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Lyrics from CMAT's new single highlighted ghost estates and mental health pressures of the 2008 financial crash. @cmatbaby on X

"The recession has followed us, it's marked us": The children of the boom and bust

CMAT’s new song which mentions Bertie, empty houses and suicides has struck a chord with Irish people who grew up during the big recession.

THE NEW SINGLE from CMAT with its recession-era inspired lyrics has shone a light on the experience of children who were born into the boom, but grew up during the bust.

The artist shared a snippet online from her upcoming song Euro-Country this week, which includes the lyrics: “All the big boys/All the Berties/All the envelopes, yeah they hurt me/I was 12 when the das started killing themselves all around me/And it was normal/Building houses that stay empty even now.”

The lyrics hit home for many Irish people who were kids between 2008 and 2013 and are now in their twenties and thirties.

“What happened when the Celtic Tiger collapsed was the worst thing I’ve ever experienced as a child. Countless suicides, ghost towns and pay cuts,” one man said online.

“Not enough attention to this part of our recent history. It affected the younger generations so much”, another person said. While another said they have never “felt so specifically and deeply for a lyric.”

As a child of the recession, the CMAT lyrics struck a chord with me, too.

I remember trying to predict how long the recession would last over lunchtime in third class, and teachers warning us there was no future for young people in Ireland. During a visit to family in Donegal, playing in the local ghost estate became my favourite pastime.

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Paul Murray’s award-winning bestseller The Bee Sting examined the same themes, looking at recession-era Ireland through the eyes of a couple – and of their son and daughter. The book showed the stress, anxiety and fear the children experience as their father’s business falls apart and their parents’ marriage comes under increasing strain

RTÉ journalist Adam Maguire has a book coming out in September about the same topic. The book, called The Bailout Babies, examines how recession kids grew up in an era of economic prosperity but never got to benefit from it -  and are now navigating a new type of adulthood in post-boom Ireland.

Research from the massive Growing up in Ireland survey suggests the recession hit children hard.

Mothers under economic pressure were 84% more likely to experience depression than mothers who weren’t, while parents who felt economic distress – which was a lot of people – showed harsher styles of parenting and less warmth. They also experienced marital issues, reporting more arguments and unhappiness in their relationship.

The worsened relationships between children and parents were associated with higher anxiety in children, bad behaviour, lower child happiness and lower educational test scores. 

‘I wouldn’t have a lot of trust in things’

Shannon, who was 14 when the crash hit, was hospitalised with anorexia in 2008, something she believes was partly caused by the stress of the recession.

“I remember life going from zero anxiety to being surrounded by it. You picked up the anxiety around you,” she told The Journal. 

As a teenager, Shannon was aware of what was going on with her family and the country as a whole, and struggled as there was nothing she could do to help.

She witnessed an increase in alcoholism and suicide, with several of her friends’ older siblings taking their own lives. 

The stress she experienced as a teenager has never left her.

“I’m always on high alert. I wouldn’t have a lot of trust in things. I know a lot of my generation are like that, that’s just the way we grew up,” she said.

Ultan from Wexford was 9 when the recession hit. His family were significantly impacted by the crash as they struggled to pay off loans they had taken out during the boom.

“[My parents] tried their hardest not to let us feel they were stressed, but you could tell”, he said.

“Mam and Dad had to work through Christmas because they couldn’t afford not to,” he added.

Ultan struggles with a scarcity mindset due to the experience, and finds it hard not to spend his money immediately.

He said: “I struggle with holding onto money because I feel like as soon as I have it, it will go. It’s not a guarantee that it will be here next month.”

He said seeing the CMAT lyrics brought back memories of the recession he hadn’t realised had impacted him so much.

“The das killing themselves line, it brought back a lot of memories of being in school and it happening to people in my class”, he said, explaining that as a child he didn’t realise why it was happening.

Several family members and whole families from his school emigrated.

“I remember thinking, this is just going to be how it will be, I’ll just have to leave Ireland when I’m older. It wasn’t until I was 21 that I realised I could stay,” he said.

Róisín McManus from Cavan was 11 when the recession hit.

She said news of the crash and stress over money was a constant during her childhood, something she feels has never left her.

“I think for people in our generation, the recession has followed us, it’s marked us, we felt the burden of money from a young age, and we still do”, she said. “At this stage, it’s almost like a lifelong experience that money can be tight, and you’re always conscious of that,” she added. 

“Growing up, I was more conscious of money and how it doesn’t go very far,” she said. She recalls noticing things in her life were suddenly different, as trips to the cinema and meals out ended.

Róisín’s major memory is of people in their early twenties in her community emigrating for work. She wonders if growing up in this environment has contributed to a pattern where Ireland’s young people are once again emigrating.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 7:00 AM

    Slava Ukraini.
    Puck Futin.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 1:40 PM

    @honey badger: Futin?

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    Apr 28th 2023, 8:30 AM

    Like the Nazi, russia is using terror, nothing else, because they can’t win.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 10:26 AM

    @Yvon Queguiner: Which country lost 27 Million citizens defeating the Nazis?

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    Apr 28th 2023, 10:36 AM

    @Dave Grant: Yeah, 80 years ago. Now Russia has become the modern equivalent of the Nazis. Murder of civilians, including children. Forced deportations, denial of Ukranian citizenship or statehood, torture, looking to install a puppet regime. Looks like they learned a lot from the Nazis, or more reverted to type given their actions against their neighbours for the last 80 years.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 11:48 AM

    @Dave Grant: I don’t think they lost them, the government knew exactly where they were sending them.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 11:59 AM

    @Yvon Queguiner: Read a history book sometime, then you might not make such daft statements.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 1:18 PM

    @west awake: I see you don’t dispute my statements Putin fanbot.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 3:05 PM

    @Dave Grant: “Which country lost 27 Million citizens defeating the Nazis?”

    You mean, which country made a pact with Nazi Germany to carve up Poland and only fought Nazi Germany when Germany invaded them?

    Absolutely astonishing how anyone thinks Russia was some moral force in WW2. They fought out of necessity. Not for any other reason.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 3:16 PM

    @Dave Grant: Stalin was responsible for the deaths of 20 million Russians.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 7:11 PM

    @Dave Grant: 1. It was USSR which was formed from 15 now independent states including Russia. 2.USSR started the WW2 as NAZI Ally, and on 23.08.1939 signed Molotov–Ribbentrop pact. USSR attacked Poland together with NAZI Germany and killed. Exactly like current Russia, USSR did not allowed red cross to inspect captured Polish soldiers and thousands died in captivity as well as were executed. 3. Stalin was exactly same bloody dictator as Hitler. 4. Out of those 27 millions citizens you are talking 6.850 000 were Ukrainians Russia now is killing now. Ukraine lost 16.3% of the entire population and had 2d after Belarus highest civilian losses per capita. Russia lost 12.7% of population.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 7:38 AM

    Slava Ukrainia Heroyum Slava!!

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    Apr 28th 2023, 9:55 AM

    @Thomas Meaney: You’re a hero of the Ukrainian-Russian war, for your brave actions in using Google Translate.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 10:23 AM

    @west awake: Are you a Putin fan, do you have topless posters of him on your wall and get excited by it?Should we get you a playboy magazine, with just Putin in it?

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    Apr 28th 2023, 10:46 AM

    @Emmet Murphy: Wow. How did homophobia get dragged into this discussion?

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    Apr 28th 2023, 11:16 AM

    @west awake: We’re not homophobic. It’s the guys you fancy we have a problem with. You go for the bad boys and they end up brain washing you. Just looking out for you, bud!

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    Apr 28th 2023, 12:00 PM

    @Crafty Bodger: You have such a deep understanding of the geopolitical situation.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 12:10 PM

    @west awake: Thanks! But back to you’re bad taste in fellas. Is it an “issues” thing? Only asking because I think it’s relevant to know why you blindly support Putin. Sorry if it’s personal and you don’t have to answer.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 4:23 PM

    @Crafty Bodger: “If you fell in love with a dung heap, you wouldn’t find a bad straw in it.” Poor ould wakey westie is in love!!

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    Apr 28th 2023, 8:35 AM

    Can’t wait for Trump to be re-elected, he’ll stop the war. Never would’ve started on his watch. At least thats what he claims.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 8:51 AM

    @Eamon: and will welcome his paymaster putin into Kiev. It could be that putin was banking on trump getting a second term, but the American voter was a bit more clever than usual and messed up putins plan….and economy.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 9:51 AM

    @Paul Furey: Putin was absolutely hoping Trump would get a second term. And Trump would have done everything to prevent NATO and the US from providing aid. He repeatedly floated leaving NATO prior to the election.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 9:56 AM

    @Paul Furey: Russiagate conspiracy theory is so 2018.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 10:26 AM

    @Eamon: He’ll bend over, there’s a difference and he wants help becoming a Dictator in his own Country.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 1:49 PM

    @Paul Furey: ‘paymaster’??…..completely unfounded drivel….

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    Apr 28th 2023, 3:07 PM

    @Eamon: You mean the same Trump with withheld aid from Ukraine unless Zelenskyy went along with Trump’s conspiracies to try attack his political rivals?

    You mean the same Trump who called Putin a genius and praised him for invading Ukraine? The same Trump who said Crimea is a part of Russia?

    He’ll stop the war alright, by stopping Ukraine from having the means to defend itself. The war would stop when Russia has killed every last Ukrainian who resists.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 1:25 PM

    The Orcs have struck again

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    Apr 28th 2023, 8:19 AM

    Read on Sky News website earlier that the wests has nearly run out of ammunition and the spring offensive by Ukraine will be make or break.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 9:59 AM

    @Brian Boru: That’s it, even Sky are reporting the truth now. If this so-called offensive fails, then it’s all over. What a waste of life and resources.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 10:49 AM

    @Brian Boru: Sky News is hardly a reputable source. I doubt the combined war stockpiles of NATO and the EU is almost exhausted.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 11:06 AM

    @Stephen Deegan: They must be worried if they are searching Sky News to validate their arguments. Apparently, main stream media DOES tell the truth if it suits them. Have to say, I’m shocked. I thought they were guys of principle and conviction. Turns out they switch and change their views depending on which way the wind is blowing. Imagine quoting sky news and still thinking you have integrity. Smh

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    Apr 28th 2023, 11:27 AM

    @west awake: waste of life and resoures trying to save your own country from being invaded? Sure… should have done that in WWII and not tried to fight the Nazis, it was a waste of life and resources.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 12:02 PM

    @Jeff Cole: You have such a cartoonish childish understanding of the situation, let’s just say, it’s rather more nuanced than you’ve been led to believe.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 12:05 PM

    @west awake: Did Sky News tell you that?

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    Apr 28th 2023, 1:16 PM

    @Stephen Deegan: Is that your gut feeling?

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    Apr 28th 2023, 3:12 PM

    @west awake: you are such a tw@t! Do you actually believe the stuff you post or are you just a sad little troll? I used to think you were a bot, then I thought, nah he’s real but clearly uneducated and heartless, supporting Putins massacre of men women and children. Now I think no one can be do dumb as to actually believe the stuff you post so either you’re paid by Russian Nazis or just a sad little troll. If you are real and actually believe what you write a would seriously worry about the people around you because you’re a psychopath. Either way im done with you and blocking you. You’re not worth any more of my time

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    Apr 28th 2023, 10:42 AM

    Sudan conflict , prototype for next biological war putin or Russia one of the shareholders , the other side United statand UK. Dragging rest ot the globe to New level of dogs fight .120 000 sudanese militia soldiers with flip flop and daily income less than 2 euro, driving landcrusier cost 60k, carrying a Russian weapon cost 40k, fighting under vagnner instructions, 3 days ago WHO warn from biological leak from one of sudan labs , convince me how come a country consider poorest nations in the world holding kind of this research labs ?
    Buy the way Emirates imported all pickups with militia currently at sudan, my question
    Who pay for all this ?

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    Apr 28th 2023, 5:03 PM

    @ibrahim Sudane: Sudanese, Ukranian and Russian people, ultimately.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 9:06 PM

    And still they say that they don’t target civilians.

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    Apr 29th 2023, 12:59 AM

    Absolute shower of effers, Slava Ukrainia

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    Apr 28th 2023, 9:43 PM

    A special international dispensation for the execution of Russian war criminals on a pay per view event with the funds raised going to the rebuilding of Ukraine. All children over the age of 12 to watch with a sincere explanation of what these hateful humans have done prior to the drop. Sounds Orwellian? I don’t care. I sincerely want to see putin and lavrov with their tongues lolling. History doesn’t work anymore obviously, time for something slightly more medieval.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 11:18 PM

    A lot of invective in this discussion tonight!

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