is comming up with these ideas at a time when they really need to increase the States revenues, which suggests to me that our health is not the governments number 1 priority here. Just look at the new Junior Cert proposals. I think its a good idea to reduce stress at exam time and allow for more project related learning. However, the government have pointed out that there is a significant reduction in costs to the Dept of Education. Why couldnt the government come up with all these ideas in the boom years?
If anybody thinks this is for the good of the people the are bonkers, this is us getting it up the arse again . Sugar is in almost everything, So get ready for higher prices on everything and watch your income being raped again.
The taxes will only go to paying the hefty wage and pensions of the government instead of subsidising pricey Organic heathy foods.
Dermot O’ Shea
“Sugar is in almost everything”
The proposal is to increase tax on fizzy drinks, not on everything that contains sugar. Onions are packed with sugar but few people get fat from eating them.
Then we can also watch the soft drinks companies alter their ingredients to avoid this sugar tax.
Maybe Reilly should think of a Salt Tax too
Or a dick head tax. He’d owe a fortune.
unbelievable cheek of someone who looks like reilly to preach about food, the state of the man
Reilly says he wants to stop “Empty calories”. How long before other sugar-containing empty calories are taxed? See partial list below. Taxing white bread and beer might be a good thing to help bring on the end of this “diet by goverrnment.”
Empty calories, in casual dietary terminology, are a measurement of the digestible energy present in high-energy foods with poor nutritional profiles, with most of the energy typically coming from processed carbohydrates, fats, or ethanol. Also known as a discretionary calorie, an “empty calorie” has the same energy content as any other calorie but lacks many accompanying nutrients such as vitamins, dietary minerals, antioxidants, amino acids, or dietary fiber. Although carbohydrates, fats and water are also nutrients, they are typically ignored for this analysis, with the exception of essential fatty acids.
Caloric intake must be balanced with activity to maintain a proper weight, so sedentary individuals and individuals who are eating fewer calories in an effort to lose weight should not substitute foods high in vitamins and minerals with empty calorie foods as eating too few vitamins and minerals may lead to chronic diseases. Dietitians and nutritionists prevent or treat illnesses by designing eating programs and recommending dietary modifications according to patients’ need.] To protect against chronic illness and maintain a healthy immune system, The American Dietetic Association recommends eating a variety of nutrient rich foods every day.
The following foods are often considered[by whom?] to contain mostly empty calories and may lead to weight gain:
Cake, cookies, sweets, candy, ice cream, soft drinks, fruit-flavored beverages and jello and other foods containing added sugar
Refined grains, such as white bread or white rice
Margarine or shortening
Butter, lard, dripping and other saturated fat
Beer, wine, and other alcoholic beverages
I don’t use sugar but I guarantee if they introduce a tax on ordinary Coke the same tax will be applied to Diet Coke and all other sugar free drinks. Diabetics who already do not have any help with their diets will lose out. Furthermore, if they want us to eat better, why don’t they make it easier for us to do so. Anything low fat is always dearer than its high fat counterpart. And the price of fresh fruit and vegetables can account for half a weekly food bill making it much more appealing to eat none and go for canned vegetables instead. Ah well, what do you expect with this continuous grasping at straws, charade at this stage. !!!
The price of fruit and veg??? Have you been to Aldi, it’s nearly impossible to spend money on the fruit and veg offers. 69c for a tray of apples etc.
It’s not more expensive to eat healthy, it’s just a lot more effort
Its where I do go. I go to 3 supermarkets every week. You must mean 69 cent for one apple. A tray of 6 is €2.99. 1kg bananas,which also equals 6 is €1.25. Tomatos = €2.99 kg also aprox 5/6. 1 small bag of clementines = €1.99. 1 4pk of probiotic l-casei drink (own brand) €1.40. I have to do another shop later at a market stall for cabbage (1 day only) carrots and parsnip (same), potatoes, brussel sprouts, lettuce, spring onions, garlic. The list goes on but nothing above are even the quantiities for even one person, never mind a household for one week. And I believe in getting the recommended dosages to try and stay healthy, given that there is not going to be any money there to help any of us in our old age.
Buying healthy fresh ingredients allows consumers to make simple decent meals that give far better health benefits.
The problem is that many people simply don’t know how to take these ingredients and make them into a decent meal.
If only there could be more cookery programs on the telly.
Does Man V Food count?
Man v Food, while it’s a hideous travesty on the face of the earth, is not IMO a cookery programme. It’s more a food based reality show.
It does serve a purpose to show what sorts of foods make people hideously fat.
More Granny state rubbish……
Lets tax alcohol a lot more instead, crap when I go out I’m usually on either diet coke or 7 up free, are these going to be hit, it’s a stealth tax that is not going to be properly put into what’s its suppose to be going in to
Bring it in, nobody likes a fatty
It’s considered bad form to call them “fatty” or indeed “wobble bottom”, “size challenged”?
Yeh, Self inflicted size.
“You cant call them that”. Never mind the P.C. nonsense. If your medically obese, your obese. Its not someone’s opinion, its a fact.
More nanny state nonsense.
“In America, first you get the sugar. Then you get the power. Then you get the women…”
A sugar tax? Sweet….
I’m currently suffering with hypoglycemia and the increase cost for fizzy drinks means I’ve to spend more to control my medical condition! absolute stupidity!!!:@
No, they should introduce a politian tax. If you have the honour of being elected to represent the Irish people you should have to pay 60% taxes just in case you’re in danger of forgetting who your bosses are.
They will want to tax Free Air next !
Denmark just scrapped a similar tax they had in place for a while. The simple fact was that it didn’t work and just lead to an increase in cross border shopping.
Hard as it may be to accept people who like to eat unhealthy food are like smokers. No matter how much tax goes on the products they like, they will still buy them.
Sugar tax.. An idea put out by people with zero understanding of nutrition and food composition at all.
Anything that is not protein, fat or water is sugar, or carbohydrates, which are chains and arrangements of glucose, which is sugar at its most simple.
Now, these drinks manufacturers have come in for criticism over the amount of sugar used before, so they moved to reduce the amount of sugar used by substituting it for HFCS (high fructose corn syrup). This didn’t have quite the same devastating effect on blood sugar as all the standard glucose they had been using before did. Problem solved eh?
Well actually no. The reason fructose doesn’t screw with your blood sugar is because it’s sent straight to your liver to be metabolised. When there is excess it is stored as glycogen, excessive storage of glycogen in the liver is the cause of fatty liver, which is perhaps even worse than the diabetes..
All due to the move to cut sugar..
So? There’s always the diet / zero / no added sugar option! Well, if you don’t mind; Aspartame (aspartic acid – a neurotoxin, and methanol – wood alcohol, breaks down into formalin and formaldehyde when digested), Sodium Saccharin (made from coal tar), and Sucralose (two molecules of chlorine bound onto a glucose molecule). Yes, they’re really the “healthy” option aren’t they? As bad and all as the sugar is, at least your body was designed to digest and excrete it, just not in as high amounts as we are consuming these days (ah moderation, come back – all is forgiven!!), I’d rather take my chances with the sugar thanks (if I will be permitted to have the choice).
And what about all the foods masquerading as healthy that aren’t?
0% fat = high sugar content (at least the fat might have contained some nutrients). Look at yoghurts – most of them the first ingredient is sugar. Actimels are nearly all sugar, as are nutrigrain bars and many of their equivalents.. Seriously – pretty much anything that ends in “ose” or has the word “malt” in it on an ingredients list is a type of sugar, you should count them for yourself.
While we are at it – “wheat flour” counts as sugar too, whereas “wholewheat flour” counts as fibre – but is still technically a sugar (just a complex one).
Perhaps if people were actually taught about nutrition properly they might think twice about their diet, and perhaps not. But you can’t tax people for their ignorance.
We don’t manufacture sugar in Ireland so a tax on sugar will reduce imports!
AH yes the famous” higher taxes will save the world” well have they work in any way shape or form yet. I dont think so , Remember not all “FIZZY DRINKS” have lots of sugar EG. Diet , Zero. what ever they call them. and don’t forget sparkling water its fizzy to and I bet like every thing else in this country once one goes up ,every one of these fizzy drinks will be more expensive not just the one with High Sugar.
The affect of taxing sugar will be to reduce the amount of sugar used in food processing. Processed foods containing sugar are, on the face of it, cheaper than the healthier alternatives because sugar is used as a cheap bulking agent and as a cheap preservative.
No – 100
Yes – 0
Well that answers that, never seen the pie chart one solid colour before haha
Or maybe my phone/app is just messed up, because now it’s back to normal
I feel silly :(
Seriously…. A sugar tax??? He’s some donkey!!!!
Yay… just what we need – more tax!
What joy!
Sarcastic comment I hope
To be very sure!
Next thing will be to ban beards,long hair for men…..the door is wide open now.
Tax all the luxuries! Crisps, chocolate, fizzy drinks, convenience food. If they’re more expensive, people will opt for the cheaper, healthier option(hopefully) thus creating a healthier population and better economy(again, hopefully)
So you think that the couple who are feeding their kids pizza and coke every night are now going to have a complete lifestyle change and start eating like fitness models because Reilly stuck 20c on a bottle of coke? Hopeful? Not so much.
We will have to wait and see what happens to the price of sugar free drinks, I would bet they will increase in price along with the ones with sugar and the consumer will be ripped off again.
Ireland has a growing problem with obesity and this is a way to tackle this problem !
Why don’t we go the whole hog and make it a crime for anyone to get sick! They would have to pay a hefty fine or in more serious cases be also put behind bars. Think of all the extra revenue it would generate and relieve the HSE from the cost of treating sick patients. Social engineering gone mad.
Everyone enjoys a bit a sugary goodness at some stage. They shouldn’t be punished for it.
On a side note if France only made €120 …..
Got enough bloody taxes and charges already without more nanny-imposed superbo**ox!!
How about insisting government should have “No added crap”.
the way to tackle this problem is to educate your children to eat healthy.
IF they want to save money/earn revenue they could also stop spending money on creating new all-Irish language schools as well.
No problems on taxing junk food. The arguments against in from non-drinkers though are laughable. There are cheaper options than drinking Coke and 7-Up.
The only option I can think of is tap water. Unless you’re talking about store brand!
bullshit idea from a health minister desperate to be seen doing something. why not an increased potato tax. lots of carbs in that kids don’t need a ton of every meal
silly people were still taking this s–t, the no smoking lobby pushed up the duty on cigs so high they stopped people. smoking ok. but now the parts are paying themselves. the same will happen with sugar tax they’ll just move on to something else
Air tax? Or maybe charge per breath?
So I’ll just move from coke to milkshakes =D
No, because only poor people will benefit from it and that’s not fair!
NO NO NO NO NO
hahaa it stuipd we don’t buy sugar anymore!!!!!!
it’s in most of the food you eat so directly or indirectly you would be taxed
Are diet drinks going to be tax free then
I’d have no problem with this if they reduce the tax on fruit, veg, healthy snacks and the like. But instead of taxing fizzy drinks, why not increase the tax on fags and booze? Whilst I do understand that it’s only going to be around 20c per bottle ( not really a big hit if your buying a bottle or two a week, ) it still seems like its yet another tax that is aimed towards the family units. As an adult, you wouldn’t really be drinking THAT much fizz, however, families with kids tend to use a lot more so it seems that this will affect them more. Maybe I’m wrong but it’s my opinion that this is a stupid idea and that if they are looking to tax more, hit the fags and booze hard! ( I don’t smoke, but I do enjoy a weekly night out with friends so my proposed idea would affect me! )
Wow, what will we spend this extra 120 on?!? :-)
just reduce the cost of healthy food instead!
YES
I think if we tax air we can get more money. They would never suggest building indoor activity centres to get people’s weight down!
Why not ban sugar altogether….sure aren’t we living in a ‘nanny state’ anyway!
That would involve banning everything except water and oil.
Wouldn’t it be better just to educate kids in school from a young age than let this hair brained government put in another tax to feed their sugar coated wages and pensions , we really are been taken for a ride
Would a sugar tax not lead to increased use of aspartame? I’d prefer to modify my sugar intake than use less natural products. For the same reason I eat butter rather than margarine. Educate our school kids properly about food and allow them to run in the playground.
What else?
Fresh air is next!
Carbon and water taxes, already done!
There is a charge for air at the local garage it is 1 Euro. People that don’t drink are too mean to buy a coffee in a pub or a soft drink. All they do is complain about prices.
This is absolutely RIDICOLOUS
They are proposing a 10pc tax on fizzy drinks to cut obesity, now what drinks lead to obesity I don’t know I taught it would be fatty foods!
Looks like ill be drinking rain water from now on haha
The fat makes you fat thing is a misconception based upon the dual use of the term. Fats are oils and animal fats. They are where you get vitamins A, D, E and K, they also include essential fatty acids – your omega 3, 6 & 9. Fats do have more calories in them per gram, but take longer to digest (they are digested in the intestines, and absorbed into the lymphatic system via the Peyers Patches) and so are considered slow burning. They are required to keep your skin and hair healthy, they are the brains preferred source of fuel and what important parts of your body are made from (eg your brain, blood vessels, lymph etc).
Carbohydrates are fast burning fuel – digested either in the mouth or stomach (or in the case of fructose, the liver), unless they are complex carbohydrates – these are digested by bacteria in the colon. Simple sugars that are not burned for energy are stored as fat, either in the adipose tissue (body fat) or in the liver (glycogen). The body turns carbs into body fat, when you eat very fatty food you tend to get oily excrement. Excess dietary fat is not retained as easily.
Think about burning paper vs burning wood vs burning oil, in terms of generating heat over time, which is best?
And a heads up, many drinks can make you fat, most notably alcohol. Just because you do not chew it doesn’t mean your body treats it any differently. It still processes the constituents of your food regardless of whether they were liquid or solid when you swallowed them. Otherwise people on liquified diets would waste away!
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